can i run all two cycle's on 32:1

[Bill Davis]

I have shidaiwa trimmers and Sthil Blowers and one new two cycle snapper puch mower. I noticed after mixing all my 2 cycle gas at 32:1 that i have no top end power in my blowers or trimmers. there was even a little oil spitting out the exhaust on my trimmers. Should i just make different cans for all my equipment. This will just be a big hassle so that is why I am trying to stay away from it. Have a good one, Bill D.

[sdwally]

With a good synthetic you are suppose to be able to run at 50:1, however I run all our equipment a 40:1 with ProGuard. 32:1 is probably why you have no power and a spitting problem. I would also suggest checking your exhaust ports for carbon build up, this will occur when running to much oil mix and will effect power and top end speed.

[65hoss]

According to both my Redmax and Stihl books it says 50:1 mixture.

32:1 could be damaging you motors due to lack of lubrication. It would also make it have a lack of power.

[Bill Davis]

The reason that i did this in the first place was because my mechanic said it would simlify things and wouldn't hurt anything. I guess ill switch back and see if it solves anything. Thanks for the quick responses. have a good one, bill

[Robert O'Hern]

Wouldn't 32:1 provide more lubrication than 50:1, therefore not being a problem of lack of lubrication. Also, is the mixture ratio a product of the oil itself or the equipment you are using? In other words echo oil is mixed 50:1 where ryobi is 32:1 and therefore, either is acceptable in your equipment.

[f350]

what does the manual say?????? 32:1 is a fatter mix than 50:1

[jdjoe_97]

Hey guys I use a product called No Smoke 2 cycle oil. It mixes with either a 1gal. dose or 2.5 gal dose and it works with all two cycle engines. I have ran it in 4 weedeaters, lawnboys (6.5 hp Duraforce) and chainsaws and no problems six years and going strong. I love it. Takes all the guess out of it. Joe

[darryl gesner]

Just use pro mix or another multi-ratio oil. You can run 32:1, 40:1 and 50:1 all out of the same can.

[TLS]

I run AMSOIL 80:1 this year, and previously ran ECHO 50:1. I use(d) both in the Lawnboys that call for 32:1 no problems, less smoke and more power. Want an oily mix, my old Poulan Chainsaw calls for 16:1......Guess what it gets!

;)

[siclmn]

I am still running an old echo trimmer that was supposed to use 32 to 1 and all these years I have used 50 to 1. It is 15 years old.

[pyrocare]

I just use Opti-2 oil mix. One pouch to one gallon for all of your mixes, one can for everything. Opti-2 seems to be a pretty good product, give it a try.

[Premo Services]

Originally posted by TLS
I run AMSOIL 80:1 this year, and previously ran ECHO 50:1. I use(d) both in the Lawnboys that call for 32:1 no problems, less smoke and more power. Want an oily mix, my old Poulan Chainsaw calls for 16:1......Guess what it gets!

;)

I bet the poulan gets the amsoil mix and probabaly runs better.
I switched to amsoil and have been enjoying more power in all 2 cycle equiptmet. I hd a echo hand held that a customer gave to me it didn't run. I cleaned the plug and put in amsoil mix, runs like a dream...:D

[Richard Martin]

32:1 has more oil in it than 50:1. The reason your engine lacks top end power is because you are reducing the amount of gasoline (highly combustable) and replacing it with oil (not nearly so combustable). This in effect leans the engine out making it run hotter and reducing engine rpm's. You would have to increase the size of the high speed jet to get it to run correctly.

These engines are extremely sensitive to air/fuel mixtures especially on the lean side. On engines with adjustable jets (air mixtures screws) you probably have noticed that when you get the engine just right and then turn the screw in as little as 1/8 of a turn it makes a big difference in the way the engine runs. If you look at the size of the threads on the screw you will see that turning the screw 1/8 of a turn actually only moves the screw in a tiny little bit. You can though turn the screw out farther and not get as big a change in operating characteristics.

[65hoss]

Originally posted by 65hoss
According to both my Redmax and Stihl books it says 50:1 mixture.

32:1 could be damaging you motors due to lack of lubrication. It would also make it have a lack of power.


My mistake, 32:1 is to much lubrication and not enough gas. Don't know what I was thinking. Basically as Richard said, its starving for fuel due to all the oil.

[Runner]

I've ran 32:1 in all my equipment for twenty years, and never had any problem. Yes, it runs a little rich, but always runs good, and never gets too hot.

[TheBeast]

Everybody does there own thing when it comes to making there 2 cycle mixes,, but i have a question, i have an ECHO back pack blower and run that on 32:1, is that good or should i change the mix? Also i run my Green Machine weed wacker on 50:1 is that good? What if i made one mix of 40:1, would that be best to run both from?

I am not the best at these ratios and mixing, so any help would be appreciated. Thanks
The Beast

[weve]

I'm also using Amsoil mixed at 80:1 this year in my Echo, Shindaiwa, and Stihl equipment after using Echo 50: 1 for many years. No problem so far.

Larry

[Bill Davis]

Thanks for all the help. I took the exhaust restictors out and that made all the difference in the word. I think i will just make a can of 32:1 for the mower and Shin's because i looked today and the T270 calls for 25:1 mix. I was surprised. Then i will make some more cans for the sthil blowers. have a good one.Bill.

p.s. I just got another 36" Gravely with wheels and it is great. It has much more power than my identical two other gravelys'. Thanks again.

[lakeviewnw]

The reason that owners manuals differ on their suggested mix ratios, boils down to one thing !

Most equipment mfgr's also offer their own brand of 2-cycle mix. You have to remember, that THE OIL determines the mix ratio, not the machine !! All 2-cycle oils are designed to run at a specific mix ratio, so the mfgr's will recommend whatever mix ratio that their private branded oil is designed to run at.

Hope this helps answer your question.

[Likestomow]

I’ve been using Opti-2 synthetic 2-cycle oil for a couple of years now at the recommended rate of 100:1 with excellent results. I know some here like to hedge a bit and mix it a little richer, but I trust the technology. I believe that for it to be recommended for use at 100:1, it would most likely still work fine at a higher ratio, like maybe 125:1.

[Flex-Deck]

I run 40:1 in everything - seems fine

[Fivestar]

Promix. You can or let me say should be able to get it at LOWES.
This oil is bad to the bone. You can run just about any ratio 16to1 all the way up to 100to1 from the same can. They make small bottles that make one gallon and a bigger bottle that mixes or makes 5 gallons. Like I said before LOWES should have it. Works really well in all are REDMAX 2 strokers. Hope this helps.

Fivestar