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stephen424
12-02-2009, 11:15 AM
Just need some advice from those that have subdivision work...

I was invited to bid on a 400 home subdivision..common areas of course, pine needles around landscaping, rubber mulch in playground.

This would be my first subdivision so I want to make sure I am including everything in my bid price. I am not asking for advice on how much to charge, just making sure I am including all services needed for a subdivision.

I currently have 3 banks and a load of residential accounts.
For my banks, I..
- mow weekly
- edging/trimming
- hedge trimming as needed
- replace pine needles once a year
- aerate/seed/fertilize in fall
- use a 9 step (Lesco) fescue fertilization program thru out year (winterizer, pre-M, starter fert with the aeration, 18-2-18 in June, 5-10-31 in July, etc)
- spot spray for weeds year round

Would I use the same steps for a subdivision? Do you replace pine needles twice for a subd (instead of once).

Am I leaving anything out?

Thanks for your input

stephen424
12-02-2009, 11:17 AM
oh yeah....i am solo but would hire a helper for this contract.

- i am not licensed to do irrigation work so would i just sub irrigation inspections/repairs out? is that a separate invoice or do you estimate a yearly inspection charge in the bid?

anything else you can think of...

tree_hugger
12-02-2009, 12:28 PM
Are you licensed to spray?
The way i do my irrigatoin is that i do monthly inspections which are included in your monthly maintenance cost...any repairs are approved by customer and billed separately...there is now way for you to budget that into your maintenance cost...unless you can see the future

so talk to your irrigation guy and let him give you a price on checking the irrigation monthly or when you want him to...put that in your monthly price.

topsites
12-02-2009, 01:26 PM
Why not ask the HOA these questions, they would probably be a lot more familiar
with the work than anyone who has never seen the properties you speak of.
We tell you one thing then it turns out to be another, I'd really hate to be the one
to try and second-guess the property owner's wishes, because anytime I have questions
concerning the actual work I always ask the customer.

Way I see it you can't really go but so wrong there, even if the customer tells me to do it wrong,
so long it's done the way they wanted it, at least it's their specifications I took care of.

ALC-GregH
12-02-2009, 03:18 PM
Why not ask the HOA these questions, they would probably be a lot more familiar
with the work than anyone who has never seen the properties you speak of.
We tell you one thing then it turns out to be another, I'd really hate to be the one
to try and second-guess the property owner's wishes, because anytime I have questions
concerning the actual work I always ask the customer.

Way I see it you can't really go but so wrong there, even if the customer tells me to do it wrong,
so long it's done the way they wanted it, at least it's their specifications I took care of.

A+ TS. :clapping:

stephen424
12-02-2009, 03:53 PM
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stephen424
12-02-2009, 03:56 PM
Simply put, I want to go into my bid with confidence and say "I'm offering these services for this price, this is add services, etc"

not go in like " soo, how do you handle irrigation needs, how often do you think your needles need replaced, etc"

brickman currently has the contract so I want to be on point
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SNAPPER MAN
12-02-2009, 03:59 PM
For irrigation repairs you do not have to be licensed. Also the HOA will probably want to cut down on fertilizing to 4 times a year to save money.

stephen424
12-02-2009, 04:03 PM
Thanks snapper.
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Kevin M.
12-02-2009, 04:53 PM
Snapper I have to disagree with you and maybe they want there place to be the best looking HOA in Charlotte since that is the case here in my area with one subdivision has to outdo each other especially this time of year with Christmas lights. Stephen call the property manager and ask him/her these questions and usually they will start to babble about there dislikes and likes of the property and sometimes even tell you the budget amount for landscaping for the year. Another piece of advise when there rambling on and on just take notes and dont say much this is how I have gotten info from property managers. Just my opinion on my experiences

Tony Clifton
12-03-2009, 10:02 AM
Did they not give you any specs?
Why don't you put together a couple different packages for them?
Have one that would include mowing, fert, pruning and another that includes mowing, fert, pruning, pineneedles, irrigation inspections, etc.
Personally I think it is much better to bill seperately for pine needles anyhow.
You never know what they want so if they aren't telling you give them a few different options.

Two Seasons
12-03-2009, 11:53 AM
The management of these HOA's change every several years, so you'll be living with the personality of the board for quite a long time. Make sure you get ALL of them together 2X. One for detail questioning and the second for the bid proposal. You can absolutely win this one away from Brickman :)

SNAPPER MAN
12-03-2009, 05:37 PM
What you need to do is price out everything for the guy. Show him how much for each cut, each fert application, each pine needle install, and your irrigation repair rate. Then let the property manager chose what services they want and then bundle them and bill over 12 months.