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thomkirby
10-17-2009, 04:09 PM
Question to solve a solution on my new home that some of you have resolved in practical means. The builder installed the recessed house number into the brickwork on the left side of the garage front wall. Problem is they also installed the exterior lights directly 18 to 24-inches above. Thus at night the lights are casting a dark shadow downward thus making the number unreadable from the street (about 80-feet away).

I have to add a spot light to shine on the house number to help anyone looking for that at night. The driveway and brick pavers are extending about four feet to the left of the corner of the house. Then I have about a 5-foot strip of grass next to a large flower bed. Putting a light in the bed would be about 25-feet from the numbers at about a 45-degree angle to the wall. I could install a in-ground can light in the brick pavers since they are not down yet.

Any suggestions that I can use to either implement in a DIY project or put in the bid specs for a professional install?

Been reading alot of your comments and suggestions and great light pictures so finally had to ask.

Thanks,
ThomKirby:confused:

Classic Lighting
10-17-2009, 04:44 PM
A picture is worth a thousand words.

Pro-Scapes
10-17-2009, 05:49 PM
I am trying to imagine your scene from your description. I think what I am coming up with and what you actually have may be 2 different things but again some pictures would be great.

I might even opt to do a nice carved sign or boulder in the yard then light that vs trying to aim a spot light at my house from 25 ft away to highlight something as small as a house number.

Lite4
10-18-2009, 07:32 AM
Question to solve a solution on my new home that some of you have resolved in practical means. The builder installed the recessed house number into the brickwork on the left side of the garage front wall. Problem is they also installed the exterior lights directly 18 to 24-inches above. Thus at night the lights are casting a dark shadow downward thus making the number unreadable from the street (about 80-feet away).

I have to add a spot light to shine on the house number to help anyone looking for that at night. The driveway and brick pavers are extending about four feet to the left of the corner of the house. Then I have about a 5-foot strip of grass next to a large flower bed. Putting a light in the bed would be about 25-feet from the numbers at about a 45-degree angle to the wall. I could install a in-ground can light in the brick pavers since they are not down yet.

Any suggestions that I can use to either implement in a DIY project or put in the bid specs for a professional install?

Been reading alot of your comments and suggestions and great light pictures so finally had to ask.

Thanks,
ThomKirby:confused:


OK, This is a pretty common problem. The builder probably installed some carriage style lights on the front of the house which I like to call "glare bombs". Simply because they are annoyingly over bright. What's happening is, these lights are placed so close to the "shadowed" numbers and the contrast level is so high it is hard to pick up the numbers visually because of the intense glare from the carriage lights.

The solution:
1. Change out the carriage style fixtures to a wall sconce in which the "bulb" is concealed and the light is projected up and down instead of out. With an up/down or down only sconce you will pick up those numbers fairly easily it sounds.

2. Core in a uplight in the pavers directly below the numbers to "fill in" the darker area.

Terradek
10-19-2009, 09:43 AM
Firefly's suggestion is a good one...replace the glare bombs with up and down sconces, this is an easy fix.

Another option is to use a portable planter. The planter can be located as needed and serves as the platform for your fixture, use the drain hole to feed your home run to the fixture. I have used this technique in many situations (e.g. entry ways) where the hard scape does not allow for proper "up light" fixture location.

JoeyD
10-19-2009, 12:10 PM
Just FYI we have an address kit for our Voyager Step Lights. I will geta picture of it....

pihta
10-19-2009, 02:10 PM
here it is :clapping:

JoeyD
10-19-2009, 04:45 PM
making me look bad...........hahahahaha

thomkirby
10-20-2009, 02:55 AM
Thanks for the input. TerraDek might have the easiest way out of this and Firefly is hitting on another concept. Pihta is close as needing a way to light up a house number closer to street. Anything that might help emergency services come to the right house is a good bet these days.
I'll get a picture up later next week that will show a better shot. Found a picture prior to any landscaping which we are doing a major change over in a few weeks. Left side of picture shows the problem as the carriage light cast the shadow down thus hiding the number at night.

ThomKirby

emby
10-20-2009, 08:44 AM
I have to agree with Tim as well. A wall mounted downlight would work perfectly to solve that problem.
Those current wall lights are mounted unusually high. As an electrician I usually place them a lot lower than that but to each his own.
I have not seen the finsihed landscaping but another option is to bring the number of the house closer to the road via a rock or boulder with the number on it and then you can light it with an uplight. Not too sure which will be more economical. Just my 2 cents.

Ken

JoeyD
10-20-2009, 10:26 AM
Replace the carriage lights with the Orion 12" 120v Sconce Light! DONE!

http://www.uniquelighting.com/product_pages/ORION9.htm

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb97/ulsjoeyd/lighting/ApplicationShotsORIONSERIES012.jpg

emby
10-20-2009, 03:52 PM
Hey Joey,

Those are cool. I did not know that the Orions came 120V. I actually have a job for next spring where they will be perfect. Thanks.

Ken

JoeyD
10-22-2009, 10:22 AM
yep you can get the Orion 9 and 12 in both 120v or 12/24v!!! Let me know if you have any other questions!

Pro-Scapes
10-22-2009, 02:54 PM
Yes sir. We use them several times a year. Now keep in mind the orion 9 120v is a single lamp and the orion 12 is a dual lamp.

I cant imagine Joey didnt plug in that they are in copper too known as Chamberlains.

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another option is to bring the number of the house closer to the road via a rock or boulder with the number on it and then you can light it with an uplight. Not too sure which will be more economical. Just my 2 cents.

Ken

I agree thats why I said it 8 posts above this. Nice looking house. ... Orion 9 would look ok there, I would choose this because of the singluar lamp and I could lamp it so it throws more light down than up becuase the fixture is so close to the eave, but I would also have the number someplace closer to the road to make the house easier to see. I dont like how the number is not centered with the fixture. Since I have Chamberlain 9 in stock I would simply hook it up and allow the client to see first hand how it looks. Since that also appears to be on the edge of some concrete around that corner Gerrys idea of a planter would also be nice there.

A carved boulder would look nice in that setting and would ultimatly be more attactive than trying to light that number.

JoeyD
10-22-2009, 03:47 PM
thanks Billy!!!!!


http://www.uniquelighting.com/product_pages/Chamberlain9.htm

Lite4
10-22-2009, 08:06 PM
Yep, I have used 12 in the last month. Great fixtures- simple and clean.
Just put in some par 16s