Another PITA coustomer for me how friggin great

[mowerdude777]

Well one of the accounts that I got in April was always complaining about my work, she did not like it that a few grass clippings were always in her garden, I explained numerous times that I am trying my hardest to keep them out but some will still get in. So 3 weeks ago I started to mow around the gardens with my shield down, to keep grass out more. Well yesterday I mowed and it was ridiculously long ( around 7 inches I would guess). So I decided to cross cut and not charge her extra. And a bit of grass got in her garden. So about an hour ago I got home from all of toady's lawns and saw she called my house twice and did not leave a message either time. About 15 minutes ago she calls again and I answer and she says she is aggravated about the grass in the gardens, so I talk to her and discuss ways on how to solve the problem, and I suggest that I could bag around the gardens with a trim mower and charge her extra each time, and she says she can not pay any more ( I am very affordable, I charger her 17 per cut to mow her 1.20 acer lawn) so she said all of her old companies would not get nearly as much grass in the gardens, so I once more explained that I am trying my hardest to keep the grass out, so then she said look Ryan I will just find a company that will do better and charge the same or less, then she said she wants me to go over on next Wednesday and pick up my check, so I said I will just come right now, and she said she is doing something and does not want to pay now. So I say I will come for my check tomorrow, this is also the same account where my echo hand helds got stolen at, when I told her that she began Ito flip out, So my advice to all SE Mi LCO'S is to friggin stay away from Kathy Lesnau.

[Concrete Creations]

( I am very affordable, I charger her 17 per cut to mow her 1.20 acer lawn)

Are you serious? You really charge $17 to mow 1.20 acres?

[Scagguy]

$17 for over an acre? I wouldn't have done it for $60 let alone $17. She did you a favor. Move on and seriously look at your market rates.

[Woody82986]

Please, please, pleeeeease tell me that $17 for over an acre was a big fat typo...

[4.3mudder]

Ya, 17 for over an acre LOL, hopefully it is a typo, leave and never look back.

[LBLC_LCO]

( I am very affordable, I charger her 17 per cut to mow her 1.20 acer lawn)

Ouch man. Like said above, if that is what you are actually charging her, she did you a huge favor in finding someone else to do it.

[KCfireman]

man this thread is backfiring, I would've mowed that for $125.

[clipperslawnservice]

i do not drop the gate for less than $30.00 period, end of discussion.

[mowerdude777]

I know I sound like a low baller but I acctualy charged 18 not 17 I do need to rais my prices, but I am only 13,m plus she said she will find a service that will bag and charge less then I did

[QualityLawnCare4u]

Mowerdude, I don't care if you are 13 or 33, you can not cut grass for that low of a price. You attract dingbats like this and they think they can run over kids. Do all LCO's a favor and get your prices in line with your area. You are not even making enough to pay for your gas, you are actually paying her to do the lawn! I would not put up with her crap for 50 per cut! I will not drop my tailgate for less than 30 either and that better be a small yard with a very nice client.

[mowerdude777]

Mowerdude, I don't care if you are 13 or 33, you can not cut grass for that low of a price. You attract dingbats like this and they think they can run over kids. Do all LCO's a favor and get your prices in line with your area. You are not even making enough to pay for your gas, you are actually paying her to do the lawn! I would not put up with her crap for 50 per cut! I will not drop my tailgate for less than 30 either and that better be a small yard with a very nice client.

Most guys in my area will charge roughly 25-35 for a yard that bib, but I plan to rais my prices next year for sure

[tamadrummer]

I know I sound like a low baller but I acctualy charged 18 not 17 I do need to rais my prices, but I am only 13,m plus she said she will find a service that will bag and charge less then I did

I hope this is a joke thread. $17 for that much grass and this nasty hagg is asking for anything other than for you to pick up the check with a big glass of lemonade for you when you are done.

You are the reason we struggle to get the right prices for this work. I charge $65/acre. You don't have to charge that much but look at the disparity.

You cannot even be filling the tank on this lawn let alone buying a coke or gatorade after.

[QualityLawnCare4u]

I hope this is a joke thread. $17 for that much grass and this nasty hagg is asking for anything other than for you to pick up the check with a big glass of lemonade for you when you are done.

You are the reason we struggle to get the right prices for this work. I charge $65/acre. You don't have to charge that much but look at the disparity.

You cannot even be filling the tank on this lawn let alone buying a coke or gatorade after.

I would like to give her a price. Mowerdude, she will be glad to have you back with a raise! I do realize your area may be different than mine and I am considered high here. However, most folks who see my work say it is worth it!

[mowerdude777]

I frogot to mention once my stuff was stolen she said she did not want the police to be infoemed, cause she thought she would have to pay for my new equipment:confused::rolleyes::hammerhead::dizzy:

[freddyc]

I frogot to mention once my stuff was stolen she said she did not want the police to be infoemed, cause she thought she would have to pay for my new equipment:confused::rolleyes::hammerhead::dizzy:



That makes her an accessory to the crime.

1/ shes taking advantage of you because you're young--don't let her, and walk away.

2/ if you're equip was stolen recently, go file a police report....its unlikely you will see your stuff again but it will show that theres crime in the area

3/ as stated, no matter how young you are, thats at least a $40 job.

4/ let he get all the prices she wants----you could get 2 other accounts that pay the same in the same amount of time it takes you to do her

5/ you offered to bag---forget it unless you're really throwig a lot of grass in the beds. You, and your time are worth something. Will the woman pay a disposal fee?? Of course not. RUN AWAY from her now. You're worth more.

6/ take this as a lesson...people will ask you to do a million things for free. Ask her if she will come over and sharpen your blades next Friday--- I didn't think so!

[mowerdude777]

That makes her an accessory to the crime.

1/ shes taking advantage of you because you're young--don't let her, and walk away.

2/ if you're equip was stolen recently, go file a police report....its unlikely you will see your stuff again but it will show that theres crime in the area

3/ as stated, no matter how young you are, thats at least a $40 job.

4/ let he get all the prices she wants----you could get 2 other accounts that pay the same in the same amount of time it takes you to do her

5/ you offered to bag---forget it unless you're really throwig a lot of grass in the beds. You, and your time are worth something. Will the woman pay a disposal fee?? Of course not. RUN AWAY from her now. You're worth more.

6/ take this as a lesson...people will ask you to do a million things for free. Ask her if she will come over and sharpen your blades next Friday--- I didn't think so!

I agree this is a lesson, I did file a report, I did charge too little I most guys in my area would charge 30 for that lawn I should of charged 25, and yes she defientaly took advantage of me and it sucked.

[freddyc]

I agree this is a lesson, I did file a report, I did charge too little I most guys in my area would charge 30 for that lawn I should of charged 25, and yes she defientaly took advantage of me and it sucked.



Good for you Ryan. For a young guy you have integrity and yopu did the right thing. Years from now you will look back and reflect on this----you will never miss that $17 but you hate yourself if you let her continue to walk all over you. She needs a dose of reality. Just remember one thing---if you ever got hurt on her property or if anything ever hapenned to her house she'd be the first in line to blame you. That thing with your equipment shows you exactly how she thinks.

[mowerdude777]

Good for you Ryan. For a young guy you have integrity and yopu did the right thing. Years from now you will look back and reflect on this----you will never miss that $17 but you hate yourself if you let her continue to walk all over you. She needs a dose of reality. Just remember one thing---if you ever got hurt on her property or if anything ever hapenned to her house she'd be the first in line to blame you. That thing with your equipment shows you exactly how she thinks.

Yes she does need a dose of reality for sure, she is insane. And I am glad I no longer have to put up with her crap

[mowerdude777]

:angry::realmad::wallWell I called to tell her I was heading out to get my cash,and she did not answer, but we drove by her house and saw the lights were on, so I knocked at the door and she says I did not call, and she says she has been home all day. So I say I need my money and she asks if I am upset. I said yeah because I called and now you are saying I didn't call. She said she didn't apprecictae the way I was acting and I said well I don't appreciate the way you are acting either. After she gave me the money i asked her why she was so concerned about a few clippings in her garden when there are so many weeds in it. She got mad and slammed the door.

[LushGreenLawn]

Come on guys, this is obviously a joke. I have a feeling bobbyG is at it again.
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[mowerdude777]

Come on guys, this is obviously a joke. I have a feeling bobbyG is at it again.
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this is not a joke

[kaferhaus]

I wouldn't have put up with her crap for $75 a cut...... at 75 bucks it's a mow blow and go at the most.

So long as you didn't have the chute pointed at the garden I'd have just told her "got a rake lady? won't take you but a few minutes to clean that right up" (obviously I wouldn't have said that right off... but after explaining that there's no way I can prevent a single blade of grass getting in there as the wind could and will blow it in there anyway..) 2nd or third time she brought it up she'd have gotten the rake comment.

And the other guys are right, you were paying that beeeatch to cut her grass son, you weren't making a penny for your time.

And rule number one... get paid when you do the job.... doing it for nothing AND extending her credit?????

[mowerdude777]

I wouldn't have put up with her crap for $75 a cut...... at 75 bucks it's a mow blow and go at the most.

So long as you didn't have the chute pointed at the garden I'd have just told her "got a rake lady? won't take you but a few minutes to clean that right up" (obviously I wouldn't have said that right off... but after explaining that there's no way I can prevent a single blade of grass getting in there as the wind could and will blow it in there anyway..) 2nd or third time she brought it up she'd have gotten the rake comment.

And the other guys are right, you were paying that beeeatch to cut her grass son, you weren't making a penny for your time.

And rule number one... get paid when you do the job.... doing it for nothing AND extending her credit?????

the area she did not want grass was like a garden then roughlu 60 inches of turf then more garden, plus the gardens were always weed infested

[LushGreenLawn]

this is not a joke

Come on man, stop trolling. Do you really expect everyone to believe that you would cut a lawn that size for $18? No one is dumb enough to do that. Your just trying to get a rise out of people.

[mowerdude777]

Come on man, stop trolling. Do you really expect everyone to believe that you would cut a lawn that size for $18? No one is dumb enough to do that. Your just trying to get a rise out of people.

The prices in my area must be lower then the ones in yours, but most guys in my area charge around 22 for that yard, and I am cheeper then most guys, my uncle had a service earlier this year that charged him 10 per cut

[topsites]

Who's equipment were you using?
That stuff in your signature isn't cheap, how do you pay for it at these rates?

Are you sure it was really an acre?
Because it is a little bit hard to believe...

Come on man, stop trolling. Do you really expect everyone to believe that you would cut a lawn that size for $18? No one is dumb enough to do that. Your just trying to get a rise out of people.

Lmfao that's just like me saying I don't believe some of the income claims :p

[mowerdude777]

Who's equipment were you using?
That stuff in your signature isn't cheap, how do you pay for it at these rates?

Are you sure it was really an acre?
Because it is a little bit hard to believe...



Lmfao that's just like me saying I don't believe some of the income claims :p

I service 10 accounts per week with a price varing from 15 to 19 pre cut, The Red Max I got new, the edger I got for 40 used, and I only had one blower stolen, so I just an using my one that did not get stolen, and I was sure that it was over a acer, I looked up the propertry

[mowerdude777]

I also frogot to mention, she treated me and my helper (bobcatguy96) extreamly rude

[Scagguy]

I also frogot to mention, she treated me and my helper (bobcatguy96) extreamly rude


I'm not surprised. At $17 an acre, you sure has hell don't get any respect.

[1993lx172]

I won't touch anything over half an acre for less than $70(anything up to 1/2 acre $35 and after that it's $70 any thing over an acre, like your 1.2 acre job, I add another $35, for 2 acres its $140 and so on). Mower you really need to reconsider your pricing structure because like someone else already said you are basically paying her for the work you did.

[mowerdude777]

I won't touch anything over half an acre for less than $70(anything up to 1/2 acre $35 and after that it's $70 any thing over an acre, like your 1.2 acre job, I add another $35, for 2 acres its $140 and so on). Mower you really need to reconsider your pricing structure because like someone else already said you are basically paying her for the work you did.

I have all ready started to re do prices, a neighbor of one of one of my lawns was so impressed with my work she hired me, I am charging 20 per cut for this .15 acre

[mowerdude777]

Heres why I only charged 17, I was dumb enough to listen to her on the phone when she first hired me, she said the yard was small and that there were no obsticles, oh boy did I feel like a ididot when I showed up the first time

[1993lx172]

Heres why I only charged 17, I was dumb enough to listen to her on the phone when she first hired me, she said the yard was small and that there were no obsticles, oh boy did I feel like a ididot when I showed up the first time

Ok, I get ya. That has happened to me a few times. I know that feeling when you pull up for the first time and realize you just screwed yourself royally. I believe that there's a saying that say "In God we trust all others we verify" I wasn't trying to belittle you or anything in my post I was just trying to get an idea of how this happened but if it came across that way I apologize. The price for the .15 is about right for that size yard.

[mowerdude777]

Ok, I get ya. That has happened to me a few times. I know that feeling when you pull up for the first time and realize you just screwed yourself royally. I believe that there's a saying that say "In God we trust all others we verify" I wasn't trying to belittle you or anything in my post I was just trying to get an idea of how this happened but if it came across that way I apologize. The price for the .15 is about right for that size yard.

Once I showed up the first time, I made sure I was at right house 3 times before I even started the mower, I was royaly pissed once I was done mowing, it took me 35 minnutes just to mow that lawn. It is just not right when people have to be this rude.

[LushGreenLawn]

Ok, I get ya. That has happened to me a few times. I know that feeling when you pull up for the first time and realize you just screwed yourself royally. I believe that there's a saying that say "In God we trust all others we verify" I wasn't trying to belittle you or anything in my post I was just trying to get an idea of how this happened but if it came across that way I apologize. The price for the .15 is about right for that size yard.

$20 for any size lawn is never "about right"

I still think this kid is pulling everyones chain. The average price for an acre in his neighborhood is $22? not realistic. It would be more than $22 an acre if you were mowing 100 of them with a batwing mower.

[Big Bad Bob]

I know I sound like a low baller but I acctualy charged 18 not 17 I do need to rais my prices, but I am only 13,m plus she said she will find a service that will bag and charge less then I did

Good luck to her and the next sucker she gets to mow and put up with her crapfor less than $17.00 for 1.2 acres.:laugh:

[Big Bad Bob]

Most guys in my area will charge roughly 25-35 for a yard that bib, but I plan to rais my prices next year for sure

I think, no, I know, that even $35.00 is way too low.

[bigslick7878]

1.2 acres for 17 bucks LOL.

This has to be a level,and not a very good one at that.

13 years old huh?

Do you hook the trailer up to your bike and pull all that equipment?

[93Chevy]

$20 for any size lawn is never "about right"

I still think this kid is pulling everyones chain. The average price for an acre in his neighborhood is $22? not realistic. It would be more than $22 an acre if you were mowing 100 of them with a batwing mower.

He lives in Michigan. There's only about 5 people left in that state. Enough said?

Hopefully that lady will get a dose of reality soon.

[Big Bad Bob]

The prices in my area must be lower then the ones in yours, but most guys in my area charge around 22 for that yard, and I am cheeper then most guys, my uncle had a service earlier this year that charged him 10 per cut

You guys better'd get your water checked. It's being spiked by somebody.

[Big Bad Bob]

The prices in my area must be lower then the ones in yours, but most guys in my area charge around 22 for that yard, and I am cheeper then most guys, my uncle had a service earlier this year that charged him 10 per cut

You guys better'd get your water checked. It's being spiked by somebody.
Either that or there's a lot of short buses in your school district.
Aren't any of the fast food restaurants hiring?

[Big Bad Bob]

I also frogot to mention, she treated me and my helper (bobcatguy96) extreamly rude

LOLOLOLOL :hammerhead: You mean to tell me that on top of everything else, you are splitting the $17.00 with someone else?
You need to have a talk with your parents. This appears to be child abuse.

[LushGreenLawn]

He lives in Michigan. There's only about 5 people left in that state. Enough said?

Hopefully that lady will get a dose of reality soon.

Not sure what "only 5 people left in that state" means.

He needs the dose of reality, the lady will continue to do what she does as long as theres some idiot there to put up with it, and why not.

[LushGreenLawn]

LOLOLOLOL :hammerhead: You mean to tell me that on top of everything else, you are splitting the $17.00 with someone else?
You need to have a talk with your parents. This appears to be child abuse.

wow, I missed that. An acre lawn for $8.50 each. Do you guys see what I mean, there's no way. Just someone looking for a reaction, BobbyG style.

For those of you who don't kow what I mean by bobbyG. he was a member who would always post something off the wall, to start arguments. Stuff like this.

[93Chevy]

Not sure what "only 5 people left in that state" means.

It means Michigan sucks. Economically speaking. Auto industry is kaput. Not wanting to get into a political debate here, but everybody is leaving.

[mowerdude777]

LOLOLOLOL :hammerhead: You mean to tell me that on top of everything else, you are splitting the $17.00 with someone else?
You need to have a talk with your parents. This appears to be child abuse.

No my helper is my best friend, he is my age, we do not split our money, I pay him minum wage

[mowerdude777]

1.2 acres for 17 bucks LOL.

This has to be a level,and not a very good one at that.

13 years old huh?

Do you hook the trailer up to your bike and pull all that equipment?

No I use thew wb, and have my friend/helper take a garden cart of hand helds down to the site

[mowerdude777]

LOLOLOLOL :hammerhead: You mean to tell me that on top of everything else, you are splitting the $17.00 with someone else?
You need to have a talk with your parents. This appears to be child abuse.

I do not need to put up with your bull, I run my small busnises and am very proud of it, I am not sitting on my ass playing video games. I am actualy making money

[AndyTblc]

No my helper is my best friend, he is my age, we do not split our money, I pay him minum wage

:hammerhead: michigan sucks, but not that bad, I'm right around $50/acre

[mowerdude777]

:hammerhead: michigan sucks, but not that bad, I'm right around $50/acre

Yes michigan does suck, in my area most lcos are just a bit cheeper then other areas, my grand parents live in the western part of the state, and have a acre, and it gets cut for 43 each week

[AndyTblc]

I live near grand rapids, and some spots are high, and where I am it's kind of lower, but yeah, $17 was bad

[mowerdude777]

I live near grand rapids, and some spots are high, and where I am it's kind of lower, but yeah, $17 was bad

Yes it was, as I stated I did a estimate over the phone :hammerhead::dizzy::laugh: I felt like a idiot when I showed up the first time just to see how big the yard really was

[AndyTblc]

Yes it was, as I stated I did a estimate over the phone :hammerhead::dizzy::laugh: I felt like a idiot when I showed up the first time just to see how big the yard really was

Thats like, one of the 10 commandments right there. NEVER EVER NEVER give a quote over the fone.

[mowerdude777]

Thats like, one of the 10 commandments right there. NEVER EVER NEVER give a quote over the fone.

Yes I have learned my lesson for sure, I will never do that again

[beegreenlandcare]

I do not need to put up with your bull, I run my small busnises and am very proud of it, I am not sitting on my ass playing video games. I am actualy making money

Sorry can't resist to chime in but have to disagree with you. NO your NOT making money. Your actually paying to do that lady's yard AND your screwing up the market for real businesses in the process.:dizzy:

[LouisianaLawnboy]

Heres why I only charged 17, I was dumb enough to listen to her on the phone when she first hired me, she said the yard was small and that there were no obsticles, oh boy did I feel like a ididot when I showed up the first time

Never give a definite price over the phone. An acre is AT least 45. 25 an acre is way out line. 25 is trailer lot.
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[LouisianaLawnboy]

I do not need to put up with your bull, I run my small busnises and am very proud of it, I am not sitting on my ass playing video games. I am actualy making money

If you are for real. I applaud you, but you need to restructure your prices BIG time. If I was you, try to get at least 30 an hour.

And to think I'm upset if I don't 60 an hour.
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[LouisianaLawnboy]

Sorry can't resist to chime in but have to disagree with you. NO your NOT making money. Your actually paying to do that lady's yard AND your screwing up the market for real businesses in the process.:dizzy:

Layoff......
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[topsites]

Even thou I realize this type of thing tends to make some of us angry,
I would suggest someone quietly and politely ask a moderator or
an administrator to remove the customer's name from this thread.

[Big Bad Bob]

Once I showed up the first time, I made sure I was at right house 3 times before I even started the mower, I was royaly pissed once I was done mowing, it took me 35 minnutes just to mow that lawn. It is just not right when people have to be this rude.

:laugh::hammerhead::laugh::hammerhead::laugh::hammerhead::laugh::hammerhead:
Why in the hell didn't you tell her you needed more money? With paying your "best friend" minimum wage, your gas and equipment purchases, you aren't making a dime. Why don't some of you guys grow a pair and stand up to these a##holes who want something for nothing?

You sure you aren't from Jersey? BG?? Get out that shovel.

[Sammy]

mowerdude777 profile says he has been in the biz for 6-10 years.
That would mean he started his biz when he was 3 - 7 years old. :laugh:

He has a helper 'cause he can't push his tool cart and get the mower to
the job site himself.

The site may be a 1.2 acre property, but, the lawn he mows may
be only a 1/2 - 3/4 acre or so after you take out the house,
walks, drive and gardens.

In this thread he says he is 13, back in January he said he was 14 ! :dizzy:

Sure is funny to see a 13 year old get all these grown men going ! :laugh: :laugh:


P.S.
I can't believe I read this whole thread.

[93Chevy]

Earlier in the year, I remember Mowerdude777 being one of the nicest guys on the forum with comments like "looks good" and "nice setup" in most of his posts.

[mowerdude777]

mowerdude777 profile says he has been in the biz for 6-10 years.
That would mean he started his biz when he was 3 - 7 years old. :laugh:

He has a helper 'cause he can't push his tool cart and get the mower to
the job site himself.

The site may be a 1.2 acre property, but, the lawn he mows may
be only a 1/2 - 3/4 acre or so after you take out the house,
walks, drive and gardens.

In this thread he says he is 13, back in January he said he was 14 ! :dizzy:



P.S.
I can't believe I read this whole thread.



I started when I was seven if you belive it or not. My friend wanted to start helping when I started my friend is almost 13, I let him begin once I got a wb, I must of made a typo in junary

[mowerdude777]

Never give a definite price over the phone. An acre is AT least 45. 25 an acre is way out line. 25 is trailer lot.
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I know, I defiently made a mistake in doing a estiment over the phone:dizzy:

[mowerdude777]

If you are for real. I applaud you, but you need to restructure your prices BIG time. If I was you, try to get at least 30 an hour.

And to think I'm upset if I don't 60 an hour.
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I allready got a new account (.15 of an acre) I am charging 20 per cut am I still to low on prices?

[mowerdude777]

Layoff......
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Thanks man

[mowerdude777]

:laugh::hammerhead::laugh::hammerhead::laugh::hammerhead::laugh::hammerhead:
Why in the hell didn't you tell her you needed more money? With paying your "best friend" minimum wage, your gas and equipment purchases, you aren't making a dime. Why don't some of you guys grow a pair and stand up to these a##holes who want something for nothing?

You sure you aren't from Jersey? BG?? Get out that shovel.

I did put I need to get more money each week in a invoice, she never replied, then 2 weeks later she fired me:hammerhead:

[topsites]

I did put I need to get more money each week in a invoice, she never replied, then 2 weeks later she fired me:hammerhead:

Oh, well in that case she did you a favor, I know it doesn't look that way since the customer likely didn't mean it
like that but this is how I look at these situations, if for no other reason than it helps me some with the anger.

See...
Now you don't have to deal with that anymore, it may not have ended the best way possible but considering
some of the alternatives it may have been the best way anyhow, and now that it is over you can move on.

Yup.

[mowerdude777]

Oh, well in that case she did you a favor, I know it doesn't look that way since the customer likely didn't mean it
like that but this is how I look at these situations, if for no other reason than it helps me some with the anger.

Now you don't have to deal with that anymore, it may not have ended the best way possible but considering
some of the alternatives it may have been the best way anyhow, now that it is over you can move on.

Yup.

Well when she fired me she said she will find a better and cheeper service that will bag:laugh:

[mowerdude777]

Earlier in the year, I remember Mowerdude777 being one of the nicest guys on the forum with comments like "looks good" and "nice setup" in most of his posts.

I just am very agravated on how this woman treated me and my friend, then tried to dead beat us as well

[bobcatguy96]

i never did like that account when i worked there

[93Chevy]

I just am very agravated on how this woman treated me and my friend, then tried to dead beat us as well

Oh, I can understand it. I was just sticking up for your stellar personality, that's all.:waving:

[LouisianaLawnboy]

I allready got a new account (.15 of an acre) I am charging 20 per cut am I still to low on prices?

Depends on what else is involved, but it sounds good for ur area and age
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[LushGreenLawn]

Depends on what else is involved, but it sounds good for ur area and age
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Actually, it is still very low.

[mowerdude777]

i never did like that account when i worked there

I know right

[mowerdude777]

Actually, it is still very low.

I have not done the estiment yet or even told the person my idea on price, Hows 23-25

[mowerdude777]

Depends on what else is involved, but it sounds good for ur area and age
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What do you mean by what else is involved

[LBLC_LCO]

I allready got a new account (.15 of an acre) I am charging 20 per cut am I still to low on prices?

I have not done the estiment yet or even told the person my idea on price, Hows 23-25

I'm not going to say anything other than, when you make contradicting statements from one page to the next, you are just adding fuel to the fire. This thread went downhill long ago, it's going to be a long climb back up.

[mowerdude777]

I'm not going to say anything other than, when you make contradicting statements from one page to the next, you are just adding fuel to the fire. This thread went downhill long ago, it's going to be a long climb back up.

Well I have it but I hace not started services, or even done an estement. I will do it when the person wants me there

[LBLC_LCO]

Well I have it but I hace not started services, or even done an estement. I will do it when the person wants me there

Estimates are usually the first step. Should be done before you get an account, I guess I don't understand what you mean.

Or maybe I'm just running my business completely a$$ backwards. lol.

[tamadrummer]

Being in business for as long as you have, How exactly does a 7 - 13 year old go about reporting income and paying taxes? You are creating a paper trail with invoices and so you have to be paying them.

[Big Bad Bob]

Being in business for as long as you have, How exactly does a 7 - 13 year old go about reporting income and paying taxes? You are creating a paper trail with invoices and so you have to be paying them.

I'm sure they're not making enough to be more than a "hobby" business and aren't subject to taxes.

[tamadrummer]

I'm sure they're not making enough to be more than a "hobby" business and aren't subject to taxes.

Regardless you still have to file.

[moremow]

I had one of these customer's similar to this young 13 year old guy. I picked her up last year and it only took about 2 cuts before she started complaining about something. The thing which she complained about was the height of the cut. She wanted it really low. I had the mower at 3" which was as low as I was going to go. I knew it would fry the yard if the hot sun go to the yard especially with the type of grass she had. Her biggest thing was her little pet poodle would trip over the grass when he ran and played. I thought of amputating his little legs which would have taken care of the problem. She would disparage my mower and asked me if I mowed other peoples yards with it. I said I sure do. She then said that she didnt know how I kept the customers I had if I mowed with that mower. Well that was the final straw. I said how about me just putting my mower on the truck and you can find somebody else. She was speechless. She asked me if any one else complained. I thought for a second or two and said, you know, out of the 20+ customers I had everyone was fine. They loved the way the yards looked and that she was the only person to complain. At the beginning of the year I did not call her to schedule her yard. She knew I was going to dump her. I went by her yard one day as I was going to another client in the neighborhood and her yard looked like crap. Looked like it was cut with 21" mower at about 2 inches tall. lol. ONe thing about this business is that you are your own boss. I have learned not to take crap from people who think I should be their door mat. Just because I cut grass for a living doesnt mean I am 10 years old and cutting for $5 a cut and hoping to get lemonade from them when they give me the $5 bill at the end of the day. I do good work and even have people who give me tips because of the good work. Letting some windbag let off steam everytime I pull up to the door wont be tolerated. I sometimes will ask a new client who cut their grass before. I usually can spot a pita pretty quickly now. Good luck to teens or anyone else in this business. Just do good work and you will get clients. Pita's will always be that way regardless of who cuts their grass over the years.

[mowerdude777]

I had one of these customer's similar to this young 13 year old guy. I picked her up last year and it only took about 2 cuts before she started complaining about something. The thing which she complained about was the height of the cut. She wanted it really low. I had the mower at 3" which was as low as I was going to go. I knew it would fry the yard if the hot sun go to the yard especially with the type of grass she had. Her biggest thing was her little pet poodle would trip over the grass when he ran and played. I thought of amputating his little legs which would have taken care of the problem. She would disparage my mower and asked me if I mowed other peoples yards with it. I said I sure do. She then said that she didnt know how I kept the customers I had if I mowed with that mower. Well that was the final straw. I said how about me just putting my mower on the truck and you can find somebody else. She was speechless. She asked me if any one else complained. I thought for a second or two and said, you know, out of the 20+ customers I had everyone was fine. They loved the way the yards looked and that she was the only person to complain. At the beginning of the year I did not call her to schedule her yard. She knew I was going to dump her. I went by her yard one day as I was going to another client in the neighborhood and her yard looked like crap. Looked like it was cut with 21" mower at about 2 inches tall. lol. ONe thing about this business is that you are your own boss. I have learned not to take crap from people who think I should be their door mat. Just because I cut grass for a living doesnt mean I am 10 years old and cutting for $5 a cut and hoping to get lemonade from them when they give me the $5 bill at the end of the day. I do good work and even have people who give me tips because of the good work. Letting some windbag let off steam everytime I pull up to the door wont be tolerated. I sometimes will ask a new client who cut their grass before. I usually can spot a pita pretty quickly now. Good luck to teens or anyone else in this business. Just do good work and you will get clients. Pita's will always be that way regardless of who cuts their grass over the years.

I agree we are ot doing crap jobs for next to nothing, I get tips all the time. I also am not just doing lawns I spread mulch, pull weekd and do much more

[mowerdude777]

Estimates are usually the first step. Should be done before you get an account, I guess I don't understand what you mean.

Or maybe I'm just running my business completely a$$ backwards. lol.

The person does not know when they have time for me to do the estiment, they want to be home when I do it. I think you run your company just fine and do great work as well.

[LBLC_LCO]

The person does not know when they have time for me to do the estiment, they want to be home when I do it. I think you run your company just fine and do great work as well.

Ok, So you do not have the account yet. You have an estimate to give. That makes more sense.


Or maybe I'm just running my business completely a$$ backwards. lol.

I was being sarcastic with my statement, but thanks!

[93Chevy]

I went by her yard one day as I was going to another client in the neighborhood and her yard looked like crap. Looked like it was cut with 21" mower at about 2 inches tall.

And I bet she's happy with it too.

There's enough people out there that like to get paid to make customer's yards look like crap to us.

Now I'm not saying I want my name attached to a lawn cut at 2" burned out and a weed patch, but if that's what the customer wants, then guaranteed there's somebody out there willing to cut it like crap to make a buck.

Good for them.

[mowerdude777]

And I bet she's happy with it too.

There's enough people out there that like to get paid to make customer's yards look like crap to us.

Now I'm not saying I want my name attached to a lawn cut at 2" burned out and a weed patch, but if that's what the customer wants, then guaranteed there's somebody out there willing to cut it like crap to make a buck.

Good for them.

Thats true, but I would drop the person so I would not have to leave a yard look so bad

[mowerdude777]

Ok, So you do not have the account yet. You have an estimate to give. That makes more sense.



I was being sarcastic with my statement, but thanks!

Yes I do need to do the estimate soon, other then that it looks good for me

[LouisianaLawnboy]

I have not done the estiment yet or even told the person my idea on price, Hows 23-25

Heres a hint for pricing. When giving an estimate do price in increments of 5.00, not 1.00.

[LouisianaLawnboy]

What do you mean by what else is involved

How many obstacles, edging, blowing, trimming, etc, etc,

[93Chevy]

Heres a hint for pricing. When giving an estimate do price in increments of 5.00, not 1.00.

Agreed. Most people like round numbers. Easier to remember, easier to get a cash/check for.

[cutterschoice24]

I agree with the rest of the lcos 17 or 18 a cut is way too cheap you actually have nice equipment how do you pay for that at the price you are charging just my 2 cents she did do you a favor though

[mowerdude777]

How many obstacles, edging, blowing, trimming, etc, etc,

The drice way was fairly small so it only took us a few minutes to edge or blow, there were 4 trees and 3 gardens to trim around, a huge play structure to trim around as well as a small woden fence.

[mowerdude777]

I agree with the rest of the lcos 17 or 18 a cut is way too cheap you actually have nice equipment how do you pay for that at the price you are charging just my 2 cents she did do you a favor though

As stated noumerous times before, I was stupid and did the estimate over the phone

[mowerdude777]

Agreed. Most people like round numbers. Easier to remember, easier to get a cash/check for.

I agree, next year I will round my preices to the nearest 5 or 10 that I can

[cutterschoice24]

OK mower dude first of all i respect the fact that your 13 years old and have a business that's awesome i started around that age and now I'm 26 and do very well 2nd of all do not and i repeat do not every give prices over the phone lesson#1 no matter how much they ask you and do not put up with people like that your time is worth something i started out doing a great job and charging standard prices even though i was only 13 at the time you know what your worth and its not 17 or 18 dollars a cut that's ridiculous 2nd of all don't listen to all of these other guys on here ragging on you I'm sure they have done the same thing we all have but live and learn and don't give up this won't be the first person you run into that wants something done for free.

[LushGreenLawn]

OK mower dude first of all i respect the fact that your 13 years old and have a business that's awesome i started around that age and now I'm 26 and do very well 2nd of all do not and i repeat do not every give prices over the phone lesson#1 no matter how much they ask you and do not put up with people like that your time is worth something i started out doing a great job and charging standard prices even though i was only 13 at the time you know what your worth and its not 17 or 18 dollars a cut that's ridiculous 2nd of all don't listen to all of these other guys on here ragging on you I'm sure they have done the same thing we all have but live and learn and don't give up this won't be the first person you run into that wants something done for free.

dude, that is the longest sentence i've ever seen.

[TXNSLighting]

The prices in my area must be lower then the ones in yours, but most guys in my area charge around 22 for that yard, and I am cheeper then most guys, my uncle had a service earlier this year that charged him 10 per cut

Youre spouting off alot of different prices for this yard, and theres no way in hell a reputable LCO would touch that for less than $50. Just sounds a little far fetched.

[Big Bad Bob]

Agreed. Most people like round numbers. Easier to remember, easier to get a cash/check for.

Unless you have to collect sales tax. Then $30.00 becomes $32.10.

[93Chevy]

dude, that is the longest sentence i've ever seen.

Ever read any Nathaniel Hawthorne? lol

[bigmudder77]

ya i wouldnt touch it for less than $100 if she can find some one cheaper let her do it

18 to mow that isnt making nothing and to deal with her sounds like alot more than its worth even at $100 and she gets grass in her garden

even if you bag it the grass dont all go in the bag and when the wind blows and there is grass any where in the yard if the wind is blowing toward her garden grass will get in there

id say thanks but this just isnt worth it

[mowerdude777]

Youre spouting off alot of different prices for this yard, and theres no way in hell a reputable LCO would touch that for less than $50. Just sounds a little far fetched.

There are a few lcos that I know in my that would do it for 50 max. Other then that I don't think it would be over 35 per cut if any other lco that I know did that lawn. prices are difrent in our areas I guess

[mowerdude777]

ya i wouldnt touch it for less than $100 if she can find some one cheaper let her do it

18 to mow that isnt making nothing and to deal with her sounds like alot more than its worth even at $100 and she gets grass in her garden

even if you bag it the grass dont all go in the bag and when the wind blows and there is grass any where in the yard if the wind is blowing toward her garden grass will get in there

id say thanks but this just isnt worth it

I was planing to drop the account sooner or later any ways, I was not making even close to enough money

[Big Bad Bob]

There are a few lcos that I know in my that would do it for 50 max. Other then that I don't think it would be over 35 per cut if any other lco that I know did that lawn. prices are difrent in our areas I guess

Do you mean lco's or kids with a mower?

[mowerdude777]

Do you mean lco's or kids with a mower?

I mean actual lcos

[LushGreenLawn]

I mean actual lcos

BS
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[mowerdude777]

BS
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Belive what you want ass hole

[Big Bad Bob]

Belive what you want ass hole

Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

[93Chevy]

BS
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Not trying to be argumentative here...
But why do you think you're in a better position to tell him what other LCO's would charge in an area you're not familiar with?
With the right equipment, 1.2 acres isn't that large. Now I'm not saying that 1.2 acres is worth under $20. However, in different areas of the country, especially where the economy is bad, such as Michigan, prices will vary.

[81Bronk36]

Raise your prices, I wont let my mom pay the kid across the street less then 20 for her yard and it is only about 6k sq ft.

On a totally off topic note, do you have any pics of your 32" ferris, I wanna see what one even older then mine looks like!?!

[LushGreenLawn]

Not trying to be argumentative here...
But why do you think you're in a better position to tell him what other LCO's would charge in an area you're not familiar with?
With the right equipment, 1.2 acres isn't that large. Now I'm not saying that 1.2 acres is worth under $20. However, in different areas of the country, especially where the economy is bad, such as Michigan, prices will vary.

I am in a better position because I have done extensive research into what it takes to run a lawncare business, and of course, I have done it myself. I am telling you, that in any part of the country, a legitimate LCO, paying taxes, payroll, insurance, depreciating equipment, and doing things as they should be done, cannot mow enough 1.2 acre lawns in a year for $35 to make a living on. Even if they were living in a homeless shelter. There is only so much time in a day, only so many 1.2 acre lawns you can cut. Even a solo op can only cut so many, and the only expense they lose is the payroll.

[mowerdude777]

Raise your prices, I wont let my mom pay the kid across the street less then 20 for her yard and it is only about 6k sq ft.

On a totally off topic note, do you have any pics of your 32" ferris, I wanna see what one even older then mine looks like!?!

I do not have any pics yet, but if I rember my camra when I am out and about I will get a fwe pics for you

[mowerdude777]

especially where the economy is bad, such as Michigan, prices will vary.

I agree that id most likely why the lcos in my area are much cheeper then the ones in other parts of the country

[PDLM21]

Anybody else smell a troll????

[suzuki0702]

I know I sound like a low baller but I acctualy charged 18 not 17 I do need to rais my prices, but I am only 13,m plus she said she will find a service that will bag and charge less then I did

lol are u push mowing it too!!!!?

[Riley24]

This thread made my night. Glad to be in the Northeast.

[mowerdude777]

lol are u push mowing it too!!!!?

Nope, most of the time we only will use the 48 at any account

[1993lx172]

How well do you like the ferris? I'm debating adding a wb to my line up or getting a 44" or a 48" deck for the lx172 and any info would be great. Thanks.

[93Chevy]

lol are u push mowing it too!!!!?

Good job for a first post. Most first posters ask dumb questions like "what ZTR should I buy?"

But instead of doing that, you decided to make fun of somebody. Thank you.

[mowerdude777]

How well do you like the ferris? I'm debating adding a wb to my line up or getting a 44" or a 48" deck for the lx172 and any info would be great. Thanks.

I absolutly love my ferris, the only reason I perfer my exmark is it does not leek oil like the ferris:cry:, but other then that my ferris has served its time and then some, If I were you I would get a ferris

[Disgruntled_Veteran]

Ryan no matter what some of the guys on here say , I gotta hand it to you . Your doing some serious work for a 13 year old and with some real equipment. I also did yards when I was your age but lol it was only with a push mower and trimmer and that was just my neighborhood . Keep up the good work

[suzuki0702]

Good job for a first post. Most first posters ask dumb questions like "what ZTR should I buy?"

But instead of doing that, you decided to make fun of somebody. Thank you.

im sensing a bit of sarcasm. notice my join date. sorry ive been busy making money and not contributing to this great community. forums are not new to me nor is business. your 21 and got it all figured out. let me know what im doing wrong here. i didnt realize the poster was 13. congrats on your accounts. BTW 93chevy. tighten your bowtie, gm is bankrupt. buy a ford!

edit: lol sorry i wasted my time. i see you jsut learned how to run a mower. good luck with your LLC . lol and your rubber mulch looks like crap at your daddies house. mess with the bull you get the horns!

[93Chevy]

im sensing a bit of sarcasm. notice my join date. sorry ive been busy making money and not contributing to this great community. forums are not new to me nor is business. your 21 and got it all figured out. let me know what im doing wrong here. i didnt realize the poster was 13. congrats on your accounts. BTW 93chevy. tighten your bowtie, gm is bankrupt. buy a ford!

First of all, I was ragging on you for making fun of somebody on your first post, not for only having one post.

Second of all, I don't have everything figured out. Yeah, that may sound like a canned answer from somebody my age, but come on. I go to bed stressed out every night. Is this for me? Why aren't I making any money? How do I get new business? Will I have to work 70 hours a week the rest of my life just get by? Will I always be single? How can I show my parents I appreciate them when all I do when I'm home from school is work, eat, and sleep? So no, I don't know much yet.

Third of all, if you've been here for almost a year, and your first post is making fun of somebody, it looks like you've got it all figured out. And maybe you'll learn that I'm sarcastic a lot, sometimes I say stupid stuff, and I try to be a nice guy most of the time. Maybe we can work this out and be friends.

Fourth, I'm not going to buy a Ford just because. I'm very happy with my Chevy.

[93Chevy]

edit: lol sorry i wasted my time. i see you jsut learned how to run a mower. good luck with your LLC . lol and your rubber mulch looks like crap at your daddies house. mess with the bull you get the horns!

Yeah, I'm the first person who wasn't born knowing how to run a walk behind. I'm also the first person who did a crappy first landscape job.

You sure know how to dish it out man, but geez, if somebody is sarcastic with you, watch out. Go ahead and dig up more dirt on me, I can take it.

[soloscaperman]

You say you pay your "friend" minimum wage and also state your stuff is stolen? If I'm correct you wrote he is the one that carries everything in a cart, well where does he put it and does he leave it in the open or hides it then steals it later. If your mowing he better be doing a good job weed wacking and blowing off.

[THC]

Fourth, I'm not going to buy a Ford just because. I'm very happy with my Chevy.

I have a 92 chevy sierra and a ford ranger. This spring I put power steering fluid in my chevys brake system now I have to drive that damn ranger :(

[93Chevy]

I have a 92 chevy sierra and a ford ranger. This spring I put power steering fluid in my chevys brake system now I have to drive that damn ranger :(

Oh bummer man. Except GMC makes the Sierra, but details, details.

What can be done with the brake system?

[THC]

Oh bummer man. Except GMC makes the Sierra, but details, details.

What can be done with the brake system?

I thought GMC was Chevy..

Anyway, the entire brake system including the master cylinder needs to be replace as far as I know. All the rubber seals are shot...

[mowerdude777]

You say you pay your "friend" minimum wage and also state your stuff is stolen? If I'm correct you wrote he is the one that carries everything in a cart, well where does he put it and does he leave it in the open or hides it then steals it later. If your mowing he better be doing a good job weed wacking and blowing off.

Most of the time I do all the mowing, He will edge and trim, and we usly will both run the blowers

[mowerdude777]

Ryan no matter what some of the guys on here say , I gotta hand it to you . Your doing some serious work for a 13 year old and with some real equipment. I also did yards when I was your age but lol it was only with a push mower and trimmer and that was just my neighborhood . Keep up the good work

I do yards in my neighborhood for the most part, but I have 4 accounts that my mom driver me and the 21s to

[93Chevy]

I thought GMC was Chevy..

Anyway, the entire brake system including the master cylinder needs to be replace as far as I know. All the rubber seals are shot...

It's the same truck, I mean, just a different manufacture. Chevy has the Silverado, and GMC has the Sierra.

Sorry, I'm anal when it comes to trucks. :usflag:

[soloscaperman]

because you started young. I think your a hard worker like me but you gotta understand that working hard is half and the other half is running a business right which you will learn more everyday. I will admit once in a awhile if I get a big job I get excited but you gotta breath slow and do the estimate right ,don't rush and think $ bags in your head running away. It's like buying something new don't just grab it do your homework and study it 100% and be sure.

Good luck and you will learn that this business is mostly about dealing with people.

[mowerdude777]

UPDATE
today I mowed for a house down the street from crazys house, she still has had no luck in finding that better cheaper service:laugh::laugh: the yard looks like a friggin meadow

[93Chevy]

Good for her man. Looks like she got bit.

[soloscaperman]

She will run back to you trust me. Most people bluff.

[mowerdude777]

She will run back to you trust me. Most people bluff.

The last thing I need is to ever deal with her again

[mowerdude777]

Good for her man. Looks like she got bit.

Hell yeah she probably has had numerous lcos out for estimates by now

[Disgruntled_Veteran]

UPDATE
today I mowed for a house down the street from crazys house, she still has had no luck in finding that better cheaper service:laugh::laugh: the yard looks like a friggin meadow

Ryan , now your learning my friend .. Revenge is sweet , well that kind is, things always work themselves out , never act out on anything tho LOL.. Karma is about the worse thing to tangle with bud.... Wait a week or two , go to her house and offer your services , this time hit her with a higher quote .. Ryan higher than 20 bucks too , lol.. I know you went up from 17 to 18 last time but make her pay you a fair wage (whatever that may be in Michigan , I can only imagine for that size property you should still get at the very least 35 but you make that call man ).. Now she will probaly say no , no prob you found out that she is someone you cannot make happy.. She also may realize she cannot find anyone that has ridiculously good prices like you do and someone that will put up with her nonsense and you might score one for the home team..

Good Luck lil dude...:cool2::cool2::cool2::cool2::cool2:

[Big Bad Bob]

Ryan , now your learning my friend .. Revenge is sweet , well that kind is, things always work themselves out , never act out on anything tho LOL.. Karma is about the worse thing to tangle with bud.... Wait a week or two , go to her house and offer your services , this time hit her with a higher quote .. Ryan higher than 20 bucks too , lol.. I know you went up from 17 to 18 last time but make her pay you a fair wage (whatever that may be in Michigan , I can only imagine for that size property you should still get at the very least 35 but you make that call man ).. Now she will probaly say no , no prob you found out that she is someone you cannot make happy.. She also may realize she cannot find anyone that has ridiculously good prices like you do and someone that will put up with her nonsense and you might score one for the home team..

Good Luck lil dude...:cool2::cool2::cool2::cool2::cool2:


Sure, in a dream world she'll change her attitude too.
Yeah. Maybe you'll get lucky and get her account back. :dizzy::hammerhead:

[frotis]

I found the house using google maps, its 0.36 acres.

[Disgruntled_Veteran]

Sure, in a dream world she'll change her attitude too.
Yeah. Maybe you'll get lucky and get her account back. :dizzy::hammerhead:

Sir I do believe I said "She will probably say no" there is a point for him going back and making a statement for himself.

[mowerdude777]

I found the house using google maps, its 0.36 acres.

hmmm from the source I used it said diffrient

[Big Bad Bob]

Sir I do believe I said "She will probably say no" there is a point for him going back and making a statement for himself.

A statement that he likes abuse. Do you really feel that lady is going to change her attitude just because he "comes to her rescue"? No! She'll just always find ways to make him, or any other lco, miserable.

[Disgruntled_Veteran]

A statement that he likes abuse. Do you really feel that lady is going to change her attitude just because he "comes to her rescue"? No! She'll just always find ways to make him, or any other lco, miserable.



No customer should make you miserable LOL life is way too short for that.. Like I said before she will probably say no , she has been getting a steal of deal times two. But she won't get that again. No rescue needed.. She is obviously a stubborn mean old mule , but she will see that at the very least he has wised up to her game and he is standing his ground.. When has making money not involved any abuse ....

[gdguth]

I want to know how long it took you to service this property? I am talking from start to finish. I hope no more than 20 mins.

[mowerdude777]

I want to know how long it took you to service this property? I am talking from start to finish. I hope no more than 20 mins.

roughly 35 minutes per week, if we just mowed and trimmed, if we edge or cross cut it tooks over a hour, it was a pita

[punt66]

how does a 13 year old have all that equipment? How do you drive to the accounts?

[mowerdude777]

how does a 13 year old have all that equipment? How do you drive to the accounts?

I hope to get a trailer soon, but for the accounts that are farther away we load up the 21s in my mom's mini van:laugh::laugh:. this account in the thread was one that we could walk to

[punt66]

how do you walk to them with a trimmer, mower and blower?

[punt66]

also just out of curiosity. Why are you doing this at 13? Why not do fun kid things?

[mowerdude777]

how do you walk to them with a trimmer, mower and blower?

If my helper is working he pulls a garden catr with the hand helds, if I am alone I stack the edger and trimmer on the mower and were the bp blower

[mowerdude777]

also just out of curiosity. Why are you doing this at 13? Why not do fun kid things?

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=258410 ( I made a typo, I am still 13)

[Disgruntled_Veteran]

Not sure what fun stuff he is doing but I imagine he has a few bones in his pockets (no bills at that age LOL ) to buy a few extra toys , sports equipment or games or whatever..
At least I hope he has some kind of childhood. We all know what happened to MJ

[mowerdude777]

Not sure what fun stuff he is doing but I imagine he has a few bones in his pockets (no bills at that age LOL ) to buy a few extra toys , sports equipment or games or whatever..
At least I hope he has some kind of childhood. We all know what happened to MJ

I am not really in to sports, but I do have a good time collecting oldbicicles and fixing them or just messing around

[LushGreenLawn]

Can't you tell the difference between a lawn that is 1.5 acres and .36 acres? You don't need to check a source to know that. Which is it, honestly, if it is .36, than you have at least earned some credibility back.
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[mowerdude777]

Can't you tell the difference between a lawn that is 1.5 acres and .36 acres? You don't need to check a source to know that. Which is it, honestly, if it is .36, than you have at least earned some credibility back.
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I knew it was bigger then .36, so I checked howw big it was, It was 1.20, not 1.50 I never said it was 1.50 acres

[bigslick7878]

Can't you tell the difference between a lawn that is 1.5 acres and .36 acres? You don't need to check a source to know that. Which is it, honestly, if it is .36, than you have at least earned some credibility back.
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He is just trolling,ignore it.

Just making it up as he goes along.

[frotis]

hmmm from the source I used it said diffrient

What "source" did you use?

[Charles]

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