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dbshelton
09-12-2009, 08:20 PM
Is there a good place to buy a reasonably priced Muffler for my Dixie Chopper with Kohler Command CV25? $150 sounds a bit steep!

pugs
09-12-2009, 09:35 PM
Is the muffler an actual Kohler muffler or is it made by the manufacturer of the machine? Most ZTR's have custom mufflers that the engine manufacturer does not provide so you are kinda at their mercy.

And honestly 150 sounds about right for a muffler from Kohler for a V-twin.

old oak lawn
09-12-2009, 09:59 PM
I ordered one for mine -25hp kohler command - Friday from my toro dealer, should be in Monday. Had to have the spec number of engine to order it, cost was $195.00. Mine is broken inside and loud as hell. Only two years old, came on a replacement engine.What can you do? have to have it.

Runner
09-12-2009, 10:16 PM
115 bucks through JThomas. They'll have it on your doorstep in 2 days.

dbshelton
09-13-2009, 08:58 AM
Thanks guys. Who is JThomas?

dbshelton
09-13-2009, 12:18 PM
Thanks. I went ahead and cut my muffler in half, gutted it, welded it back together, and gave it a fresh coat of high-heat black paint. Looks new, I'll just wear ear plugs until I can afford a replacement.

4.3mudder
09-13-2009, 12:29 PM
Ebay would be the cheapest of them all.

East Coast Lawn Choppers
09-13-2009, 12:35 PM
Thanks. I went ahead and cut my muffler in half, gutted it, welded it back together, and gave it a fresh coat of high-heat black paint. Looks new, I'll just wear ear plugs until I can afford a replacement.

Shame you didn't mention you were going to do that...
We had a customer that didn't want to buy a new muffler. So we cut the end off removed all the broken and rusted out material. Welded it back together. Then took a piece of pipe the same diameter as the outlet. Made it long enough to go almost to the end of the housing. Welded the inside end shut and then gave it to one of my kids to have fun. Had him drill a few hundred 1/8" holes in it and then welded it into where the original outlet came out of. It was almost the same as a briggs and stratton muffler. It sounded so good he said he's gonna run it until it goes again. It didn't rob any power because we had soooo many holes in it. Worth a shot if you like playing like my kids did...

GravelyNut
09-13-2009, 03:13 PM
Thanks guys. Who is JThomas?

j-thomas.com is a parts company online.

Runner
09-13-2009, 11:30 PM
google is our friend.

ingram33
09-14-2009, 12:42 AM
i took mine to a welder and he fixed it

topsites
09-14-2009, 01:13 AM
When my Cv-15t's started to leak and I found out the price, I figured
THIS must be the reason WHY so many Lco's run leaking mufflers...

I eventually welded mine also.

Oddly enough, on a very old 20hp Kohler of mine?
It's got those universal mufflers (what some call the B&S style), two of them, one each cylinder, $10 each...

madisonpressurewashing
09-14-2009, 11:28 AM
Would these work? And has anyone tried them? http://www.jackssmallengines.com/strapmain.cfm

GravelyNut
09-14-2009, 01:57 PM
When my Cv-15t's started to leak and I found out the price, I figured
THIS must be the reason WHY so many Lco's run leaking mufflers...

I eventually welded mine also.

Oddly enough, on a very old 20hp Kohler of mine?
It's got those universal mufflers (what some call the B&S style), two of them, one each cylinder, $10 each...
Many of the older engines ran two mufflers. Kohler and Onan both had mufflers made by Nelson on the twins that did a good job. An Onan B43M or B48M is nice sounding when they are used. Some just used the pepperpot mufflers and while better than nothing, just can't compare.

GravelyNut
09-14-2009, 01:58 PM
Would these work? And has anyone tried them? http://www.jackssmallengines.com/strapmain.cfm
They work on the singles.:)

jkilov
09-14-2009, 05:58 PM
Have yet to replace a muffler on any of my mowers. Small holes can be patched up with fiberglass/epoxy tape from your local auto parts store. Anything larger calls for welding that's difficult to get right without burning more holes through the thin steel.

$150 is steep, is it from magnaflow or what? Then again I was quoted $85 for my redmax BP muffler :dizzy:.

GravelyNut
09-14-2009, 06:39 PM
Have yet to replace a muffler on any of my mowers. Small holes can be patched up with fiberglass/epoxy tape from your local auto parts store. Anything larger calls for welding that's difficult to get right without burning more holes through the thin steel.

$150 is steep, is it from magnaflow or what? Then again I was quoted $85 for my redmax BP muffler :dizzy:.

$150 is cheap. Some Kohlers use mufflers that list for over $200, each.

Richard Martin
09-14-2009, 06:47 PM
$150 is cheap. Some Kohlers use mufflers that list for over $200, each.

I think I paid around $180 for mine. 28 EFI muffler. It had an O≤ sensor bung in it. My original muffler collapsed on the inside.

Runner
09-14-2009, 07:13 PM
That's what has happened to mine in the past. They come apart on the inside, and the baffle rattles around. You can take a steel rod (like rebar) and stick it inside and jam the baffle back to the back now and again to buy yourself more time when this happens. I ran one about a whole season like that before. Even for a fuel injected though,...180 sounds like a dealership price. I think they were around 140 through JThomas.

Richard Martin
09-14-2009, 07:54 PM
I think they were around 140 through JThomas.

I couldn't find my muffler there. Their "Super Index" is all screwed up. I must say that they have some really, really scary prices on engines though. I will never - ever pay $3300 for a 17 HP Kohler engine. Not even a K engine.

Or $3500 for a 25!

http://j-thomas.com/Catalog/180_kohler_horizontal_engines.html

Runner
09-14-2009, 09:03 PM
What the HECK! That's crazy, isn't it? It's funny....it's suited for the Exmark - the no. 1 seller, therefore the most common and highest demand. Other than rebuilding (very first choice), I think I'd certainly be shopping around for a motor (perhaps small engine warehouse or somewhere).

jkilov
09-15-2009, 05:02 PM
Or $3500 for a 25!
And that's WITHOUT the muffler :laugh::dizzy:.

But seriously, $200 for a rust bucket that can't hold up 2000 hrs. I would rather weld a small car muffler which is a proper absorption muffler on there.

nuconz
09-15-2009, 06:14 PM
I want to put a cherry bomb muffler on my Kohler 30 when its muffler goes out. Any ideas how to do this easily?

GravelyNut
09-15-2009, 06:49 PM
What the HECK! That's crazy, isn't it? It's funny....it's suited for the Exmark - the no. 1 seller, therefore the most common and highest demand. Other than rebuilding (very first choice), I think I'd certainly be shopping around for a motor (perhaps small engine warehouse or somewhere).
As SEW will sell you a 27 HP Kohler CH740-0045 for $2,180.00 , you're right.

Richard Martin
09-15-2009, 07:43 PM
I can get the darn things for under $600 brand new from surplus houses. What makes that engine so special.

dbshelton
09-16-2009, 09:37 AM
I can get the darn things for under $600 brand new from surplus houses. What makes that engine so special.

No kidding! I just bought a surplus 25hp kohler for $650, installed the top-mount throttle and choke hardware, the exhaust, and air cleaner assembly from the old engine, used a shaft spacer on the longer output shaft, also re-wired it to hook up with the old plug and it works just fine. All that took only about 3 hours.

nuconz
09-16-2009, 09:45 AM
I can get the darn things for under $600 brand new from surplus houses. What makes that engine so special.

where can you get it for this price?

dbshelton
09-16-2009, 10:11 AM
Look at surpluscenter.com

Richard Martin
09-16-2009, 04:16 PM
where can you get it for this price?

They're $650 at this place. The same place that I turned dbshelton on to.
https://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2009090802544716&item=28-1681&catname=engines

You have to look around to get the good deals. They're out there.