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cphillips0053
09-14-2009, 01:07 PM
I have the opportunity to bid on this 93 house development.
This will be the largest I've ever bid on and just want to get some opinions on it. This is not really a HOA. More like a public housing authority. All homes are right beside each other.

5 houses are yet to be complete. Estimated completion on these are before the 2010 season.

I just got wind of the bid so I didn't have time to measure every property but from what I did measure, they are all pretty much the same.

The average turf size for all the homes is 9300 sqft.
All relatively flat. with homes in the center of the property.
No gates. Really simple layouts.
To be cut every 7-10 days April - Oct.
And as needed in off season.
Mow, trim, edge, blow, trash clean up.
I used 36 cuts.

Apply mulch at least once per year. They supply the mulch.
(I multiplied 1 application x 1.5 to be safe)
Bed edging, weeding and maintenance gly spray included.
Averaged at 2 cubic yards of mulch and 40 linear ft of edging.

Trim shrubs and trees up to 10ft as needed.
Not much to trim at all. Maybe 5-6 to trim per property and all are small.

Soil Tests in each lawn.
Lime, fert, seed 2x a year.
Aerate 2x a year.

Nothing is irrigated.

So what I came up with is approximately $123.33 per unit a month for full service lawn care excluding mulch material.

Realistically, in your past experiences, how many of these homes could you do with a 3 man crew in 1 day? I'm estimating it will take 3 days to do them all. New equipment would be bought to accommodate the properties.

I probably left some things out. Just let me know what info you need.

Thanks in advance.

And for those who play inspector.
Yes I am licensed.
Yes I pay taxes.
Yes I have insurance and w/c.

cphillips0053
09-14-2009, 08:45 PM
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W.L.M.
09-14-2009, 08:53 PM
Well your figure per unit comes out to $134,000 for the year, I would doubt they are going to go that high. I do a 50 unit complex for around 31k and mind you that is not 12 month service only 7 but I feel like if I had to double the size of the place and add 10 more cuts I would be shooting for the 70k+ mark. A little more info would help too, is this a high end development or a government slum park?

cphillips0053
09-14-2009, 09:17 PM
It's lower middle class. All the homes are fairly new.
This is not a complex. There are 93 individual homes.

kj330
09-14-2009, 10:30 PM
as you said W.L.M. 134,000.00. that 93 house development will go for 55k max. I have learned by experience. i have put in 15 bids on similar properties, and 80% of the time i was double the price of what they got. granted i would of provided way better service. But they dont care...as far as the mowing up here in CT the companies that do these developments are at 30.00 per acre.... NO way I can do that

cphillips0053
09-14-2009, 10:48 PM
So what you're saying is $49 for full service a month per unit?
Not a chance I would ever touch it for that.

kj330
09-14-2009, 11:58 PM
sorry, i didnt see the mow every 7-10 days.Let me say this if it was me to bid i would be at around 185k.( i mow all my commercial at 55.00/acre) but again someone is going to come in and mow that for 15-35 max /hr. with 2 60' ztr and 2 trimmers, it could be done in less than 10 hrs.

cphillips0053
09-15-2009, 08:16 AM
I think I'll stick with my bid and see where it goes. I was just looking for ballpark figures on full service developments.

ALC-GregH
09-15-2009, 08:41 AM
I think I'll stick with my bid and see where it goes. I was just looking for ballpark figures on full service developments.

That's your best bet. Stick with your price. Why work for way less then you need to work? Submit your bid and move on. If they call and want you to do it then your set.

kj330
09-15-2009, 02:14 PM
the newest one that i did not get was for mowinng all the way to plowing. I lost it on my mowing price alone.32 acres of grass, Just the mowing my price was 1760.00/wk
(this property i figured would my co 16 hrs). The person who got it is mowing for 725.00/wk. And because he is a decent size lco and fert co, he threw in the 3 step fert program for FREE.(when i spoke to him he said the money lost from the fert will be made up in one month on reg residentials (because every lawn is rounded up).my price for subbing the fert out was 4500.00 and i bid the fert at 6240.00........