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The mayor
07-12-2009, 09:10 PM
All these years in the business and now someone wants me to install stone instead of mulch. So the question is what do you charge.

93Chevy
07-12-2009, 09:17 PM
What kind of stone?

Around here #3 River Gravel is about $5 cheaper than double ground mulch. However lava rock is about $190 per ton.

Just charge the same at mulch, with the price adjusted for the price of stone.

Some river gravel tips:
1. Don't overload the wheelbarrow or you won't be able to pick it up. :laugh:
2. Don't dump the gravel on plants like you can with mulch. :laugh:
3. Did I mention don't overload the wheelbarrow?
4. Cut the same edge as you would for mulch.
5. Don't overload the wheelbarrow.
6. I usually use fabric with river gravel, although I never use it with mulch.
7. Take a hose and rinse all the mud and dirt off the rock when you're done.

Stillwater
07-12-2009, 09:48 PM
All these years in the business and now someone wants me to install stone instead of mulch. So the question is what do you charge.

You simply charge them what you need to charge them.

CLARK LAWN
07-12-2009, 10:59 PM
i charge more for stone than i do for mulch just because it takes alot more time to do the job( cant put as much in wheelbarrel, and cant haul as much on truck)

P.Services
07-12-2009, 11:00 PM
i charge more for stone than i do for mulch just because it takes alot more time to do the job( cant put as much in wheelbarrel, and cant haul as much on truck)

i agree 100% charge AT LEAST 25% more for stone.

bigslick7878
07-12-2009, 11:23 PM
Stone takes more than double the amount of time mulch does,and it is much harder labor.

The labor rates should reflect that.

JNyz
07-13-2009, 02:50 PM
For a three man crew the labor rate would be $180.00 per hour for stone installation plus the cost of stone and delivery.

hackitdown
07-13-2009, 04:45 PM
Just today we did 11 yards of crushed stone, and 3 yards of loam with 3 men. There was about 2 hrs of prep, and 6 hours to install the material. It took 8 hours for everything. But we were able to dump directly from the truck and just rake it level, no wheelbarrowing.

I can carry 3+ yards of mulch in my Chevy 2500. I learned that I can only carry about 1.5 yards of stone or dirt...so there was a lot more driving than expected. I didn't charge enough today. Live and learn.

grandview (2006)
07-13-2009, 04:51 PM
Are you talking 8 hours for 3 guys or 24 man hours?

Sometimes I like working with stone better then mulch.

As for hauling this is where I like my dump trailer.

Stillwater
07-13-2009, 04:55 PM
its the same... 24 man hrs is 3 men 8 hrs.

3 men@180x8=1440
1 man@60x24=1440

grandview (2006)
07-13-2009, 04:57 PM
its the same... 24 man hrs is 3 men 8 hrs.

But did he bill for 8 hrs or 24 hrs?

hackitdown
07-13-2009, 05:03 PM
But did he bill for 8 hrs or 24 hrs?

Not sure if you were asking me, but we worked 8 hours today, so 24 man hours to do 11 yards of stone, and 3 yards of loam. But just dump and rake.

They raked, I operated the truck :)

Stillwater
07-13-2009, 05:04 PM
according to post#8 he billed for 8hrs.

hackitdown
07-13-2009, 07:57 PM
according to post#8 he billed for 8hrs.

Huh? Don't understand.

Stillwater
07-13-2009, 08:22 PM
Huh? Don't understand.

I answered grandviews question