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emby
08-15-2009, 04:50 PM
Hey guys,

Just wondering if any of you have installed these before? I did not get a chance to open it up so I cannot even tell you what size it is.

Thanks

Ken

irrig8r
08-15-2009, 08:45 PM
Before my time. Interesting.

Lite4
08-15-2009, 11:16 PM
Wow, that wall is a mess!!

INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting
08-16-2009, 01:21 AM
I have never seen such a contraption before. I dont suppose there was a manual nearby... Is the timer still functioning?

emby
08-16-2009, 09:29 AM
Ah you guys just don't want to show your age! :)
The timer was not operating so I think it would be wise to remove and install a new transformer etc. I am going back to the site on Tuesday so I will look into it a little better. Thanks.

Ken

David Gretzmier
08-17-2009, 08:11 AM
Ah, the old 300 rt. I'm pretty sure it is a 300 watt, but I may be wrong. I have not seen one in 15 years plus. And I think one is all I saw. I seem to remember two taps at 150 watts each. Still work?

and yeah, that wall is a fire waiting to happen.

INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting
08-17-2009, 03:06 PM
Ah, the old 300 rt. I'm pretty sure it is a 300 watt, but I may be wrong. I have not seen one in 15 years plus. And I think one is all I saw. I seem to remember two taps at 150 watts each. Still work?

and yeah, that wall is a fire waiting to happen.

You can pull the wool over the eyes of some of the people, some of the time... :)

David that is clearly a Timer, not a powercenter. ETC = Electronic Time Clock. Also, look at the bottom of the timer in the photo and you will see the plug of the Nightscaping Powercenter that is plugged into it and hanging on the wall to the right of the ETC unit. I recognize that colour of green anywhere!

A quick and easy upgrade would be to purchase an INTERMATIC astro function timer from Home Depot and replace the ETC-300-RC unit. Assuming that the transformer is still working and no other upgrades are necessary of course.

Pro-Scapes
08-17-2009, 05:15 PM
I have removed a similar system. The trans was mounted about 9 ft in the air on top of a dock structure post. It had been painted several times so I was unable to read much but it was in fact nightscaping and if I rememeber right it had the fusestat on the bottom. Poor installation at best.

I wouldnt touch that system unless I was removing it. Juding by the other install pics you posted Ken and how clean your work was this is not on par with something you would put your name on. I assume since the trans area was done so sloppy that the rest of the system is in dire need of a reinstallation as well.

emby
08-17-2009, 07:31 PM
Hi Guys,

Sorry I have taken so long to reply but things are busy. Billy you are correct that I will be taking all of this out and installing new equipment. I kinda figured that it was pretty old. The basement is a fire hazard and to boot its a beauty salon business. I will be removing all of the landscaping equipment and running a new receptacle outside for the new transformer. I guess I will keep the old stuff for demos.
Here is a shot of the outside of the building. I find these types of houses challanging to design because of the over growth of the planting material around the house. I really wanted to light the house up as it is a very old historical building in Brantford. Any wise suggestions from you guys would be much appreciated.
Thanks for all of your help.

Ken

Pro-Scapes
08-17-2009, 11:04 PM
This house reminds me of a home that used to be on the unique catalog cover. The guy used stellars if I am not mistaken to shoot some light up under thoes soffits. Coppermoon has a similar fixture now called the 895. Im sure Joey has a picture. It had some ornate woodwork like this too if I recall right.

I would think downlighting would be in your future on alot of this. Downlight from the peaks with a probe OSM and a stellar or 895 under the eaves shining upwards ?? Get some light in where you can between the bushes and maybe do some pruning. Also I see gutters above the front porch ? Another idea there. You can barley see that sign. Consider relandscaping that area to make the sign stand out. After all it is a place of business and it should be easy to identify.

Lite4
08-18-2009, 06:57 AM
I would still uplight that home. Use some risers to get just above the plant material. I would also downlight from the eaves, but use a recessed MR16 can light. It looks much cleaner than putting a bullet light up hanging from an eave. I would maybe even consider using some Junior linears from iLight to back light the ornate decor on the roof lines. You can do a lot of things with this structure, it all comes down to budget though.....as always.

JoeyD
08-18-2009, 11:07 AM
This house reminds me of a home that used to be on the unique catalog cover. The guy used stellars if I am not mistaken to shoot some light up under thoes soffits. Coppermoon has a similar fixture now called the 895. Im sure Joey has a picture. It had some ornate woodwork like this too if I recall right.

I would think downlighting would be in your future on alot of this. Downlight from the peaks with a probe OSM and a stellar or 895 under the eaves shining upwards ?? Get some light in where you can between the bushes and maybe do some pruning. Also I see gutters above the front porch ? Another idea there. You can barley see that sign. Consider relandscaping that area to make the sign stand out. After all it is a place of business and it should be easy to identify.

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb97/ulsjoeyd/lighting/HughesJobwithUniquelogo.jpg

JoeyD
08-18-2009, 11:37 AM
bigger photo

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb97/ulsjoeyd/lighting/Commercialphotos004.jpg

Pro-Scapes
08-18-2009, 12:51 PM
yup thats the one i was thinking of. The ornamental trim looks nice. Wasnt it ryan Hughes at twighlight that did it ?

JoeyD
08-18-2009, 01:03 PM
yes it was...Ryan Hughes, Twilights by Design in Illinois!

emby
08-18-2009, 06:23 PM
Hey guys thanks!! I was originally thinking of mounting two bullets right to the brick work on the lower left and right side shooting up on an angle. Then taking another bullet on the eave of the porch to highlight that window. I like the idea of some risers to have something to conceal the wire for the bullets. I love the dramatic look of a bullet on a house rather than an area/flood light.
Once seeing the picture from Joey, its going to be a hard decision as that really looks nice highlighting the wood work.
I am going to set a demo up next week so I will post some pics for everybody to take a look at. Once again thanks for all your suggestions.

Ken