The Rooster

[RhettMan]

Time to change a habit. Im going to begin waking up at 4 AM each day.
Where I will make clear my goals of that day and then persist until i succeed.

Just curious, are any of you readers of The Secret or the follow-up book The Answer?

[CAPT Stream Rotar]

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[FIMCO-MEISTER]

I slept in til 5 today. 3-6am are my hours to relax ponder.

Mornin guys

[CAPT Stream Rotar]

up @ 5..feeling good....sleeping to anything past 7 for me is late, even on weekends.

[AI Inc]

up at 4:50 weekdays , I sleep in on weekends , then its 5:50

[whoopassonthebluegrass]

5:30am here. When not swamped with work, I play basketball from 6-7am then come home and prep for the day.

[RhettMan]

I slept in til 5 today. 3-6am are my hours to relax ponder.

Mornin guys

morning F-M,

thats pretty early, do you go to sleep early to make that easier?

[RhettMan]

this wake up early thing is kind of an impulse decision,

i know i cant make any sales between 4-7, customers are asleep

i cant mow (i maintain only residential)

but successful people all seem to wake up early, i'll play along

[DanaMac]

up @ 5..feeling good....sleeping to anything past 7 for me is late, even on weekends.

That's typically me too. Up at 5:00, with no alarm clock. Let the dogs out. Can't remember the last time I've slept until 7:00/8:00 . Relax.

I don't even have a clock plugged in for the bedroom. I get more agitated with an alarm.

[DanaMac]

Oh, I did watch the DVD of the Secret. Decent stuff, but kind of cheesy to me. It all goes back to positive thinking, which is nothing new. But I like being a grouchy SOB some of the time. And just thinking and visualizing will not make someone a better, richer person. Actions will.

[whoopassonthebluegrass]

...And just thinking and visualizing will not make someone a better, richer person...

Damn... may as well quit while I'm behind...

[DanaMac]

Damn... may as well quit while I'm behind...

You know what I'm saying. It starts with thinking and visualizing, but that goes right out the window for a lot of people.

[RhettMan]

Oh, I did watch the DVD of the Secret. Decent stuff, but kind of cheesy to me. It all goes back to positive thinking, which is nothing new. But I like being a grouchy SOB some of the time. And just thinking and visualizing will not make someone a better, richer person. Actions will.

dana you gotta read the answer, it preaches action mixed with the secret and the law of attraction...

its more focused on business, I read it about a year and a half ago, and it really fired me up and i started having an @$$ load of fun working, days before being depressingly bored with "it all"

two days ago i picked it up again and started on page 1 and here i am again, fired up, waking up early

LOL i know this post is kinda weird but i figured if i realized the new intention of waking up early in the forum i would be more inclined to follow through with it...

[whoopassonthebluegrass]

You know what I'm saying. It starts with thinking and visualizing, but that goes right out the window for a lot of people.

Yeah, I was just being a wisea$$. I'm more of the "if you're gonna do it, then shut up and do it" train of thought.

[RhettMan]

Yeah, I was just being a wisea$$. I'm more of the "if you're gonna do it, then shut up and do it" train of thought.

good way to be..

next time you go get new audio books see if you can find the answer by john assaraf, i think a business minded person like u would appreciate it.

[DanaMac]

Yeah, I was just being a wisea$$.

I kinda figured so.

I am not in favor of the "overly optimistic, everything is beautiful" people. Everything is NOT great, everything is not rainbows and ponies. The people that hide and ignore facts of reality around them, are the ones that fall the hardest when reality hits them directly.

I don't like seeing the parents that do anything and everything for their kids. They HAVE to go to every game and event the kids are in. No excuses. The kids need to learn failure, and to be let down, as kids. If everything goes their way as a kid, they can't deal when it happens as an adult. Seen it too many times.

[whoopassonthebluegrass]

good way to be..

next time you go get new audio books see if you can find the answer by john assaraf, i think a business minded person like u would appreciate it.

I'll see what I can find. Always on the prowl for new material.

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

morning F-M,

thats pretty early, do you go to sleep early to make that easier?

I don't sleep. I wait.

[mowerman111]

I watch the Secret every chance I get, I've made my kids watch it. I've given it to friends and family who I've thought were worthy, not everybody understands it. Definitely a motivator for sure.

I've always tried to keep negative things out of my life anyway but after watching the Secret I understood why a person should practice it even more. I'm going to have to find The Answer I hadn't seen or heard of it. Thanks for posting.

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

The Secret, The Answer, The Notebook, The Lion The Witch The Wardrobe

Just remember at the end of the day...You are 99% Chimpanzee

[RhettMan]

I watch the Secret every chance I get, I've made my kids watch it. I've given it to friends and family who I've thought were worthy, not everybody understands it. Definitely a motivator for sure.

I've always tried to keep negative things out of my life anyway but after watching the Secret I understood why a person should practice it even more. I'm going to have to find The Answer I hadn't seen or heard of it. Thanks for posting.


I dont believe the part in the secret about vizualizing checks just showing up in your PO box, and taking the month off...

But i do believe that action MUST be preceded by thought UNLESS its an act of habit

Thus....If action is the cause and success is the effect, and we know new action must be preceded by new thought.

THEN...

Your new thoughts should be positive and affirmative.

[mowerman111]

I kinda figured so.

I am not in favor of the "overly optimistic, everything is beautiful" people. Everything is NOT great, everything is not rainbows and ponies. The people that hide and ignore facts of reality around them, are the ones that fall the hardest when reality hits them directly.

I don't like seeing the parents that do anything and everything for their kids. They HAVE to go to every game and event the kids are in. No excuses. The kids need to learn failure, and to be let down, as kids. If everything goes their way as a kid, they can't deal when it happens as an adult. Seen it too many times.

Boy you've got that RIGHT

[mowerman111]

[QUOTE=RhettMan;3014926]I dont believe the part in the secret about vizualizing checks just showing up in your PO box, and taking the month off...

Yea that takes it a little far.

[RhettMan]

The Secret, The Answer, The Notebook, The Lion The Witch The Wardrobe

Just remember at the end of the day...You are 99% Chimpanzee

what other being would you rather be 99% like? i think im more gorilla

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

Save yourself a lot of time. Read AS A MAN THINKETH and combine that with THE RICHEST MAN IN BABYLON. It is all stuff that gets regurgitated. There is nothing new under the sun. Find two quick to read uplifting books for those moments of complete worthlessness (brisket cooking is not worthlessness) and if you enjoy Bible Study (you don't have to be a believer to enjoy bible study) go to a very in depth Bible study on a regular basis. AND NEVER EVER LOSE YOUR SENSE OF HUMOR. Even if you see a nuke go off in the horizon think something like "Well I guess I'll reschedule my appts for tomorrow to next week."

Just the FIMCO 2 cents.

[RhettMan]

Save yourself a lot of time. Read AS A MAN THINKETH and combine that with THE RICHEST MAN IN BABYLON. It is all stuff that gets regurgitated. There is nothing new under the sun. Find two quick to read uplifting books for those moments of complete worthlessness (brisket cooking is not worthlessness) and if you enjoy Bible Study (you don't have to be a believer to enjoy bible study) go to a very in depth Bible study on a regular basis. AND NEVER EVER LOSE YOUR SENSE OF HUMOR. Even if you see a nuke go off in the horizon think something like "Well I guess I'll reschedule my appts for tomorrow to next week."

Just the FIMCO 2 cents.

you my friend, have a positive attitude, great trait to have

no body wants to be around a sour-puss

what is as a man thinketh about? i know i have heard "as a man thinketh, so shall he be" before

[ARGOS]

Off business books and self help. I am reading Gates of Fire "An Epic Novel of the Battle of Thermopylae" by Steven Pressfield. I am almost half way through. Great book. Put it on the iphone.

[whoopassonthebluegrass]

At any given moment I'm reading 4 or 5 different books. I call it binge reading. A little of this... a little of that...

[bicmudpuppy]

I don't like seeing the parents that do anything and everything for their kids. They HAVE to go to every game and event the kids are in. No excuses. The kids need to learn failure, and to be let down, as kids. If everything goes their way as a kid, they can't deal when it happens as an adult. Seen it too many times.

Just don't get being INVOLVED in the lives of ones children confused with living your children's lives. If I miss a ball game, there is going to be a really good reason. Yes, it is more fun if I get to watch them win (and here, the teams win much more than they lose), but I think they learn as much or more from a loss. I do bust a hump to make sure mine have every opportunity that I can give them. I don't force them to do anything and I leave what they choose to do up to them (with the exception that I've always put an emphasis on a need for them to do something).

As to reading, we aren't regulars at church, but I have always wanted to think I provide a good example. That both kids chose to have a study bible and read it regularly lets me know I have achieved much.

[RhettMan]

No kids, no wife, no stress

Free as a bird.....

[RhettMan]

Just don't get being INVOLVED in the lives of ones children confused with living your children's lives. If I miss a ball game, there is going to be a really good reason. Yes, it is more fun if I get to watch them win (and here, the teams win much more than they lose), but I think they learn as much or more from a loss. I do bust a hump to make sure mine have every opportunity that I can give them. I don't force them to do anything and I leave what they choose to do up to them (with the exception that I've always put an emphasis on a need for them to do something).

As to reading, we aren't regulars at church, but I have always wanted to think I provide a good example. That both kids chose to have a study bible and read it regularly lets me know I have achieved much.

Sounds like your on the right track, keep it up!

i think my dads main concern were my clothes and hair, my father is still trying to get me to get a flat top, no thanks lol

[DanaMac]

Just don't get being INVOLVED in the lives of ones children confused with living your children's lives. If I miss a ball game, there is going to be a really good reason. Yes, it is more fun if I get to watch them win (and here, the teams win much more than they lose), but I think they learn as much or more from a loss. I do bust a hump to make sure mine have every opportunity that I can give them. I don't force them to do anything and I leave what they choose to do up to them (with the exception that I've always put an emphasis on a need for them to do something).

As to reading, we aren't regulars at church, but I have always wanted to think I provide a good example. That both kids chose to have a study bible and read it regularly lets me know I have achieved much.

I have some friends that won't do anything for themselves. EVERYTHING is for their kids. They won't miss any sporting event or anything the kids do. Sometimes there are higher priorities than going to the kids sporting events, choir performances, etc. Kids need to understand that you can't be there for EVERYTHING. You may try your hardest, but there may be times that other things come up - work, sports or recreation for yourself, date with the wife, beer with other Lawnsite geeks:), etc.

My worries with my friends, is that the couple have disconnected from each other. Everything is for the kids. So once the kids are gone, they won't know each other. They won't know what it's like to do things for each other. And that is how a lot of couples split up.

Brian I've only met you the one trip, but your kids seem great. I know you work A LOT, and there are times you miss out on things they do. But I'm also sure they understand that when you are working, instead of at a scouts meeting, it is for their betterment of the family in the long run.

[DanaMac]

I've laid off the self help books. I know what needs to be done. Just need to do it. Don't always get off the duff and do it though. Just not that into this business anymore. Doesn't excite me.

[AI Inc]

Your probably just suffering a minor case of burnout. In 3 weeks you will be down to 55 hr weeks, it will be like a normal job and actually become fun again. June is my favorite month, plenty of work , but still some time off .

[DanaMac]

Your probably just suffering a minor case of burnout. In 3 weeks you will be down to 55 hr weeks, it will be like a normal job and actually become fun again. June is my favorite month, plenty of work , but still some time off .

Yes I'm burned out. Burned out for a few years. I have not enjoyed this business for a while. Want something new. Need to evolve again.

Starting June 8th I'm working half days in the field. Already planned it. Come August, I'll probably be in the field 2-3 days a week parttime.

[AI Inc]

Last August I made fridays official fishing day. I would pick a lake that I know had cell service and just brought along a notepad and a pen.One tech made a comment about me fishing while they were working. I gave him the following friday off, never heard a peep out of him again.

[DanaMac]

Last August I made fridays official fishing day. I would pick a lake that I know had cell service and just brought along a notepad and a pen.One tech made a comment about me fishing while they were working. I gave him the following friday off, never heard a peep out of him again.

I will be the first to admit it. When things slow down, I take a lot of time off. I go on lots of little trips visiting family, hot air ballooning, fishing, camping, snowboarding, whatever. I'm not the kind of person to take one vacation a year. Life should be a vacation. I work hard when the time is to work.

My guys know it too. they also know how many hours I put in when there is work to be done. In the filed and in the office. Yesterday was my last Saturday. One tech worked three hours, and no more Saturdays for them either.

[AI Inc]

I have had a good grip on overtime this yr. 1 tech worked 1 half day on just one Saturday.
As much as I burn out this time of yr , I keep telling myself , " where else do you make this kind of money working 8 months a yr.
Ive also always been a fan of the 3-4 day weekend come summer slowdown.

[AI Inc]

Besides the only thing I know how to do besides this is frame house and I already burned out on that 15 yrs ago. Its a young mans sport.

[DanaMac]

I have had a good grip on overtime this yr. 1 tech worked 1 half day on just one Saturday.
As much as I burn out this time of yr , I keep telling myself , " where else do you make this kind of money working 8 months a yr.
Ive also always been a fan of the 3-4 day weekend come summer slowdown.

The one tech who worked yesterday is on salary, so no overtime for him. The hourly guy has been getting 10-20 OT hours each of the last 3 checks. But that is typical for us this time of year, and probably no more after this week. I think next year I'll put him on salary as well.

[DanaMac]

Besides the only thing I know how to do besides this is frame house and I already burned out on that 15 yrs ago. Its a young mans sport.

All I really have done for 17 years as well. I have one new opportunity that may grow later this year. Could work out well, could be a bust.

[AI Inc]

What do you pay them for a salary? Layoff in winter , or paid thru?

[AI Inc]

Thought about doing home inspections for real estate at one time. Even have a book around here somewhere.
Have an old framing bud that has been getting into solar hot water heaters and the like.

[DanaMac]

Rather not post up numbers. But I pay him salary April 1 through December 31. He can then collect unemployment or get a winter job. We do enough work at the shop through December.

SprinklerGuy Tony use to do home inspections until he went to the car business.

[AI Inc]

Last yr I layed my guys off 3rd week of October and finished the stragler blowouts myself.

[DanaMac]

Last yr I layed my guys off 3rd week of October and finished the stragler blowouts myself.

We blow out up until Thanksgiving or so. Then some stragglers in December if the weather holds. Then putz around the shop. Service vehicles. Inventory. Talk shop.

[AI Inc]

Installs stopped like someone threw a switch last fall. We usualy do installs 2-3 days a week and let blowouts " stack" . Last yr they did them as they came in , I sat in office and answered the phone. By mid Oct, I was pretty pissed that they were getting too much of the blowout money.

[bicmudpuppy]

I have some friends that won't do anything for themselves. .....................................

My worries with my friends, is that the couple have disconnected from each other. Everything is for the kids. So once the kids are gone, they won't know each other. They won't know what it's like to do things for each other. And that is how a lot of couples split up.

The wife and I try to get out together w/o the kids once in a great while. We do a LOT as a family. Not three of us go to watch the other kid, but the four of us together. Wife's birthday is very close to Mother's day. This year, her request was to stay home. The kids and I went to the store and spent every bit we would have spent on a nice dinner and had went all out on the Mom's day meal. Lobster tails, grilled steak, fresh berries over cheese cake for desert, etc. I worry more about the ones who never have time to make it to a game, or the parents of the kids I meet who don't know what a home cooked meal is. Worse than that are the parents you see at events ALONE. You see one parent or the other, never the two together. When Christie's health prevents her from attending, I feel like part of me isn't there either. It is possible to make going to a volleyball game as much of a date as going to the movies. My kids take the team bus home. Almost w/o exception. The other kid, more often than not, is at another game or practice. We have discussed splitting up, so that one of us is at one game, and one is at the other, but we like to go together :) I expect that this year, we will have to take my daughter to the 3 away football games (I can hope for a volleyball tourney on those weekends, but........) The boy will be Varsity, and Varsity football doesn't conflict with ANYTHING here. The town lives for it even more than the parents and players (well, maybe not quite, but very close).

[DanaMac]

There needs to be a good medium, and you two seem to have done it. Some others don't have it figured out. And that is when kids get spoiled. Don't know how to do things for themselves. Good job making it a "date". :) Nice idea.

[AI Inc]

One of my customers that is my age came right out and said " people our age have done a diservice to this country by creating an entire generation of useless pussies" He was talking about his own early 20,s kids.

[DanaMac]

Since we have no kids, we've done a good thing then Steve :)

[AI Inc]

I like spending my free time and my $ on myself and GF too much to have kids. I would have been a lousy dad.

[DanaMac]

I love kids. I just love giving them back at the end of the day even better :laugh:
Seriously, I would have enjoyed being a dad. But we decided long ago to not have kids. I don't regret it. Sure I've lost out on some enjoyment and pride, but I've been able to do more things as well.

[AI Inc]

I remember when I was in my mid 20,s talking to my now exes uncle. He said to me once when we were talking alone. " I love kids to death , bt if I had to do it over I never would have had any"

[Stuttering Stan]

I like spending my free time and my $ on myself and GF too much to have kids. I would have been a lousy dad.
Sounds like the "all about me' syndrome.
I have a 2yo baby girl and don't regret it at all. It is definitely a lifestyle change, but it's a change for the better. Now rather than always thinking about yourself you have to think about what's best for your kid (which isn't a inconvenience at all). Nothing is better than getting a hug and kiss from your little one.

[DanaMac]

Sounds like the "all about me' syndrome.
I have a 2yo baby girl and don't regret it at all. It is definitely a lifestyle change, but it's a change for the better. Now rather than always thinking about yourself you have to think about what's best for your kid (which isn't a inconvenience at all). Nothing is better than getting a hug and kiss from your little one.

It is, what it is. Some of us are offsetting those that have 8. :)

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

The trick to raising kids is to fool them into raising you. Use lines like this. "What do you think about me going out and getting drunk tonight?"

[Stuttering Stan]

It is, what it is. Some of us are offsetting those that have 8. :)
Speaking of 8, I'm hooked on the drama of Jon and Kate. Anyone else?

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

Speaking of 8, I'm hooked on the drama of Jon and Kate. Anyone else?

I've seen it skewered on O'Reilly. Seems to be a little below the belt TV. Never even heard of these people and then the last week they've been all over the news.

[DanaMac]

Speaking of 8, I'm hooked on the drama of Jon and Kate. Anyone else?

Nope. I was poking fun at Argos and his 8. I was at one of my customers homes yesterday. I think they have 9 and counting.....

[Mike Leary]

Nope. I was poking fun at Argos and his 8. I was at one of my customers homes yesterday. I think they have 9 and counting.....

I thought Argos had eleven. :dizzy:

[DanaMac]

I thought Argos had eleven. :dizzy:

8 or 11, same thing. Still 8 or 11 too many :laugh:

I can't imagine. Stronger man than I am.

[Stuttering Stan]

Nope. I was poking fun at Argos and his 8. I was at one of my customers homes yesterday. I think they have 9 and counting.....
How does someone live with 8 kids!!! 1 wears me out in a few hours. Imagine the grocery bill for 8. Then the college bill.
Argos needs to call TLC and ask for a show.

[Mike Leary]

If his kids are into sports, he'd have to have a wall size chalkboard to figure out which kid is going to which game!

[Wet_Boots]

Aww, who's counting?

http://joecartoon.atom.com/cartoons/968-octomom_in_a_blender

[bicmudpuppy]

If his kids are into sports, he'd have to have a wall size chalkboard to figure out which kid is going to which game!

Not to mention an armored car for the wallet it would take to outfit them all! Maybe you get lucky and they all like the same sport and you can pass down everything. He would still have to start over with shoes at about the middle, but it would be like paying for only two or three kids in sports.

[hoskm01]

Speaking of 8, I'm hooked on the drama of Jon and Kate. Anyone else?
You Fruitcake! I was hoping they would get the axe from TV, along with all of the other idiot families with WAY too many kids. Who the hell pays for these idiots and why is anyone supporting them with viewership?

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

Aww, who's counting?

http://joecartoon.atom.com/cartoons/968-octomom_in_a_blender

That's kinda sick dude. Reminds me of a joke though. How do you get 8 frenchmen in a LeCar?






A LeMachine hyuk hyuk

[ARGOS]

Its 8 kids.

One sport...Bicycling. Mainly Mountain Bikes, but the oldest likes Road Bikes too. Pic has our current one year old in belly. The oldest is not on his racing bike.

Skiing too. Free with school (not much longer).

Forget soccer too much work.

Food bill is insane.

Drive a Sprinter.

Hosk. I think I and the kids will ultimately contribute more to the economy then take.

[Kiril]

Oh my ........... no way no how could I deal with that. My cat is demanding enough. :cry:

[whoopassonthebluegrass]

Not to mention an armored car for the wallet it would take to outfit them all! Maybe you get lucky and they all like the same sport and you can pass down everything. He would still have to start over with shoes at about the middle, but it would be like paying for only two or three kids in sports.

There's more truth to this than you realize. I have 4 boys. Lots of hand-me-downs. If I had a girl in there it would've cost me soooooooo much more.

...along with all of the other idiot families with WAY too many kids.

Define "WAY too many kids" if you would.

I grew up with 3 brothers and 3 sisters. We had a great time, lots of events and sports and concerts and activites. Christmas was craaaazy - and we're all still close. Granted, my mother was like Super Woman to stay on top of it all, and Dad had to bring in the moolah, but for you to define people whose values and meaning in life centered in their children and family is pretty disgusting.

To each their own, but I struggle to find anything MORE important than my wife and 4 kids. I'd like to have more. Why? Why would I be so crazy?

Because each child that enters this family shifts the paradigm through which I see the world in the most beautiful, indescribable, soul-stirring way. Not only does it demand I be less selfish and self-centered, but each one of those angels brightens this world 10-fold from where I stand.

I WANT to be at soccer games. I WANT to be that old man they just can't ever seem to beat shooting hoops in the driveway. I want the memories of detangling fishing poles (over and over again). Because I WANT to know that there are still good, productive, healthy youth being brought into this world to combat the apathy, ignorance, and laziness that is conditioned into so many of the others. And because I can at least recognize (if not fully appreciate yet) the fact that in a very few short years, those kids are going to be the only thing in my life that amounts to a hill of beans.

Just because you can't see the reasoning of an argument doesn't automatically make that argument invalid. (Or IS that how you see the world? That would certainly explain a lot.)

[Wet_Boots]

Enough with the rooster already

http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:C9G_Dc5W58ycRM:http://scrapetv.com/News/Images/kfc%2520bucket%2520of%2520chicken.gif

[AI Inc]

There's more truth to this than you realize. I have 4 boys. Lots of hand-me-downs. If I had a girl in there it would've cost me soooooooo much more.



Define "WAY too many kids" if you would.

I grew up with 3 brothers and 3 sisters. We had a great time, lots of events and sports and concerts and activites. Christmas was craaaazy - and we're all still close. Granted, my mother was like Super Woman to stay on top of it all, and Dad had to bring in the moolah, but for you to define people whose values and meaning in life centered in their children and family is pretty disgusting.

To each their own, but I struggle to find anything MORE important than my wife and 4 kids. I'd like to have more. Why? Why would I be so crazy?

Because each child that enters this family shifts the paradigm through which I see the world in the most beautiful, indescribable, soul-stirring way. Not only does it demand I be less selfish and self-centered, but each one of those angels brightens this world 10-fold from where I stand.

I WANT to be at soccer games. I WANT to be that old man they just can't ever seem to beat shooting hoops in the driveway. I want the memories of detangling fishing poles (over and over again). Because I WANT to know that there are still good, productive, healthy youth being brought into this world to combat the apathy, ignorance, and laziness that is conditioned into so many of the others. And because I can at least recognize (if not fully appreciate yet) the fact that in a very few short years, those kids are going to be the only thing in my life that amounts to a hill of beans.

Just because you can't see the reasoning of an argument doesn't automatically make that argument invalid. (Or IS that how you see the world? That would certainly explain a lot.)

So your kids education is going to cost around $336,000 , think you will ever pay that in property taxes ? Or do you just tell your fellow tax payer ef em?

[Mike Leary]

Its 8 kids.

Nice looking family, pal. :clapping:

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

Great pic Argos.Thumbs Up Never a dull moment in your life that's for sure.

[whoopassonthebluegrass]

So your kids education is going to cost around $336,000 , think you will ever pay that in property taxes ? Or do you just tell your fellow tax payer ef em?

I'm not even sure what you're getting at...

My kids will be supported by ME while working to support themselves. Call it old-school, but I'm a big fan of personal accountability. I keep my mowing division running for the sole purpose of them being able to start earning and saving at a young age. The money in mowing is virtually nonexistent - but the work ethic and appreciation of money, interest, etc. is invaluable.

[Mike Leary]

My kids will be supported by ME while working to support themselves. Call it old-school, but I'm a big fan of personal accountability.

Agreed, dump the sig, I'm getting tired of you on the cowbell.

[AI Inc]

I'm not even sure what you're getting at...

My kids will be supported by ME while working to support themselves. Call it old-school, but I'm a big fan of personal accountability. I keep my mowing division running for the sole purpose of them being able to start earning and saving at a young age. The money in mowing is virtually nonexistent - but the work ethic and appreciation of money, interest, etc. is invaluable.

Well what I was getting at dosnt belong in here anyway, so I'll leave it alone.

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

Agreed, dump the sig, I'm getting tired of you on the cowbell.

I like the cowbell. That is Will Ferrell from SNL. One of the best skits ever.

[unit28]

Argos, very sweet family.

My dad had 12 brothers and sisters {the lucky 13}.
Born in Ida Betta Mississippi.
Dirt Floor, pot belly stove, and a .22.

May God Bless you and your family.

[Mike Leary]

I like the cowbell.

It's so repetitive.

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

If it wasn't for the cowbell thousands of people could never claim to be in a garage band.

[whoopassonthebluegrass]

If it wasn't for the cowbell thousands of people could never claim to be in a garage band.

:laugh::laugh:

That would be a dark place, indeed.

[RhettMan]

day 3, up at fo' ready to kic some mo'

[irrig8r]

I had a little red rooster
Too lazy to crow 'fore days
I had a little red rooster
Too lazy to crow 'fore days
He kept ev'rything in the barnyard
Eager settin' a-ready to lay

You know the dogs begin to bark
And the, the hounds
They begin to howl
You know the dogs they begin to bark
And the, the hounds
They begin to howl
You know my little red rooster's gone
Know the little red rooster's on the prowl...

- Willie Dixon

[irrig8r]

Well I guess I missed the chord changes in this thread...

Kids:
Best thing I've ever done. Three is plenty though. All helped me or at least rode along starting at about age 11 for a season or two. All have good work and study ethics and have had a series of interesting jobs. They also have a lot of fun and find time to travel. Happy to be a continuing part of their lives. My oldest thanked me the other day for the irrigation skills he learned from me after he put in a drip system for the house he and his wife bought in Sacramento.

[unit28]

the rooster..
is hot tonight

[RhettMan]

the rooster..
is hot tonight

that pizza looks good....

but the chinese buffet sauce... who taught you that?

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

Well I guess I missed the chord changes in this thread...

Kids:
Best thing I've ever done. Three is plenty though. All helped me or at least rode along starting at about age 11 for a season or two. All have good work and study ethics and have had a series of interesting jobs. They also have a lot of fun and find time to travel. Happy to be a continuing part of their lives. My oldest thanked me the other day for the irrigation skills he learned from me after he put in a drip system for the house he and his wife bought in Sacramento.

You are a great guy. My daughter told me when I asked her if she wanted to have my biz she said "I might break a nail." Course I knew it wasn't her thing.

[unit28]

that pizza looks good....

but the chinese buffet sauce... who taught you that?

dang man, this sooo hot, make you eye watta.
3 times hotter than Louisiana HS. And no funky flaver like tobasco...I like.

don't knock the rooster bro.:laugh:

[hoskm01]

Its 8 kids.

Hosk. I think I and the kids will ultimately contribute more to the economy then take.


And Im sure you will, and I hope you and your family will. A nice looking portrait, by the way.




Define "WAY too many kids" if you would.

Just because you can't see the reasoning of an argument doesn't automatically make that argument invalid. (Or IS that how you see the world? That would certainly explain a lot.)

I can see the reasoning of the argument, from both sides. I think creating an exorbitant amount of children is irresponsible for MOST people. Argos can obviously handle his family, and I believe he adopted a couple in there as well. Good for him, seriously. Hes obviously happy, 6-8 kids is workable for him, and hes not sponging off of anyone to support the family.

Welfare dependent women who are out for publicity and money have WAY TOO MANY KIDS, even if just one.

Having children should be like a drivers license- A privilege, not a right. It may suck for the majority of us who would never have problems having a few of our own, would know when to stop and could support them. But look at how many people have no clue how to parent, cant afford a child, get pregnant by mistake/ on accident etc when they are totally unprepared. If everyone had 3 or more children, the world would over-populate at an alarming rate, not that it isn't already.

I don't believe in some things. I don't believe other things are right where you may believe they are... I have an opinion and maybe I disagree with some on this. So be it! I may not like what you have to say, but I respect, more than anything your right to say it. I may not like what you do with your life, your business, etc... but I respect more than anything that it is YOUR right to do as you please (within the law, of course!).

Did that certainly explain a lot for you?

[whoopassonthebluegrass]

... I can see the reasoning of the argument, from both sides. I think creating an exorbitant amount of children is irresponsible for MOST people... Having children should be like a drivers license- A privilege, not a right. ... I may not like what you have to say, but I respect, more than anything your right to say it... I respect more than anything that it is YOUR right to do as you please (within the law, of course!).

Great response, thank you. I appreciate a level headed retort, and I agree with you. There ARE some out there who are so ill equipped for parenting that, by virtue of conceiving a child, are committing child abuse.

I apologize if I reacted too strongly. I just interpreted your "idiot families with WAY too many kids" to include ALL families of size. My bad.

:waving:

[hoskm01]

Great response, thank you. I appreciate a level headed retort, and I agree with you. There ARE some out there who are so ill equipped for parenting that, by virtue of conceiving a child, are committing child abuse.

I apologize if I reacted too strongly. I just interpreted your "idiot families with WAY too many kids" to include ALL families of size. My bad.

:waving:
Not at all.

Ive seen some ugly kids, and coming from a guy who wants, most likely, to have kids some day......






Those are some good looking boys!

[whoopassonthebluegrass]

Those are some good looking boys!

My little clone troopers. Though the picture doesn't reflect it too much, my boys all look so similar, it's crazy. Thank heavens they take after my wife and not me.