20 zone system

[EagleLandscape]

started this today. trenched, and hand dug today. hoping to have it piped in tomorrow. raining off and on tomorrow:(

http://www.lawnsite.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=165850&stc=1&d=1256773480

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[irritation]

Looks plowable to me.

[Mike Leary]

Yess......hope that's sch 40.

[EagleLandscape]

pppsssshhh, class 200/315

[EagleLandscape]

Looks plowable to me.

can you plow a 3" NDS flex drain pipe, 1 1/4 mainline, and 3/4 lateral in one plow??

[irritation]

Would never put them in the same trench.

[EagleLandscape]

irrigation plan. also added an additional zone in the backyard to throw even further out.

PLAN HERE (http://www.lawnsite.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=165490&d=1256501257)

[EagleLandscape]

Would never put them in the same trench.

...when your trench is wide enough to:)

[irritation]

...poor guys lawn.. probably take years to lose the trench lines and I feel sorry for a service tech who might have to work on it.

[mitchgo]

I HIGHLY Disagree with putting a drain line and a Main Line in the same trench.

[SoCalLandscapeMgmt]

I disagree with that practice to. That's some hack work there.

[irritation]

probably dozens of 6" econo boxes scattered everywhere ... never find them after a couple years.
Oh, just follow the trench lines and probe and probe and....

[Kiril]

No problem here putting solid drain line in the same ditch, as long as it is not stacked on top or under the irrigation pipe. Lay the drain to one side of the irrigation trench on a shelf, allowing for enough room for future work on the irrigation lines without damaging the drainage pipe.

BTW ..... 1 1/4" line? Why didn't you bump it up to 1 1/2" to keep the stuff in a "standard" size?

[EagleLandscape]

JK, should have told sooner we arent putting flex drain in same trench. But it was fun while it lasted:)

When we properly compact the trench, (if it was warm summer weather) the trench would be fully grown in with turf on top in 2 months tops.

Supply houses don't even sell poly here, so don't go down that stupid road again.

Nope, each valve in its own 10" round valve box (1" valve). Wire splices into controller and drip zones are in rectangular box. All boxes filled with gravel at the base. 14 ga. wire, not thermostat cheap crap.

Don't need 1 1/2 pipe. 70psi, 1" meter, looped mainline. Plus, 1 1/4 I can cut with pipe cutters, 1.5" needs a pvc saw.

customer will get an as built drawing with accurate locations of valve boxes anyways:)

None of this manifold crap, sticking 10 lateral lines in one trench. what a repair nightmare!

[Mike Leary]

Plus, 1 1/4 I can cut with pipe cutters, 1.5" needs a pvc saw.

Yup, sure saves a lot of flushing, those burrs can be a huge pain.

[Kiril]

Don't need 1 1/2 pipe. 70psi, 1" meter, looped mainline. Plus, 1 1/4 I can cut with pipe cutters, 1.5" needs a pvc saw.

Come on JD, you can't be serious.

http://www.sprinkler.com/buy/item/pipe_cutters/4137

Yup, sure saves a lot of flushing, those burrs can be a huge pain.

Yea, if you don't clean them off like you should. :rolleyes:

[EagleLandscape]

No way am I going to spend 100 on pipe cutters. the increase in that + increased cost in pipe & fittings.

my pressure is fine, plus 1 1/4 is a widely used mainline size here for residential.

not alot of 1.5".

either 1.25 or 2" typically for residential - medium commercial.

IT NEEDS TO STOP RAINING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

...poor guys lawn.. probably take years to lose the trench lines and I feel sorry for a service tech who might have to work on it.

We don't have bunch grass in TX. St Aug and Bermuda will cover a properly water soaked ditch pretty fast. The secret or effort is in the rake cleanup. Get that little lip on the edge of the ditch sides. Also helps if nobody steps on the dirt. One of my many pet peeves are people that are too lazy or fat to take a giant step over the ditch and pack the soil into the turf with their clodhoppers.

I kept a REED pipe cutter similar to a copper cutter for large 1.5 and above pipe. Had it for 30+ years. I think Henry has it now.

http://www.reedmfgco.com/index.html?screen=quick_release_tubing_cutters

[EagleLandscape]

Henry and I went and ate pizza & some shiners the other night at http://www.urbancrust.com/

Peter, it is a must visit when you are back in Dallas.

We had cheese pizza, with fries on top. really good actually!

[Mike Leary]

Nice work, John. :clapping:

[Wet_Boots]

Wheeler's ratchet cutter could just manage 1-1/2 inch poly. Not sure about PVC.

[EagleLandscape]

Also, forgive me for the blue and paint on the turf. I have been teaching one of my maintenance guys (Raul) to do irrigation repair, and install all summer long. He trenched some on the rain water catchment tank house in lewisville we are currently on (giant mud pit), and I had him trench this job as well.

I have realized the more time I actually spend doing the work, the less I make. The more I can get them on auto pilot (have them become knowledgeable to make decisions on their own, while being educated and equipped to do so), the more successful we will be, the happier they will be, and the more money I will make.

[ARGOS]

I have a couple of the 2" ratching cutters. Cost $75 at supply house. It is hard to cut 1 1/2 with them, but possible. You have to lever off the ground. I still use the lenox saw for 1 1/2".

However I like to use them on 1" pipe because they slice through it like butter. What I don't like about the 2" inch is that they do not open automatically, you have to pull the levers apart. Unlike the 1" apollo pipe cutter that has a spring loaded return.

[EagleLandscape]

pack the soil into the turf with their clodhoppers.


...like so?

[Inspired]

Come on JD, you can't be serious.

http://www.sprinkler.com/buy/item/pipe_cutters/4137


I love my Victors. I have a pair for 1" and under in my tool box that are 12 years old. Granted, I haven't used them as much the last 5 or 6 years and they weren't $95 dollars when I bought them. Still, they are great pipe cutters.

I worked with a guy once that used nothing but those copper tubing cutters like Peter posted. He was pretty fast at it and swore he got a better glue joint. Whatever.

[1idejim]

john

the quality of these tools along with the ease of repair makes the cutters well worth their price.

i must own at least 6 or 8 pair, these are in my shop right now for new springs and blades, they must be 3-4 yrs old.

[hoskm01]

Good 'ol Victors!

[MEXANDME]

List Price = $83.95

Your Price = $95.77 ???????????????????


Regards,

Mex

[hoskm01]

List Price = $83.95

Your Price = $95.77 ???????????????????


Regards,

Mex
HAHA, thats awesome! Either they transposed those two prices to their respective category, or they are very up-front about their markup.:laugh:

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

...like so?

Yuuuk has it quit raining there? I need a month dry spell.

[EagleLandscape]

Yes Peter, we have 10+ days without rain. Balls to the wall, we are going to knock out some work this next week. My guys work Sunday's alot, but I'm even working tomorrow to get caught up. Don't like working Sundays myself, but with the weather, I ahve no other choice.

[AI Inc]

Ive been known to work a 1/2 day un a Sunday this time of yr. Knowing my 3 month vaca starts in 2 weeks.