This is a nifty tool!

[Hanau]

Check this out:

http://www.trailgrader.com/index.html

I do quite a few gravel driveways and parking lots every spring.

For $4795.00 I don't think I can go wrong, it'll get a ton of looks for sure.

Sent away for the video, has anyone seen one in action?

Gravel Rat: I will not be using this on the 67% grades in BC. I will be using this on the Palouse.

[Junior M]

why dont you just get a tractor or a skid? would have more than one use?

[fastcat]

i think that i could make that for a few hundred bucks

[Hanau]

why dont you just get a tractor or a skid? would have more than one use?

My tractor goes 8mph.

My Chevy goes 120mph.

Which will grade more in an hour?

Productivity Junior, it's all about productivity.

[Dirtman2007]

I could see myself doing 3 things with that.

Breaking it ..

really screwing up a road with it...

and

Getting really pissed off at it and breaking it:laugh:

[J. Peterson Grading]

Are you serious???? Thats a homeowner gimmick!!

Don't waste your money

J

[Junior M]

My tractor goes 8mph.

My Chevy goes 120mph.

Which will grade more in an hour?

Productivity Junior, it's all about productivity.
If you grade a drive at a 120mph, I'll give you that grader trailer thing! Better yet, do GR's 97% grade drive ways at 20mph and I'll give you two of those things..

Chris: :laugh: :laugh: I gotta agree..

[bobcatexc]

I wish I had your money first a 63K F-650 now this piece of junk. I'd like to see somebody grade a driveway with that, looks like a boat trailer with a mold board under.

[Hanau]

Are you serious???? Thats a homeowner gimmick!!

Don't waste your money

J

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n6n7IfdmqU

Seems to work well in the You Tube video?

The job I have this in mind for is for a private road down near Kendrick. It's 1.5 miles and every May like clockwork I regrade and regravel it.

[JB1]

always wondered who in the world would buy that stuff.

[bobcat_ron]

Another gimmick, from the same people who brought you "drag a log with a chain behind your Chebby".

[Hanau]

So stick with what I've got? Tractor and a blade?

[Dirtman2007]

Another gimmick, from the same people who brought you "drag a log with a chain behind your Chebby".

LOL!

Rememver that thing called the "load handler" or something like that. It was a tarp that you put in the bed of your truck, attached to the tailgate was a wind up roll. Now really do you think you'll be able to crank out a yard of topsoil by hand:dizzy::laugh:

But the guy that made that is probably setting fine right now...

[ksss]

Well my Idaho brother, I guess that would be a thumbs down. :laugh:


Since your new here, you learned the first lesson on this forum the hard way. NO SLACK.:waving:


I don't know what you have for equipment, but if you need a grader, there is a company (Grouser I think it is) that makes a mount that goes under your tractor. If you have a skid steer or CTL I would go with the grader attachment.

That thing does look like a POS I must say.

[Hanau]

I will admit, it does not look ultra heavy duty.

However I was not planing on building an Interstate Highway with it.

My use for it would have been private roads, long driveways, and parking lots.

The idea I had was I could fill my F-650 with gravel. Then with this hooked to the back I could set a small spread with the chains and spread and smooth the gravel in one pass.

That won't work will it?

I also thought I could use it for spot repairs behind my Chevy.

[Junior M]

So stick with what I've got? Tractor and a blade?
yeah because you can make money with that tractor more than once a year.. Thats my personal opinion..

[P.Services]

How about you give me the five grand and exchange we go out back and I kick you in the nuts for being so bloody stupid.
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[Junior M]

How about you give me the five grand and exchange we go out back and I kick you in the nuts for being so bloody stupid.
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are you english or something now? ;)

(using bloody an awful lot!)

[P.Services]

No I always have. You are so eager to nit pick every one junior. Did you have a bad day at school today?
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[Junior M]

No I always have. You are so eager to nit pick every one junior. Did you have a bad day at school today?
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I am not "nit picking" Pic-ass-o.. Simply stating a fact, I've never noticed you say bloody before..

[ksss]

I will admit, it does not look ultra heavy duty.

However I was not planing on building an Interstate Highway with it.

My use for it would have been private roads, long driveways, and parking lots.

The idea I had was I could fill my F-650 with gravel. Then with this hooked to the back I could set a small spread with the chains and spread and smooth the gravel in one pass.

That won't work will it?

I also thought I could use it for spot repairs behind my Chevy.

Hell man, it might work but you certainly wouldn't get any style points.

[ksss]

How about you give me the five grand and exchange we go out back and I kick you in the nuts for being so bloody stupid.
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That was dam funny.:clapping:

[jefftb]

I'God boys, I feel like crap today but this may just be one of the funniest threads I'v read in awhile.......:clapping:

[jefftb]

I will admit, it does not look ultra heavy duty.

However I was not planing on building an Interstate Highway with it.

My use for it would have been private roads, long driveways, and parking lots.

The idea I had was I could fill my F-650 with gravel. Then with this hooked to the back I could set a small spread with the chains and spread and smooth the gravel in one pass.

That won't work will it?

I also thought I could use it for spot repairs behind my Chevy.

Can anyone with a shred of visualization skills propose putting this POS behind an F650 filled with gravel. I mean, d**n!

[Junior M]

Can anyone with a shred of visualization skills propose putting this POS behind an F650 filled with gravel. I mean, d**n!
That'd be a $67,000 dollar POS! :laugh:

A useless POS at that..

[Dirtman2007]

Can anyone with a shred of visualization skills propose putting this POS behind an F650 filled with gravel. I mean, d**n!

lol, I can see that thing getting caught on a rock in the road and the mold board shooting out the back like a sling shot. Then the chain holding down the 55 gallon drum snaps causing the drum to tubble off busting in the road. oh we arnt done yet, now without the weight of water drum this contraption starts to fish tail, flips over and destoys itseft. Then the face that Hanau makes as he gets out of his truck, PRICELESS!

[Junior M]

lol, I can see that thing getting caught on a rock in the road and the mold board shooting out the back like a sling shot. Then the chain holding down the 55 gallon drum snaps causing the drum to tubble off busting in the road. oh we arnt done yet, now without the weight of water drum this contraption starts to fish tail, flips over and destoys itseft. Then the face that Hanau makes as he gets out of his truck, PRICELESS!
all this is happening at 120mph, cause remember, thats the top speed of his Chevy.

[Scag48]

Man, how come nobody told us about these things?! $5K?!?! It appears we've been grading with the wrong equipment, guess I'll have to tell our blade hand tomorrow we're cutting his baby loose for an F550 and that sweet trailer-grader. The boss will be thrilled at all the overhead he can get rid of by selling a blade. :laugh: We'll pocket the winnings from the blade sale and make a run for Vegas, we can afford to fly the Canadian brothers GR and Ronnie down there so they can both bust their cherries, but not before we finish blue topping subgrade for an on-ramp alignment a full 2 weeks ahead of schedule with the trailer-grader. Life will be sweet!


But seriously, that thing is a pile and a waste of ANYONE'S time, especially someone who does this for a living.

[Dirtman2007]

all this is happening at 120mph, cause remember, thats the top speed of his Chevy.

don't you listen, its getting pulled by the real truck, the F650. no chebby could get that fast pulling a grader without burning up the tranny...

[J. Peterson Grading]

You know whos gets the biggest laugh out of this whole thing?

The moron that builds the grader!!!!!!!!

[Junior M]

don't you listen, its getting pulled by the real truck, the F650. no chebby could get that fast pulling a grader without burning up the tranny...
Well either way, it'd be getting pulled at a high rate of speed..

And its got an allison, its bulletproof.. :cool2:

[GWhunter]

are you english or something now? ;)

(using bloody an awful lot!)

Didn't know rednecks were known for there grammatical skills.:hammerhead:
And yes that toy is a total POS.

Matt

[Junior M]

Didn't know rednecks were known for there grammatical skills.:hammerhead:
:laugh: :laugh:

Not much I can say about that..

[Hanau]

Thank you gentleman, you all have made your point quite eloquently.

So I'm scrapping the tow behind grader idea as an additional revenue builder.

What do you guys think about this piece of equipment?

http://www.timberking.com/b.htm

TimberKing B-20 portable sawmill. I take down a lot of trees every year and rather than turn them into chips or firewood I could mill them into boards.

One of my guys used to work in a sawmill and knows about cutting boards.

Good? Bad?

[bobcatexc]

Man, how come nobody told us about these things?! $5K?!?! It appears we've been grading with the wrong equipment, guess I'll have to tell our blade hand tomorrow we're cutting his baby loose for an F550 and that sweet trailer-grader.

I think your onto something there, maybe Hanau can check and see if GPS or Robot equipment is available to run on it also.

Hanau I like the fact that you think outside of the box, but man your way outside, JR's going to have to start watching you real close so you don't do something real stupid.

[Junior M]

Hanau I like the fact that you think outside of the box, but man your way outside, JR's going to have to start watching you real close so you don't do something real stupid.

Yeah, like buy something Caterpillar.. :p

[SiteSolutions]

That would be handy to have around if you've got the money. How much they asking for one of those? I have a neighbor with a smaller band mill and a large old school mill... one of these days we're going to make some new trailer boards for me.

[Hanau]

Not sure on the sawmill price. Heard $18K.

[stuvecorp]

Check out the Roadrunner and I think there is some others like it for grading. This has been entertaining.

[whoopassonthebluegrass]

LOL!

Rememver that thing called the "load handler" or something like that. It was a tarp that you put in the bed of your truck, attached to the tailgate was a wind up roll. Now really do you think you'll be able to crank out a yard of topsoil by hand:dizzy::laugh:

But the guy that made that is probably setting fine right now...

I own 2 loadhandlers. They've paid for themselves 1,000 times over. Don't knock it till you've tried it.

I pull in to the dump, open my grass box, crank out a 7'x4'x4' cube of grass in one minute, shut my door and drive off. It can't do too much weight, but I've unloaded sod/dirt with it, too. Possibly the best $100 I've ever spent on equipment.

[Hanau]

Specs on the Mill. Looks like a diesel engine is optional. Wouldn't I want a gas engine for RPM's though?

SPECIFICATIONS:
TimberKing B-20
Motor 34HP Gas
Max. Log (Length, Diam) 21'-7", 36"
Max. Width of Cut 25"
Cutting Head 4-Post
Cutting Deck Twin-Beam
Computer Setworks Standard
UV-Protected Powder Coat Finish Standard
Direct-Drive Hydraulic System Standard
Stationary Command Post Standard
Hydraulic Feed System Standard
Automatic Blade Up/Down Standard
Hydraulic Log Loaders Standard
Hydraulic Log Turner Standard
3 Vertical Hydraulic Log Stops Standard
Hydraulic Log Clamp Standard
Hydraulic Roller Toe Boards Standard
Hydraulic Pressure Guage Standard
Highway Transport Package Standard
Stainless Steel Bedcaps Standard
Six Sidewind Support Jacks Standard
Blade Tension Indicator Standard
Weight 3,890 lbs.
Money-Back Guarantee 30-Day, No Questions
Warranty 2-Year Limited
Cutting Deck Warranty 5-Year Limited

32HP Turbo Diesel Drive Motor Optional
15HP Electric Drive Motor Optional
Log Debarker Attachment Optional
Operator's Seat Optional
Specifications subject to change without notice.

[Junior M]

Specs on the Mill. Looks like a diesel engine is optional. Wouldn't I want a gas engine for RPM's though?
But wouldnt you get more torque from a diesel? I dont know, I am just shooting in the dark. AWJ would be the one to answer that question, he's a freakin genius when it comes to that stuff...

[SiteSolutions]

But wouldnt you get more torque from a diesel? I dont know, I am just shooting in the dark. AWJ would be the one to answer that question, he's a freakin genius when it comes to that stuff...

Diesel will have more grunt.

And my son, who is 5 and should have been in bed an hour ago, insists that I put a smiley in this message. "The big one" he says...
*trucewhiteflag*

[Hanau]

Gas or diesel it's still 30ish horsepower.

[93turbo]

the diesel will probably use half the fuel as the gas motor and RPMs will not mater as it will be geared /pullied for the optimum operating range. As for the tow behind grader thing it could be very useful if you were grading gravel out if it was built right but from the pic it looks kinda cheaply built and poorly designed. I'll try and get some pics of what we use at the township when we just want to respread the gravel on the roads and not regrade it.

[Gravel Rat]

If you want a mill buy a Woodmizer or find a used Woodmizer they are the best bandsaw mill on the market.

As for that trailer grader you would need a pretty soft surface to grade.

[Skidsteerman]

The pull behind grader trailer thingy could be a great way to keep the gravel road maintained going down to the river. Then at the same time double as hauling your Jon boat on top for a lil fishin time.

One of my customers purchased a saw mill deal like that one or similar to it. His was in a kit sort of. He supplied the steel and built his own frame work, track system and the section for the power plant and band saw pulleys off their plans. They supplied the main components.

It does a pretty good job actually, just watch out for hidden nails and what not in embedded in the trees you cut - hard on the saw teeth. He did say that spend the money on good blades was well worth the while.

[RockSet N' Grade]

Milling lumber is an interesting idea. A few minor drawbacks I see: The building industry is dead, there is more supply of lumber right now than there has been in years and the price is dropping. I would prefer to spend 18k elsewhere......If you are interested in lumber, find old barns and strip them of their exterior shell and beams.......there is still a substantial market for that. As far as the pull behind road grader for $5k, you would be better off using that money as payments on a piece of equipment like a skid, mini skid, ho or whatever.......pass on that one. I recently purchased a RoadRunner grading box and did about 240 tons of road base on roads in Arizona. It works well and even a novice can get good results in a very short time. I used a regular box blade years ago for about two weeks and then gave it away......if you are going to use a box blade at least get a roller attached to the back of it - that way you can grade flat, do roads or do yards and leave a fairly professional looking job......

[lonnys]

You know whos gets the biggest laugh out of this whole thing?

The moron that builds the grader!!!!!!!!

i dont kow bout that. I am laughing pretty hard right now.

[Optimum Lawn]

If you want a mill buy a Woodmizer or find a used Woodmizer they are the best bandsaw mill on the market.

As for that trailer grader you would need a pretty soft surface to grade.

http://www.woodmizer.ca/

I would agree...darn good product and built just down the road from me:canadaflag:

that grader wood be good in blow sand:laugh:

[alco]

If you're thinking about doing some grading, I wonder if it might be worth it to look around and try finding a small older grader like an Allis Chalmers or something. Odds are you'd have to spend a bit more than for the pull behind model you were talking about, but it would be far more useful. I have seen them go in the $7500 to $8000 range.

[Hanau]

Graders are cool, but they're heavy. If there is such a thing as a compact grader under 10 tons Ive never seen it.

I'm still waiting on a sawmill quote. That would be a cool tool to have, I could have some fun with that thing. Being an out of the box kind of guy I'd sell the lumber at the Farmers Market as a niche item. Sell the fact that we recycled the tree rather than chipped it to yuppies. It's crazy what they pay for organic veggies. I'll make bank on "organic lumber".

[alco]

Graders are cool, but they're heavy. If there is such a thing as a compact grader under 10 tons Ive never seen it.

These little Allis Chalmers Model D graders only weigh about 5 tons if I recall.

[ksss]

Graders are cool, but they're heavy. If there is such a thing as a compact grader under 10 tons Ive never seen it.




Here is 3 of them. Noram also makes one that I did not link to. I think the Champion is the best of the lot, but I really like the PSI/Mauldin grader for its versatility. I have tried on three different occasions to buy one at auction. I have yet to see one go less than 30K. The last one in Belgrade,Mt last fall went for 40K. I would really like one but I would like to "steal one" just kind find anyone to cooperate.


http://www.championmotorgraders.us/images/gallery%20images/C60B_FB_DSC_0417.jpg

http://www.4amauldin.com/products/Maintainers/M413XT.html

http://www.leeboy.com/uploadedFiles/10150_brochure_685B_motor_grader_5-07.pdf

[Hanau]

Cool, I'll be in Spokane Friday, if I have time I'll swing by Mid Mountain and ask about the Champion compact.

[Junior M]

Cool, I'll be in Spokane Friday, if I have time I'll swing by Mid Mountain and ask about the Champion compact.
When you coming to Columbia?!

[hvy 1ton]

164405
6x6 scania with front, belly and rear blades. The rear blade is a spreader/windrow eliminator. MTKEF, the OP on HEF said that owner dosn't just maintain roads with this truck, he builds them.:dizzy:
164406

[SiteSolutions]

Graders are cool, but they're heavy. If there is such a thing as a compact grader under 10 tons Ive never seen it.

I'm still waiting on a sawmill quote. That would be a cool tool to have, I could have some fun with that thing. Being an out of the box kind of guy I'd sell the lumber at the Farmers Market as a niche item. Sell the fact that we recycled the tree rather than chipped it to yuppies. It's crazy what they pay for organic veggies. I'll make bank on "organic lumber".

Heavy, maybe, but you can road them to a job like a backhoe if it's not too far, if you're just worried about it being too heavy for your truck / trailer combo.

Seriously, though, I would suggest in the 5k price range, you could get a gray market japanese tractor and a box blade, or a used harley rake for yoru skid steer. Both work fairly well on gravel drives.

[tbi]

These little Allis Chalmers Model D graders only weigh about 5 tons if I recall.

I've got one of those.

[SpecOne]

I used to have a "D" and then bought a "DD" Allis. Both of them were great little graders. They were the backbone of my residential and small commercial jobs. Kinda wish I still had them.