Timberking B-20

[Hanau]

I know some of you guys were interested in the Timberking B-20 price. It's $27,495 with the gas engine. Diesel is a $6500 option.

Heck I need a hobby so I'm going to get one. I could have tons of fun with something like this. Make new decks for my trailers, do some custom work for homebuilders, stuff like that.

This being logging country I shouldn't have a problem getting truck loads of logs to play with.

I'm leaning towards the gas engine.

[Junior M]

If money isnt an issue, I'd go with diesel..

[Hanau]

I don't see the benefit of diesel. The unit in the video was gas and it was tearing through some huge logs fast. 200 board feet of lumber in 15 minutes.

At .50 a board foot that's $400 an hour.

$27,495/400=68 hours and the machine has paid for itself.

.50 per board foot is the rate Timberking recommends a sawyer charge for custom milling.

[Junior M]

I don't see the benefit of diesel. The unit in the video was gas and it was tearing through some huge logs fast. 200 board feet of lumber in 15 minutes.

At .50 a board foot that's $400 an hour.

$27,495/400=68 hours and the machine has paid for itself.

.50 per board foot is the rate Timberking recommends a sawyer charge for custom milling.
of course they are going to make it look good.. :hammerhead:

I'd contact them to see if someone around you owns one you can watch run..

[Hanau]

No **** Junior, that's a best case scenario. The machine has the potential to make $400/hour under ideal circumstances. I'd be content with half that in real world conditions.

I'm waiting on Timberking to get back to me on a machine owner within a few hundred miles of here.

[Junior M]

No **** Junior, that's a best case scenario. The machine has the potential to make $400/hour under ideal circumstances. I'd be content with half that in real world conditions.

I'm waiting on Timberking to get back to me on a machine owner within a few hundred miles of here.
I was refering to the gas motor in my statement, Not the money aspect, I've got no argument against you buying it or how much money it might make..

[Hanau]

Well damn Junior, you could be a little more clear. :laugh:

The B-20 has 2 engines. 1 runs the hydraulics (gas) and the other runs the blade (gas or diesel). Seeing as how the fuel tanks are right next to each other I could see myself putting the wrong fuel in the tanks. If the whole thing is gas or the whole thing is diesel I don't see an issue. A mixed fuel machine is asking for problems.

The other issue is that the diesel is heavier and more powerful, but they don't increase the diameter or the length of the log you can cut.

So I don't see any benefit to diesel over gas in this application.

[Junior M]

Well damn Junior, you could be a little more clear. :laugh:

The B-20 has 2 engines. 1 runs the hydraulics (gas) and the other runs the blade (gas or diesel). Seeing as how the fuel tanks are right next to each other I could see myself putting the wrong fuel in the tanks. If the whole thing is gas or the whole thing is diesel I don't see an issue. A mixed fuel machine is asking for problems.

The other issue is that the diesel is heavier and more powerful, but they don't increase the diameter or the length of the log you can cut.

So I don't see any benefit to diesel over gas in this application.
Sorry about that..

And thats understandable..

[ConstSvcs]

If money isnt an issue, I'd go with diesel..

If money really isn't an issue I would go with Wood Mizer :

Not their best model but this on is a great deal:
http://www.woodmizer.com/us/sawmills/manual/lt40/lt40.aspx

Here is their Super Hydraulic with Kubota diesel in action:

[ConstSvcs]

I don't see the benefit of diesel. The unit in the video was gas and it was tearing through some huge logs fast. 200 board feet of lumber in 15 minutes.

At .50 a board foot that's $400 an hour.

$27,495/400=68 hours and the machine has paid for itself.

.50 per board foot is the rate Timberking recommends a sawyer charge for custom milling.

Most sawyers around my area charge by the hour and not per B.F. Both sawyers that have sawed for me in the past are both charging $65 per hour my usual for two 7 hr days of sawing is $1,100 which includes two hours of travel time and one blade.

[Hanau]

What worries me is the cutting head is only supported on one side. Won't that bend/warp over time?

The B-20 has 4 posts holding the cutting head up.

[ConstSvcs]

What worries me is the cutting head is only supported on one side. Won't that bend/warp over time?

The B-20 has 4 posts holding the cutting head up.

No problems that I've heard of. Wood Mizer is the leader in the portable mill industry. VERY well constructed and designed as a production mill.
here are a few more images:

[Gravel Rat]

This is the best mill you can buy it takes more skill to run and it does produce a little more waste (sawdust) but it is the most reliable saw on the market. Nobody can beat it for production you can cut 2x4s etc in one pass. A bandsaw mill can't do that. A bandsaw mill isn't accurate compared to a mobile dimensional saw. What my old man could cut with his mobile saw would wasn't even possible with a bandsaw mill.

www.mobilemfg.com/products/index.html

If you want a bandsaw mill you only buy a woodmizer anything else is a POS.

It is going to take atleast a year before you make any production with a band mill. You have to learn how to read the wood. It isn't as simple as it looks. Get a log with wind twist it releases that twist when it gets cut the blade binds up and snaps. You get wood that has sand in the bark it kills your blade. In one day you could snap a couple blades.

Using a bandsaw mill is lots of physical work. Once you have made a pass with the blade you have to lift the chunk of wood you cut off the log.

I have worked with a bandsaw mill it is back busting work especially if the log your cutting is water logged. The lumber your cutting can be over 100 pounds a piece.

You take a log cut it into a cant. The cant is what ever width lumber you want. You cut the thickness of the lumber with each pass through the cant.

If you think your going to get rich with a mill its not going to happen :laugh: