Bobcat S630 Pics

[Boss Exc.]

So I went to the Sandwitch fair this year again,as I go every year.It's held in Sandwitch,IL and they have some pretty cool things there as far as construction equiptment goes.Cat,Deere,Bobcat and some Case farm tractors were there again this year.Well I decided to wander over to Bobcat's display too see if they had any M-series skidsteers or E-series mini's....No excavators but they did have this....

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Sorry no inside picks as the cab was locked.

I had to take a pic of this truck...It made me laugh.

Got stacks?

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[mrsops]

I didnt get to run one yet my dealer didnt get one. But i got to run the e32 and the e80 which were very nice machines..

[YellowDogSVC]

i'm glad they finally put the fuel fill in the rear. My machines always have dirt on the inside of the fuel cap no matter how tight I make them. Ditto for the hydro fill. With so much air blowing past them on the earlier series, it's no wonder.

[WillieWonka1850]

Ooh I like the looks of the S630 best looking Bobcat IMO.
Those stacks on the Dodge are pretty cool. You should here the Cummins Diesel roar with those things!

[mrsops]

i'm glad they finally put the fuel fill in the rear. My machines always have dirt on the inside of the fuel cap no matter how tight I make them. Ditto for the hydro fill. With so much air blowing past them on the earlier series, it's no wonder.

They moved the battery out a bit which is good

[Junior M]

i'm glad they finally put the fuel fill in the rear. My machines always have dirt on the inside of the fuel cap no matter how tight I make them. Ditto for the hydro fill. With so much air blowing past them on the earlier series, it's no wonder.
Dont forget how hard it is to get a diesel can in there when its full without spilling it all over the place.. :wall


And what machine does the 630 compare to?

[WillieWonka1850]

Dont forget how hard it is to get a diesel can in there when its full without spilling it all over the place.. :wall


And what machine does the 630 compare to?
I think its made to compete with the CAT 246C.
Very close in size and ROC:

Horsepower: Bobcat- 74.3hp, CAT- 73hp.
ROC: Bobcat- 2180lbs, CAT - 2150lbs.
Weight: Bobcat- 7707lbs, CAT- 7480lbs
GPM: Bobcat- 23gpm, CAT- 22gpm.

Similar huh?

[YellowDogSVC]

One thing I don't understand is the weight issue vs. hp. By the time you add a/c, brush clearing packages, hd tires, etc., these machines will top 8,000 lbs yet only have 74 hp? I'm curious to run one and see how well that hp is used.

[Digdeep]

One thing I don't understand is the weight issue vs. hp. By the time you add a/c, brush clearing packages, hd tires, etc., these machines will top 8,000 lbs yet only have 74 hp? I'm curious to run one and see how well that hp is used.

It looks like my S220 which I think is one of their best machines.

The step up into the cab looks like its high and I don't know about the glass on the outside, but it looks like the battery is easier to get at.

[bobcat_ron]

Too bad you didn't grab a pic of the radiators, and how high up they are, you would see what I mean by using a step up to clean them with out getting your beer gut toasted.

The S630 is like the old 843, but beefed up, check out the rear loader pins and arms, BIG BIG BIG!

[mrsops]

Too bad you didn't grab a pic of the radiators, and how high up they are, you would see what I mean by using a step up to clean them with out getting your beer gut toasted.

The S630 is like the old 843, but beefed up, check out the rear loader pins and arms, BIG BIG BIG!

Ron you did mention in one of your posts how quiet the machine was how do you compare it against your cat?

[bobcat_ron]

Ron you did mention in one of your posts how quiet the machine was how do you compare it against your cat?

Yes I did mention that, it's about the same as my Cat 247B2, but I had no load on it, meaning no bucket and no material moving.
You will have to step up on the rear frame to clean the rads.

[Boss Exc.]

It looks like my S220 which I think is one of their best machines.

The step up into the cab looks like its high and I don't know about the glass on the outside, but it looks like the battery is easier to get at.

In person the step isn't big at all.It does look big in the pic.And the battery will be WAYYYY easier to change.

[mrsops]

Yes I did mention that, it's about the same as my Cat 247B2, but I had no load on it, meaning no bucket and no material moving.
You will have to step up on the rear frame to clean the rads.

Ron how did you like the visibility?

[Boss Exc.]

Too bad you didn't grab a pic of the radiators, and how high up they are, you would see what I mean by using a step up to clean them with out getting your beer gut toasted.

The S630 is like the old 843, but beefed up, check out the rear loader pins and arms, BIG BIG BIG!

Yea Ron I would have liked to get some pics of the finer details but those are all I got....The girlfriend was standing behind me not so excited about the new Bobcat.Needless too say I had to go!:laugh:

[bobcat_ron]

Ron how did you like the visibility?

Not too bad, Bobcat can't hold a tune compared to the Cat C Series though.

[mrsops]

Not too bad, Bobcat can't hold a tune compared to the Cat C Series though.

hmmmm i dont know about that cat has the worse rear visiblity out of any machine on the market..

[bobcat_ron]

hmmmm i dont know about that cat has the worse rear visiblity out of any machine on the market..

Don't hold your breath on the Bobcat's rear visibilty then, measure the Cat's rear from the window to the end of the machine and then measure Bobcat's, the S630 has waaaay more rear end on it, lowered rear window really doesn't make much more difference.

[ksss]

Don't hold your breath on the Bobcat's rear visibilty then, measure the Cat's rear from the window to the end of the machine and then measure Bobcat's, the S630 has waaaay more rear end on it, lowered rear window really doesn't make much more difference.


With Bobcats "cab-forward" design, there is no doubt that rear visiblity has to suffer. The further you put the operator to the front, the harder it will be to see to the rear, it only makes sense.

[mrsops]

With Bobcats "cab-forward" design, there is no doubt that rear visiblity has to suffer. The further you put the operator to the front, the harder it will be to see to the rear, it only makes sense.

We shall see.. My dealer should be getting one in the next few weeks :usflag:

[BIGBEN2004]

Leave it to Deere to find out the real truth about rear visibility on their next years SmackDown. Then you will see that Cat and Bobcat and all the others don't have nothin on Deere.:laugh:

[bobcat_ron]

Leave it to Deere to find out the real truth about rear visibility on their next years SmackDown. Then you will see that Cat and Bobcat and all the others don't have nothin on Deere.:laugh:

Rookies and noobs use the rear windows religiously.

Real professional operators use the side views over the rear tires to truly see where they are and how close their tires/tracks are to a delicate brick wall.

[mrsops]

Rookies and noobs use the rear windows religiously.

Real professional operators use the side views over the rear tires to truly see where they are and how close their tires/tracks are to a delicate brick wall.

O then deere wins again :laugh::laugh:

[ksss]

Rookies and noobs use the rear windows religiously.

Real professional operators use the side views over the rear tires to truly see where they are and how close their tires/tracks are to a delicate brick wall.

The key word being "religiously". Depending on what your trying to avoid your generally right. However the visibility over the cowling is also pretty important. I find that being able to to see where the tires hit the ground very important as well. Especially when trying to avoid sprinkler heads while rock raking.

That is what is irritating about the VTS on my 440. The width makes that much more difficult than it used to be.

[mrsops]

The key word being "religiously". Depending on what your trying to avoid your generally right. However the visibility over the cowling is also pretty important. I find that being able to to see where the tires hit the ground very important as well. Especially when trying to avoid sprinkler heads while rock raking.

That is what is irritating about the VTS on my 440. The width makes that much more difficult than it used to be.

I cant agree with you more on the rock raking around the sprinkler heads. Ksss hows the vts holding up?

[ksss]

I cant agree with you more on the rock raking around the sprinkler heads. Ksss hows the vts holding up?

So far so good. It has certainly been a job saver at times. I have missed having a sub 73" inch machine, which is what the 440 (66") was prior to the VTS. The tracks are developing cracks which I guess is why they have switched track OEM's. This system had the old tracks when I bought it. I will say that without 2 speed I would not be happy. They say you lose 1 mph but it sure feels like more than that.

[mrsops]

So far so good. It has certainly been a job saver at times. I have missed having a sub 73" inch machine, which is what the 440 (66") was prior to the VTS. The tracks are developing cracks which I guess is why they have switched track OEM's. This system had the old tracks when I bought it. I will say that without 2 speed I would not be happy. They say you lose 1 mph but it sure feels like more than that.

Ksss what about the mclaren nu air tires? Im thinking on getting a set how is the ride of the machine? Do they give a hard ride or do they give the ride of an air tire?

[ksss]

Ksss what about the mclaren nu air tires? Im thinking on getting a set how is the ride of the machine? Do they give a hard ride or do they give the ride of an air tire?


The ride is about the same. It is hard to tell the difference. However the 465 is heavy, don't know if it would be the same if you put those tires on a lighter machine.

I noticed immediately that in some ground conditions mostly sandy seems to be the worst that the tire does not grip like a typical tire. The machine will hop. The tire is a little more narrow that a typical tire. The tire does not flex at the point of contact with the ground which I think is why it will hop in some conditions. The weight of the 465 combined with the narrow tire makes it tough in wet conditions.

The tire has about 2 inches of tread, incredible traction but man it will do a number on the ground when turning.

After I got done with that demo I posted I had nails sticking out of the tire almost like the Nu Air ad shows. Not having to sweat flats makes up for some of the downsides of the tire.

Overall I think they are a good investment. I am counting on the 3 times the wear rate of a typical tire.

[mrsops]

The ride is about the same. It is hard to tell the difference. However the 465 is heavy, don't know if it would be the same if you put those tires on a lighter machine.

I noticed immediately that in some ground conditions mostly sandy seems to be the worst that the tire does not grip like a typical tire. The machine will hop. The tire is a little more narrow that a typical tire. The tire does not flex at the point of contact with the ground which I think is why it will hop in some conditions. The weight of the 465 combined with the narrow tire makes it tough in wet conditions.

The tire has about 2 inches of tread, incredible traction but man it will do a number on the ground when turning.

After I got done with that demo I posted I had nails sticking out of the tire almost like the Nu Air ad shows. Not having to sweat flats makes up for some of the downsides of the tire.

Overall I think they are a good investment. I am counting on the 3 times the wear rate of a typical tire.

Im thinking about putting them on my s205. What did they run you?

[ksss]

Im thinking about putting them on my s205. What did they run you?

I think it was 2700 delievered. Does that machine use 10 or 12 16.5's?

[mrsops]

I think it was 2700 delievered. Does that machine use 10 or 12 16.5's?

Thats funny my g series 205 has 10's on it and my k series has the 12's.

[ksss]

Thats funny my g series 205 has 10's on it and my k series has the 12's.

I would go with the 12's. Those tires are dam heavy, you will probably notice an increase in your ROC.

[mrsops]

I would go with the 12's. Those tires are dam heavy, you will probably notice an increase in your ROC.

Yeah i hear ya. Problem is I'm in the dirt a lot doing constant grading i don't want to be bogging down with these tires

[Tigerotor77W]

Neither. It uses like 13x15.5s or something obscene like that.

But I would imagine it could handle the S185's tires, which are 10s, no?

[Construct'O]

Rookies and noobs use the rear windows religiously.

Real professional operators use the side views over the rear tires to truly see where they are and how close their tires/tracks are to a delicate brick wall.

So where does that put you Ron?Pro or Rooky:laugh:

If i remember right you have a big ding in your rear door:hammerhead:

So was you looking at the tires instead of out over your shoulder through the rear window:confused:

By the way Ron i consider you a Pro ,but sh!t does happen :cry::usflag:

[bobcat_ron]

So where does that put you Ron?Pro or Rooky:laugh:

If i remember right you have a big ding in your rear door:hammerhead:

So was you looking at the tires instead of out over your shoulder through the rear window:confused:

By the way Ron i consider you a Pro ,but sh!t does happen :cry::usflag:


I was looking straight ahead while in full reverse, damn farm girls. :laugh:

[Mr. Rain]

Real professional operators use the side views over the rear tires to truly see where they are and how close their tires/tracks are to a delicate brick wall.

Or people running machines with no rear visibility to start with....

[Junior M]

Rookies and noobs use the rear windows religiously.

Real professional operators use the side views over the rear tires to truly see where they are and how close their tires/tracks are to a delicate brick wall.
When working in the woods ya gotta use the back window when working around trees, but for the most part I just glance back to make sure there isnt a tree behind me, a few tail lights have suffered from not looking back because I am glancing over the rear of the track..

[alco]

Too bad you didn't grab a pic of the radiators, and how high up they are, you would see what I mean by using a step up to clean them with out getting your beer gut toasted.

The S630 is like the old 843, but beefed up, check out the rear loader pins and arms, BIG BIG BIG!

I dunno Ron, I climbed around an S630 today and I can almost reach the top of the rad without any step stool or something like it. My reach is within 6 inches of the very top of the rad, and I'm only 5'8". You'd have to have a pretty big beer gut to have it stick in past the shroud across the top of the muffler at the very back. I never touched up against the machine at all, and I probably could have reached right to the top if I had wanted to get closer, but it was just washed, and I didn't feel much like getting wet.

[mrsops]

I dunno Ron, I climbed around an S630 today and I can almost reach the top of the rad without any step stool or something like it. My reach is within 6 inches of the very top of the rad, and I'm only 5'8". You'd have to have a pretty big beer gut to have it stick in past the shroud across the top of the muffler at the very back. I never touched up against the machine at all, and I probably could have reached right to the top if I had wanted to get closer, but it was just washed, and I didn't feel much like getting wet.

How did you like the machine?

[bobcat_ron]

I dunno Ron, I climbed around an S630 today and I can almost reach the top of the rad without any step stool or something like it. My reach is within 6 inches of the very top of the rad, and I'm only 5'8". You'd have to have a pretty big beer gut to have it stick in past the shroud across the top of the muffler at the very back. I never touched up against the machine at all, and I probably could have reached right to the top if I had wanted to get closer, but it was just washed, and I didn't feel much like getting wet.

You just typed my point right there, even a Cat 272C/297C/299C's radiators are easy to reach, same with Case, Deere (they still suck) New Holland and Takeuchi.

[alco]

How did you like the machine?

I really liked it, all in all, it seemed like a nicely setup machine. I was kind of pressed for time, otherwise I would have tried it out to see how it felt.

Ron, you kind of missed my point. You claim you wouldn't be able to clean the rads without toasting your beer gut. I'm simply pointing out that I would have no problem doing it, and I'm a little guy. If I got up close and stretched a bit, I'm sure I could reach just fine.

[Stick Pro]

Our bobcat dealer just got a 630 in two days ago. I was down there yesterday, and they let me give it a test drive. It has the joy stick controls, they are very smooth a big inmrovement, the visiblity is not as bad as it would seem out the back but still not great, good visiblity out the front. It is not much quieter than the curent models. There were some things i was not impressed with, i could not get the joy sticks to adjust back and forth, i even told my salesman to get in it and move them, no luck. The speakers are not in a good spot this one did not have a cab but were the speakers are suposed to go the covers are already falling off. I need to take it out on a job before i make up my mind if i like it or not.

[Ozz]

Is it just me or does the T630 scream ASV, there seem to be a lot in the back, look at the boom, looks like ASV. Of course, I don't hold a candle to any of your guys experiance but the S630 looks a lot like ASV w/ tires to me.

[T_S_S]

so are they equiped with doosan motors now

[Digdeep]

so are they equiped with doosan motors now

Still Kubota. For now.

[Junior M]

Still Kubota. For now.
When are they suppose to unveil the Kubota?

[SiteSolutions]

When working in the woods ya gotta use the back window when working around trees, but for the most part I just glance back to make sure there isnt a tree behind me, a few tail lights have suffered from not looking back because I am glancing over the rear of the track..

I made this error in judgement clearing in my first machine. Failed to look back and appreciate my surroundings in a wooded area. Big branch (3") came through the back window and smacked me in the head while showering me in little bitty glass cubes. Very much un fun. Sometimes slowing down a little can make work go much faster.

[Junior M]

I made this error in judgement clearing in my first machine. Failed to look back and appreciate my surroundings in a wooded area. Big branch (3") came through the back window and smacked me in the head while showering me in little bitty glass cubes. Very much un fun. Sometimes slowing down a little can make work go much faster.
Never had that happen, but hauled ass fast as I could into a tree, that'll stop you real quick, and scare the piss out of you all at the sametime.. :laugh:

[Skidsteerman]

You just typed my point right there, even a Cat 272C/297C/299C's radiators are easy to reach, same with Case, Deere (they still suck) New Holland and Takeuchi.

Why does the Deere suck? Coolers seperate when you open the door and are real easy to clean. This sucks how, because you say so?

[SellingIron]

Just got the S630 in. Easy to get to the coolers and I didn't touch the engine with my belly. I like the throttle placement and how clean it looks. No cable hanging out that gives it an unfinished look like cats c-series (246C)..AC was cold and all six vents pointing right on my head..Great views all the way around which being 6'4" helps...I still hear noise in the cab somewhat but with all the new upgrades in the cab you soon pay no mind to it....

[Digdeep]

Does the A/C condensor hinge too? Are those bent condesor fins already on the far left rear in picture two. At least the cooler/rad hinges apart, but some things never change (condensor) and they're still stacked :hammerhead:

[SellingIron]

The condesor is bolted down by the looks of it. I did notice the bent fins while I was puting the cover back on. Its not a filmsy plastic or fiberglass cover like some other brands. It does have some weight to it and can see why the fins would get bent if your not careful..Is having the coolers stack such a bad thing? Bobcat doesn't having any over heating issues with this design..

[Digdeep]

The condesor is bolted down by the looks of it. I did notice the bent fins while I was puting the cover back on. Its not a filmsy plastic or fiberglass cover like some other brands. It does have some weight to it and can see why the fins would get bent if your not careful..Is having the coolers stack such a bad thing? Bobcat doesn't having any over heating issues with this design..

I would say that having coolers side-by-side are better for cleanout compared to a "stacked" configuration. If it didn't need to be done that often why would we change the design so that it hinged up easier without having to remove the overflow bottle, the engine screen, the condensor (seperate and not bolted down), the cooler, etc.

I know that there will be a few who chime in saying that they've never experienced overheating and its probably true, but I would also say that I hear plenty of overheating complaints from longstanding, and new customers that use their machines up here to brush cut. Not as bad as others (JD was terrible- we'll see how much better it is now), but enough for me to question the cooler radiator configuration, a 4.7gallon hydraulic tank, and the use of the same lines out to the couplers for both low flow and high flow- I think they're 5/8OD. I don't know what size the new M series tank is, but I can see they made an effort to alow better preventive maintenance for rad/cooler cleanout.

[SellingIron]

Its fair to say that most brands on the market now ( JD,Cat,NH,Bobcat.etc.)are not designed to handle a high flow brush cutter for long term use. If customers want to be in that business, they would need to add extra oil coolers and other mods to prevent the over heating issue. They could just buy a Super track for $140,000...

[Digdeep]

Its fair to say that most brands on the market now ( JD,Cat,NH,Bobcat.etc.)are not designed to handle a high flow brush cutter for long term use. If customers want to be in that business, they would need to add extra oil coolers and other mods to prevent the over heating issue. They could just buy a Super track for $140,000...

Cold Planers and stump grinders put just as much of a load on the high flow sytems. I've never heard anyone complain to me about overheating with a stump grinder, but I most certainly have with cold planers. There are three issues here: 1. It is a combination of not only the load, but also debris in the coolers (stacked by any OEM has an impact over side by side), and 2. customers don't want to and won't buy a super trak for $140k 3. Why do all OEMs sell both rotary and mulching heads (some sell forestry guarding kits) then?

I'm not saying that they are the perfect tool (skids) for brush cutting, but the skid is the perfect "Swiss Army Knife" and it will remain that way. I remember all the problems we had with hammers when they first started using them on skids, but the machines were adapted by the OEMs instead of telling customers that you could not use them.

[YellowDogSVC]

The condesor is bolted down by the looks of it. I did notice the bent fins while I was puting the cover back on. Its not a filmsy plastic or fiberglass cover like some other brands. It does have some weight to it and can see why the fins would get bent if your not careful..Is having the coolers stack such a bad thing? Bobcat doesn't having any over heating issues with this design..

from what I've read pulling air is more efficient anyway so it should make up for stacked fans. I don't have an issue when grinding with an s330 and stacked coolers other than PITA to clean radiator when time comes. If I can't keep the radiators clean, though, I run up to red. It's frustrating and time consuming to clean them out. I heard there may be an upgrade kit for K series machines to make a lift up radiator but haven't seen it.

Cold Planers and stump grinders put just as much of a load on the high flow sytems. I've never heard anyone complain to me about overheating with a stump grinder, but I most certainly have with cold planers. There are three issues here: 1. It is a combination of not only the load, but also debris in the coolers (stacked by any OEM has an impact over side by side), and 2. customers don't want to and won't buy a super trak for $140k 3. Why do all OEMs sell both rotary and mulching heads (some sell forestry guarding kits) then?


My Bobcat 37 gpm stump grinder generates the most heat of anything I have used. Granted, I'm grinding very large stumps but I can't keep it out of the red line unless I baby it.

[YellowDogSVC]

The condesor is bolted down by the looks of it. I did notice the bent fins while I was puting the cover back on. Its not a filmsy plastic or fiberglass cover like some other brands. It does have some weight to it and can see why the fins would get bent if your not careful..Is having the coolers stack such a bad thing? Bobcat doesn't having any over heating issues with this design..

ooops, I didn't elaborate enough in the time alloted!

from what I've read pulling air is more efficient anyway so it should make up for stacked fans. I don't have an issue when grinding with an s330 and stacked coolers other than PITA to clean radiator when time comes. If I can't keep the radiators clean, though, I run up to red. It's frustrating and time consuming to clean them out. I heard there may be an upgrade kit for K series machines to make a lift up radiator but haven't seen it.

Cold Planers and stump grinders put just as much of a load on the high flow sytems. I've never heard anyone complain to me about overheating with a stump grinder, but I most certainly have with cold planers. There are three issues here: 1. It is a combination of not only the load, but also debris in the coolers (stacked by any OEM has an impact over side by side), and 2. customers don't want to and won't buy a super trak for $140k 3. Why do all OEMs sell both rotary and mulching heads (some sell forestry guarding kits) then?


My Bobcat 37 gpm stump grinder generates the most heat of anything I have used. Granted, I'm grinding very large stumps but I can't keep it out of the red line unless I baby it.

I can say this. I love my s330 BUT and this is a BIG BUT, if the larger frame size machines have at least 90 hp and can be adapted with a decent lexan door with wiper, have a weight of less than 9500lbs with HD tires, and at least 37 gpm at 3300 psi or more, then I will swap out machines machines to take advantage of the easier maintenance.

I'm actually excited about the Bobcat M series as I think it will fit nicely with my line of work (part time brush mulching and part time tree shearing and stump grinding). I'm already fairly comfortable in a K series cab but often sweat. I was encouraged that a 6'4 operator is comfortable and cool to boot. That is all I have ever asked for. Cool environment and easy maintenance. I thought I was getting that in the Cat C series but I couldn't keep the dust out of the cab. I am hoping Bobcat solved that issue once and for all. for now, I'll just dream of being totally comfortable for 8 hours in the woods. Right now, I just settle for an occasional washing out of the cab, clean air filters, and a cloudy day to cut some of the sun. XM radio helps.. :)


Bobcat Corporate, if you are reading, I have reinvested everything I have into your company and then some! Keep me comfortable in a skid steer machine, keep it cool, and easy to maintain and I will be good press for your sales team!! :usflag::clapping:

[DeereMan85]

I can say this. I love my s330 BUT and this is a BIG BUT, if the larger frame size machines have at least 90 hp and can be adapted with a decent lexan door with wiper, have a weight of less than 9500lbs with HD tires, and at least 37 gpm at 3300 psi or more, then I will swap out machines machines to take advantage of the easier maintenance.

Deere 332D
91 hp
available lexan door and forestry prep package
8560 lbs.
38 gpm @ 3450 psi
V-Plenum cooling system w/reversing fan drive

Should I get one coming for you? :)

[Digdeep]

Deere 332D
91 hp
available lexan door and forestry prep package
8560 lbs.
38 gpm @ 3450 psi
V-Plenum cooling system w/reversing fan drive

Should I get one coming for you? :)

I'm curious to see how good the hydraulic cooling is. Bradco/Magnum engineered an aux cooler on their mulching head specifically because the Deere cooling was horrendous. Did they enlarge the hyd tank?

[ksss]

I'm curious to see how good the hydraulic cooling is. Bradco/Magnum engineered an aux cooler on their mulching head specifically because the Deere cooling was horrendous. Did they enlarge the hyd tank?



I was able to look at some data from Loftness and the 332 Deere almost instantly overheated the hyd fluid when running their mulcher. It did not elaborate what they thought the issue was exactly. I find it hard to believe that little cooler on a mulcher can accomlish much except increase you flow restriction.

[DeereMan85]

I think the new cooling system will be a lot better. Much greater surface area combined with much greater airflow should make a world of difference. I also think it looks like it should take longer for any debris or dust to build up, especially with the reversing fan (by the way, it has a setting to automatically cycle so you don't forget to blow it out). If it works as well as it looks like it should, I think you forestry guys will really like it.

[bobcat_ron]

MY T190 was horrible with over heating, 3 minutes of jack hammer work and the lines were steaming on a wet day, the Cat was really cool, it takes 30+ minutes to get the oil hot enough to get the lines to steam on a wet day.

Explain that.

[SellingIron]

Ron, I think you have had every problem know to man with your old T190..I hope you don't have to many friends up there...

[Digdeep]

I think the new cooling system will be a lot better. Much greater surface area combined with much greater airflow should make a world of difference. I also think it looks like it should take longer for any debris or dust to build up, especially with the reversing fan (by the way, it has a setting to automatically cycle so you don't forget to blow it out). If it works as well as it looks like it should, I think you forestry guys will really like it.

I think you'll like the reversing fan. I know the guys I've talked to running the ASV PT100 have been liking it for over a year already. :)

I really am interested to operate one. As I said earlier....I like it when new machines come out regardless of the OEM.

[YellowDogSVC]

Deere 332D
91 hp
available lexan door and forestry prep package
8560 lbs.
38 gpm @ 3450 psi
V-Plenum cooling system w/reversing fan drive

Should I get one coming for you? :)

I was treated like a 2nd class citizen by local Deere salesman when I tried to demo a cutter head. CAT treated me good and I bought a head from them within a couple of weeks after a long demo! Even though I had been a customer at the Deere dealer (with my crawler loader) they wanted a credit report etc, to demo a cutter head to me (with them doing the demo!).

I like the Deere specs..but my Bobcat dealer's service is top notch. That's hard to trade after my experiences last summer.

[YellowDogSVC]

I was able to look at some data from Loftness and the 332 Deere almost instantly overheated the hyd fluid when running their mulcher. It did not elaborate what they thought the issue was exactly. I find it hard to believe that little cooler on a mulcher can accomlish much except increase you flow restriction.

that's what I was thinking. It is all in the debris..the fine stuff that clogs the radiators on the machines that mulch.

[YellowDogSVC]

I think the new cooling system will be a lot better. Much greater surface area combined with much greater airflow should make a world of difference. I also think it looks like it should take longer for any debris or dust to build up, especially with the reversing fan (by the way, it has a setting to automatically cycle so you don't forget to blow it out). If it works as well as it looks like it should, I think you forestry guys will really like it.

keep me posted. I'm not discounting anything. If Bobcat's M series large frame machines don't make me happy, I'm back to the drawing board when my s330 gets old. I just turned 800 hours on it for just over a year's operating time and that will add up quickly as business picks back up. That's rough hours on a machine that mulches part-time.

What I really want to see is reliable mulcher head with it's own motor and wireless remote to stop and start mower. I know FAE had one awhile a go but it looked a little bulky though the concept is what I'm interested in.
You smart guys want to chime in on why an electric powered mulcher wouldn't work? could a machine's electrical system recharge batteries or power a system that recharges batteries? A little extra room and some BIG batteries might fit.