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Gravel Rat
11-06-2009, 09:06 PM
Well my F-450 needed steer tires and there is snow predicted.
The Toyo tires I had on the truck didn't last long oh well they are cheap jap crap :cry:
I only got 19,472 kilometers (12,099 miles) out of them they had 3/32s over the wear bars and were very slippery in the rain. Not impressed with the Toyo's they didn't wear well and they really wandered all over the road and it got worse as the tire wore. They did better than the Bridgestones they replaced the Bridgestones only got 17,880kms (11,110 miles)
This time I bought Michelins XZE I have used Michelin tires in the past for 16 inch tires I'am trying the 225/70R19.5. People swear buy Michelin I do aswell when I was running 16 inch tires.
First off all my fist impression wow I should have bought them the first time back in 2007 when I bought the truck. Now I can let go of the steering wheel and it wants to track straight the Toyos would put you in the ditch. Very firm and ride nice the steering is also very percise no wandering what so ever.
With 19.5 tires they take a little while to break in usually these Michelins are already broke in no tread squirm.
The XZE is a highway tire they say its long wearing we will have to see. If I break the 20,000km (12,428 mile) mark I will be happier than a pig in chit.
I'am 857 dollars poorer but I had no choice the truck needed tires I had a good scare at 5am heading to work went into a corner and the front end let go. Hydroplaning is a big problem hit one little puddle with the tires and no steering.
it is still cheaper than the newer pickup trucks with the 18 inch rubber they are even more expensive. You start buying 18-19 inch rubber for F-250-350 pickups your looking at 350-400 dollars a tire.
My neighbour down the road uses nothing but Michelin on his F-550 4x4 but he is running XDS2 (traction) he put new skins on his truck 3 months ago cost him 2500 dollars to do all 6 tires.
I read on the internet that people get 50,000 miles out of 19.5 tires I don't know how that is possible. So 12,000 miles is the best I have gotten so far :drinkup:
So anybody with a truck say a 450-550 4500-5500 Chevy or Dodge look at Michelins I don't think you will be disapointed with them. Far better than Goods*** I mean Goodyear they have to be the worst. I know the guys with 4500-5500 Chevy trucks are tossing the Goodyears that came on the trucks from the factory they are not happy with them.
Hanau
11-06-2009, 09:12 PM
With a mixture of relief and disappointment I clicked on this thread and did not find a You Porn video of Gravel Rat with a BC sheep.
Junior M
11-06-2009, 09:18 PM
Even if you did buy the GR, you live in the most god forsaken h#ll hole, there couldnt be any pretty girls. If there were, they wouldnt want some whiny 30yr old who drives an XL F450.. :drinkup: :laugh:
Didnt you just buy front tires, a couple months ago?
Gravel Rat
11-06-2009, 09:31 PM
There is a few memebers on here with trucks that use 225/70R19.5 and the 245/70R19.5 tires. They are expensive to be playing trial and error with.
I will be buying nothing but Michelins for Steers and Ohtsu for drive tires.
If you own a 450 or 550 Ford that has the General or Continental tires they are horrible. No traction in the snow and no grip in the rain.
Guys with new 450-550 that come with the Continental tires from the factory get stuck in 4 wheeldrive because the tires suck azz so bad.
The old General LMT series was just as bad you could get stuck on a banana peal. When I first bought my 03 F-450 back in 2007 the first thing that went was the factory Generals. Horrible tires and very unpredictable. Wet weather the 6.0 would break the duals free climbing a hill. Power on it and you were sideways. Even on dry pavement they sucked I could break them free and start spinning, I can't do that now the Ohtsu's grab and the truck launches.
So anybody with a newer 450-550 with Continental tires want to feel a totally different handling truck get rid of the POS tires.
Like I said the Goodyears that come on the new 4500-5500 trucks are not very good either. You need 4 wheeldrive where you really don't need it.
Even the Conti tires that come on the 250-350 pickups are horrible.
Gravel Rat
11-06-2009, 09:36 PM
Even if you did buy the GR, you live in the most god forsaken h#ll hole, there couldnt be any pretty girls. If there were, they wouldnt want some whiny 30yr old who drives an XL F450.. :drinkup: :laugh:
Didnt you just buy front tires, a couple months ago?
No I bought the Toyos in Aug of 2008 I got 15 months out of them.
As for the girls lots of them but too young for me I can look at the 18-20 year olds :laugh:
I got a problem with the h*rny milfs I'am not after them but they eye ball me :laugh:
castlerockmo
11-06-2009, 11:03 PM
I will tell u a good tire I have on my f-350 dually is the bf goodrich alltreain I got 120,000 out of the drive tires and 80,000 and 90,000 out of the steers
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bobcat_ron
11-06-2009, 11:13 PM
GR doesn't do YouPorn with sheep.
I do it with goats AND sheep.
Baaaaaaaah, dirty deeds done with sheep.
Scag48
11-06-2009, 11:14 PM
Yet another reason not to commute with an F450. So in 12,000 miles, you've spent around $900 in tires? That's depressing.
Shadetree Ltd
11-06-2009, 11:27 PM
If you own a 450 or 550 Ford that has the General or Continental tires they are horrible. No traction in the snow and no grip in the rain.
Guys with new 450-550 that come with the Continental tires from the factory get stuck in 4 wheeldrive because the tires suck azz so bad.
The old General LMT series was just as bad you could get stuck on a banana peal.
Blah, Blah, Blah. I have a 2005 F450 4X4 that tows a 20 foot loaded enclosed trailer for 70% of the time, tows our skid steers around 20% and 10% PLOWING snow in 2WD with the LMT. I have 65,000 kilometers 40,389 miles. Most of our plowing is done in 2WD, ALL of our salting is in 2WD (approximately 500 tonnes has gone through this truck). ONLY because this is one of our primary snowplow units I am replacing the tires this winter. I am actually contemplating just putting these LMT back on the spring to extend the life of the winter tires I get. I need to buy shares in the tire guy in your neighborhood.
bobcat_ron
11-06-2009, 11:27 PM
I've still got original tires on my truck, 50,000+ kms and it works hard every day.
Gravel Rat
11-06-2009, 11:43 PM
No point in buying another vehical to drive and let the 450 sit when I still owe money on it. The loggers are commuting to work in 350 crewcabs those trucks are 70,000 dollar Lariat pickups. They get less mileage out of their tires. I think they are getting 10,000 miles out of the 18 inch rubber.
The twisty roads eats tires especially in the summer time when the pavement is hot. No interstates around here it is 2 lane road with lots of curves. The straightest part of the roads is 1/8th of a mile.
Albertans can't keep any food down after they drive the roads here they are violently car sick. Usually their brakes are roasting hot and they are walking around with chit in their pants :laugh:
Average lifespan of tires on a diesel pickup is no more than 11,000 miles nobody expects much more.
Hanau
11-06-2009, 11:52 PM
Yet another reason not to commute with an F450. So in 12,000 miles, you've spent around $900 in tires? That's depressing.
$900 Canadian, that's about $4.59 US. :usflag:
bobcatuser
11-06-2009, 11:54 PM
Blah, Blah, Blah. I have a 2005 F450 4X4 that tows a 20 foot loaded enclosed trailer for 70% of the time, tows our skid steers around 20% and 10% PLOWING snow in 2WD with the LMT. I have 65,000 kilometers 40,389 miles. Most of our plowing is done in 2WD, ALL of our salting is in 2WD (approximately 500 tonnes has gone through this truck). ONLY because this is one of our primary snowplow units I am replacing the tires this winter. I am actually contemplating just putting these LMT back on the spring to extend the life of the winter tires I get. I need to buy shares in the tire guy in your neighborhood.
Sounds like you are getting ready for snow:clapping: I'm in the same boat. I bought 3 Hiniker Scoop plows to upgrade the fleet.
My 5500 has 69,000 KM on the original Goodyear's, they are getting close to replacement. I'll be putting Michelins on.
bobcatuser
11-07-2009, 12:01 AM
$900 Canadian, that's about $4.59 US. :usflag:
I don't know about that. My plows were cheaper in New York than the dealer here was, even with shipping and exchange rate.
Gravel Rat
11-07-2009, 12:57 AM
Blah, Blah, Blah. I have a 2005 F450 4X4 that tows a 20 foot loaded enclosed trailer for 70% of the time, tows our skid steers around 20% and 10% PLOWING snow in 2WD with the LMT. I have 65,000 kilometers 40,389 miles. Most of our plowing is done in 2WD, ALL of our salting is in 2WD (approximately 500 tonnes has gone through this truck). ONLY because this is one of our primary snowplow units I am replacing the tires this winter. I am actually contemplating just putting these LMT back on the spring to extend the life of the winter tires I get. I need to buy shares in the tire guy in your neighborhood.
You can't buy the General LMT tires anymore only the Continental.
The reason why the General tires get that kind of kilometers out of them is the rubber is so hard. They are a very cheap tire that is why Ford put them on the trucks. The tire shops here all deal with truck tires to off road tires and they all said the General tires are junk it should have been illegal to use them.
There is a big difference between driving around the city to driving on rural roads. How many city streets have S bend and hair pin curves NONE.
I get fleet price on all my tires I buy been buying tires from the same guy for 15 years.
All I can say once you experience how your truck handles with tires other than General or Continental tires you will see what I'am talking about.
I couldn't put up with the Generals loosing traction every corner you take. With the Toyos I had I could do the corners at 70km/h when the truck had Generals the same corner couldn't be any faster than 50km/h.
Sure is a nice feeling the front end sliding on a dry because of cheap crap General tires. They all of a sudden break traction and now your swearving to keep control.
When I used to work for the building supply the F-550 they have had General tires the truck would get stuck put Michelin XDE on the drives no more getting stuck.
The Ohtsu Traction Tires I bought dig through mud and dirt had them in grass it burns right through it. Have to see what they are like in the snow.
Shadetree Ltd
11-07-2009, 02:38 AM
Sounds like you are getting ready for snow I'm in the same boat. I bought 3 Hiniker Scoop plows to upgrade the fleet.
The salters come out on Monday and I pick up Blizzard #5 as well. I have heard nothing but good things about the Michelins. I drove by your truck in the Dunbar area Thursday, nowhere to park so I couldn't stop and say hello.
RockSet N' Grade
11-07-2009, 09:48 AM
I put Michelin steer tires on my big truck and appreciate them. It seems all the cement trucks, and large pit operators all use Michelin steers on their trucks and then it seems anything goes on the rears. Instead of having my tires balanced with lead weights, they threw in a bag of powder of some sort in each tire while mounting. It balances the tire as you are driving and self adjusts.....so far so good. Having good tires on your rig is the cheapest insurance you can get to put the furthest distance between you and the grim reaper.......
Junior M
11-07-2009, 10:50 AM
Yet another reason not to commute with an F450. So in 12,000 miles, you've spent around $900 in tires? That's depressing.
Thats as much as I paid for my DD.. :dizzy:
bobcatuser
11-07-2009, 10:54 AM
The salters come out on Monday and I pick up Blizzard #5 as well. I have heard nothing but good things about the Michelins. I drove by your truck in the Dunbar area Thursday, nowhere to park so I couldn't stop and say hello.
I’ll be out there next Friday, either back filling or digging for the drain tile. If you’re around I’ll buy lunch.:drinkup: Do you leave the salters on the trucks from now on?
Shadetree Ltd
11-07-2009, 06:13 PM
It looks like Tuesday I will be pulling the last bin of concrete out and bringing home the mini x. The salters stay put until mid March. 1 degree is our trigger for our salting contracts so they get good use. The wifes F350 doesn't have a salter (yet...) so I still have a useable pickup.
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