Multiple Stuck Valves ?????

[MEXANDME]

I installed a system back in May of this year using RB DVF 1" valves. There are 11 zones. The system is on a shallow well.

I went there today on a service call and found that no matter which zone I turned on; zones 2, 3, and 4 also tried to come up and obviously there was not enough pressure to run all 4 zones. It is a Hunter Pro-C timer. I pulled the second module in the timer which eliminated zone 4 but it still tried to come up when I turned on another zone.

So, it appears to be "stuck open" valves. Is it common to have 3 out of 11 valves stick open this soon? I do not know the quality of the well water. If the problem is "dirty water," is there some type of in-line filter that can be put at the pump?

To my knowledge, the mainline has not be damaged since installation so I do not think there is dirt, mud, etc. in the mainline.

I am going back tomorrow and am just looking for some advise here before I do.

Thanks / Regards,

Mex

[Without A Drought]

open up the valves and start looking. It is not uncommon for multiple valves to be stuck when it's running off a well.

and yes, there are many types of filters you can install on the main line.

[Armadillolawncare]

Most of the time when I have had valves stuck open or opening with every other zone I have found debris in the valve that was preventing it from closing when its scheduled watering time was done. Clear the debris and it would then operate normally.

[Classic Lighting]

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[AI Inc]

Is there a master valve ( im assuming so) If so , dont touch the clock , open the master valve manualy. See what happens. It would appear you have shat in those valves and probably building up in all of them.

[MEXANDME]

There is no master valve.

There is a ball valve on the discharge line at the pump. With it open, it is only pumping 15 PSI. If I close it, it builds quickly to 50 PSI. I only ran it for a few seconds since there is no pressure switch. It is on a PSR.

Would letting it build up to 50 PSI and then quickly opening the ball valve accomplish what you are suggesting?

Thanks for trying to help this novice!

Regards,

Mex

[AI Inc]

Yank one zone wire and turn that zone on, this will put juice to the clock without sending juice to a valve. your answer will be in there.

[Wet_Boots]

wasn't this discussed a while back?

[CAPT Stream Rotar]

i can hear fimco saying in his sleep

"isolate the problem"

electricity or hydraulic?

examine the water coming out of heads valves...get it in a bucket..
make observations..

its simple..

[CAPT Stream Rotar]

oh hey wet boots do you still live in NYC"?

[AI Inc]

He moved to an island , rikers.

[CAPT Stream Rotar]

He moved to an island , rikers.

lol @ that nice one ai inc

que passa?

just wanted to let him know a phish invasion is going to explode there for the next few days..




hunker down brotha.

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

I had a weird dream that somebody was asking me in my sleep how to solve sprinkler problems. Go phishgure?

[Wet_Boots]

Oh, the sprinkler system problems I've encountered in dreams........

[DanaMac]

Oh, the sprinkler system problems I've encountered in dreams........

I'm with ya. You can only fix a crappy system so many times in one dream.....

Or the altercations I have with customers in my dreams. Too bad I can't record it on video. Very funny stuff.

[Wet_Boots]

I've encountered leaks so large I needed scuba gear to deal with them.....

[AI Inc]

I've encountered woman so large I needed scuba gear to deal with them.....

There , I fixed that for ya.

[Wet_Boots]

no, they belong on the pole dancing thread :p

[1idejim]

I've encountered leaks so large I needed scuba gear to deal with them.....

wb,

it's not as much fun as it once was

[Kiril]

I had a weird dream that somebody was asking me in my sleep how to solve sprinkler problems. Go phishgure?

That was me ...... it was a trick question. :waving:

[jimmyburg]

try using some dirty valves for the well.

[CAPT Stream Rotar]

lol @ peter!

fimco- do you live in nyc? can i crash the couch this friday? i won't be on to many,drinks.

[Wet_Boots]

Sorry, I'm not in NYC.

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

My life would be so complete to live in NYC and have Eddie come pass out at my place.

[Wet_Boots]

...and toss his cookies on your new sofa?

I don't much dream about conversations with customers, but if I did, I'd kind of like them to go like the following.....

http://www.27bslash6.com/p2p.html

[DanaMac]

...and toss his cookies on your new sofa?

I don't much dream about conversations with customers, but if I did, I'd kind of like them to go like the following.....

http://www.27bslash6.com/p2p.html

That is absolutely hilarious. I am book marking that site.
Damn, I could add to his list or stories/confrontations with customers.
Good stuff.

[MEXANDME]

As suspected, real fine sand in the valves. Washed them out good....they work like new!

Now, assuming this is a dirty water problem, my irrigation supplier recommended a Vu-Flow Filter with 100 mesh. Any thoughts / suggestions on this filter or any other one?

My plan of action: (Suggestions welcomed!)

In stall a filter
program in a delay between zones (I assume I can do this with a Pro-C. I have not yet looked to see.)
Open and clean all 11 valves

Thanks again for everyone's help / regards,

Mex

[Mike Leary]

If you're pulling sand, something is wrong with the application.

[1idejim]

is this a jet pump or a submersible?

[ARGOS]

...and toss his cookies on your new sofa?


This is my game plan at the condo in Colorado.

I hope Matt doesn't put down much for the cleaning deposit.

[Sprinkus]

I would probably, at minimum, install an electric valve on the filter and program it for one minute to flush out the filter before the irrigation comes on.

[MEXANDME]

This is a 1 HP shallow well jet pump.

Thanks / Regards,

Mex

[Wet_Boots]

100 mesh is a standard of straining that should safeguard the system. In olden days of classy brass, one might have opted to just blow the sand right through the system.

[Mike Leary]

I've never had problems with a reverse flow valve. That being said, the guy is pumping too much out of the well.

[AI Inc]

program in a delay between zones (I assume I can do this with a Pro-C. I have not yet looked to see.)




Mex

with dial in run position , press and hold the - key , while holding it in turn dial to set station run times. Delay will appear.