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Florida Gardener
06-07-2009, 11:07 PM
i need advice here. i need a chainsaw that wont see tons of abuse. I need one to trim palms only for my customers. i dont plan on doing heavy duty tree work at least for right now. i already have a redmax pole saw attachment but i need a chainsaw for trimming palm boots and such.....

SfTD_service_CENTER
06-07-2009, 11:16 PM
dolmar ps5100 is a small saw but it cuts great i think you can pick one up at ammicks super store. solo and makita are the same as that saw or make saws same as that i mean. 50cc high perofrmance saw is a good size with a 20" or 18" bar. husky 346xp is a 50cc good saw 357xp is a bit bigger but is also a great saw. a stihl ms260 pro is also good 50cc they will all be arround 500-600 so be ready for that but they are very fast saws and make your day much easier than a non comercial saw. a 359 husky is a heavier non comercial saw for 550 it will do the same as those saws but it isnt as fast and it is heavier

Turf Commando
06-07-2009, 11:30 PM
Stihl MS 170 works nicely...

integrityman
06-07-2009, 11:38 PM
Stihl 210 will fit your needs. Very durable. Will last a long, long time.

Florida Gardener
06-07-2009, 11:42 PM
thanks for the replies so far....i have to say that i am a redmax guy and own all redmax handhelds, blower etc. but i do see virtually everyone using stihl chainsaws....

DaddyRabbit
06-07-2009, 11:58 PM
In all honesty a Stihl MS180 will cut what you described like a light saber. If you wanted to up the dosage a bit get a Husky 346XP. I have them both and neither have cons, only pro's.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/SonofSouth/StihlMS180C.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/SonofSouth/Picture003-2.jpg

Florida Gardener
06-08-2009, 12:13 AM
how much did that 180 run you if you dont mind me asking????

Nosmo
06-08-2009, 05:48 AM
Here is a link for info on Stihl saws with the retail prices. Stihl dealers I have had dealings with usually stick to the prices set by Stihl but may offer free merchandise along with the sale - eg extra chain or 2cycle oil.

http://www.stihldealer.net/categoryproducts-dealer-043131-toplvl-2-catid-2-subcat-2-catprods-38.aspx

Nosmo

MarcSmith
06-08-2009, 07:01 AM
stihl ms192 light as a feather. good for in the tree work and wont break the bank.


if you wan to go budget then you can always go with the echo.. cs330...

I'm a big fan of top handle saws for tree work... while in the tree or in a bucket.

DaddyRabbit
06-08-2009, 07:02 AM
I believe I paid $190 OTD.

how much did that 180 run you if you dont mind me asking????

kaferhaus
06-08-2009, 08:26 AM
For trimming a Arborist (top handle) saw is the way to go. While I'm NOT a fan of Redmax equipmnet they do make a nice little Arborist's saw. Stihl and Husq make the best saws on the market.

Unless you have a Dolmar dealer close by I wouldn't buy anything they make. They have a very sparse dealer network and supply chain issues (much like Tanaka).

bill w
06-08-2009, 11:34 AM
If what I've read about palm juices eating the metal on saws is true, I'd go cheap and the more plastic the better.

MarcSmith
06-08-2009, 12:10 PM
Palm juices eating metal??? My cs330is about 15 years old. spent the first 5 years working doing mostly sabal and Washingtonian palm trimming. clean it up after each use and replace the bar as needed make sure its oiled. No problems..

bill w
06-08-2009, 12:31 PM
Palm juices eating metal??? My cs330is about 15 years old. spent the first 5 years working doing mostly sabal and Washingtonian palm trimming. clean it up after each use and replace the bar as needed make sure its oiled. No problems..

Yeah, I got my information from another site (with pictures...not pretty) and cleaning after each use is said to be the best prevention. No personal experience.

MarcSmith
06-08-2009, 01:12 PM
Ihate ot say it by Chain saw are probably to most neglected tools

folks (my guys included) rarerly ever take the cover off to clean around everything, usually they cut and then toss it in the rack and then wonder why it wont' run right or cut good the next time they use it.

Palms are very high moisture content plus very "stringy"

We have 2 of the MS192's here on campus and a couple the larger stihls as well, but folks always grab for the 192

for a such a small saw, they are really nice and comfortable to use.

lawnpro724
06-08-2009, 01:18 PM
Jonsered makes a very reliable and well made saw. I have there 2050 saw and its a beast and has plenty of power to cut through anything.

Quality Cuts PLS
06-08-2009, 03:51 PM
Since you have RedMax, Check out the G3100T or GZ3500T top handle aborist saws with 12 or 14 inch blades.

ProTouch Groundscapes
06-08-2009, 04:17 PM
we do work along a tree company and they use the stihl top handle ms200t saw and that thing is an absolute beast for an arborists saw, we haul all their oak and maple as we use it for firewood ourselves and sell it, and that thing will cut through that wood so well.

doug1980
06-08-2009, 04:29 PM
Well me having been a lumberjack for 8 years I have my preferences due to experience. I would stick with Stihl. Size depends on the work you plan to do. I have 5 different saws for various uses. For what you are talking about using it for a 021 would be very good for a multi purpose saw or a ms 200T for more control in tight spots.

MarcSmith
06-08-2009, 07:03 PM
Well me having been a lumberjack for 8 years I have my preferences due to experience. I would stick with Stihl. Size depends on the work you plan to do. I have 5 different saws for various uses. For what you are talking about using it for a 021 would be very good for a multi purpose saw or a ms 200T for more control in tight spots.
doug

have you used a 192 before? other than the extra 5 cc I just did not think it was worth the extra $$$$

I'll be up in alaska next month on a cruise from Vancouver. Looking forward to seeing your part of the country...

joed
06-08-2009, 07:16 PM
Stihl MS211

It just came out this year. Has a 35 cc engine, new strato-charged engine that produces less emissions and is 20% more fuel efficient that conventional 2-strokes of the same size. It is also very light weight at 9.5 lbs. Comes with a 16" bar.

If you wait till the fall, Stihl usually offers deals for their saws whereby you get a free case, chain and cap.

doug1980
06-08-2009, 08:24 PM
doug

have you used a 192 before? other than the extra 5 cc I just did not think it was worth the extra $$$$

I'll be up in alaska next month on a cruise from Vancouver. Looking forward to seeing your part of the country...

I sure haven't.

You should come in the winter, and enjoy the 18 hrs of darkness and -40 degree weather. It is beautiful but I'll be so glad to leave here.

MarcSmith
06-08-2009, 09:15 PM
You should come in the winter, and enjoy the 18 hrs of darkness and -40 degree weather. It is beautiful but I'll be so glad to leave here.

sorry it was a stretch for me to move back to VA from Florida...I'm a tropical blooded boy at heart... I hate the cold...

hornett22
06-08-2009, 10:11 PM
i have a tree service.we use Stihls for top handle climbing saws.everything else is Husky.that is how it is with 99.9% of the tree services around here.i know at least 30 different tree guys and only two run all Stihl.

tamadrummer
06-08-2009, 10:42 PM
I would say no smaller than the 250 for a rear handle saw or the 192T for a top handle.

In one of the trade magazines, they said the Red Max saws are excellent little saws that are relativly cheap and last a long time.

4 seasons lawn&land
06-08-2009, 10:45 PM
stihl may have ruined all there other handhelds but they still seem to have it when it comes to saw's. I run all red max but the saws are stihl. Had I known about the top handle red max arbor saw I might have gone with that but I bought a Stihl TE 170 arbor saw this winter and like it. Plus Red max doesn't make large saws... so I go with who has more to offer in the area I'm looking in.

BadRancher
06-08-2009, 11:01 PM
I have always liked the husqy's in the saw dept. But I have friends that in are in the tree removal contractors business and the only run Stihl. Come to think of it, I've never heard of any problems with Stihl. So those would be my top picks. I would also advise that you get a (top handle) bigger saw for safety purposes. You also may never know when a bigger saw could make you some good money, and you won't be kicking yourself in the butt for not getting a bigger saw. Also on the plus side if you get a commercial Husqy or Stihl and rarely use it, I will last forever. Even if you use it moderately it will still last a long time.....

I not sure how experienced you are with a saw, but if you are not I would advise getting someone well weathered to cut with you some and show you the safe ways of using. Even the 10' tall small trees can use your saw against you and cause injury or they can hurt you by themselves.

ancjr
06-09-2009, 12:31 AM
I like my Stihl M180. Starts easy, cuts great on everything up to about 10". 14" ash slowed it down, but it didn't bog. I put about 2-3 hours a week use on it, doing trimming, felling and bucking firewood. The fuel tank does seem small if you're doing a bunch of firewood, but anything bigger (longer bar, bigger engine) would be overkill for me.

2brothersyardcare
06-09-2009, 06:25 AM
farm boss man

ProTouch Groundscapes
06-09-2009, 04:40 PM
ive heard from tree companies who bought the 192, they said they either returned them for 200t's or wished they would have just spent the money on it to begin with. me? i havent used either so i couldnt tell you for sure, just what ive heard.

around here its stihl almost exclusively. ive always ran stihl handheld and never had an issue with them, just take care of them and they will last you forever.

we run 2 ms290 farm bosses for quick stuff and we have the big 460 magnum for anything serious, and like i said we deal almost exclusively with oak and maple, no softwoods whatsoever. we have an older eager beaver top handle that i use to cutting shrubs and such, hell, its lasted this long im gonna run it till it dies then buy a 200t

Nosmo
06-09-2009, 05:44 PM
Get a MS 880 Stihl and it'll mow them palm trees down. hah

Seriously if the heaviest trimming you're going to be doing is on the palms occassionally there are two Stihl saws I'd recommend.

The 200T if you are going to be trimming from up in a bucket lift or the 250 if you are doing trimming on the ground.

The 200T is a professional aborist saw and with a 14" bar is going to run just about $600.00 before taxes.

The MS 250 is the largest of the homeowner/occasional use saw and will cost about $325.00 before taxes.

I use a MS 250C for felling trees up to 10 or 12 inches and have no trouble bucking them for firewood.

You might check into the 180 and it may be what you would like.

Nosmo

hornett22
06-09-2009, 10:58 PM
ms192 is a trimming saw.ms200 is a take down saw.both good saws.i have both.

xxl
06-09-2009, 11:07 PM
Ms 660 Stihl 18 inch bar and if you get a big tree slap the 30 inch bar on it and let it eat also the dual port muffler workes great

The 660 is way over kill its the one tim allen would buy ArArAr More power:weightlifter:

I have a ms 260 very nice saw also echo had out a cs346 those are reliable

Sorry maybe i missed how thick of would do you need to cut thought

Nosmo
06-10-2009, 05:20 AM
Among my saws I also have a MS260 Pro . It will make quick work on a medium size tree. Here is a tree I recently felled and cut up with the 260.

Nosmo