Job choices?

[stxkyboy]

I am curious how many of you guys would leave the dirt biz if you were offered a job that pay 300-500 thousand a year. The job would be totally stable, fairly long hours, indoors but not cubical work, so still stimulating. You could still be your own boss but not have all the hassles associated with the survival of small bizs.

This isn't a what if you won the lottery type question.

What if you had to make that type of career decision what would you have chosen? what would you choose now?

[wanabe]

Give me the # to call for that job! I would not even think twice!

[Junior M]

Umm.... that'd be a hard one, I guess it'd depend on how business was doing at the time the job was offered..

[Gravel Rat]

You have to keep in mind money isn't everything. What ever is paying you that kind of money can't be legal or it is very high stress.

I'am in a situation the job is steady year round and it is a decent wage but I hate the job.

If your doing what you want to do stick with it.

[stxkyboy]

Let's say the decision was whether to pursue the dirt business or this job. You hadn't necessarily started in either yet.

[Junior M]

Let's say the decision was whether to pursue the dirt business or this job. You hadn't necessarily started in either yet.
I dont know, like GR said, its all about what makes you happy, money can try to but it doesnt keep you happy in the long run!

[Bleed Green]

I would say it would depend on stress levels and just what you liked to do more. Money is not everything. Being happy and doing what I want to be doing is what I would go for.

[Dirtman2007]

Honestly I'd probably stay with what I'm doing, the money would be very tempting but then again it you don't like what your doing no amount can fix that. I've done this kind of work my entire life, I love it, no need to change it if you can help it.

[Bleed Green]

The more I think about it, I look at it is I love being outside whether it be working or recreation. If I was forced to work in an office I would not be happy. Therefore like Chris said if you don't like what you are doing no amount of money can fix that.

[jefftb]

Interesting question. Just today having lunch with my right hand man. We got to discussing one of his friends from the old neighborhood who had made some very lucky choices in life. He described him as hard working with average intelligence.

This guy is now a minority owner (30%) of a major contractor. Company does about $40M/year. This guy gets a salary, bonus on the profitability and a very generous car allowance (more than some people's mortgage).

He described him formerly as a very funny, happy and outgoing person. He was formerly a very competent lead super on a construction crew-making a decent salary. He said he was a guy you enjoyed being around on jobsites; could do his job and make the project stay on schedule all without being an A**.

Now, he says he's never happy, his marriage is a shell of its former self, and the guy works constantly with a major stress factor. In short, he's now a very unhappy person and someone that brings or shows no joy.

My guy's final words, "yeah, I'm sure the two expensive houses, nice cars, and money could be nice. But if that's part of the life that goes with it, leave me out."

[AintNoFun]

You have to keep in mind money isn't everything. What ever is paying you that kind of money can't be legal or it is very high stress.

I'am in a situation the job is steady year round and it is a decent wage but I hate the job.

If your doing what you want to do stick with it.



really? this is the first im hearing about your dislike of your job. hahaha

[AWJ Services]

Anyone want some good deals on equipment?

The dirt Biz would be a distant memory.:dancing:

[bobcat_ron]

300-500 thousand a year. The job would be totally stable, fairly long hours, indoors but not cubical work, so still stimulating.



That would fall into the high priced man-ho job position, complete with a bleached mangina.


Give me a non-economic based job, like a funeral director or mortician.

[Gravel Rat]

When you start making that kind of money you might aswell say good bye to your friends. The jealousy starts and people begging you for money. Then what do you do with half a million a year salary.

The most amount of money you want to make is to put a roof over your head and feed your familly if you have one and live a comfortable life.

Money is evil it ruins famillies, people fight over money etc and making lots of it never makes a person happy.

Another thing more money you make the deeper in debt you get. I'am not kidding either.

[EcoGreen Services]

A guy I grew up with became a commodities trader. He made HUGE Money. Over $700,000 some years..
Always Stressed, He could never come down even after work.

3 Divorces.

Died a few years ago at 38.

I've got a couple bucks in the bank, A roof over my head, food on the table, Still got my health and just had my 20th anniversary with the best woman on the planet.

Money isn't everything.

[DeereMan85]

When you start making that kind of money you might aswell say good bye to your friends. The jealousy starts and people begging you for money. Then what do you do with half a million a year salary.

The most amount of money you want to make is to put a roof over your head and feed your familly if you have one and live a comfortable life.

Money is evil it ruins famillies, people fight over money etc and making lots of it never makes a person happy.

Another thing more money you make the deeper in debt you get. I'am not kidding either.

Sounds like you must have some awesome friends. I would never hang out with the type of person who would ask for money in the first place.

If I had the opportunity to take a job like that I'd do it in a heartbeat. Spend several years becoming debt free and saving up a nest egg. At that point I could walk away to find a job I enjoy or start my own business. Of course, this plan would take a lot of financial discipline, so it wouldn't be for everyone.

The way I look at it, money may not buy happiness, but complete financial freedom would eliminate many of the things that can make life miserable at times. If you can resist the temptation to live the high life and actually save your money, a job like that could be one hell of an opportunity.

[Gravel Rat]

I don't think there is such thing as financial freedom the gov't takes it from you :laugh:

[mudmaker]

Anyone want some good deals on equipment?

The dirt Biz would be a distant memory.:dancing:

That makes two of us!!

If anything keep the equipment go work the 3-400k/yr job for 5 years. Live like I do now still, quit the job and go back to the self employed situation in a much better financial position.

BTW the fact that a job is stable is not one to bank on! I know way too many people who put their hearts and souls into a "stable" job only to end up in an unemployment line. The only thing in life that is certain is it is uncertain.

edit: Deereman said it well!

[SiteSolutions]

If you haven't started down either path yet, why not try out the big bucks route for a year or two. If I had that salary for one year, I could be out of debt and have money to live on during slow times... although I would probably blow a lot of it on taking my wife out to dinner and a cruise every three months.

[stuvecorp]

I am curious how many of you guys would leave the dirt biz if you were offered a job that pay 300-500 thousand a year. The job would be totally stable, fairly long hours, indoors but not cubical work, so still stimulating. You could still be your own boss but not have all the hassles associated with the survival of small bizs.

This isn't a what if you won the lottery type question.

What if you had to make that type of career decision what would you have chosen? what would you choose now?

If you don't do it, I will.

After ten years of this I've about had it with dirt work.

[AWJ Services]

You guys act like this buisness is a bed of roses with no headaches or stress?
You also act like this buisness has no responsibilty?
It really makes me wonder if I am working in a completly different field then you guys are?:waving:

[Junior M]

You guys act like this buisness is a bed of roses with no headaches or stress?
You also act like this buisness has no responsibilty?
It really makes me wonder if I am working in a completly different field then you guys are?:waving:
must be a pretty crappy business..

[mudmaker]

You guys act like this buisness is a bed of roses with no headaches or stress?
You also act like this buisness has no responsibilty?
It really makes me wonder if I am working in a completly different field then you guys are?:waving:


I think some people have a fantasy about everything being perfect if you work for yourself! You control your time, vacation whenever you want, nobody bossing you around. Would be nice if that were the case!!

[RockSet N' Grade]

Been there done that.......twice. I guess that is what you get by surviving and getting to be mid-life age. In short - first instance: offered a brokerage job starting at $250k just turning commissions. Turned it down because it went against my basic core value system, yet still pursued my passion of the markets to this day - doing it my way. That was an instance of a "choice". Second time came a little later... (the first one was at the age of 19 yrs. old). I became a contractor and was struggling to make bills....went bankrupt and was living off visa making minimum payments with mastercard. Decided I loved this business/lifestyle/creative work and hired a book keeper to juggle my balancing act while I went out and worked like a dog. Real long story short, my book keeper still works with me after 34 or so years in the business.......from being worse than broke, I surpassed my wildest expectations business wise. I am still alive, love what I do and would not change a thing. So, the real question to me is: would I trade my passion for a dollar? Nope......

[bobcat_ron]

It's not how much you make, it's how much you take.

[ShawnH]

I went from being self employed in real estate and building houses to working for an oil company because I figured it would be nice to have a steady check making six figures and less stress. Turned out that I had to give up my freedom for it and missed one of my best friends weddings, Christmas last year and Thanksgiving. Then as the oilfield slowed down I was in constant fear of getting laid off then eventually it happend the company I worked for laid off around 70 of us over a 2-3 month period. Its easy when you work for someone else to get a false sense of stability.

Since I have been home I have been running hard with the old 289 Mulching and doing other odd jobs and loving every minute of it nothing like working for yourself. I just hope I can pick up the pace and get more work to come my way. :walking:

[ksss]

I hear this one the other day. "Working for yourself is great. You get to work half days, and you even get to pick whether its the first 12 hours of the day or the last." Thought that was kinda funny. It be even funnier if the days were only 12 hours long.

As far as the question at hand.

I would keep a CASE skid steer to plow my drive in the Winter and tinker with as far as the rest of it. I couldn't get it on IP fast enough. Thats assuming that the 3-500K job was something I wanted to do. If I wanted I can buy my stuff back and get into dirt work again, I certainly could.

I love what I do, but if said new job I liked as well and it paid up to 500K how do you not do it.

[stuvecorp]

Been there done that.......twice. I guess that is what you get by surviving and getting to be mid-life age. In short - first instance: offered a brokerage job starting at $250k just turning commissions. Turned it down because it went against my basic core value system, yet still pursued my passion of the markets to this day - doing it my way. That was an instance of a "choice". Second time came a little later... (the first one was at the age of 19 yrs. old). I became a contractor and was struggling to make bills....went bankrupt and was living off visa making minimum payments with mastercard. Decided I loved this business/lifestyle/creative work and hired a book keeper to juggle my balancing act while I went out and worked like a dog. Real long story short, my book keeper still works with me after 34 or so years in the business.......from being worse than broke, I surpassed my wildest expectations business wise. I am still alive, love what I do and would not change a thing. So, the real question to me is: would I trade my passion for a dollar? Nope......

I'm gonna ponder on that some tomorrow.

[YellowDogSVC]

I've thought about this before. I was recently offered a job that would end up in the high 100's and room to advance with plenty of fun on the job but it meant less time at home with the family. I turned it down. I like being a free spirit, being creative, and more than anything, I like being needed and having time to take care of my family. Money can't replace that but I'm happy that things are going pretty good at my age and the sky is the limit.

[Caterkillar]

When you start making that kind of money you might aswell say good bye to your friends. The jealousy starts and people begging you for money. Then what do you do with half a million a year salary.

The most amount of money you want to make is to put a roof over your head and feed your familly if you have one and live a comfortable life.

Money is evil it ruins famillies, people fight over money etc and making lots of it never makes a person happy.

Another thing more money you make the deeper in debt you get. I'am not kidding either.

Your real friends don't give a damn what you make GR.

Money is not evil. It can make life more pleasant. If you correlate the amount of money you have to your self worth... then it can get ugly.

I have found there is a difference between people that create a business from the ground up or have worked all there life to become wealthy and people that just walk into money.

[Caterkillar]

You guys act like this buisness is a bed of roses with no headaches or stress?
You also act like this buisness has no responsibilty?
It really makes me wonder if I am working in a completly different field then you guys are?:waving:

You might be one of the few actually trying to turn a profit instead working for beer money.

I have come to realize there is not really any "easy money." I think 99% of most high paying jobs are going to require long hours and have alot of stress.

[YellowDogSVC]

When you start making that kind of money you might aswell say good bye to your friends. The jealousy starts and people begging you for money. Then what do you do with half a million a year salary.

The most amount of money you want to make is to put a roof over your head and feed your familly if you have one and live a comfortable life.

Money is evil it ruins famillies, people fight over money etc and making lots of it never makes a person happy.

Another thing more money you make the deeper in debt you get. I'am not kidding either.

GR, you are so wrong on this my friend. You have the wrong attitude about a lot of things. The more money you make, the more you can give. Most divorces are over money fights. Learn to control the money, and your life will be more harmonious in many other aspects.

You can do at least three positive things with money. Save, have fun, and give.

If people are jealous and begging for money, they have no boundaries and you don't need that in your life anyway.

[Gravel Rat]

Around here if you make that kind of money you don't have friends that make less. You have friends that make the same kind of money.

There is a big split in this area with the haves and have nots.

You have the Rich and the Poor no middle class anymore. The working poor is anybody that makes less than 100 grand a year.

The people with money around here are really flaunting it now buying property for million dollars then building a million dollar plus summer cabin. Build a big fancy house and live in it 2 months out of the year.

Would I want a job that you make half million dollars a year the answer is no.

[Caterkillar]

Around here if you make that kind of money you don't have friends that make less. You have friends that make the same kind of money.

There is a big split in this area with the haves and have nots.

You have the Rich and the Poor no middle class anymore. The working poor is anybody that makes less than 100 grand a year.

The people with money around here are really flaunting it now buying property for million dollars then building a million dollar plus summer cabin. Build a big fancy house and live in it 2 months out of the year.

Would I want a job that you make half million dollars a year the answer is no.

In alot of cases, I don't think it is about money. I think people that are successful want to be around people with the same mindset. They want to be around people that are positive, risk takers, creative, people that make things happen. You want to surround yourself with people that make you better.

It sounds like you are jealous GR. Hell a second home right now might be a better investment than the stock market especially if you could get it to cash flow.

No offense, but I would never hang out with you GR and it has nothing to do with money. You are negative, refuse good advice, and are really on a path to absolute mediocrity.

[Gravel Rat]

I can see if you owned the company and your making half million dollars a year that is a different story. If your a employee making that your really not earning it you do what your told and that is what your paid.

Myself no I'am not jealous I don't need that kind of money. H*ll people are jealous that I have a full time job and I make 40 grand a year.

[Caterkillar]

I can see if you owned the company and your making half million dollars a year that is a different story. If your a employee making that your really not earning it you do what your told and that is what your paid.

What? If an employee is making 500k... you are definately producing some type of incredibly favorable results. Don't live in lala land GR and fall for the media generated hype that all rich people do is play golf and fly around in leer jets. It is not true... they work hard, take big risks, and probably have made incredible sacrifices to get where they are.

[mudmaker]

I can see if you owned the company and your making half million dollars a year that is a different story. If your a employee making that your really not earning it you do what your told and that is what your paid.


Whether you are making 40k or 500k you better be accomplishing something to justify your income. Unless you work for the govt!!LOL!

[Gravel Rat]

No people are jealous because I have a full time guaranteed job. I'am employeed while others are not and struggling to make a living with this sh!tty economy.

As I said before I have no choice where I live unless I want to be frigging broke. Can't afford to pay 1200 a month in rent h*ll that is half months pay.

The stupid ****ing retired rich people moving into the area don't want any industry what so ever, they poo pooed another project that would have create jobs. It probably would have been atleast 2 years worth of work for a bunch of contractors.

All the people want is no industry they want their retirement house they want no noise they want no progress. H*ll they b*tch about the neighbours house being built because its causing noise.

Hello if there is no industries left in a comunity how is a person that is my age supposed to survive. They can't survive here anymore it has gone from a place where you raise your familly place to a place for the rich who can afford the million dollar house and tell the younger generation to get out we don't want you here.

Where generations of famillies grew up have been driven out by people with money. People my age that left can't come back their is no work for them and they definatly can't afford to buy a house here anymore.

Lets put it this way people with money are ruining areas that used to be dominated by the working class people. They worked hard for their living and the people created a community. Now it is stupid rich idiots with big city attitudes driving up home prices to millionaire prices and push the people that created the community out. In another couple years time 95% of the population in the area will be 60 and older. If the newbies moving to the area get their way you won't see anything the causes noise or creates jobs.

Well enough ranting.

[grassmanvt]

Some make excuses, some make things happen...

[mudmaker]

Economies change. You either sit and whine about the change or figure out how to adjust your operation to take advantage of the new markets. Those million dollar homes are built and maintained by someone. More than likely they dont maintain their own property if it is a vacation home. Those people are bringing a lot of money into your local economy. You can either capitalize on it or just complain.

I know one thing, with a negative attitude toward people with money to spend you are going to have a hard time getting work from them.

[coopers]

There's a helluva a lot to consider in making a decision this big. Not sure anyone on here can give you all the answers you need to make that decision. It's something you'll need to figure out yourself. No one here knows you and what makes you tick. In two years the $500K job could be a very bad decision or it could be your savior. Who knows. Try to think of all the possible outcomes (I know it's hard to think of everything) and how it will effect you and others around you. Everyone's situation here is unique, that is why some say they'd leave in a heart beat and others wouldn't leave without some serious considerations (maybe not leave at all regardless of the prizes). Good luck.

[Gravel Rat]

For myself I'am lucky to have a job. Another forestry town lost its employeer another 500 people out of a job.

One thing about it Obama is doing well for the USA you guys are now over 12 Trillion dollars in debt :dizzy:

The province I live in has a problem and it is a gov't spending tax money on the winter olympics. I'am not laughing I'am wondering what in the h*ll is going to happen after this 2 week event in February is over.

Ohwell I have to stick with what I have. Atleast I have a job my paycheck comes every two weeks. Anybody in construction prays every night hoping they get a paycheck, anybody in the excavation business prays that the repo man can't find them.

The one thing the USA gov't is screwing the forestry in Canada is paper production. I guess Obama is removing the taxes from pulp mills in the USA so they can survive. That inturn is undercutting the prices of paper like newsprint etc. Obama is doing it because paper manufactures in the USA are not as efficient as Canadian producers. The US gov't is loosing lots of tax money to keep people employeed.

Same with the sawmills in the USA they are slower can't produce the volume of wood so the cost of lumber is considerably higher. The US gov't slapped high import taxes on Canadian lumber to make it cost more so US lumber suppliers could compete. Now to build a house in the USA costs more because you lumber costs more that killed your housing market. You could buy lumber milled in B.C. and sold in the USA cheaper than we can buy here.

Eventually thou nothing will be made in the USA everything you guys buy in the USA will be made in China or Mexico.

The one economic indicator is scrap metal. I'am not joking.

The price of scrap metal is falling faster than a e****ion. The price of scrap cars went from close to 200 a ton now it is at 68 dollars a ton that is in the last 6 months. Scrap cars is what rebar is made from. There was such a demand overseas for shredded steel to be made into rebar, old vehicals were hauled off to the junk yards quicker than you could blink.

The other scrap metals are dropping in price too the market has fallen fast. Prices have dropped 40 dollars a ton each week.

Back to the original topic

Sometimes you have to do what you don't want to do to make a living. I worked for $ 8.50 per hour to have a job you can make more money collecting welfare. It was good experience but it sucks to make 68 dollars a day.

[mudmaker]

So what do you do for a living GR??

[Hanau]

Wait until 2012 GR.

We're going to elect Jeb Bush president.

"Bush & Sons, Taking America to War Since 1990"

First thing we're going to do is annex Canada. BC will be the 51st state of the US.

Then our $12 trillion debt, will also be your debt.

Boy oh boy will you have a lot to complain about in 2012.

[Gravel Rat]

I work for a gov't company and that is pretty much all I can say.

Lets put it this way your not treated like a person and they don't listen to the ideas you have. You are a employee number and thats it do what your told and shut up.

I was looking at the classifieds the other day and one of the landscape companies is looking for workers. I thought about it. One of the job requirments is truck driver and equipment operator. I do know the company a little bit I know the owner is a little on the tough side to work for. It is making me hedge on putting my name in. If I was un-employeed ya I would try it but I can't be chancing it quiting a full time job right now. Ya I'am thinking about it but this company seems to have a change in employees often.

[RockSet N' Grade]

Caterkiller.........all your replies are well put and thought out from my perspective. Don't be too hard on GrovelingRot, he continues to remain the flagship of what not to do in all aspects and is a good bench mark.

[Mjh Excavating]

There really could not be that much more stress in life than running your own business. I look at it as good stress though, it is for MY cause not someone elses. To collect a paycheck like that every week probably would be pretty nice. While owning your own business does not entitle you to golf and fishing everyday, it does have the small rewards that I look forward to like picking up my kids from daycare early once in a while. GR, the only thing I can say to your comments (other than they make me sick) is NO RISK,NO REWARD!!! I quit a union Operating Engineers position to take up my business, got married, built a house, and had my first child (all in that order) all in the same year. NO RISK, NO REWARD (OH WELL, STICK WITH WHAT YOU GOT)

[Caterkillar]

Caterkiller.........all your replies are well put and thought out from my perspective. Don't be too hard on GrovelingRot, he continues to remain the flagship of what not to do in all aspects and is a good bench mark.

I saw a quote on a local business sign that said, "Some people's mere purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others."

[Mjh Excavating]

I saw a quote on a local business sign that said, "Some people's mere purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others."

excellent quote

[Caterkillar]

There really could not be that much more stress in life than running your own business. I look at it as good stress though, it is for MY cause not someone elses. To collect a paycheck like that every week probably would be pretty nice. While owning your own business does not entitle you to golf and fishing everyday, it does have the small rewards that I look forward to like picking up my kids from daycare early once in a while. GR, the only thing I can say to your comments (other than they make me sick) is NO RISK,NO REWARD!!! I quit a union Operating Engineers position to take up my business, got married, built a house, and had my first child (all in that order) all in the same year. NO RISK, NO REWARD (OH WELL, STICK WITH WHAT YOU GOT)

"No risk, no reward" is right on the money. I just signed a note for a 500k property in a terrible economy. When the market comes back and I make 100-200k, people like Gravel Rat are going to resent me. But they will never see the years of saving for the downpayment, preparing, market research, and a few sleepless nights.

GR, it is ok to live in your mom's basement and work a gov'ment job, but don't you dare hold rich people's success against them. You clearly have no idea the incredible sacrifice it takes to become wealthy.

[Mjh Excavating]

I don't think I slept that year, lot of "what was i thinking":)

[mudmaker]

I work for a gov't company and that is pretty much all I can say.



That makes explains where your view of cutting taxes and saving jobs equating to less money for the govt is coming from.

[Gravel Rat]

That makes explains where your view of cutting taxes and saving jobs equating to less money for the govt is coming from.

With the pulp mills in the USA and your gov't cutting taxes I forget the figure but it was well over couple million dollars in taxes. This is so the american paper makers can compete in the market.

If the mills in the USA were modern they could compete and your mills don't have the wood supply.

Obama has all kinds of things like that to try make the USA buy nothing but American goods. The problem with that is it costs you guys more.

The first thing would be stop letting big companies move to places like Mexico for cheap labour.

The biggest worry for you guys in the USA is you guys or the gov't owes China 800 billion dollars and 724 billion dollars to Japan. When your gov't owes that kind of money to those countries not good.

[mudmaker]

funny you say we should stop letting companies move to Mexico. NAFTA has allowed companies to set up shop in Mexico, but if you stop that then the other major beneficiary will suffer as well, Canada. The Ag and Timber industry in Canada ships a lot of crap down here because of NAFTA. You are right about the debt being bad! It is terrible. I think there is a segment of our society which is trying to bankrupt the US.

[tnmtn]

i had a 6 figure job when i started my bussiness. after a couple years part time i went full time. my timing couldn't have been worse. it was almost like our economy was waiting for me to give up security. somehow, i am still in bussiness and slowly expanding. each year i have done more sales. if by chance the economy gets better i think i will be sitting pretty. if not and things turn south i will head back offshore but will always be glad for the time and experiance of this adventure.

[Gravel Rat]

I was reading in the paper today that China wants to export billions of dollars of cheap junk to the USA. That isn't good because manufacturing in the USA goes out the window.

We don't need the cheap chinese crap in North America. The USA is already importing 187 billion dollars worth of goods into the country.

[stxkyboy]

Well this thread has kinda taken off in the few days since I have left it. Thanks for all the productive responses. I think is great that so many of you guys are doing things you truly love. The long and short of it is I am in medical school. Medical school a rather difficult adventure and it is hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel. It is made more difficult because I have something that I truly enjoy doing...anything with dirt.

I want to thank Gravel rat for provided his usual ignorant whine. The majority...the vast majority of the wealthy get their because the work hard, and the risks they take. You spend so much time whining and chasing your own tail how could you succeed? Quit blaming those who have made it and start blaming yourself.


This is what those rich people who have everything just handed to them have to do: 7.5 inches of notes most of it two PowerPoint slides per page front and back. Oh and you have to have literally everything memorized:cry: Cumulative final three days after the last test.

[Gravel Rat]

Why didn't you say that you were in medical school in the first place ?

There is more demand for people in medical field than dirt workers.

Who knows some day you might be treating some of the members here when they get old. Walk into your doctors office with incontinence their diaper overflowing :laugh:

As for me being ignorant thats the way I'am but atleast I'am not a american citizen. No offence but Americans are not well liked anywhere but the USA. I get to meet and talk to many tourists from all over the world and the first thing that comes out of their mouth is atleast this isn't the USA.

Anyhow I don't have that opinion.

Keep working for your medical degree.

[Gravel Rat]

I wanted to add I have worked for quite a few rich people that 2-3 million dollars is pocket change. They usually own 3 or more properties in the 2 million each.

[Caterkillar]

Well this thread has kinda taken off in the few days since I have left it. Thanks for all the productive responses. I think is great that so many of you guys are doing things you truly love. The long and short of it is I am in medical school. Medical school a rather difficult adventure and it is hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel. It is made more difficult because I have something that I truly enjoy doing...anything with dirt.

I want to thank Gravel rat for provided his usual ignorant whine. The majority...the vast majority of the wealthy get their because the work hard, and the risks they take. You spend so much time whining and chasing your own tail how could you succeed? Quit blaming those who have made it and start blaming yourself.


This is what those rich people who have everything just handed to them have to do: 7.5 inches of notes most of it two PowerPoint slides per page front and back. Oh and you have to have literally everything memorized:cry: Cumulative final three days after the last test.

Good for you. I hope you succeed and become one of those evil rich people. Of course, the medical field may not be so rewarding if it becomes gov't run. You may want to become a veterinarian.

[jefftb]

Good for you. I hope you succeed and become one of those evil rich people. Of course, the medical field may not be so rewarding if it becomes gov't run. You may want to become a veterinarian.

Wholeheartedly agree. Being a vet today may just be the better golden ticket. Nearly zero liability (for now), little available cost comparisons coupled directly to higher compensation due to people acting as if FIDO or tabby the cat are a family member entitled to the same status as children and vying for the discretionary income of their owners.

I think the best choice right now is the Anesthesiologist Assistant. Major dollars and little liability costs since the big Anesth handles the heavy lifting on the liability insurance.

[mdlwn1]

Podiatrist..............