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snow
12-24-1999, 05:53 AM
I went to an open house at a local construction dealer last year, and saw a truck with a Branford sander on the back. It was a cool little spreader. Has anyone used these before? Also,does anyone know of dealers for them in CT? Thanks,<p>Bryan<br>http://www.snowplow.web.com

GeoffDiamond
12-30-1999, 01:32 PM
If a product was show at a dealer's open house i bet he sells the product. If you want to know about a bradford sander ask the dealer if any of the people he sold them to are willing to talk about them. <p>Geoff

snow
12-31-1999, 01:38 PM
What happened was one of the contractors there had one on his trucks, the dealer does not sell them.<p>Bryan

plowking35
12-31-1999, 02:49 PM
The bottom line is that almost all small v box spreaders are very similar and work pretty well. the engines are reliable, and they all use electric clutchs which also work well. The exceptions are Curtis who uses a pony engine(5 hp) over hydro. Smith industries and downeasterner who both offer an electric motor option.<br>Dino<p>----------<br> Professional Ice and Snow Management <br>Products:Services:Equipment www.sima.org

GeoffDiamond
12-31-1999, 03:01 PM
then why didn't ya ask the contractor about them?<p>Geoff

snow
12-31-1999, 09:06 PM
I would have asked the contractor, but, his truck had no company name or advertisements on his truck. There were also many people there so I couldn't find out who it was.<br>Bryan<br>http://www.snowplow.web.com<p>Happy New Year!!!

John DiMartino
01-22-2000, 08:15 AM
Hi everyone,I'm new to this forum.Snow, I have a Bradford sander,they are out of Walton,NY.I to haven't seen any others and wonder why.It is a great little unit,stainless,it's light weight and low profile make it a breeze to see around and it doesnt squat my 3/4 ton becaause it's only a .9yard unit.It is big enough to do all my accounts once without reloading.I know this is an old post,but if you want any info I'll dig up my manual and give you what I have.Think more snow everyone!

plowking35
01-22-2000, 09:20 AM
Hey John<br>Welcome to the forum, dont waste your time with little snow boy, he needs a spreader for his bicycle. Soe day when he gets older he can buy his very own snow equipment.<br>What powers your spreader, is it electric or gas. I have a smith/harder and it is an electric unit, and I love it.<br>Dino<p>----------<br> Professional Ice and Snow Management <br>Products:Services:Equipment www.sima.org

John DiMartino
01-22-2000, 09:31 AM
The spreader has a 5Hp briggs Quantum engine.It looks like it was lifted right out of a push mower-then they added a bigger fuel tank and a chain to the gearbox.I used to use an Airflow SS 1.8 yard w/8.5 briggs,I am amazed at how good the bradford works with only 5hp. Hey plowking35 I'm from Walden,NY and we just got 2-3'' thursday so I feel all warm and fuzzy after using my equipment.<p>----------<br>John D<br>

plowking35
01-22-2000, 09:59 AM
Is that anywhere near Poukeepsi? If so you need to hook up with John Parker from NY SNow Pros. He has a coated salt, that works magic.<br>We were forcasted for 4-7 and ended up with 1 inch. Way to go weathermen. I have seen that spreader before, but the cost is almost the same as a full size unit, so we went with that instead. I have an airflow unit also, on a 3/4 ton p/u. Its a 1.8 but we only put 1 yard on the truck.<br>Dino<br><p>----------<br> Professional Ice and Snow Management <br>Products:Services:Equipment www.sima.org

Lazer
01-22-2000, 10:30 AM
Dino,<br>Don't those forecasts bite? They've been wrong here, too. In the last 3 weeks they've called for over 3&quot; on 4 occations and we got nothing, a little salting maybe.<p>Oh well, I'd rather have them call for 7 and get 1 than the other way around!

John DiMartino
01-22-2000, 10:39 AM
I am about 1/2 hour from Poukeepsie,and I'd like to talk to him about the 0 salt.I bought the bradford used,so I dont know what it costs new.Do you?I paid 2200 and it was 1 year old and used twice maybe,It's like new.What do you guys spead with? I use salt/stonedust mix at 1 to 5.It doesnt make mud when it melts and gets wet,but I think sand is cheaper. <p>----------<br>John D<br>

snow
01-22-2000, 10:20 PM
This is to Dino, don't go nosing into other peoples business. If someone responds to my post, you don't have to yell at them. About the bicycle comment, I don't need one cause I have enough snow removal equipment as it is!<br>Bryan<br>

GeoffDiamond
01-22-2000, 10:30 PM
Snow, look you are going to have to take some sh-t, because of your age. Dino has a lot of knowledge in snow removal, and more knowledge in ice removal than myself. <p>You have asked some good questions in the forum, only you have also asked some stupid ones. I will also admit that i have asked some stupid ones myself as well as some stupid post.<p>The things you need to understand is that every plow and sander is designed by an engineer or a group of engineers. They are all well built. Each product is designed a little different then others, because each engineer has a different idea on design. When you said you wouldn't buy a Diamond or Meyer plow because it came off in two steps, you have got to understand that this can be good. If you are lucky enough to store you plow in a garage a Minute Mount would be great for you. When you get your first plow, you may realize the advantage of the two step install/remove system.<p>So what do you have for equipment?<p>Geoff

snow
01-22-2000, 10:36 PM
Ok, I will admit that most of my posts can be stupid. But with limited knowledge of some aspects of snow removal, I'm trying to learn about the best kind of plows/sanders.<br>My equipment is as follows:<br>*2 snowblowers; one two stage ariens w/ tire chains, and a single stage snapper<br>*Small fertilizer spreader for walkways<br>*various shovels,ice scrapers<br>*for bad conditions, I can call up to three friends with tractors with plows<br>*I also have many friends that plow, just in case<br>Not to bad for a 15yr old.<p>Bryan

GeoffDiamond
01-22-2000, 10:39 PM
how do ya go from job to job? Are your friends going to get you out a jam when they are dealing with the &quot;big one&quot;? How many jobs do ya have? The other thing is i bet your first truck is going to be used with a plow, so you may not have much of a choice in what you get for a plow.<p>Geoff

snow
01-22-2000, 10:43 PM
We haven't had anything bad yet, but the way it works is they can drive, and I help them because they don't have any snowblowers. I don't know about brands like Hiniker, because no one around here owns them. I already have a few options lined up for a truck. Regarding the meyer/diamond plow, not many guys have them around here, and the ones that do have not had that great experience hooking them up.<p>Bryan

GeoffDiamond
01-22-2000, 10:45 PM
what type of truck are you looking at?<br>brand, size plow or no plow?<p>How do you get from job to job on your own? How may jobs do ya have to go to?<p>Geoff<p>

snow
01-22-2000, 10:48 PM
I've been looking for an F250, w/wo a plow. If i did get a plow, it would either be a Curtis snowpro300, or a western. I'd also get a western pro-flo2 if i do any sanding/salting. I'm also looking for used stuff.<p>Bryan

GeoffDiamond
01-22-2000, 10:55 PM
See with used plow trucks you have to be open to almost every brand. You might not want a Diamond for your frist plow, but if you can find say a 95 f 250 with a diamond for 11K and 95 f 250 with a western for 15K and they were both in the same condition what one would you buy?<p>Like i just bought a 93 F 250 HD in great shape with a fisher plow, only i would have rather had a diamond. <p><br>Ya still haven't told me how ya get from job to job, or why ya two blowers you can only run one at a time.<p>Geoff<br>

snow
01-22-2000, 10:59 PM
I'd buy the one with a diamond. Becuase with the $4000 saved by not buying the one with the western, I could get any plow I wanted, and maybe a tailgate spreader. About my jobs, all are on my street, so I don't need a car to drive me there. The reason I have two snowblowers, the snapper I got about two years ago,used. This year, my cousin gave me his ariens. The snapper works great for small, dry snowfalls(1-2&quot;). But if one of my friends helpd me, they use the snapper and do sidewalk or walkways, it's very light.<p>Bryan

GeoffDiamond
01-22-2000, 11:08 PM
See you age is showing again. The diamond would move all the snow you wanted. So why would you want to not use a good plow. Put the saved money in the bank, or maybe get that spreader. See if the price between the trucks was even only a 1K i would still get the diamond one, and put a 1,000 in the bank. You need to think like that, because you will have repairs on any truck. Its better to have the cash and get the truck fixed, then have a broken truck and a western plow.<p>Geoff

snow
01-23-2000, 09:07 AM
Geoff what i meant to say was if i needed another plow, I'd have the $4000. I'd probably keep the diamond on the truck because I'd let the money grow and keep it until I needed to get a sander or whatever<p>Bryan

GeoffDiamond
01-23-2000, 09:14 AM
See snow your starting to learn. That is the way you have to think when your first getting started. <p>Geoff

snow
01-23-2000, 09:24 AM
Geoff, the thing around here is almost no one has diamond plows, so I can't tell if they're better than others. Also, around where I live, I have to learn all this stuff myself. That's why I ask a lot of questions, because I'm trying to learn.<p>Bryan

GeoffDiamond
01-23-2000, 09:31 AM
Ok Snow i am going to give you some homework.<p>Go to www.diamondplow.com<br>and www.meyerproducts.com<br> www.fisherplows.com<br> www.westernplows.com<p>I want you too look at the plows design in the pictures. Don't look at colors, spreaders, ect, just look at the plows design. Also you can request info from meyer and they will send you a cool bumper sticker.<p>Then tell me which plow is the strongest. Which one has a high curve, which plow you would buy and why. <p>You have one week.<p>And if you can come back with a good reason on what brand you picked. Maybe Dino will give you some respect, he has more information about ice removal, then i think anyone here.<p>Good Luck Kid<p>Geoff<br>

snow
01-23-2000, 09:35 AM
OK, Geoff, since I already have info from all those companies, it shouldn't be that big of a problem. I also have two meyer &quot;let it snowe,let it snow, let it snow&quot; bumper stickers.<br>I'm going have the specs of each brand for an 8' plow, here they are:<br>Fisher-29&quot; tall, 11gauge steel, 6 ribs, 4 springs, shipping weight 850<br>Western-28&quot; tall, 11 gauge steel, 3 trip springs, 7 vertical ribs, 710 lbs<br>Diamond-29 3/8&quot; tall, 11 gauge steel, 6 vertical ribs, 4 trip springs, shipping weight 800 lbs.<br>Meyer-28&quot; tall, 12 gauge steel, 6 vertical ribs, 4 trip springs, 759lbs<p><br>Bryan<p>

plowking35
01-23-2000, 10:41 AM
Sorry Brian<br>You have to understand that because of your age you will take some flack, however i commend you for your ambition, and future goals. If I had access to this info when I was your age I would have done and asked the same things. I hope that your equipment is all running well, and It is very smart of you to have an extra blower in case one breaks down, you can keep on going.<br>AS you grow in your business, I am sure the forum will help you, and you may be able to help one of us out someday.<br>BTW are the bumper stickers on your bike?<br>Humbly Yours,<br>Dino<p>----------<br> Professional Ice and Snow Management <br>Products:Services:Equipment www.sima.org<br>

GeoffDiamond
01-23-2000, 11:16 AM
Bryan,<p>the point of my homework was for you to decide what was the plow you would choose and why.<p>Then i might be able to help you a little bit more. <p><br>Geoff