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steveparrott
06-10-2009, 07:54 AM
Has anyone in TX been following the progress of the TX House Bill 2649?

Apparently, there was language that sneaked into an amendment to restrict lighting design to certain engineering and architectural professions. I read that the IES and IALD supported a very effective grass roots and lobbying campaign to protest the amendment.

According to an IALD press release (http://www.iald.org/media/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=521&), the protest was successful and the language was withdrawn.

All you TX guys should be very grateful to the IES and IALD for going to bat for you.

Anyone have any further details?

Lite4
06-10-2009, 08:53 AM
Who were the parties that were paying off the public officials to introduce the bill?

JoeyD
06-10-2009, 09:27 AM
here is what I got....


Lighting Industry Insiders Help Avert Outlawing Non-Licensed Lighting Designers in Texas
Source/Type: Reported News

Author: LIGHTimes News Staff

June 9, 2009... On May 27, 2009, the Texas State Legislature passed House Bill 2649, which included amendments that essentially outlaw non-licensed lighting designers in the state. Specifically the bill stated, "A person may not perform or offer to perform lighting design services unless that person is: licensed as an engineer under this chapter; registered as an architect, landscape architect, or interior designer…."

The bill was reportedly received in committee on May 8th, and it was reported out of committee on may 23. Then it subsequently was passed in the Texas State Legislature. Apparently an influential constituent prompted the a State Legislator to propose that part of the bill.

Many in the lighting community complained that the fast passage of the bill did not allow input from those it would effect. Hundreds of phone calls and protest letters were received. Texas Senator Kip Averitt, the principal sponsor of the language in the bill, indicated that he would be willing to allow the problem to be referred to the Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation for further study. IES Public Letter, and IALD News Release

Mayor_tx
06-10-2009, 09:52 AM
That was a scary few days. I heard about the bill passing and what changes may take place and nearly lost my lunch. It's ridiculous how easily some politicians agenda can affect so many people.

TXNSLighting
06-10-2009, 08:50 PM
Its scared the crap out of me! When i heard of it, it had passed, and those guys had already overturned it. I couldnt believe it got past some of us but it did. So glad it didnt actually pass.

INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting
06-10-2009, 10:36 PM
Absolutely absurd! To think that an "interior designer" would be better educated and more experienced in the craft of Lighting Design than a Lighting Designer. Makes you shake your head and wonder doesn't it?

You guys down there just have WAY too many rules, regulations and laws! What ever happened to "Land of the free" ?

TXNSLighting
06-10-2009, 10:49 PM
Absolutely absurd! To think that an "interior designer" would be better educated and more experienced in the craft of Lighting Design than a Lighting Designer. Makes you shake your head and wonder doesn't it?

You guys down there just have WAY too many rules, regulations and laws! What ever happened to "Land of the free" ?

:clapping::clapping::clapping:

Lite4
06-11-2009, 01:12 AM
You guys down there just have WAY too many rules, regulations and laws! What ever happened to "Land of the free" ?

The Left and right coasters voted in Chancelor Obama, that is what happened. Hmmm, ramming through legislation in a hurry in the dark of night before anyone notices. This sounds familiar.

David Gretzmier
06-11-2009, 01:40 AM
yeah, it makes total sense that obama is behind this, and not a group of engineers, landscape architects, or interior designers that donated to the committee members campaign that submitted the bill.

I would be behind a bill that would restrict the trade to folks who had to pass a comprehensive test and get yearly continuing eduaction credits for licensing purposes, and use the fees generated to pay folks to inspect jobs and police/investigate those who do not know what they are doing.

BrandonV
06-11-2009, 06:33 AM
well texas is the land of the lawyers from what I understand, we're catching up though in nc

INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting
06-11-2009, 06:46 AM
Hmmm, I always thought that Delaware was "the land of lawyers", followed closely behind by Florida and Pennsylvania.

Lite4
06-11-2009, 09:09 AM
[QUOTE=David Gretzmier;3036371]yeah, it makes total sense that obama is behind this, and not a group of engineers, landscape architects, or interior designers that donated to the committee members campaign that submitted the bill.

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This was clearly a "tounge in cheek" comment refrering to "the land of the free".....kind of. I forgot the smilies in my previous post.

BrandonV
06-12-2009, 06:08 AM
that and yall correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Texas the lawsuit capital of the world? I thought I hear somewhere that most of the crazy patent lawsuits and just generally out to make a buck off someone else lawsuits are filed somewhere in Texas.