my competition....

[THEGOLDPRO]

saw this today as i was leaving the gas station, its an old pop up camper sawed in half and gutted, lol
http://www.msprotege.com/members/THEGOLDPRO/ghetto.jpg

[juspayme]

hey we all started somewhere, ive seen worse

[1993lx172]

That's an old Apache camper. My Grandparents had one out in the weeds until my grandpa and i dragged it out and took it to a junk yard. You could always tell an Apache because the roof always had duct tape and bits of tarp on it to seal the leaks.

[AdamChrap]

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[ZOO YORK]

not as bad as the guy with an 80's subaru and tiny homemade woodin trailer with an 80's walkbehind and home depot hand helds who runs around my area for dirt cheap. or the spanish guys who manage to fit a walk behind in the back of an old rotted toyota pick up. or the many other guys around here who find some cheap way to haul lawn equipment. of course they dont pay the taxes, insurance, and all the other big bills us real landscapers have:nono:

[flatlander42]

looks like a couple of nice WBs in it at least.
for the $ he dropped on those mowers they could have spent the extra 1300.00 on a nice 12' trailer.....

[Lawn Freak]

Haha thats funny, but everyone ahs to start somewhere.

[steelie man]

What kills us around hear is the fireman and teachers, with the old 2WD pu and an even older WB that will cut a $60 lawn for $25. But come leaf time, they are nowhere to be found.

Had 1 of my customers drop me for the exact situation, and then call me for leaf removal, quoted him $1000, the year before it was $360, he asked why it was so much this year, I told to ask his fireman why the price went up.:hammerhead:

[grandview (2006)]

This from the guy who drives around in a dodge!

[PORTER 05]

hey hes got 2 scags, i see a-holes driving around here with mowers out the back of their sh*t box cars.

[metro36]

Hey stop bashing my rig.



jk

[alf500series]

hey hey hey not all firemen are like that:nono: some of us make an honest living doing this on our days off.--and make the same if not more than being a ff.

chris

[SunState Lawn Care inc]

Whatever works and makes money. I started with a free model a axled trailer that had 2 flats I took 4 cans of fix a flat and aired them up and ran it like that until I could afford new tires then finaly got enough to buy a big trailer. Be thankful for what you have.

[kps2389]

I have seen that guy around before. He used to have a red enclosed trailer. I have seen mowing a few Dunkin Donuts around here.

[W.L.M.]

he has got $12-$13k sitting on that crap trailer, and a 10 foot open trailer goes for what? $950 LOL At least he has got good taste in mowers.

[Th3BullDoz3r]

I don't see the point your trying to make here? Looks good to me.

[gdguth]

What kills us around hear is the fireman and teachers, with the old 2WD pu and an even older WB that will cut a $60 lawn for $25. But come leaf time, they are nowhere to be found.

Had 1 of my customers drop me for the exact situation, and then call me for leaf removal, quoted him $1000, the year before it was $360, he asked why it was so much this year, I told to ask his fireman why the price went up.:hammerhead:

:nono: Hey I am a teacher, I have a 1999 Chevy Silverado and you better beleive that it is 2WD. Also, I run a Exmark Turf Tracer that is a 2004. Are you talking about me. If you are, I have a legit business that pays taxes, has insurance, I don't lowball, etc. I also can do leaves too. Just wanted to let you know all teachers are not like this guy you talk about.

[beegreenlandcare]

Hey, just leave him alone.:rolleyes:(sarcastic)
I started out 15 years ago w/ a boat trailer converted w/ a machine crate for the box. A real pain you had to tilt to unload equipment:laugh:
He'll learn soon those little tires are NOt rated for that kind of wieght and the 1st time he has a shredded flat and loses 1/2 a day of production where he should have invested a little more money!

[Turf Commando]

I bet by next season, he will be your equal .....

[M RASCOE&SONS]

other than the trailer it looks like he is doing pretty good for himself .does image make you legit?

[THEGOLDPRO]

i dunno he looks like a hack to me, and 9/10 times hacks are lowballing, and not paying taxes. so he gets no respect from me.

and no guy with 2 belt drive 48inch walkbehinds will be my equal.

[JosephLawnCare]

This from the guy who drives around in a dodge!

and they're 10 yrs old.

I don't see the difference between that trailer and the one in your mirror.

[THEGOLDPRO]

and they're 10 yrs old.

I don't see the difference between that trailer and the one in your mirror.

you're clearly ******ed.

[JosephLawnCare]

you're clearly ******ed.

******ed enough to take pictures of other people, post them, and bash them to shreads. what'd he do to you?

[Hanau]

Joseph, obviously you don't get the point. Even if you're first starting out and have no money you must have top of the line everything or else you're a lowballing hack.

This doesn't make much sense to me, but it's the point Goldy is trying to get across.

[THEGOLDPRO]

im not bashing him for not having top of the line stuff, i made the thread because i thought it was funny to see a camper chopped in half, and gutted out with mowers in the back, not to mention it had no lights, or a license plate. that was my original goal.

but yes now that you guys mention it i do think hes a hack, who prolly doesnt pay taxes, or have insurance, seeing as how the guy was about 50 i'd say he reciently lost his job and is now driving around low balling people, and mowing for beer money. and yes its clear he is a hack. im sorry if some of you take offence to my line of thinking, if you do then you yourself are probably a hack who low-balls.

[Hanau]

You've got some major insecurity issues Goldy.

Quit measuring yourself against other contractors and play the hand you got.

[THEGOLDPRO]

i have no insecurity issues against hacks, and im not measuring myself against anyone, i dont need to. i know these type of operations come and go on a weekly basis. and as long as i see them i will continue laughing at them and calling them hacks.

[joef450snowplow]

i v seen stuff like that hear in ny all the time when i work for a landscaper in my town iv seen a ford ranger with wood sides and a trailer with three wheels iv seen one with a old stationwagon with a scag on the roof and the redmax and echos hanging off the windows and a old jeep with a snow plow made of wood n a steel blade and plow wings on it so.... but hay if it works who give a $h!t

[cooltype]

why is anybody taking up for this guy with camper trailer and giving the other guy hell?

Is the guy with camper trailer gonna fix a busted window or anything else for that matter? no he is going to run away from the job and then when the customer calls a presentable company they will complain about the high prices because they let that scrub set industry standards.

[02DURAMAX]

Looks good To me...


He does have "simply the best" Mowers!

[THEGOLDPRO]

why is anybody taking up for this guy with camper trailer and giving the other guy hell?

Is the guy with camper trailer gonna fix a busted window or anything else for that matter? no he is going to run away from the job and then when the customer calls a presentable company they will complain about the high prices because they let that scrub set industry standards.

thank god someone understands where im coming from.

[WGLandscapeMaintenance]

I agree with cooltype and goldy on this one!!! That lowballing lawn jockey is what makes us look bad!! On that trailer it looks like the mowers could fly right out of the trailer. As well as whatever the hell that is in the bed of the truck.

[Danscapes]

Gold pro, you should follow him around. From the looks of it, he has no tailgate and all of his handhelds in the back.

[Turf Commando]

Because he has belt-drive walkbehinds and cut-out camper he can't be a success Goldpro..?
How do you know hes a lowballer and uninsured..? I bet he has just as many accounts as you, so YES he could be your equal...

[steelie man]

I agree with Gold on this. Guys like this kill us professional landscapers. They take food out of my kids mouth's because I refuse to cut an acre of grass for $25. If you pay liability ins, payroll taxes, workers' comp ins, truck ins(with commercial limits = 1mil - 3mil) how can you ever stand up for a guy who is doing it under the table for 1/4 of what you need to get for a lawn? In Mass, the State police now drive around looking for guys like this because Mass now has commercial inspections for trucks and trailers. Also, the IRS/Dept of Rev. pulls us over wanting to see our workers' comp cert. But neither goes into the inner cities looking for them, only the high rent districts.

[W.L.M.]

i dunno he looks like a hack to me, and 9/10 times hacks are lowballing, and not paying taxes. so he gets no respect from me.

and no guy with 2 belt drive 48inch walkbehinds will be my equal.

Just for the record those are both hydro walkbehinds like I said he has got 12k+ sitting on that trailer (if you can call it that haha)

[beegreenlandcare]

why is anybody taking up for this guy with camper trailer and giving the other guy hell?

Is the guy with camper trailer gonna fix a busted window or anything else for that matter? no he is going to run away from the job and then when the customer calls a presentable company they will complain about the high prices because they let that scrub set industry standards.

Exactly. I'm w/ Gold Pro. See this kind of stuff around here all the time. Had a guy a few years ago who thought he'd make it big doing l/c. Started out w/ a Ford escort and a little home depot trailer. Had a name that screamed "lowballer". I don't think he ever made any real money and don't see him around anymore. But, when he was in the biz, he did a good job but was simply a lowballing, hack and also screwed up the market...big time.

[THEGOLDPRO]

Because he has belt-drive walkbehinds and cut-out camper he can't be a success Goldpro..?
How do you know hes a lowballer and uninsured..? I bet he has just as many accounts as you, so YES he could be your equal...

im sorry i didnt mean to piss in your cheerios, do you drive a rig like this?????? is that why your getting upset?????

and NO he will never be my equal with equipment like this, let me explaine why.

1) i dont mow little postage stamp yards, they are a waist of time to me, i only mow bigger higher end accounts, i pass on the little crap yards im sure this scab mowes, because there is less chance a ghetto lowballer is going to be able to mow the yards i do with a 48 walkbehind.

and 2) the people i mow for dont want to see some scrubby old man with a crappy rig mowing their lawns, they pay to have a professional do it, not some laid off janitor.

[M RASCOE&SONS]

this is whats wrong with the youth of today.

[Turf Commando]

im sorry i didnt mean to piss in your cheerios, do you drive a rig like this?????? is that why your getting upset?????

and NO he will never be my equal with equipment like this, let me explaine why.

1) i dont mow little postage stamp yards, they are a waist of time to me, i only mow bigger higher end accounts, i pass on the little crap yards im sure this scab mowes, because there is less chance a ghetto lowballer is going to be able to mow the yards i do with a 48 walkbehind.

and 2) the people i mow for dont want to see some scrubby old man with a crappy rig mowing their lawns, they pay to have a professional do it, not some laid off janitor.

Nope, just like yours... use all commercial equipment ''Belt-drive'' 48'' Ferris commercial wb, Stihl commercial equipment etc, the whole nine to be exact...


There's many commercial lawn companies, that select wb vs zero turns even on large accounts does that make them less PRO...?

Never assume your not replaceable because you have a zero-turn. There's guys that prefer wb's and add sulkies and mow acres just like you...

As times get tougher. so does the competition, I've see fly by nights with zero turns it's not what in your trailer that makes you successful it's what's inside your head...

[THEGOLDPRO]

this is whats wrong with the youth of today.

please explaine.....

[THEGOLDPRO]

Nope, just like yours... use all commercial equipment ''Belt-drive'' 48'' Ferris commercial wb, Stihl commercial equipment etc, the whole nine to be exact...


There's many commercial lawn companies, that select wb vs zero turns even on large accounts does that make them less PRO...?

Never assume your not replaceable because you have a zero-turn. There's guys that prefer wb's and add sulkies and mow acres just like you...

As times get tougher. so does the competition, I've see fly by nights with zero turns it's not what in your trailer that makes you successful it's what's inside your head...

i never said walkbehinds suck, i have 3 of em, they have their place in mowing like every thing else, with that said i would never pick a walkbehind over a z-mower for mowing large properties, or large commercial accounts, thats a ******ed argument. z-mowers are faster, and cut your time in half usually over a walkbehind, less time= more money.

and i had a nice brandy new exmark 48 inch belt drive, and sold it with less then 30 hours on it because it never got use on my accounts, it was a waist of space in the shop. i only run 60 inch decks.

[M RASCOE&SONS]

what are you about 19,live at home,dont letter your truck because you run combination
plates ,dont carry workers comp because you feel you dont need it yet,still have a single axle trailer and you always laugh at others because it makes you feel better.i think kids today have no respect because mommy and daddy was to easy on them or they didnt expect that much from them.my 2 boys dont talk like this and never will.

[THEGOLDPRO]

what are you about 19,live at home,dont letter your truck because you run combination
plates ,dont carry workers comp because you feel you dont need it yet,still have a single axle trailer and you always laugh at others because it makes you feel better.i think kids today have no respect because mommy and daddy was to easy on them or they didnt expect that much from them.my 2 boys dont talk like this and never will.

yeah you got me pinned :rolleyes::rolleyes: im 30 years old, i own my own home, i dont letter my trucks because i dont want/need to. i run commercial plates, i own a 16 foot dual axle trailer as well as my single axle, i use the single axle because its lighter, and saves on gas,( i live in a hilly area) and there is no need to use a dual axle 16footer to tow 2 mowers around.

and yes i laugh at scabs who use old campers as trailers. got anything else???

[M RASCOE&SONS]

yeah you got me pinned :rolleyes::rolleyes: im 30 years old, i own my own home, i dont letter my trucks because i dont want/need to. i run commercial plates, i own a 16 foot dual axle trailer as well as my single axle, i use the single axle because its lighter, and saves on gas,( i live in a hilly area) and there is no need to use a dual axle 16footer to tow 2 mowers around.

and yes i laugh at scabs who use old campers as trailers. got anything else???

listening to you i would have sworn you were no more than 18 or 19 .maybe that guy saves by running 2 walk behinds and a makeshift trailer.is it just me or do you have a pickup with a single axle trailer pulling 1 mower and he has a pickup with a single axle trailer pulling 2 mowers,both trucks dont have any dot numbers ,both trucks dont have any hic numbers on them so in my neck of the shore you both would be hack scabs or whatever you want to call it but i would never bash someone or take there picture and post it on the web it just makes you look and sound foolish.

[THEGOLDPRO]

listening to you i would have sworn you were no more than 18 or 19 .maybe that guy saves by running 2 walk behinds and a makeshift trailer.is it just me or do you have a pickup with a single axle trailer pulling 1 mower and he has a pickup with a single axle trailer pulling 2 mowers,both trucks dont have any dot numbers ,both trucks dont have any hic numbers on them so in my neck of the shore you both would be hack scabs or whatever you want to call it but i would never bash someone or take there picture and post it on the web it just makes you look and sound foolish.

oh i didnt notice you could see the entire trailer in that pic of mine,:rolleyes: i have 2 mowers on that trailer, my 08 turf tracer, and my 07 lazer-z,
http://www.msprotege.com/members/THEGOLDPRO/2009rig.jpg
here is my other trailer
http://www.msprotege.com/members/THEGOLDPRO/bothmowers3.jpg
http://www.msprotege.com/members/THEGOLDPRO/bothmowers.jpg

either way i dont have to defend myself to you, and i will continue making fun of these scabs until i get bored with it.

[M RASCOE&SONS]

oh i didnt notice you could see the entire trailer in that pic of mine,:rolleyes: i have 2 mowers on that trailer, my 08 turf tracer, and my 07 lazer-z,
http://www.msprotege.com/members/THEGOLDPRO/2009rig.jpg

either way i dont have to defend myself to you, and i will continue making fun of these scabs until i get bored with it.

where are your DOT numbers ,where are your HIC numbers?your not a hack are you ?

[THEGOLDPRO]

where are your DOT numbers ,where are your HIC numbers?your not a hack are you ?

i dont need em wise ass.

"In select states (see green highlighted states or list below), all registrants of commercial motor vehicles, even intrastate and non-Motor Carrier registrants, are required to obtain a USDOT Number as a necessary condition for commercial vehicle registration."
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/images/gettingstarted/USA-Map-intrastate.gif

are you done trying to proove your point??? or shall we keep going???

[M RASCOE&SONS]

i have to man up on being wrong about the dot numbers ,you have the little truck and trailer .you still have to have the hic number posted on your truck thats if you even have one,if you dont i would get one asap and post it on all your contracts and put it on your trucks(consumer protection 860-713-6050).these guys hate scabs more than you.
it will make you look legit

[Hanau]

Why wouldn't you get a DOT? It's free for chrissakes.

[JosephLawnCare]

What a can of worms this thread turned into. My point, and I wasn't picking on anyone, is that I don't think its FAIR to the guy getting bashed and made fun of for having a "camper" trailer on this forum. that's all, it's just not right for him to get bashed without even knowing, or having no way to defend himself. What if his "other" trailer blew a wheel bearing and that's his backup???

[flatlander42]

nevermind.

[GXL2008]

I cant stand all the fly by nights they kill us. I have to pay workers comp and all the ins. fuel and repair three trucks pay 5 employees and still try to compete with guys like this. I hope his camper falls apart.

[EagleLandscape]

THEGOLDPRO...

You do not act like a professional. End of story.

Ditch the stupid signature. We all have trucks, and company tshirts...

[THEGOLDPRO]

THEGOLDPRO...

You do not act like a professional. End of story.

Ditch the stupid signature. We all have trucks, and company tshirts...

do you really think i give a $hit if i look professional to you freaks on here???? its the internet calm down buddy boy.

[Tom3982s]

I agree he had to start somewhere, and by the looks of it he probably got that cheap, maybe even free.

[Stillwater]

I cant stand all the fly by nights they kill us. I have to pay workers comp and all the ins. fuel and repair three trucks pay 5 employees and still try to compete with guys like this. I hope his camper falls apart.

If in fact the above is true, you need to stop looking at these guys as competition. View them as flies and shoe them away, You can improve your situation by marketing yourself differently. Direct market yourself to the accounts you want that are currently served by these guys. Go and seek them out and tell them why they should be having you service them. Man up get aggressive roll right over them. It is not always about the money. Knock on doors introduce yourself sell your service with your legitimacy and turn this around they should look at you as competition not you look at them as competition. You need more exposure in the areas you want to expand to. Tell every customer you have right now that you need more accounts and ask if they could spread the word, Your business cards should be all over the place and you should have a small constant add in the local paper where your name can become familiar.

[GXL2008]

Great points I think I will start this week. These guys really drive me crazy we try to look let pros by good stuff do good work and I'm telling you these mo and go"s are not good for the biz. who ever is defending them probably is one of them with only 20 or 30 lawns and no ins. with a wb and a home depot trailer.

[beegreenlandcare]

Give it up Gold Pro and GLX. Obviously the guys u are debating w/ don't have a clue. They think $10 a lawn prices are COMPETITIVE bids and STRIVE to beat those prices b/c well, they are competitors. (well, no, they're simply hacks who have no idea where prices need to be to run a legitimate business)
Gold Pro; Hope to see ya on plowsite this winter.

[THEGOLDPRO]

Give it up Gold Pro and GLX. Obviously the guys u are debating w/ don't have a clue. They think $10 a lawn prices are COMPETITIVE bids and STRIVE to beat those prices b/c well, they are competitors. (well, no, they're simply hacks who have no idea where prices need to be to run a legitimate business)
Gold Pro; Hope to see ya on plowsite this winter.
thanks man, in total with you included i'd say we only have 4-5 smart people on this forum. everyone else in this thread is clearly ******ed.

[WGLandscapeMaintenance]

That 4-5 people better include me. There aren't many things that make me more angry than some low balling lawn jockey with a janky ass trailer, sh*tty truck, and sh*tty ass (homeowner) mowers.

[Stillwater]

who are these 4 or 5 people

[THEGOLDPRO]

lol i meant to say "in this thread", not the entire forum :) let me put it this way, if you dont see anything wrong with the guys rig i posted, then your not one of the smart people lol you might be one of the ******ed ones.

[Stillwater]

phew..............

[THEGOLDPRO]

phew..............

just skimmed by huh??? lol

[Hanau]

lol i meant to say "in this thread", not the entire forum :) let me put it this way, if you dont see anything wrong with the guys rig i posted, then your not one of the smart people lol you might be one of the ******ed ones.

Listen up Goldilocks cuz I'm only going to say this once.

Thse 3 POS Dodge's don't make you hot ****.

My old Ford will make more money in a month than all 3 of your trucks will in a year.

Hell this old beat up is even lettered and sporting DOT numbers. Makes it more "legitimate" than yours. That's what this is all about right? Some hotshot my **** is bigger than yours internet contest.

Grab a tissue and dry your tears Goldilocks. When you've composed yourself put on your big girl panties and get you $100 worth of vinyl.

Then you can come outside and play with us.

Not all of us got our start in the business by spending mommy and daddy's money on nice trucks, trailers, and equipment. Some of us started with nothing and earned what we have.

Stop behaving like a petulent child.

[THEGOLDPRO]

who are these 4 or 5 people

take a look around still water you will notice Hanau isnt one of the smart kids, hes one of the ******s. they sure do stick out like a swore thumb....

[WGLandscapeMaintenance]

take a look around still water you will notice Hanau isnt one of the smart kids, hes one of the ******s. they sure do stick out like a swore thumb....

Are you kidding me?? He is one of the smart ones. He services 120 some odd mowing accounts, plants trees, is a TimberTech Certified Contractor to build decks, along with a long list of other services. You can't be an idiot and be able to do that. The idiots are out there mowing only, no insurance, with sh*tty ass equipment and do sh*t quality work.

I'll call you an idiot for spelling the sore in sore thumb wrong...

[THEGOLDPRO]

i dont care what he does, he thinks like a ******, and thats all that matters.

[WGLandscapeMaintenance]

i dont care what he does, he thinks like a ******, and thats all that matters.

His Ford isn't much older than your dodges. If that's the way you think, why don't you have an 09 Cummins Crew Cab Long Box?

[Hanau]

My Cummins is bigger than yours too. 6.7 liters. :weightlifter:

Is this "legit" enough for you?

Or is this still the truck of a lowballing hack?

http://www.lawnsite.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=163151&stc=1&d=1254524697

http://www.lawnsite.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=163152&stc=1&d=1254524721

[THEGOLDPRO]

i never said you wern't legit, im saying if you dont see a problem with some old d00d towing a camper around and lowballing people then your views are flawed. i never once said you were a hack, nor do i care if you are.

and i dont have an 09 cummins because i dont like beating the piss out of new trucks working them, i prefer to run older trucks that are paid off for work vehicles. i like to keep my overhead low if possible, so i can buy the toys i play with on the weekends.
like my boat, and my motorcycle, and my 32 foor camper with my 40k dollar 2008 tundra i use to pull it.
http://www.msprotege.com/members/THEGOLDPRO/campertundra1.jpg

so lets just agree to disagree i suppose, as im getting bored arguiring with you guys.

[WGLandscapeMaintenance]

I think you need to take an english class. Learn to spell!!! And, if you have these "awesome" dodge work trucks, why do you have a Tundra to pull a camper, in case you didn't know, pulling a camper puts "work" on a vehicle, if not more because you're towing a heavier weight.

[Hanau]

The point I'm trying to make is I'm still going to charge you $45 to cut your lawn whether I'm pulling the trailer with my F-150, F-650, the 07 3500, or the 09 3500.

What I drag the trailer to a property with has no bearing on price.

That dude with the shitty trailer could be the most expensive guy in town. You can't judge.

Agree to disagree.

By the way I wrote a $64,000 check to buy the F-650. No payments. Wrote checks for my 07 & 09 1 tons as well. Wrote a check for my 17D. Writing another check this month for a 50D.

You can't assume debt because we have nice stuff. Personally I live in an 850 square foot shack built in 1899. Saves money.

[THEGOLDPRO]

because the dodges are work trucks,they are dirty and smell like feet, the tundra is my daily driver its clean, and can fit 5 very comphy.

[THEGOLDPRO]

im not assuming you have alot of debt, and im not assuming your a lowballer, i made the original post because i thought it was funny to see it, then it all just kid of blew up into this, we all have diffrent views on right and wrong as far as this business goes, and again lets just agree to disagree. lol

[THEGOLDPRO]

I think you need to take an english class. Learn to spell!!! And, if you have these "awesome" dodge work trucks, why do you have a Tundra to pull a camper, in case you didn't know, pulling a camper puts "work" on a vehicle, if not more because you're towing a heavier weight.

and maybe ill listen to you when you actually have a business, not the trimmer boy for some company. :rolleyes:

[cooltype]

it really doesnt matter what the guy charges or what anybody thinks the point is he looks ******ed pulling that around a clean and safe trailer is a thousand bucks at most get with the program.

and stop saying we all started somewhere if i had to start there i would have waited longer to start because thats not the way to go into business.

[Xpertise_Landscaping]

This stuff just boggles my mind. Who would want to pay someone that has that sort or image to cut their grass? Honestly, i know i dont have all the top of the line stuff but c'mon guys he's obviously a hack. I would have gotten me a trailer first and decent mowers instead of that.

[Stillwater]

I am bored so I hope you guys don't mind if jump in this street fight hear, SO you guys... you seem to have strong ideas on image and professionalism. I want you guys to go back and re-read all your posts and grade yourself and each other on image and professionalism on a scale of 1 to 10 come back and post your grades.


And You COOLTYPE what you posted hear Quote "stop saying we all started somewhere if i had to start there i would have waited longer to start because thats not the way to go into business" end quote.

Really? now please tell us all hear the proper way to "go into business" because after reading that I swear, I almost soiled myself laughing. Now it is apparent and quite clear you are unaware of how one of the top ten largest
landscape maintenance firms in the United States got started, if I am not mistaken it was with a rusted and dilapidated station wagon needing a muffler, 1 old bowered push mower and rake and broom hanging out the back window. You could probably call them for some business advice but they most likely will not answer their phone becouse they are to busy counting the 30 million in earnings they reported. So care to enlighten us with all your thoughts on that?

Ok I am done now, please don't hate me.......

[cooltype]

I give myself a B- in making fun of this idiot,I should have really came in hard in the beginning first shoot down his rig then finish off with some wishful thinking like i hope his trailer gets hit by a train today so nobody has to look at it again. I appologize for holding back I am usually a real prick.

I think I might just go out tomorrow and show some real professionalism by beating the **** out of people with shitty trailers, This is getting out of hand.

[THEGOLDPRO]

lol all this over a camper trailer.

[Stillwater]

from where I am sitting it is very entertaining.....

[WGLandscapeMaintenance]

and maybe ill listen to you when you actually have a business, not the trimmer boy for some company. :rolleyes:

I may not own my own business. I probly know more about business than you. I'm working for a landscape contractor that specialized in high end commercial landscape installations, and I'll be working with a good friend of mine who has his crew (me and him) which is in charge of all the maintenance of the installations to earn more experience and have more money saved so I don't have to have pos trucks like yours. I'm a freshman in college, you seem like you haven't gone to college. Therefore, according to society, you are basically a ****** compared to me. Get some knowledge and take a community college english class, they're idiot proof, ******bag.

[Stillwater]

come on man don't hold back say whats really on your mind.......

[WGLandscapeMaintenance]

come on man don't hold back say whats really on your mind.......

Mmk? That has to be the dumbest statement I've ever heard.

[THEGOLDPRO]

I may not own my own business. I probly know more about business than you. I'm working for a landscape contractor that specialized in high end commercial landscape installations, and I'll be working with a good friend of mine who has his crew (me and him) which is in charge of all the maintenance of the installations to earn more experience and have more money saved so I don't have to have pos trucks like yours. I'm a freshman in college, you seem like you haven't gone to college. Therefore, according to society, you are basically a ****** compared to me. Get some knowledge and take a community college english class, they're idiot proof, ******bag.

awwwwwwwww i hurt the little fellas feelings, now he's calling me names :( lol come on kid lighten up alittle, and like i said come back in a few years when you dont work for you're friends.

[WGLandscapeMaintenance]

awwwwwwwww i hurt the little fellas feelings, now he's calling me names :( lol come on kid lighten up alittle, and like i said come back in a few years when you dont work for you're friends.

That's all you had to say? HA! So you didn't go to college? And na, I think I'll stick around to learn from the professionals, I do believe you are not one of them however.

[THEGOLDPRO]

Well. if you must know i joined the military right out of highschool served 4 years, and used the GI bill while i was in to get my associates in business admin. When i got out of the military i started working for a local landscaper, noticed how easy it was so i started my own business.

[flatlander42]

i'm still amazed this thread hasnt been locked down......People don't need to see a bchfest that should be done in PM's.

[WGLandscapeMaintenance]

i'm still amazed this thread hasnt been locked down......People don't need to see a bchfest that should be done in PM's.

I am surprised as well. And to Gold, I'm not impressed by an associates degree.

[THEGOLDPRO]

well lucky for me, im not here to impress you kid.

[Hanau]

Well. if you must know i joined the military right out of highschool served 4 years

What branch? :usflag:

US Coast Guard 2000 to 2002

Semper Paratus.

:usflag: :usflag: :usflag:

[THEGOLDPRO]

lol i was coast guard as well, where were you stationed???

[Hanau]

USCGC Polar Sea WAGB11. Electricians Mate Third. You?

[GXL2008]

Sorry have to jump in on golds side again. WGL you work for some elese and your jumping in? You have know idea how to run a biz. just the labor. Your probably not in college would be my thoughts. By the way evry one in my family including myself are all grads from USF. with are masters and work for are family biz expect for the teacher and are brother who went to intell then go daddy in AZ. get a life and a real job for real compny when you get out of high school the post holds true the guy with the trailer is bad for biz....

[WGLandscapeMaintenance]

Sorry have to jump in on golds side again. WGL you work for some elese and your jumping in? You have know idea how to run a biz. just the labor. Your probably not in college would be my thoughts. By the way evry one in my family including myself are all grads from USF. with are masters and work for are family biz expect for the teacher and are brother who went to intell then go daddy in AZ. get a life and a real job for real compny when you get out of high school the post holds true the guy with the trailer is bad for biz....

You want to see pictures of my f*cking dorm? Why in the hell would I have my location be Champlin, MN (My hometown, which is 5 hrs away from G-Forks)/Grand Forks, ND (UND) if I was in high school?? I do know exactly how to run a business, all on paper though, have I executed it? Obviously not yet. This is why I am in college, learning from those who have their doctorate and some are owners themselves. So that when I do start that I'll be doing it right. Just because I'm not an owner doesn't mean I don't know how. Jackass.

By the way evry one in my family including myself are all grads from USF. with are masters and work for are family biz expect for the teacher
Want to rephrase that to make sense? I do believe you should take an english class as well. You can't even make a complete sentence but you know more about business than me? HA!! And, if they're graduates of USF, all with their masters, what degrees?

[GXL2008]

1, Bio Medical Sciences 2, Masters in ED. 1, Masters in Gerontology 1, Computer Science & Engineering. Look I really don't care what your doing,hope you do well whatever you do. Just trying to keep a great post going. But I have to agree with Gold these guys are very bad for biz. they lowball, work for cash, no ins. and so on. I think like any other biz we should look and act like a group of pros. So that other types of biz or people know why the costs are what they are. Take pride in what you do and do it right.

[WGLandscapeMaintenance]

Yes that is what I believe, I hate seeing low balling lawn jockeys that are destroying the industry before I can even get my chance at being in it.

[Hanau]

Only one way to settle this one.

Whip em out boys.

I need to go find a yardstick for myself, but I have a ruler here for the rest of you. :laugh: :laugh:

[cooltype]

not that it matters, but i have a bachelors degree in finance, just thowing that out there, eventho that in no way accredits my opinion when it comes to landscaping or trailer evaluation techniques.

There is a guy in my neighborhood that used to roll around with mowers in his dodge neon trunk. its a newer neon like 06 or so. Why wouuldnt you trade it in on a truck is all i would like to know. He is still using the neon he just bought a trailer and one of those snapper mowers the funny looking riding mowers with 32" deck or so. He mows a yard a couple yards down from some i do, in the amount of time i did three he still didnt have his done and he had been there no telling how long before i got there.

This thread has inspired me to take a picture and post, i tried to get a pic last week but phone was dead.

[WGLandscapeMaintenance]

not that it matters, but i have a bachelors degree in finance, just thowing that out there, eventho that in no way accredits my opinion when it comes to landscaping or trailer evaluation techniques.

There is a guy in my neighborhood that used to roll around with mowers in his dodge neon trunk. its a newer neon like 06 or so. Why wouuldnt you trade it in on a truck is all i would like to know. He is still using the neon he just bought a trailer and one of those snapper mowers the funny looking riding mowers with 32" deck or so. He mows a yard a couple yards down from some i do, in the amount of time i did three he still didnt have his done and he had been there no telling how long before i got there.

This thread has inspired me to take a picture and post, i tried to get a pic last week but phone was dead.


Please take a picture! I'd love to see that operation. :laugh:

[GXL2008]

Me and brother took over my old mans biz when he got out of school and I took an early leave from a 4 bill. company. Just to keep my old mans name going in the Tampa Bay area. We employ three crews and office help. These guys if there getting started I understand but many are just thinking its easy cash drives me crazy. Any way I never get on this site I will have to do it more often. I was just looking for some organic lawn care help. Man did I get off pace. By they way I would need a tape to get a good reading a yard stick to small!!!! All the Best John

[THEGOLDPRO]

i was stationed in portland maine at the search and rescue station, my main job was search and rescue, and law enforcement. Then when 911 happined they sent crews from all over the east coast to NY, i spent about 6 months there doing law enforcement, and running 12 hour patrolls. i was a BM2 when i got out.

[Hanau]

I was Hotel 159 at the Cape, which class were you in?

[THEGOLDPRO]

christ i cant remember to be exact, lol id have to find my hoodie somewhere that says my class

[THEGOLDPRO]

wow, i just checked....weird i was Lima 159 lol we were there at the same time.

[Hanau]

We are getting old aren't we?

I joined the American Legion Post 13, how about you?

We were there at the same time! What was the name of that crazy Hispanic chick?

PERFORMANCE TRACKER!!!!

[THEGOLDPRO]

to be honest i have never joined a post, i have thought about it just never got around to it. who were your company comanders???

[Hanau]

YN1 Hartford and a BMC. Forgot his name, he was mostly in the office.

I'll never forget Hartford, that dude was a sadist. Army Airborne Ranger, fought in the first Gulf War, Mogadishu, and then joins the Coast Guard. He was whacked out.

[THEGOLDPRO]

lol i had one guy who was a yoeman, and another who was an mk1, had i known what a yoeman did in the CG i woulden't have been able to take him seriously.

[nikolai]

Thought this might get a few laughs.
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n80/NICOLIA_2007/IMG00082.jpg

[WGLandscapeMaintenance]

Thought this might get a few laughs.
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n80/NICOLIA_2007/IMG00082.jpg

:laugh:
Hey at least he has fast straps or w/e they're called. So the mower is somewhat safe lol.

[WGLandscapeMaintenance]

he's actually full of shyt on most of what he says, several others have called him out already

Look at his website, he's actually legitimate.

[2brothersyardcare]

at least he dosent have a Mason dump or a stake with ******* wbs in the back i hate that

[alf500series]

And firefighting is professional? It's basically subsidized. It's just another govt entity.

whether it is subsidized or not has nothing to do with the professionalism. and im also pretty sure that his department is feeling the economy pinch just like every other dept. in the nation. worn or out of date equipment , or with equipment/apparatus that should be put out of service.

with governments feeling the pinch the turd only trickles down hill........
with apparatus running at 300,xxx+ and gear at 3000+ it adds up quick. or for some--doesn't add up at all.

[36metro]

This thread is 13 pages of pure sh*t.

*trucewhiteflag**trucewhiteflag*

[Hanau]

Yeah, but we had fun.

7 pages for me. Odd.

[JosephLawnCare]

This thread is 13 pages of pure sh*t.

*trucewhiteflag**trucewhiteflag*

best post of the thread!!!!!!

[36metro]

lol....I call them like I see them. However I did enjoy the striping thread by same author that made up for lack of substance in this thread.