ASV PT's vs SR's

[GWhunter]

I've been looking seriously at an ASV unit. I'm looking at a lightly used units.
I'm leaning towards the SR-70/80 or the PT 80. I know the PT's are the most current products. But are there any significant differences? I'm looking to get a high flow unit to run a brush mower and also finish grade and snow removal.
I've seen JPG's snow pics and I'm quite impressed. I notice dual fans mounted on the roofs of some of the SR's I'm looking at. Is that the high flow oil cooler? I've considered the 100's but they're just a bit too larger for 90% of my work. I'm also wondering why ASV units seem to cost more than comparable spec'd ctl's? Does anyone have any recommendations for equipment financing out fits? I've also been considering leasing a new unit but I really haven't been too impressed with my local dealer.

Matt:dizzy:

[bobcat_ron]

Those dual fans are the A/C system.
Go with the newest version. Get the good stuff.

[J. Peterson Grading]

The only difference between a PT and an SR is the color. The SRs weren't out all that long before the color change.

The Air unit is on top the cab.

Just do your research and figure it out. Chances are, most people that you will talk to have either never heard of an ASV or never seen one in real life, let alone actually operated one.

J.

[talus]

1 Great choice for an all season machine.

2 I like the 18'' wide tracks better. The 20'' seem to trap material in.

3 I don't know if the lap bar is an option anymore. I think the MP2 cab has the lap bar with the gauges in them. I have the MP1 cab. no lap bar. Just a seat belt. I went this route because I'm on the thick side. More width in the cab without the lap bar. I do like the lap bar but prefer more room for my fat ass.

4 72'' wide Flip up door,pilots,hi and low flow,hyd quick tach,ridiculously cold a/c,foot throttle and 2 speed. Is why I looked at this machine. Everything I wanted except the lap bar.

5 Lift capacity and breakout could be better. I may have somthing to do with the balance of the machine IDK. More than capable but not a super strong lifter.

6 Undoubtably the best machine for snow. Hands down.

7 Look at number 1 again.

I would get an 80. It has alot more features for not that much more money.
Check your PM

[GWhunter]

For mowing I'm more concerned about the hydraulic flow than the lift cap.
I haven't heard any issues with lift cap but I don't personnally know anyone who owns one. The pt80 JPG has seems to lift that snow blade with ease. The specs for the SR's and the PT's are pretty close. I was looking at Deere's 322 and NH 185c also but for winter work the ASV seems to be a better choice. I've been dealing with Norfolk power and the seem to have a real careless attitude. My deere dealer on the other hand really want's me to go deere. There's an NH dealer not too far away but they don't have any tracked units now only wheel machines. I'd really like to demo all three with a cutter on them but the deere dealer is the only one who is willing. They're a fecon dealer also so they will put on the brush bull head. I'd mostlikly get a rotary brush head like a Davco or US mower.

Matt

[J. Peterson Grading]

One more time. Every track machine except ASVs and CATS with ASV tracks are completly worthless in the snow. Don't be fooled by some sales pitch. Once that check is signed its too late to figure that out.

ASVs are the best all around track machine that you can buy. No questions about that.

I can do any job I set out to do with mine.

I can lift 2000+ lb salt pallets with out any trouble, I can mow with it with out problems as well.

Davco makes a rotary cutter designed for the PT/SR80s Its pricey, but its nice

J.

[talus]

Try Ahearn equipment in Spencer Ma. Great people and a great service dept.

[talus]

For mowing I'm more concerned about the hydraulic flow than the lift cap.
I haven't heard any issues with lift cap but I don't personnally know anyone who owns one. The pt80 JPG has seems to lift that snow blade with ease. The specs for the SR's and the PT's are pretty close. I was looking at Deere's 322 and NH 185c also but for winter work the ASV seems to be a better choice. I've been dealing with Norfolk power and the seem to have a real careless attitude. My deere dealer on the other hand really want's me to go deere. There's an NH dealer not too far away but they don't have any tracked units now only wheel machines. I'd really like to demo all three with a cutter on them but the deere dealer is the only one who is willing. They're a fecon dealer also so they will put on the brush bull head. I'd mostlikly get a rotary brush head like a Davco or US mower.

Matt

As far as lifting the snow pusher. I don't know what JPG uses for a pusher but I'd be surprised if it weighed more than 1200lbs. I'd hope it would lift it with ease.

[GWhunter]

J, I wasn't comparing the other CTL's to the ASV in the snow. I've heard the same comments about ctl's in the snow a thousand times. I'm wondering why Talus feels his is weak in the lifting dept. It looks like J's lifts a snowlaiden blade like it's a toy. The snow work will be a possibilty but I'm really looking for a good brush cutter that's compact enough for dirt in tight spaces. If size was of no concern I'd get a RC 100. I've heard of Ahearn I'll talk to them this week.

Matt

[J. Peterson Grading]

I use 10ft Arctics on my loaders. They are heavy though, but the 80 plays with them.

We mow with my 80, and love it for that. The ride is awesome, and having both high flow and low flow as standard equipment is wonderful. We mow some pretty steep slopes with it and it sticks pretty well.



J

[GWhunter]

J, would you put a mulching head on your 80? I'm think down the road of a fecon brush bull. I'd mostlikey start off with a davco or us mower rotary mower and feel the market out for the fecon. ARP and Quikdraw are in my area but there aren't too many other that I'm aware of that run the mulchers. I know both of those guys are running large CTL's. I feel for me that the 80 would be a good platform.

Matt

[J. Peterson Grading]

A PT80 doesn't have the nessicary Hydrolic flow to run a mulching head. I looked into it and was verry disappointed when I found that out.

I do know that Davco make a rotary cutter that is specifically designed to be operated on a PT80. Its pricey (something like $8000) I Like the US Mower like Minimaxs, I think that would be a sweet unit on an 80.

I run a 60' Hi flow Rhino brush mower on mine, its built strong, but its just not quite the mower I should have. But then again, heavy brush mowing isn't something that we do alot of. It does go through deep weedy grass like "Crap through a goose" I have even thought about getting a 90" brush wolf mower for it for this reason.

J.

[GWhunter]

J, are you sure on that? The spec on the 80 claim 30 gpm. A fecon requires 27 gpm. Gyro trac also offers a low flow head requiring only 17 gpm. An those heads are actully designed by Denis Cimaf from what I'm told. I wouldn't expect it to be the best at mulching and more of my work is heavy brush mowing. I just don't want have to upgrade in the next couple of years to a larger machine just to mulch.

Matt

[J. Peterson Grading]

I am sure. I wanted one, had cash in hand, (Sales people love that) and Iwas then informed that I couldn't operate the mulcher with the 80. You would need a 100 to do it.

It had something to do with the pressure of the pump. Example Mulcher needs 5000psi to operate, PT80 only had 3000psi. The flow was there, not the pressure.

J.

[Digdeep]

J, are you sure on that? The spec on the 80 claim 30 gpm. A fecon requires 27 gpm. Gyro trac also offers a low flow head requiring only 17 gpm. An those heads are actully designed by Denis Cimaf from what I'm told. I wouldn't expect it to be the best at mulching and more of my work is heavy brush mowing. I just don't want have to upgrade in the next couple of years to a larger machine just to mulch.

Matt

GWhunter..I would agree with J on this. The PT80 will run a mulcher, but the performance would be average at best. You'd be much better going with a rotary type brush cutter. It takes much less hydraulic capability to run them. That being said, I think that there is a "low flow" mulching head made by GyroTrack that would be a better choice if you absolutely must have a mulcher over a rotary cutter. I don't know of anyone here in my area of Wisconsin that has run one and there are dozens and dozens of ASV machines that brushcut up here.

[GWhunter]

I talked to fecon today and they're telling me that the 80 will run the mulcher. The gyro trac low flow head will work on the 80 also. The Gt head is awesome but pricey. What head were you looking at? I can give you the name of the person I talked with at Fecon if your interested.

Matt

[GWhunter]

GWhunter..I would agree with J on this. The PT80 will run a mulcher, but the performance would be average at best. You'd be much better going with a rotary type brush cutter. It takes much less hydraulic capability to run them. That being said, I think that there is a "low flow" mulching head made by GyroTrack that would be a better choice if you absolutely must have a mulcher over a rotary cutter. I don't know of anyone here in my area of Wisconsin that has run one and there are dozens and dozens of ASV machines that brushcut up here.

Why would you quote me on the Gt low flow head and then tell me GT offers a low flow head? A rotary type head will be my first purchase. I just want to be able to run a mulcher if I need to. Most of the brush is well under 4". I believe the us mowers rotary mower is good up to 8". I believe the Davco is rated for 6". I'm have a few accounts that are interested in mulching but they have questions about the brush growing back without the stumps being removed. I also have some invassive brush that one account wants removed but there concern is that mulching the plants up will ultimatly spread the seeds over a larger area. I've contacted a local horiculturest and were working on answers. I could always mow then pile all the larger brush and bring in a chipper.

Matt

[talus]

The SR/PT 80 isn't totaly pathetic at lifting. It's probably the weakest in it's class though. A snow pusher with snow might weigh 2k if that. Beleive me I'm not trying to talk you out of buying one. I bought one as I beleive they are the ultimate all season machine. I'm just giving you some honest feedback on my opinion. I had a NH 185 that would out lift it any day. Also a t 250 I rented seemed to have more lifting power. I to don't think a mulcher would be ideal on the 80. It will work but be awful slow. I looked into a Davco and was quoted 12k. They seem to have a good reputation and must be built well and very proud of them for that price.:laugh:
I really don't think you would be disapointed in the 80. It's a great machine just not the strongest lifting and breakout is all I'm saying.

[ksss]

Why would you quote me on the Gt low flow head and then tell me GT offers a low flow head? A rotary type head will be my first purchase. I just want to be able to run a mulcher if I need to. Most of the brush is well under 4". I believe the us mowers rotary mower is good up to 8". I believe the Davco is rated for 6". I'm have a few accounts that are interested in mulching but they have questions about the brush growing back without the stumps being removed. I also have some invassive brush that one account wants removed but there concern is that mulching the plants up will ultimatly spread the seeds over a larger area. I've contacted a local horiculturest and were working on answers. I could always mow then pile all the larger brush and bring in a chipper.

Matt

I think the invassive brush's ability to reseed itself would depend on what time of the year you cut it. I cut a lot this Summer and it never did come back. I was surprised myself. If you cut after the brush had taken seed than it might be different.

When you read in the specs that a rotary mower will handle up to 6 or 8 inch material that certainly is not a steady diet of such material. There is a limit on what a rotory mower can handle even a Davco which is as heavy a mower as I have seen. I don't have any experience with one, but I can say from the mulching side that 8" material is handfull with a skid steer mounted mulcher. I could not imagine 8 or even 6" material being anything but bad news for a rotory mower. Maybe sparingly and of course going very slow you can manage it but I can't see how you would not tear up the mower by working in such material routinely.

[GWhunter]

Looking at the Davco it looks like they require an awful lot of flow. The US mower is quite a bit cheaper and also has more capacity, I'm not all hung up on a mulcher I'd just want to keep my options open. The 100 size carriers are just too large for the work I do. I need a swiss army knife not one trick pony.
J, did you buy your 80 or is it a lease?

Matt

[talus]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj-3v4VVE9o

[GWhunter]

I think the invassive brush's ability to reseed itself would depend on what time of the year you cut it. I cut a lot this Summer and it never did come back. I was surprised myself. If you cut after the brush had taken seed than it might be different.

When you read in the specs that a rotary mower will handle up to 6 or 8 inch material that certainly is not a steady diet of such material. There is a limit on what a rotory mower can handle even a Davco which is as heavy a mower as I have seen. I don't have any experience with one, but I can say from the mulching side that 8" material is handfull with a skid steer mounted mulcher. I could not imagine 8 or even 6" material being anything but bad news for a rotory mower. Maybe sparingly and of course going very slow you can manage it but I can't see how you would not tear up the mower by working in such material routinely.

I certainly wouldn't be cutting max cap every day. Most of my work is old new england fields that haven't been mowed in quite sometime. The majority of the fields are heavy brush with a few 6" or less hardwoods. There's alot of russian olive tree's the owner is very concerned that mowing them will help them spread. They have small berrys on them and I'm told that planting the berries will spread them.

Matt

[J. Peterson Grading]

I bought mine.

Davco makes a cutter that is made just for the 80s hydrolic flow.

J.

[ksss]

I bought mine.

Davco makes a cutter that is made just for the 80s hydrolic flow.

J.

When I looked at Davco, they will match the hyd. motor on the mower to whatever flow and pressure your machine makes. Most OEMs of like equipment do the same from what I have seen. There was a Davco on IP some months ago that sold for 3800 if I remember right, it appeared in good shape. If your interested in one you might keep an eye out on there.

[QwikDraw]

Matt,

A word of caution, don't buy a Gyro Trak front mount as your only mulch head (when you get to that point) you will destroy the teeth. I have used the Fecon cutting teeth, awesome in a rock free environment which I had for a certain job. I then tried in a second area, at first look I said very few rocks...even 5-6 impact in a day wrecked $750 worth of teeth. You just can't miss rocks here in New England. Stick to carbide.

A good rotary does a pretty good job, not as quick to get a small finished product but it'll get pretty good and for a whole lot less up front money and cheaper to run. I run the rotary as much as possible. I used the Bradco today in a field/brush mix with 2.5 inch material, it was all I needed.

[ksss]

Matt,

A word of caution, don't buy a Gyro Trak front mount as your only mulch head (when you get to that point) you will destroy the teeth. I have used the Fecon cutting teeth, awesome in a rock free environment which I had for a certain job. I then tried in a second area, at first look I said very few rocks...even 5-6 impact in a day wrecked $750 worth of teeth. You just can't miss rocks here in New England. Stick to carbide.

A good rotary does a pretty good job, not as quick to get a small finished product but it'll get pretty good and for a whole lot less up front money and cheaper to run. I run the rotary as much as possible. I used the Bradco today in a field/brush mix with 2.5 inch material, it was all I needed.

That is the upside to the Tushogg. The one I have has the asphalt milling style teeth. Rocks are not an issue, I don't think they cut as efficiently as cutter style teeth but they are durable.

[GWhunter]

Hey Ted, I was hoping you'd chime in on this thread. I did a 5 acre mowing job today with my tractor and brush hog. I've noticed that alot of the brush that need to be removed always seems to be growing around rocks. It also seems that the brush is in clusters near the base so I'm wondering how effective the davco would be. The stuff I was dealing with today was about
4" thick but had 4 or more branches from the same stump. So I think I'd go in with the rotary mower then run the mulcher on the larger stumps. What is the opinion on the bradco mulcher? I'd hate to sink a ton of money into a mulcher that I'm not going to use constantly. The davco on the other hand seems like the perfect weapon. I did encounter some nice hidden metal fence post and barbed wire. The the snow started and it got cold and wet real fast. But the deer herd was closely supervising and seemed to be ok with me cleaning up all there bedding spots.

Matt

[GWhunter]

Ted, I noticed you have both a rotary mower and an ammbusher. Isn't the ammbusher a rotary mower with large capacity?

Matt

[J. Peterson Grading]

You had snow today??? You suck!! lol

J.

[GWhunter]

I was supposed to mow this lot on Friday but the forcast was for rain. So I figured I'd get it done today. It was supposed to be just partly cloudy. About an hour into mowing it started snowing and snowed for the nest 5 hrs. I was cold and wet to say the least. The snow was actullt starting to accumulate when I was finishing up. Today further warranted the need for a cab and heat.

Matt

[J. Peterson Grading]

I just saw a post on Plowsite, Jersey got a plowable snow event today. I would take snow here asap, all this rain and cold weather we have been getting has really killed my bottom line. In the last 4 weeks the guys heve only worked 20 to 35hrs per week on average.

It just needs to decide if its still fall or winter, enough of this guessing crap.

J.

[QwikDraw]

Matt,

The Ammbusher is rated for 7 inches but then you have a whole 30 foot tall 7 inch tree on the ground and processing it is the problem. It can be done but isn't real fast or efficient. Some stuff you just need the mulch head. For some wildlife projects with a spec of 2 inch stumps and nothing sticking up over 12 inches when finished it was OK but it looked messy (which is OK for habitat work but no good for homeowner work).

The Bradco is rated to 4 inch and does a decent job in briars and light brush also good on grass mowing.

[GWhunter]

Ted, will the Ammbusher mow also? I like the door feature to let in the larger tree's. I talked with my local Fecon rep today and he said the 80 will run the 62" model fine all the way up to capacity.

Matt

[ARP]

Matt,

It really looks like you are on the road to getting a mulcher. As a quick heads up, just think about the effect of a heavy attachment on the front of your machine espeically in rough or hilly areas. I was curious and looked up the specs of the 80 and the Fecon. The 62" Fecon weighs about 2100lbs. That is pretty close to the rated (35%) tipping load on the 80 which is just over 2100 lbs.

Whatever you do, make sure you get an upgrade lexan/ polycarbonate window for your machine. Also, demo the heck out of the mulcher/machine combo. I'm curious if the 80 really will run the head. Based on the specs, it should work. Just don't expect fantastic production out of the combo since the flow the 80 puts out is on the low end of the required flow for the fecon.

Let us know how it works out!

Andrew

[ARP]

Sorry, should have clarified my tippiness point. I know my machine lifts a head that weighs 2300lbs and when I get on a hill and/or rocks the machine starts to get a little tippy, even with a 35% ROC of 3200lbs. Just have to adjust your operating accordingly.

[ksss]

Sorry, should have clarified my tippiness point. I know my machine lifts a head that weighs 2300lbs and when I get on a hill and/or rocks the machine starts to get a little tippy, even with a 35% ROC of 3200lbs. Just have to adjust your operating accordingly.

Does your Lexan door have a wiper? I shattered my glass the other day (don't ask, but I wasn't mulching). I figured I would use this opportunity to get a Lexan door. The CASE Demo door is $800. Does not have wiper, but it is 1/2 thick lexan. I was considering having a lexan door built by a glass shop using the glass door I ordered as a template. I don't know how to address the lack of wiper blade. I have thought about putting something over widow to protect it from the wiper scratching the lexan. Any ideas?

[GWhunter]

I talked with my local fecon rep today and he said the 80 and the vairiable displacement motor will be a good effective combo. I'm actully looking at an rc85. The unit had a davco on it but the mower sold last week so I'm considering just the carrier. I'm not looking to jump into the mulching game. I just want the carrier to be capable if the mulcher becomes neccesary. I see too many guys going broke with mulchers. Just look how many RC100 with mulching heads are forsale. I can pick up a 100 cheaper than the 80. Look at the deal that was just posted here. I need to stay small and keep this a side biz for now. With little ones it really limits your ability to jump in with both feet. I want to continue to grow but need to make sure that I can afford the ctl with no work lined up( just from my day job). It seems from the work I've been doing I'm making enough to cover a new purchase and still put a little in my pocket. I think that the brush mower will be the most usefull attachment for 75% of the work. Andrew I know your mostly doing ROW work so maybe Ted can chime in on this. If you doing forestry management type work what do you do about invasive species? I'm getting a good rep with a forestry management outfit and keep hitting the same road block. They say that even mulching won't stop the invasive specises from returning. And that 100% removal(root ball) is the only way. I could always bring in a mini and remove the stump then mulch I guess.

Matt:dizzy:

[ARP]

KSSS,

No, my door doesn't have a wiper (really annoying). My door has 3/4" polycarbonate on it and since I bought the Bobcat mulcher, I need to run the door on the machine due to an electrical circuit that runs from the door sensor to the machine's computer. This means I can't take my regular door and put a lexan insert in it. So, instead I am working with a mechanic to fab up a longer wiper mount and drill through the poly to mount it to get my wiper.

I know Yellowdog runs the regular door with a lexan insert and it has worked out well for him. Maybe he will chime in at some point here.

[QwikDraw]

Ammbusher does a poor job in grass due to the short blades. The Bradco does much beter. The Bush Hog/tractor the best. A case of one attachment won't do it all.

Herbicide is the best way to beat invasives. I also think initial mowing/mulching and then regular maintenance mowing will be effective maybe not 100% though.

BTW I'm not too impressed with the local Fecon rep(there's a story). He's is trying to sell you an attachment. It will not be a good combination with the SR80...period. I was thinking the same combo when I got in...very glad I went with bigger and even that feels slow now.

[QwikDraw]

Call Brian at Fecon...he'll answer your question and give it to you straight. Ask for Tech support

[J. Peterson Grading]

I will also chime in. An 80 is a way better machine than a 100 from an operator stand point. You sit higher, can see out better, it tracks faster, its more comfortable, its quieter, I can keep going.

I also looked at a 85. An 85 is a 100 with 15 less HP, no 2 speed, and the same weight. So you weigh the same, and have less power to move the bulk around. I know for mowing in harsh enviroments you need as much power to keep everything moving as easily as possible. Less ground speed means sinking in the mud in some cases (At least here it does)

I dabble in brush mowing, I didn't go out and buy a Fecon or whatever. I made my first mower out of a 60" mower that I bought at a farm and home store for $500.00. I hooked it up to a 3pt adaptor plate I had for my skid that had a hydrolic PTO and mowed 15 acres the first few days I had it. I tore it to hell, but I made my money back and then some. That set up got stolen off a jobsite and I ended up buying my Rhino.

I might brush mow for 70 Hrs total per year. So its not my bread and butter sort of work, its just something I do for my customers. I might make 7 to 14 K per year doing it as well. Nothing to big.

Point is. Maybe you should just go buy a Bradco, or a simular mower to get your name out there. You will be able to do about 50% of the work you want to do with it, but that 50% will get your name out there as a person that can do that type of work for people. You will have less start up cash tied up in equipment this way, instead of shooting for the stars and hoping the fecon or davco is going to pay out.

Just trying to help.

BTW, My Rhino will cut through grass faster than my Deere 4520 with a MX 6 mower. And the MX6 wont drop saplings.

J.

[GWhunter]

Ted, is the guys name Greg Henry? If I was just mulching I'd go bigger for sure. I know alot of you guys are having issues with the RC100's holding up. I really feel the 80 it's the most manuverable machine for what I do. The tractor is tough to beat with the ground clearance and low compaction. I just wish I had the ability to lift the mower higher. If I had a CTL with a mower I could lift it and trim the top. I could see myself getting by with a mower and ammbusher or davco. The weight of the mulching heads is no joke for sure.


Matt

[J. Peterson Grading]

Something else about the 80.

Theres a story.

A coulple years ago, we were mowing a timber for a HOA. I was running my Rhino on my RC50 (I didn't have the 80 at this point in time) I was mowing trough some real viney, crap on a slight side hill and a large branch came up and across my front window. Well I didn't think much about it untill I tried to open my front door to get out of my machine. Well The branch had went through at such an angle that it went into one of the cab grab handles and wedged itself in there.

Well I was out there all alone, and was in a total panic. I kept thinking about how the Hell I was going to get out and the machine with that thing blocking the door. I tried raising the loader arms, but that made the branch go into the Hydrolic manifold that is on the inside of the loader arms, that casue the manifold to break and shoot hydrolic fluid everywhere.

So here I am, Alone, stuck in a machine that I can't open the door on, and its rapidly running out of hydrolic fluid. So I think I might be going to die here at this point becasue I know a fire is quite near and I could see all my friends roasting marshmellows at the RC50 fire.

Just then my helper comes from out of nowwhere and saves the day.

So. Having a door that goes up and over your head with out hitting any sort of grab handles is a real big plus while out brush mowing.

The End.

J.

[GWhunter]

I will also chime in. An 80 is a way better machine than a 100 from an operator stand point. You sit higher, can see out better, it tracks faster, its more comfortable, its quieter, I can keep going.

I also looked at a 85. An 85 is a 100 with 15 less HP, no 2 speed, and the same weight. So you weigh the same, and have less power to move the bulk around. I know for mowing in harsh enviroments you need as much power to keep everything moving as easily as possible. Less ground speed means sinking in the mud in some cases (At least here it does)

I dabble in brush mowing, I didn't go out and buy a Fecon or whatever. I made my first mower out of a 60" mower that I bought at a farm and home store for $500.00. I hooked it up to a 3pt adaptor plate I had for my skid that had a hydrolic PTO and mowed 15 acres the first few days I had it. I tore it to hell, but I made my money back and then some. That set up got stolen off a jobsite and I ended up buying my Rhino.

I might brush mow for 70 Hrs total per year. So its not my bread and butter sort of work, its just something I do for my customers. I might make 7 to 14 K per year doing it as well. Nothing to big.

Point is. Maybe you should just go buy a Bradco, or a simular mower to get your name out there. You will be able to do about 50% of the work you want to do with it, but that 50% will get your name out there as a person that can do that type of work for people. You will have less start up cash tied up in equipment this way, instead of shooting for the stars and hoping the fecon or davco is going to pay out.

Just trying to help.

BTW, My Rhino will cut through grass faster than my Deere 4520 with a MX 6 mower. And the MX6 wont drop saplings.

J.

I've already been mowing for abit. The Woods mower I've got is working well for me. I just want to offer a bit more. I'm not going to run out an buy a mulcher. I said that several times, I just want the carrier I buy to be capable.
The ground I've been cutting latley will leave a CTL stuck. The tractor is the best option for these fields. A CTL would also find itself high sided in no time.
I set the cruise control on my Deere and hang on. I've got my name out there and have been turning away work lately. Alot of the forestry management sites are a pasture/ hardwoods mix. So a one size fits all approach doesn't work here. I need more equipment to be able to get the whole job. These forestry management folks would rather hire one company to do it all. So I'd rather grow than lose the work. I'm not too hung up on the mulcher. I've got Ted and Andrew in the area so if I absolutly need a mulcher I can contact them and sub the mulching to them. I appreciate all the constructive replies. I also do dirt work but there's alot of competition here. So having a niche market is a good thing.

Matt

[coopers]

Matt what kinda Deere you got? Is that the only piece you have?

[GWhunter]

I want to thank Talus for inviting me over to run his near new SR-80. I really liked the machine and think it will be the right machine for me. I may look at a rent to own on a new PT-80 for awhile. I'll mostlikly buy a cutter head and see how the combo works. Worst case if it doesn't pan out Derrick(Talus) will score a used cutter from me.

Matt

[ksss]

Something else about the 80.

Theres a story.

A coulple years ago, we were mowing a timber for a HOA. I was running my Rhino on my RC50 (I didn't have the 80 at this point in time) I was mowing trough some real viney, crap on a slight side hill and a large branch came up and across my front window. Well I didn't think much about it untill I tried to open my front door to get out of my machine. Well The branch had went through at such an angle that it went into one of the cab grab handles and wedged itself in there.

Well I was out there all alone, and was in a total panic. I kept thinking about how the Hell I was going to get out and the machine with that thing blocking the door. I tried raising the loader arms, but that made the branch go into the Hydrolic manifold that is on the inside of the loader arms, that casue the manifold to break and shoot hydrolic fluid everywhere.

So here I am, Alone, stuck in a machine that I can't open the door on, and its rapidly running out of hydrolic fluid. So I think I might be going to die here at this point becasue I know a fire is quite near and I could see all my friends roasting marshmellows at the RC50 fire.

Just then my helper comes from out of nowwhere and saves the day.

So. Having a door that goes up and over your head with out hitting any sort of grab handles is a real big plus while out brush mowing.

The End.

J.

What are the chances of that happening? You should have bought a lotto ticket on your way home.

[talus]

Thanks for the doughnuts Matt. Maybe I'll be able to pick up a sexy white PT from you also. :laugh:

If anyone cares the ASV assembly video is on tonight @ 8 30 est on the science channel.

[QwikDraw]

Ted, is the guys name Greg Henry?

I'm not throwing anyone under the bus by name...let's just say I deal with Brian and he has been really helpful when I need it.

[ksss]

Thanks for the doughnuts Matt. Maybe I'll be able to pick up a sexy white PT from you also. :laugh:

If anyone cares the ASV assembly video is on tonight @ 8 30 est on the science channel.

Hey Talus,
Is this where they get the best of the FFA wielding team together and show how they build and assemble an ASV?:laugh:

Kidding, Kidding,:cool2:

[GWhunter]

[QUOTE=talus;3235625]Thanks for the doughnuts Matt. Maybe I'll be able to pick up a sexy white PT from you also. :laugh:

If anyone cares the ASV assembly video is on tonight @ 8 30 est on the science channel.[/QUOTE

I did see that ASV build and they make it look so simple. I did see the rubber for the idler wheel pivots we were discussing. I'm going to take a ride to Ahearn this week so if things work out I may stop but with a white ASV.


Matt:drinkup:

[talus]

Hey Talus,
Is this where they get the best of the FFA wielding team together and show how they build and assemble an ASV?:laugh:

Kidding, Kidding,:cool2:

No they were busy at the Case plant. ASV was stuck with the girl scouts and a bunch of jb weld:laugh:

[talus]

[QUOTE=talus;3235625]Thanks for the doughnuts Matt. Maybe I'll be able to pick up a sexy white PT from you also. :laugh:

If anyone cares the ASV assembly video is on tonight @ 8 30 est on the science channel.[/QUOTE

I did see that ASV build and they make it look so simple. I did see the rubber for the idler wheel pivots we were discussing. I'm going to take a ride to Ahearn this week so if things work out I may stop but with a white ASV.


Matt:drinkup:

Don't stop by if you pick up the white one. It will be the first MTL jacking in history.:laugh:
THIS WILL BE YOUR ONLY WARNING!:laugh:

[J. Peterson Grading]

I am getting my new PT60 delivered this week. Brand new, but its one of the last yellow ones left. To order a Brand new White one will cost another $4000.00

So for now, I will be happy with the matching set.

But next fall, I will have a brand new white PT80 out on a jobsite, with my name on the side of it.

J.

[talus]

I think maybe we should trade then J. I wouldn't want that white beauty to feel out of place. You could give my SR the PT paint so they all match. I'll even do the delivery and pick up.:laugh:

[J. Peterson Grading]

No. Its still a yellow one. Not a white one. My new one is a left over old color PT. Not the new white color. It will match my PT80.

To get a white one was going to cost another $4000.00

[talus]

I was talking next fall:laugh:

[J. Peterson Grading]

And I was talking this week. lol

J.

[talus]

LOL Congrats on the new machine. I will see you in the fall.:cool2:

[GWhunter]

[QUOTE=GWhunter;3236646]

Don't stop by if you pick up the white one. It will be the first MTL jacking in history.:laugh:
THIS WILL BE YOUR ONLY WARNING!:laugh:

I figured I'd bring some girls and shoot some amateur ASV porn. I'd save your PC at least. An then we'd have a product to sell and your SR would still look like the day it was built.

Matt:laugh:

[talus]

I like the way you think. You bring the girls and the new machine,I supply the camera and beer. Then BAM I hit you in the head with a shovel. :laugh:

[GWhunter]

I like the way you think. You bring the girls and the new machine,I supply the camera and beer. Then BAM I hit you in the head with a shovel. :laugh:

You could use the SR instead of the shovel but it would mean you might have to get it dirty.:laugh:

Matt

[SellingIron]

Has anyone heard that Terex is making the current ASV dealers carry there other lines in order to keep the compact stuff??????

[GWhunter]

Has anyone heard that Terex is making the current ASV dealers carry there other lines in order to keep the compact stuff??????

Yes, I was told this by a local dealer. They were happy to do it, but I've heard that other local dealers aren't too fond of it.

Matt

[talus]

You could use the SR instead of the shovel but it would mean you might have to get it dirty.:laugh:

Matt

:laugh:Yes but it wouldn't matter because I'd have a shiny new white PT to take it's place.:waving:

[GWhunter]

:laugh:Yes but it wouldn't matter because I'd have a shiny new white PT to take it's place.:waving:

Well bad news, they have a PT-80 but it's not in Terex white. The salesman told me that everyone wants the white. I really don't care either way as long as the machine works. I'll keep you posted on the potential new toy.

Matt

[talus]

Oh what the hell man. WTF Bah.:laugh:

[GWhunter]

The salesman said that the white ones were going first to full line terex dealers and then to ASV dealers. So this dealer wasn't too happy about it.

Matt