opinions on this equipment trailer

[ProTouch Groundscapes]

well, obviously our mowing trailer wont cut it for hauling the 10K lb rc100, so ive been looking into equipment trailers.

i definitely dont want a gooseneck/5th wheel trailer as it would need to be pulled by various trucks, and dump trucks.

most space taken up would prolly be by the machine itself, bucket included, along with 10' push box in the winter, but this would only happen maybe a few times as it would be onsite throughout the winter.

other attachments im looking into would be forks and a harley rake as the most important right now.

so what do you think of this: (the 19k gvwr rated one in 24' length) and pintle not 2 5/16 ball
http://www.appalachiantrailers.com/cg-deckover-pintle-trailers.php

[AWJ Services]

I wonder what axles and tires it has under it?

The reason I ask is because if you are using single tires rather than duals at that weight the tires are loaded pretty hard on sharp turns.
If you are stepping up to above 2 7k axles you need to go to dual wheels and oil bath hub axles.

Like this one


http://www.appalachiantrailers.com/cg-tandem-dual-deckover-pintle-trailers.php

It will pay off in the long run.

[ProTouch Groundscapes]

the one i originally posted comes with 2x 8k axles with 17.5rim H rated tires

[AWJ Services]

I wonder about the bearings and such because very few trailer companies use that axle.Is it just a tire and wheel upgrade? Are the brakes bigger.Etc

[ProTouch Groundscapes]

# 2- 8000 lb. EZ lube braking axles
# Heavy duty slipper spring suspension
# 215/75 R17.5 Load Range H 16 ply rating RADIAL tires

thats all the info they have regarding the tires/axles, and i didnt see any upgrade info so those are standard for that trailer.

the 22k trailer you posted, isnt it too big to be hauled by a 1 ton srw diesel pickup? seems excessive, but i understand what you mean about long term
reliability

[AWJ Services]

# 2- 8000 lb. EZ lube braking axles
# Heavy duty slipper spring suspension
# 215/75 R17.5 Load Range H 16 ply rating RADIAL tires

thats all the info they have regarding the tires/axles, and i didnt see any upgrade info so those are standard for that trailer.

the 22k trailer you posted, isnt it too big to be hauled by a 1 ton srw diesel pickup? seems excessive, but i understand what you mean about long term
reliability

Depends on who you talk too, but I prefer a goosekneck if you have SRW.

[Junior M]

Depends on who you talk too, but I prefer a goosekneck if you have SRW.
I agree.. Although I am running a 14k deckover tag.. :hammerhead:

I'd go with the tandem axle dually that AWJ posted, there is only 2k in weight difference, in reality that isnt that much. A 1ton would do it, might be pushing it legally though, I am not sure.

You'll look better than a guy around here running a set up similar to mine(Chevy 3/4ton CC SB and 14k deckover)

[93turbo]

The yellow trailer could be pulled behind a pickup but I bet it weighs close to twice as much as the black one. My father in-law bought one of thier GN trailers but it was a tri axle with the 7000 lb ez lube axles and it regularly hauls over 14k lbs hundreds of miles at a time with no axle problems

[93turbo]

Junior wher did you find the trailer weight?

[Junior M]

The yellow trailer could be pulled behind a pickup but I bet it weighs close to twice as much as the black one. My father in-law bought one of thier GN trailers but it was a tri axle with the 7000 lb ez lube axles and it regularly hauls over 14k lbs hundreds of miles at a time with no axle problems
I was going to say something about the trailer Chris uses, three 7k axles and has tons of miles on it..

GVWR 25,000 lb. - Capacity 20,000 lb. with 5,000 lb. Hitchload
Ramp Capacity 20,000 lb.

Its right under the name of the trailer, atleast I think I am looking at the right thing. ;)

[93turbo]

No thats not the weight of the trailer that states if you have atleast 5000 lbs on the hitch so that the truck is hauling that weight you can have 20,000 lbs on the trailer wheels for a combined weight of 25,000 lbs

[Gravel Rat]

Hate to say it but your going to need a gooseneck trailer if you want to pull any kind of weight with a 3/4 ton. A heavy tounge weight tag along will make the truck handle like crap. Even a F-550 will ride like crap with a tag along trailer because you have all the weight behind the rear axle pushing the truck everywhere.

[Junior M]

No thats not the weight of the trailer that states if you have atleast 5000 lbs on the hitch so that the truck is hauling that weight you can have 20,000 lbs on the trailer wheels for a combined weight of 25,000 lbs
Oops, well that was one of those times that I was wrong.. :wall :waving:

[treemover]

go with a larger trailer for that machine. We have a 22' pj 7k axles, usually a 1540 massey on it, sometimes taki 135 excavator and sometimes 277 cat. So nothing real heavy, trailer is 30 months old, replaced 3 wheel bearing, countless 14 ply tires, and was looking at it last week and noticed my ramps were higher off the ground than usual. come to find out trailer is bent(about 3" put string line on it) right in front of the front spring hangars and where the 6" inch channel tonque stops. Keep in mind we have larger trailers and it was never overloaded. So point of the story go with a bigger trailer. Oh and watch heavy pintles on a pickup, it will push the tail of the truck around on corners.

[ksss]

go with a larger trailer for that machine. We have a 22' pj 7k axles, usually a 1540 massey on it, sometimes taki 135 excavator and sometimes 277 cat. So nothing real heavy, trailer is 30 months old, replaced 3 wheel bearing, countless 14 ply tires, and was looking at it last week and noticed my ramps were higher off the ground than usual. come to find out trailer is bent(about 3" put string line on it) right in front of the front spring hangars and where the 6" inch channel tonque stops. Keep in mind we have larger trailers and it was never overloaded. So point of the story go with a bigger trailer. Oh and watch heavy pintles on a pickup, it will push the tail of the truck around on corners.


I had a very similiar experience with a PJ trailer. It was a POS plain and simple. It was cheap and I got what I paid for. After that lesson learned I bought this. Cheap it is not, but simply the best trailer OEM in my opinion.

http://www.towmaster.com/model_t-18dd.asp

[Junior M]

I had a very similiar experience with a PJ trailer. It was a POS plain and simple. It was cheap and I got what I paid for. After that lesson learned I bought this. Cheap it is not, but simply the best trailer OEM in my opinion.

http://www.towmaster.com/model_t-18dd.asp
I gotta agree with those being the best trailers, ever!

The price is a deal breaker for me..

[KPS]

I totally agree with ksss and junior, Towmaster makes a phenominal trailer. I have put well over 12k on our 16' float and it tracks extremely straight and predictably. Torflex axles are the way to go, smooooth compared to spring suspension. For sure go bigger than you think is reasonable at the time, 16' seemed huge when we got it but now I wish it was 20', but it was used and half the price of new so it is what it is.

[mudmaker]

I like that towmaster!!

Personally I would not pull more than 10k on a bumper pull behind a pickup. I don't think the factory receivers are rated for more than that anyway. If I am hauling more than 10k I use my gooseneck.

I looked at upgrading my gooseneck to the Dexter super single setup. The crazy thing is the only difference we could find is the brakes are like a 1/2 inch wider. I am thinking about just putting some 19.5 rims on it just so I have a little extra capacity (helps that I have 4 good 19.5 tires sitting next to my garage)

BTW, go with the pintle hitch. I love my pintle hitch on my skid trailer. Makes hooking up solo much easier IMHO!

[ksss]

I like that towmaster!!

Personally I would not pull more than 10k on a bumper pull behind a pickup. I don't think the factory receivers are rated for more than that anyway. If I am hauling more than 10k I use my gooseneck.

I looked at upgrading my gooseneck to the Dexter super single setup. The crazy thing is the only difference we could find is the brakes are like a 1/2 inch wider. I am thinking about just putting some 19.5 rims on it just so I have a little extra capacity (helps that I have 4 good 19.5 tires sitting next to my garage)

BTW, go with the pintle hitch. I love my pintle hitch on my skid trailer. Makes hooking up solo much easier IMHO!

I pull the Towmaster primarily with the 5500 and it has a massive hitch assembly. I have an after market hitch on my 3500. I agree about the factory hitch not handling that kind of weight. I would not tow max. GVW with that anyway.

Its a fantastic trailer.

[RockSet N' Grade]

I have been quiet on this.....read every post. Have a PJ 18' sitting behind my barn - hidden. Only comes out when I am desperate or need a place to sit after chores.....just don't really trust it.

[mudmaker]

I pull the Towmaster primarily with the 5500 and it has a massive hitch assembly. I have an after market hitch on my 3500. I agree about the factory hitch not handling that kind of weight. I would not tow max. GVW with that anyway.

Its a fantastic trailer.

I figured you pulled it with your 5500 after seeing it in your sig. That is a nice setup.

I have a Delta 22' 14k skid trailer. Front 6 ft is stationary with the back 16' tilt. It is a cheap trailer, but seems to be holding up well. It is 5 years old now, but I only use it to haul my 1845 so it doesn't get loaded too heavy.

[Danny Boy]

I gotta agree with those being the best trailers, ever!

The price is a deal breaker for me..

Don't see a price for that one, how much is it?

[ksss]

Don't see a price for that one, how much is it?

I paid $9K. and I picked it up at the factory in Mn. That was in 05, don't know if they have come up or down in price since.

[ksss]

I have been quiet on this.....read every post. Have a PJ 18' sitting behind my barn - hidden. Only comes out when I am desperate or need a place to sit after chores.....just don't really trust it.


That sounds like something a PJ trailer could actually handle.:clapping:

[Gravel Rat]

This is the most common trailer manufacturer where I live they are tough trailers.

www.trailking.com/trailers/files/TK_Tag_Trailers-2.pdf

You don't want to buy a cheap trailer they do twist and bend and cause your problems.

I would try avoid single wheel tandems that use 16 inch rubber as there is too much weight on them get a triaxle with single axle rubber any turns you can see the wheels flexing and things snapping any popping.

[Junior M]

I have been quiet on this.....read every post. Have a PJ 18' sitting behind my barn - hidden. Only comes out when I am desperate or need a place to sit after chores.....just don't really trust it.
I got one setting in the yard.... just doesnt get used.. :p

[AWJ Services]

My Pj has at least 60k miles on it.
No problems what so ever?
Mine is a goosekneck between the fenders.

Tires are a differnet story.LOL

[wanabe]

http://stlouis.craigslist.org/grd/1419557387.html

How about this?

[ProTouch Groundscapes]

the trailer I originally posted uses a 10" main channel, not 6 like the PJ

and I would like a gooseneck, but I know there will be times when this machine will need to be hauled by our dump truck, then what am I going to do?

[Junior M]

the trailer I originally posted uses a 10" main channel, not 6 like the PJ

and I would like a gooseneck, but I know there will be times when this machine will need to be hauled by our dump truck, then what am I going to do?
put it on the bumper hitch, seen it done! :laugh: :hammerhead:

And AWJ, I was going to say, I've got a PJ, no problems. Been overloaded most of its life, Chris has one and no problems. My only complaint is the weak ass ramps.. :realmad:

[AWJ Services]

the trailer I originally posted uses a 10" main channel, not 6 like the PJ

and I would like a gooseneck, but I know there will be times when this machine will need to be hauled by our dump truck, then what am I going to do?

I agree on the tag being your best choice.
Go to the dealer and hook the trailers up and take them for a spin with your small truck and see.

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sorry junior, daddy doesnt buy my equipment so I cant have a dedicated p/u for gooseneck duties, everything in our fleet has to be multitasked.

[Junior M]

sorry junior, daddy doesnt buy my equipment so I cant have a dedicated p/u for gooseneck duties, everything in our fleet has to be multitasked.
Your preaching to the choir buddy, I run a 14k deckover tag so I dont have a dedicated truck. Btw, the pick up is also a service truck, is filled with tools and supplies to wire houses and pools, I got the small Stihl in there along with the lazer for excavation. You cant say that truck isnt multi tasked. So where would I put a hitch? Much less how would I keep all that crap dry while pulling a trailer?

And your dead wrong if Dad bought the trailer, we both paid for it..

[ProTouch Groundscapes]

sorry junior, i misread your post, thought the lil crazy smiley thing meant that I was being crazy and unsafe putting that much weight on a bumper pull.

its been a long and rainy day....

[Junior M]

sorry junior, i misread your post, thought the lil crazy smiley thing meant that I was being crazy and unsafe putting that much weight on a bumper pull.

its been a long and rainy day....
No, I was refering to a dufus here that hooks up a gooseneck to hitch on the rear of the truck.. ;)

Its good, we all have bad days, I just lost the contract for taking care of a 20acre horse farm.. S#it happens...