Fats?

[terrapro]

We all talk about organic matter and microbial activity and even some carbs, vitamins, and minerals for proper plant and soil health.

Well what about fat? I know it sounds silly but every thing living needs some fats to strive. I will have to say I find LITTLE if any studies and info on this subject even though fats are used through out biology for cell reproduction and energy retention.

A few of my feed grade meals such as molasses, soy, and alfalfa contain a rated fat content.

Please let me know your thoughts or concerns if any.

[atouchofnature]

Any natural product is going to contain at least a tiny bit of fat. Fat is not required to be listed on many labels, so many don't list the amount.

A great site to find protein, phosphorous, potassium, fat and many other nutrients/minerals in geed grade materials is ingredients101.com. Of course amounts will vary slightly based upon where the product was grown, fertilizers used etc., but it is a good place to get an idea of what the levels are. I used the site a lot when I was raising livestock & poultry a few years ago.

http://www.ingredients101.com/specification.htm

[terrapro]

No one has any thoughts on taking fats into consideration for organic sustainability?

[ICT Bill]

No one has any thoughts on taking fats into consideration for organic sustainability?

When I see a label that has "meat meal" I think of fats, but how many times have you found a T-Bone steak in the soil

If you look at the cycle of soils, fats are not there really, in some terms maybe. It sounds like we are going to be raising obsese soils

The cycle is carb's, sugars, mostly

Now if you are talking proteins, proteins are an absolute in cycling soils

Okay, Help me out define which fats you are talking about

[starry night]

Oh my gosh. Sugars and fats. The food police are going to be after us soon.

[Smallaxe]

Plants don't have fat cells like animals do... What would these fats be used for? The storage roots are starch mostly... Interestting question... keep us postted. :)

[terrapro]

Plants don't have fat cells like animals do... What would these fats be used for? The storage roots are starch mostly... Interestting question... keep us postted. :)

You would think they don't but they do. It is actually more important then you think. Where do you think they get saturated fats such as corn oil from?

I have to go to work but I will post back later.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat

[ICT Bill]

You would think they don't but they do. It is actually more important then you think. Where do you think they get saturated fats such as corn oil from?

I have to go to work but I will post back later.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat

You just said it yourself "oil" lets not get fat and oil mixed up, related but different

[Smallaxe]

You would think they don't but they do. It is actually more important then you think. Where do you think they get saturated fats such as corn oil from?

I have to go to work but I will post back later.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat

Good point... I wonder what the constituent elements are, that make it up? A little oil in each cell or if the are "oil cells", in the corn? Primarily in the fruit or is it in the vegatative body as well?
Interesting. :)

[Kiril]

Sigh ......................... ::backs quickly out of thread::

[starry night]

Sigh ......................... ::backs quickly out of thread::

Hey Kiril. How about "backing in" to the thread on "Iron". I'm sure those guys will love me for inviting you. (You don't need an invitation, anyhow, do you.)
You once said something about too much iron possibly doing harm to a lawn's soil.

(Sorry guys on this thread for going off topic.)

[terrapro]

You just said it yourself "oil" lets not get fat and oil mixed up, related but different

"Vegetable oils are 99% triglycerides. Triglyceride is a glyceride esterfied with three fatty acids. The main constitute of veg oil and animal fats."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_oil

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triglyceride

[terrapro]

I am not saying lets spread corn oil on our turf I am just thinking about meals with extra proteins and fats might be something to consider when talking plant health.

[ICT Bill]

I am not saying lets spread corn oil on our turf I am just thinking about meals with extra proteins and fats might be something to consider when talking plant health.

I agree with the protein part, good for you. Tell me about the fat part, I cannot "see" what you are talking about

[Smallaxe]

My turf has high cholesterol. My turf has clogged arteries.

Fatty acids and triglycerides. Fatty acids are different than amino acids. The naturally growing turf brings in only that which is needed, but only if it's available. ...

So the question is - Do recycled oils/fats in the fruiting body of the plant , provide any special benefit to the vegetative part of the plant?

[Does it break them down and use them differently than the original purpose? My guess is yes, and the meals are better because they supply the most abundant concentrated energy.]
*That is only a guess.

[starry night]

To the devil with scientifically-supported data, this conjecture is too much fun.