Weather

[AWJ Services]

In Georgia we suffered through a new construction collapse, a drought so bad the Governor issued a state wide watering ban that lasted too long and about the time things finally start looking up it starts raining. And Raining. And Raining. Not just normal rain but 2 to 3 inches in a 24 hour period.
The kicker is it has been doing this about every 7 to 10 days like clock work and it always seems to rain in the middle of the week.
Last month I was grateful to have enough work scheduled to get me through the first of the year but at the rate I am able to work on these jobs they may last till June.LOL

Oh and there saying it might snow Saturday?WTF The Bermuda grass is still green?

[ksss]

In Georgia we suffered through a new construction collapse, a drought so bad the Governor issued a state wide watering ban that lasted too long and about the time things finally start looking up it starts raining. And Raining. And Raining. Not just normal rain but 2 to 3 inches in a 24 hour period.
The kicker is it has been doing this about every 7 to 10 days like clock work and it always seems to rain in the middle of the week.
Last month I was grateful to have enough work scheduled to get me through the first of the year but at the rate I am able to work on these jobs they may last till June.LOL

Oh and there saying it might snow Saturday?WTF The Bermuda grass is still green?

WTF is right. Cold as hell here and no snow. If you like, AWJ I will send you my Erskine snow blower for a time, maybe you can make someone with it, I obviously am not.

[RockSet N' Grade]

time for a sweater or something around here too........getting down to a respectable 17-12 deesgrees at night. No snow and that is simply because KSSS bought a snow blower......if he had not done that, it would be snowing right now!

[YellowDogSVC]

Oh, I thought you were talking about S. Texas. 2 year drought, lack made it to 51' feet low, 59 days of 100 plus heat from June to August (beat record by nearly 23 days) then it starts raining, and raining, and raining and then it got cold and then it snowed today. Yes, snow in S. Texas. Houston is getting 1-3 inches!! Okay Al Gore. Where is all this global warming? I feel like I live in the Bermuda Triangle of weather! Oh, and we are supposed to hit a deep freeze tonight around 17! I am right next to San Antonio! It's supposed to be balmy here.

[jefftb]

Shane, better send the snowblower to Houston, its snowing babyeeee.

[Gravel Rat]

We have been getting lots of rain Novemeber was the wettest month on record. Rain doesn't affect work here just miserable to work in and when you build houses in the rain the wood swells and when it drys you end up with squeeks.

Haven't had any snow yet like last year we don't want any of that white crap.

[JPsDuramax]

You're right. It has really sucked here in GA with all this rain. I tried to spread some dirt today and all I did was spin tires in the mud. And it hasn't rained the past two days, just the last one we had was so saturating and now tomorrow snow?!?! I won't ever get anything finished before Christmas.

[Bleed Green]

Oh, I thought you were talking about S. Texas. 2 year drought, lack made it to 51' feet low, 59 days of 100 plus heat from June to August (beat record by nearly 23 days) then it starts raining, and raining, and raining and then it got cold and then it snowed today. Yes, snow in S. Texas. Houston is getting 1-3 inches!! Okay Al Gore. Where is all this global warming? I feel like I live in the Bermuda Triangle of weather! Oh, and we are supposed to hit a deep freeze tonight around 17! I am right next to San Antonio! It's supposed to be balmy here.

That is exactly what I said the other day when they were talking about snow in Lubbock, TX. Where is all the global warming. I wish we could have some global warming here in Southern Indiana, its finally getting to feel like fall/winter. All the sudden it went from decently warm to freezing and they are talking some snow.

[stuvecorp]

Today was the end for me, is just too cold now. Got some base in for a paver walkway we can start right away in the spring. That sucks with the rain that way, it's hard to do anything when it's wet all the time.

[Dirtman2007]

In Georgia we suffered through a new construction collapse, a drought so bad the Governor issued a state wide watering ban that lasted too long and about the time things finally start looking up it starts raining. And Raining. And Raining. Not just normal rain but 2 to 3 inches in a 24 hour period.
The kicker is it has been doing this about every 7 to 10 days like clock work and it always seems to rain in the middle of the week.
Last month I was grateful to have enough work scheduled to get me through the first of the year but at the rate I am able to work on these jobs they may last till June.LOL

Oh and there saying it might snow Saturday?WTF The Bermuda grass is still green?

Its crazy isn't it. been the same way here. Rains about every 3 days then is cloudy on the days between. God is it wet. way too wet to do any grading jobs. All have now is to fix jobs that have been damaged by flood water, oh well its work right!

[Scag48]

End of October was wet, November was incredibly wet. Had 3-4 half days in the last 6 weeks, couple days in October that I got called off entirely. So far, December has been cold with no precip. Started the iron yesterday morning at 25 degrees, haul roads stayed nice and tight for a couple hours anyway.:laugh: We can work in the rain as long as we're not doing finish work. Here it is the first week in December and we're still blue topping for ATB, kinda wild actually, although I think after next week we could be done doing blade work until March or April.

[NEUSWEDE]

Up here in Maine we had a wet summer not a ton of sun or warm days, very dry fall and been wet for November but it has been warmer than usual yesterday we had a high of 68 but that is about to go away with snow predicted for tomorrow. Would rather have the warm and no snow as still a bunch of projects that can be done, rather do them now than in 5 months. Hopefully the winter goes quick.

[UrbanGreen]

Yea this has been insane!!! Every 3 to 4 days rain, rain, rain! Like you said, its not just a little bit but like 3" and 4" in a day. My maintenance schedule has been ridiculous. I have gotten a lot of good dry creek bed jobs because of it all!

[treemover]

October here was 2nd wettest on record. Havnt had much rain as of late, but damn it is cold! Never remember it getting this cold this early.

[AWJ Services]

October here was 2nd wettest on record. Havnt had much rain as of late, but damn it is cold! Never remember it getting this cold this early.

I cannot remember the last time our warm weather grass was still green this late in the year.
It has been wet and warm here.

[treemover]

we have been cool, but this week and next damn cold!! 16 tonight we are not used to this!

[Junior M]

We have been getting lots of rain Novemeber was the wettest month on record. Rain doesn't affect work here just miserable to work in and when you build houses in the rain the wood swells and when it drys you end up with squeeks.

Haven't had any snow yet like last year we don't want any of that white crap.

I didnt think anyone was building up there and work was practically a thing of the past? ;)

I cannot remember the last time our warm weather grass was still green this late in the year.
It has been wet and warm here.

our grass finally went dormant this past week when we got a heavy frost..

[AWJ Services]

The snow passed, the wind picked up, and 25 tonight.
If the stars align I may get to work monday.:cool2:

[JPsDuramax]

Don't count on it. Lately Ch. 2 has been getting everything wrong. They say more rain on Tuesday, so that means Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday. Weathermen, the one job you can get wrong 100% of the time and not get fired.

[YellowDogSVC]

it's raining here again. We have made up most of our (this year's) drought deficit in the last couple of months and everything is sticky. Started a road job yesterday and had to pull off and wait for the sun to come out. Was tracking the job up. Something has gotta give or work is going to slow down even more!

[ksss]

It is below zero at night and single digits during the day. Had a rip rap job to start think I will wait until it cools off a little more.:waving:

[Digdeep]

We're supposed to get up to 12" snow overnight with wind and blowing snow through tomorrow night here in Madison.

[stuvecorp]

We're supposed to get up to 12" snow overnight with wind and blowing snow through tomorrow night here in Madison.

The chief meteorologist has the town in panic mode for our impending 'snowfall of doom'. At least I can plow this year in glorious S3 comfort.:)

[YellowDogSVC]

Okay. I'm sorry I said anything! Geezus.. How do you guys do it? I would literally have to go to the buffet, go home, get in bed, and get up in April. Really. I'm going to stop complaining. It was like 55 deg, and drizzling all damn day and I was cold wearing shorts and a t shirt.
Still, mud=no traction. That's what I need to work on for now but I'm glad we don't have impending blizzards. Be safe!

Oh, do any of you ice fish?

[stuvecorp]

Nope, no ice fishing. Actually no fishing of any kind.

[YellowDogSVC]

The chief meteorologist has the town in panic mode for our impending 'snowfall of doom'. At least I can plow this year in glorious S3 comfort.:)

I bet those side lights will be helpful. You just need a rear view camera and your set! Do you plow at night too?

[BIGBEN2004]

Im one of the unlucky east coast people too with all that rain. Every 3-4 days it rains and then it gets cold enough to snow but then it warms up when the rain comes again. Tomorrow we are in a Flood watch again with a large storm coming from the South again. Looks like more construction entrances to put stone in in the rain. I hate mud, at least I can grade dust but mud is impossible even with tracks.

[scagtiger]

we are in the same boat here.. we have about 20 loads of dirt to put down and it wont dry up long enough to even haul it

[Gravel Rat]

You guys may laugh but it is cold here -5 celcius or 23 degress farenheit. It is cold when your used to rain and 7 celcius or 45 degress farenheit. Out on the coast it is a damp cold it isn't dry.

Anything is better than rotten snow once it snows everything stops nobody works nobody can get around unless you have chains or 4wheeldrive. You have to park your vehical at the top of your driveway because you can't get up or down in a vehical. You can't plow 70% of the driveways because they are too steep. A skid steer would have to be chained up.

[stuvecorp]

I bet those side lights will be helpful. You just need a rear view camera and your set! Do you plow at night too?

It looks like I'm just going to be plowing around the shop this year. I do plow at night a lot though. I'm trying to find a cheap Blizzard plow to play with.

[ksss]

Nope, no ice fishing. Actually no fishing of any kind.




Back home in North Dakota, it was for me, and of course still is there, almost a cult religion. The bigger the house (up to regulation size), more beer, more deer sausage and reception for the Sunday football games, the more fun you have. It is really a great time, doesn't really matter if the fish bite or not.

Here it is not as big a deal.

[stuvecorp]

Back home in North Dakota, it was for me, and of course still is there, almost a cult religion. The bigger the house (up to regulation size), more beer, more deer sausage and reception for the Sunday football games, the more fun you have. It is really a great time, doesn't really matter if the fish bite or not.

Here it is not as big a deal.

It is big here too, It's kind of fun to drive by and see the insta-towns out on the ice. Just never got in to it.

[Junior M]

Back home in North Dakota, it was for me, and of course still is there, almost a cult religion. The bigger the house (up to regulation size), more beer, more deer sausage and reception for the Sunday football games, the more fun you have. It is really a great time, doesn't really matter if the fish bite or not.

Here it is not as big a deal.
sounds like hunting season to my family.. :laugh:

[Dirtman2007]

Im one of the unlucky east coast people too with all that rain. Every 3-4 days it rains and then it gets cold enough to snow but then it warms up when the rain comes again. Tomorrow we are in a Flood watch again with a large storm coming from the South again. Looks like more construction entrances to put stone in in the rain. I hate mud, at least I can grade dust but mud is impossible even with tracks.

I'm listening to all that rain fall right now. Talk about temperature differences, its 39 here, 2 hrs to the east its 73 out!?!

[AWJ Services]

The rain is gone here.
The sun is even coming out.:)
Maybe it will last a week or so.

[treemover]

We have a wonderful day of 14, with ice from yesterday. Not suppose to be this cold here

[YellowDogSVC]

well sun's finally out and it should dry with 30 mph winds. I'm heading out. Wish me luck! It's just a simple road!!

[jd270]

it just wonderfull here 16inches of snow and 12 degrees with 50 mph winds

[coopers]

it just wonderfull here 16inches of snow and 12 degrees with 50 mph winds

Send some of that my way please. It's 11 degrees here w/ no snow. :hammerhead:

[RedRebel]

19 degrees and they are calling for 25 to 40 MPH winds...yikes

[93turbo]

50 this morning down to 17 tonight with 40-50 mph winds and rain to snow

[jokers dirt]

good thing about all the rain here is people actually see how screwed up there yards really are and thats when i come in and grade or fix the problem . So its kind of a good thing on my part.

[YellowDogSVC]

I finally finished up my road job but everything off the road is still muddy. Very frustrating trying to get traction with Hulk tires on a Bobcat when the ground is soft!

[YellowDogSVC]

I finally finished up my road job but everything off the road is still muddy. Very frustrating trying to get traction with Hulk tires on a Bobcat when the ground is soft!

Well, it rained all day Friday. Got a call at 8:00 am this morning. "Road where you put the base is worse than it was before you started working!" Oh, Joy, here we go again.

I go over there and look at it. We did about 1200 ft of road. All gravel except for a short section which was 1 3/4 base. The trucker that delivered it apologized for the base saying it had too many fines. Yeah, it did. I tried to fix it but he had tailgated it all over my gravel. It was soup this morning. Arrghhh. I never mind fixing anything but I am tweaked because it was too late to get materials today, tomorrow is sunday and it is supposed to rain again Monday!

If I had skipped the base (was on the only section of road that had a slight slope) the road probably would have been fine. Also, if the trucker had watched what was brought to me before he dumped it, I would not be in this situation...then again, it seems that all of my roads have had an issue like this since it started raining and the base quality isn't consistent.

I'm just venting... Friggin' weather sucks but I also DO not like inconveniencing my customers who are neighbors, friends, etc. Too small of a community to get a bad rep because materials SUCKED!

[ksss]

Here is another tip I have found. It is best to make sure the roadbase is wet/damp before you grade it out. Realizing your not likely having a separation problem right now with all the rain. This prevents the fines from separating from the bones as you grade it. It is easier to grade dry and then water it but it usually results in separation when done that way. It sounds like it might be time to get your own truck. More control over the quality of material and on your own schedule.

[Dirtman2007]

Did you roll or pack the material in after you graded it?

[YellowDogSVC]

Did you roll or pack the material in after you graded it?


Here is another tip I have found. It is best to make sure the roadbase is wet/damp before you grade it out. Realizing your not likely having a separation problem right now with all the rain. This prevents the fines from separating from the bones as you grade it. It is easier to grade dry and then water it but it usually results in separation when done that way. It sounds like it might be time to get your own truck. More control over the quality of material and on your own schedule.

Material was damp when I graded and them compacted 2x. It looked good when I left but I had this uneasy feeling about all the fines. It really was a bad mix and when i called my trucker this am, he said he should have dumped that at the pit and got another load. He knew! UGGH..
So, I'll be out some cash for materials plus labor. Again, I don't mind the labor as I want my customers to be happy but it hurts to pay for anything right now only getting 2-3 days a week (sometimes less) of work in around all the wet.

[Dirtman2007]

Material was damp when I graded and them compacted 2x. It looked good when I left but I had this uneasy feeling about all the fines. It really was a bad mix and when i called my trucker this am, he said he should have dumped that at the pit and got another load. He knew! UGGH..
So, I'll be out some cash for materials plus labor. Again, I don't mind the labor as I want my customers to be happy but it hurts to pay for anything right now only getting 2-3 days a week (sometimes less) of work in around all the wet.

Can you just get like one load of gravel and mix it in with the fines to make a more stable base?

or are you going to strip it and start over.

[YellowDogSVC]

Can you just get like one load of gravel and mix it in with the fines to make a more stable base?

or are you going to strip it and start over.

Because this was a patch job and the customer couldn't afford the nearly 7k for an entire base road with gravel under base, we decided on a 3k budget. I put down about 65 tons of gravel, 13 tons of larger septic rock in the muddy spots, cut out drainage, and then put 26 tons of 1 3/4 crushed base (we call it #2 down here) on the only part of the road with a grade. My plan is exactly what you call for. That should stabilize the base especially since 100% of the rest of the road that had gravel on it was just fine? Add regular gravel (about 13 tons) to the top of the base and pack it in. Since it's a farm, I'm going to try and talk them into stockpiling a load of gravel for future repairs. I told them (they are practically neighbors) that I would come by and do a repair for only an hour or two charge or free if I was real close. I didn't make money on this job but I knew that going in. My main headache is thinking about them being inconvenienced or thinking I did shoddy work. When times are tough and businesses are shutting down left and right, all I have is my reputation but I can't give away everything and keep my own doors open.

Here's another dilemma. I have always given base, dirt, gravel, etc., at cost. I only charge for labor. Since I seem to get screwed often by the pit, should I have a markup on materials so it doesn't hurt so bad if I have to pay for a load or go back and fix something? Also, since things are tight for everyone, I have been prorating charges down to the "by the hour" to help people out and they like to save a few bucks over a full day's charge. Sure, my profits are way down but I am helping out my customers and I think they appreciate that. That's one reason I haven't marked up materials.

Any thoughts on the latter?

[93turbo]

I had an old timer tell me once out of all his customers none ever rememberd him for how good of deal he gave them just how good of job he done. So he told me to be fair but make money and above all do a good job

[stuvecorp]

I always tack some on for materials, it kind of floats up and down but I don't nail people with a mark up.

That sucks the driver kind of screwed you on that, maybe he could help by delivering the next on on him?

[ksss]

:walking:Because this was a patch job and the customer couldn't afford the nearly 7k for an entire base road with gravel under base, we decided on a 3k budget. I put down about 65 tons of gravel, 13 tons of larger septic rock in the muddy spots, cut out drainage, and then put 26 tons of 1 3/4 crushed base (we call it #2 down here) on the only part of the road with a grade. My plan is exactly what you call for. That should stabilize the base especially since 100% of the rest of the road that had gravel on it was just fine? Add regular gravel (about 13 tons) to the top of the base and pack it in. Since it's a farm, I'm going to try and talk them into stockpiling a load of gravel for future repairs. I told them (they are practically neighbors) that I would come by and do a repair for only an hour or two charge or free if I was real close. I didn't make money on this job but I knew that going in. My main headache is thinking about them being inconvenienced or thinking I did shoddy work. When times are tough and businesses are shutting down left and right, all I have is my reputation but I can't give away everything and keep my own doors open.

Here's another dilemma. I have always given base, dirt, gravel, etc., at cost. I only charge for labor. Since I seem to get screwed often by the pit, should I have a markup on materials so it doesn't hurt so bad if I have to pay for a load or go back and fix something? Also, since things are tight for everyone, I have been prorating charges down to the "by the hour" to help people out and they like to save a few bucks over a full day's charge. Sure, my profits are way down but I am helping out my customers and I think they appreciate that. That's one reason I haven't marked up materials.

Any thoughts on the latter?

I don't think there is anything wrong with the way your are doing it. The only difference is the customer has to realize that if they are paying exact costs of materials that when things like that happen, they will have to pickup the additional costs. I would just bring the material and fix and charge accordingly. I can appreciate wanting to help out the customer out but if they are going to benefit from paying exact costs then they also have to absorb the added costs when things don't go as planned. Cant have it both ways. You have to explain to them what happened and what needs to be done to make it right. I would make sure they know what kind of deal they are getting, explain your pricing to them so they know what the score is. Marking up materials really wont help much. Even at a couple bucks a yard your markup will be 24 a truck load. Really not going to make a difference at the end of the day. Just my thoughts. You should maybe reconsider the VTS, much more effective than your hard Hulk tires in wet conditions. Just my thoughts.

[YellowDogSVC]

:walking:

I don't think there is anything wrong with the way your are doing it. The only difference is the customer has to realize that if they are paying exact costs of materials that when things like that happen, they will have to pickup the additional costs. I would just bring the material and fix and charge accordingly. I can appreciate wanting to help out the customer out but if they are going to benefit from paying exact costs then they also have to absorb the added costs when things don't go as planned. Cant have it both ways. You have to explain to them what happened and what needs to be done to make it right. I would make sure they know what kind of deal they are getting, explain your pricing to them so they know what the score is. Marking up materials really wont help much. Even at a couple bucks a yard your markup will be 24 a truck load. Really not going to make a difference at the end of the day. Just my thoughts. You should maybe reconsider the VTS, much more effective than your hard Hulk tires in wet conditions. Just my thoughts.

The customer did agree to pay for base. I got the trucker to knock about $50 off the load but he wanted to bring a light load. I think I will get a full load of gravel, pay the difference and make it look good.

It's funny you mention the VTS. I have thought about them but the on and off would be an issue since we have so much rock. I bought the excavator (which I love) but haven't used it much. Trying to get proficient with it so I can use it when it is wet. Thinking real hard about CTL. I would most likely have to give up my toolcat. I used to run two S300's and the chipper. I think a skid, CTL, and excavator would allow me to work anywhere?? Only problem I have is, NO MONEY this year. If I got a CTL it wouldn't make much sense to get one I can't grind with. To grind effectively, I'm looking at a used $50k or new $60k+ machine. Arghhhh. I will never get ahead at that rate unless I can stay real busy. Don't want to sell the chipper especially in this market even though I use it less and less as the grinding becomes more popular. I just paid off my '05 F350 flatbed 4x4. Could sell that for over 20k easy and use cash to put a flatbed on my '08 f350 and put the difference down on a CTL. Gotta think about where I'm going and what I want to do. Sky's the limit BUT, I'm still a one-man operation and how many machines can one-man have?

Maybe the answer lies in figuring a way to incorporate the mini ex more. I probably jumped the gun on it but I had some projects out here and some other projects (that didn't happen) that I wanted it for. Now I want to make the best of it and use it more and more.

Thanks for everyone's input.. I'm thinkin' :dizzy:

[Dirtman2007]

If we are working for a freind we usually don't mark up materials unless we have to drive and get them ect.

Stone and dump trucks get marked up 5-10%. Your having the pay for this expense out of your pocket for the truckers, before the owner pays you. Some of the city job we do that can be up to 60 days before you get a check. Lord you sure can run up 20K in trucks and materials in 60 days.

Like it was already said, I've had to do my labor for free before and some materials. (yes I did a job at the wrong location before) you just have to make up for it on other projects. But atleast you will know for the next time
what will and will not work for the job.

[Junior M]

(yes I did a job at the wrong location before)

thats good stuff.. :laugh: :laugh:

[Dirtman2007]

thats good stuff.. :laugh: :laugh:

I swear to god I fixed the wrong section of creek channel before. The owner was still pleased:laugh:

[Junior M]

I swear to god I fixed the wrong section of creek channel before. The owner was still pleased:laugh:
:laugh:

we all know, you posted pics!

[AWJ Services]

All of my rock(gravel) I get at a discount over what the homeowner would pay so why give it to them for less? You are doing a disservice to everyone by asking for a discount only to pass the savings on to the customers.

My thoughts On gravel drives. Well if they want a permanant fix pour concrete.
I will never pay for more gravel to fix a driveway. There is no permanat fix on a gravel driveway. You are just buying them time.

If you are going to give the job away at least make the homeowner pay for all materials. That way there will never be any question( in there eyes) how much you made on the job.

[YellowDogSVC]

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Like it was already said, I've had to do my labor for free before and some materials. (yes I did a job at the wrong location before) you just have to make up for it on other projects. .

This is for a whole different thread! Once had a realtor meet me at a lot that she was "selling". Only problem was, she was on the wrong lot. She had the plat, marking tape, etc. We cleared the lot. It turned out beautiful but it was the WRONG lot. She didn't own it or represent it! Oh god... lawsuit..but I was lucky. Turns out a friend of hers had bought it and was going to get it cleared anyway so she could build. Whew...dodged a bullet on that one and a few weeks later we were laughing about it. I ended up clearing almost all of the lots on that road before development but that one lot caused me to pick up some Tums. :hammerhead:

[QUOTE=AWJ
If you are going to give the job away at least make the homeowner pay for all materials. That way there will never be any question( in there eyes) how much you made on the job.[/QUOTE]


good point

[stuvecorp]

The customer did agree to pay for base. I got the trucker to knock about $50 off the load but he wanted to bring a light load. I think I will get a full load of gravel, pay the difference and make it look good.

It's funny you mention the VTS. I have thought about them but the on and off would be an issue since we have so much rock. I bought the excavator (which I love) but haven't used it much. Trying to get proficient with it so I can use it when it is wet. Thinking real hard about CTL. I would most likely have to give up my toolcat. I used to run two S300's and the chipper. I think a skid, CTL, and excavator would allow me to work anywhere?? Only problem I have is, NO MONEY this year. If I got a CTL it wouldn't make much sense to get one I can't grind with. To grind effectively, I'm looking at a used $50k or new $60k+ machine. Arghhhh. I will never get ahead at that rate unless I can stay real busy. Don't want to sell the chipper especially in this market even though I use it less and less as the grinding becomes more popular. I just paid off my '05 F350 flatbed 4x4. Could sell that for over 20k easy and use cash to put a flatbed on my '08 f350 and put the difference down on a CTL. Gotta think about where I'm going and what I want to do. Sky's the limit BUT, I'm still a one-man operation and how many machines can one-man have?

Maybe the answer lies in figuring a way to incorporate the mini ex more. I probably jumped the gun on it but I had some projects out here and some other projects (that didn't happen) that I wanted it for. Now I want to make the best of it and use it more and more.

Thanks for everyone's input.. I'm thinkin' :dizzy:

If you could put together a skid with VTS maybe it would be another way to have tracks but without that 50 large price tag?

[ksss]

The customer did agree to pay for base. I got the trucker to knock about $50 off the load but he wanted to bring a light load. I think I will get a full load of gravel, pay the difference and make it look good.

It's funny you mention the VTS. I have thought about them but the on and off would be an issue since we have so much rock. I bought the excavator (which I love) but haven't used it much. Trying to get proficient with it so I can use it when it is wet. Thinking real hard about CTL. I would most likely have to give up my toolcat. I used to run two S300's and the chipper. I think a skid, CTL, and excavator would allow me to work anywhere?? Only problem I have is, NO MONEY this year. If I got a CTL it wouldn't make much sense to get one I can't grind with. To grind effectively, I'm looking at a used $50k or new $60k+ machine. Arghhhh. I will never get ahead at that rate unless I can stay real busy. Don't want to sell the chipper especially in this market even though I use it less and less as the grinding becomes more popular. I just paid off my '05 F350 flatbed 4x4. Could sell that for over 20k easy and use cash to put a flatbed on my '08 f350 and put the difference down on a CTL. Gotta think about where I'm going and what I want to do. Sky's the limit BUT, I'm still a one-man operation and how many machines can one-man have?

Maybe the answer lies in figuring a way to incorporate the mini ex more. I probably jumped the gun on it but I had some projects out here and some other projects (that didn't happen) that I wanted it for. Now I want to make the best of it and use it more and more.

Thanks for everyone's input.. I'm thinkin' :dizzy:

The one man operation has its own problems. Utilization rates are always an important issue but especially in a downturn economy. That is why you see so many companies reducing their fleets. Low utilization can be compensated for when your rockin and rollin, harder now though.

Some options

If you could add a CTL cheap that might work. You will need one capable of mulching, so low hours/good shape, high flow and big power are the order of day. Might be hard to find, but if your patient not impossible. Problem is your adding to the wrong side of your balance sheet.

The better solution would seem to be replace your 330 with a CTL (BIC equipped 450 S-3:waving:). Yes in the rock you may replace your tracks more often than normal but for the cost of owning and maintaining another machine you could buy a lot of rubber. You then have one main machine, things improve add a another used wheeled machine (easier to find used, less susceptible to abuse than a CTL and cheaper).

The other option would be to get a set of VTS. With your excavator, swinging the VTS off and on would not be a big deal. Get a used set like the set I PMed you, you then can get a low cost feel for the tracks and what they can and cant do for your operation. You may then want to get a CTL or maybe keep the VTS on your 330 and add a second wheeled machine which would also be a low cost alternative as things pickup or you hire help.

Running by yourself you can easily get more equipment than you can run. If you have the work, one good operator plus you can double your gross recievables. Keeping even two machines out of three rolling all the time makes money, however one piece moving and two sitting (talking major pieces) that is hard pencil out. The closer you can be to one SSL/CTL plus the excavator the better, if you are going to stay working by yourself. Again just my thoughts. There are ways to make three pieces work (finding great deals on the used market) as you have done in the past, but now might not be the time for having three key pieces and just one operator. RSG and I have discussed this issue of equipment verse operators verse economy at length. Still don't think we have got any solid solutions yet.

[YellowDogSVC]

The one man operation has its own problems. Utilization rates are always an important issue but especially in a downturn economy. That is why you see so many companies reducing their fleets. Low utilization can be compensated for when your rockin and rollin, harder now though.

Some options

If you could add a CTL cheap that might work. You will need one capable of mulching, so low hours/good shape, high flow and big power are the order of day. Might be hard to find, but if your patient not impossible. Problem is your adding to the wrong side of your balance sheet.

The better solution would seem to be replace your 330 with a CTL (BIC equipped 450 S-3:waving:). Yes in the rock you may replace your tracks more often than normal but for the cost of owning and maintaining another machine you could buy a lot of rubber. You then have one main machine, things improve add a another used wheeled machine (easier to find used, less susceptible to abuse than a CTL and cheaper).

The other option would be to get a set of VTS. With your excavator, swinging the VTS off and on would not be a big deal. Get a used set like the set I PMed you, you then can get a low cost feel for the tracks and what they can and cant do for your operation. You may then want to get a CTL or maybe keep the VTS on your 330 and add a second wheeled machine which would also be a low cost alternative as things pickup or you hire help.

Running by yourself you can easily get more equipment than you can run. If you have the work, one good operator plus you can double your gross recievables. Keeping even two machines out of three rolling all the time makes money, however one piece moving and two sitting (talking major pieces) that is hard pencil out. The closer you can be to one SSL/CTL plus the excavator the better, if you are going to stay working by yourself. Again just my thoughts. There are ways to make three pieces work (finding great deals on the used market) as you have done in the past, but now might not be the time for having three key pieces and just one operator. RSG and I have discussed this issue of equipment verse operators verse economy at length. Still don't think we have got any solid solutions yet.

great points. I have 110 Acres of tough land that also needs attention so having machinery isn't a bad thing. I'll probably always have "something".
I think the 330 spoiled me, however, because of the two speed. I'd hate to get a CTL and be stuck at snail speed again. :( I could, though, keep my toolcat and learn to utilize it more on carrying things long distances. It's a bit of a rough ride but fun to operate.

I know I could make a CTL work. I only have 50 hours on the excavator but it was all rock and the tracks are doing good and I doubt they are as tough as the CTL tracks. I don't know what type of deal I could get on a trade or sell on the 330. Still owe a bunch on it. Upside down, I'm sure.

Still, if I am going to be doing a lot of roads and mulching, seems like CTL is the choice but I still get a lot of grapple jobs. I would just need to go back to doing it single speed. 6.6 mph..drat.

VTS is an option BUT the weight is an issue. I am maxed out on my trailer with my 330 weighing about 9400 lbs with tilt tatch and cab and air. What do you think it would weigh with VTS and swapping out the hulks?

[ksss]

great points. I have 110 Acres of tough land that also needs attention so having machinery isn't a bad thing. I'll probably always have "something".
I think the 330 spoiled me, however, because of the two speed. I'd hate to get a CTL and be stuck at snail speed again. :( I could, though, keep my toolcat and learn to utilize it more on carrying things long distances. It's a bit of a rough ride but fun to operate.

I know I could make a CTL work. I only have 50 hours on the excavator but it was all rock and the tracks are doing good and I doubt they are as tough as the CTL tracks. I don't know what type of deal I could get on a trade or sell on the 330. Still owe a bunch on it. Upside down, I'm sure.

Still, if I am going to be doing a lot of roads and mulching, seems like CTL is the choice but I still get a lot of grapple jobs. I would just need to go back to doing it single speed. 6.6 mph..drat.

VTS is an option BUT the weight is an issue. I am maxed out on my trailer with my 330 weighing about 9400 lbs with tilt tatch and cab and air. What do you think it would weigh with VTS and swapping out the hulks?


Those Hulks are heavy, the VTS will be about 3K complete. I would imagine you would net a 2K increase. Get yourself a 24K gooseneck and you could pull the skid steer and your excavator in one shot. Upgrading your trailer would still be cheaper than adding another machine. The VTS takes about 1 mph off of the topspeed. The biggest VTS drawback is the width I think. That is not issue for you it looks like. The VTS rides better than does a CTL. It appears that few people switch back and forth from the VTS and that includes me as well, but it is an option. I would also safely say that you will maintain more of your resale verse a CTL.

If your upside down on your 330, and if you want tracks, then VTS is really your only choice. Too bad that you cant use a BC VTS system on anything other than a BC (or so I was told). You will be locked into a BC.:cry:

[stuvecorp]

The first thing I thought with the VTS was DirtyBiz and his problems with the width. If you went to a bigger trailer so you could haul both machines I would think that could help. You work a big area don't you? I'm not sure how VTS and Bobcat machines coexist as I've not checked in to them, KRTraxx would be one to check on it maybe. I think even with rocks you likely would be okay as you are running it not an emploee. The VTS does seem to get put on the machine and left on. Maybe add another wheeled skid down the road as things pick up if you go the VTS route?

Shane has an interesting point with being a smaller company and lots of equipment, I struggle with this as I do not put a lot of hours on machines but you need different sizes for different projects or situations.

[Construct'O]

You live in Texas,90% of the time your in a drought,just wait in two months your be wanting rain.A ittle rain and you have forgot the dusty cab?

To get you by for the times you need tracks get the OTT for your 330.Even for the few times you will need them the rubber set would work.For your jobs that you don't want to disturb the environment.

Save yourself a lot of money and headache of hiring help.:usflag:

[YellowDogSVC]

Those Hulks are heavy, the VTS will be about 3K complete. I would imagine you would net a 2K increase. Get yourself a 24K gooseneck and you could pull the skid steer and your excavator in one shot. Upgrading your trailer would still be cheaper than adding another machine. The VTS takes about 1 mph off of the topspeed. The biggest VTS drawback is the width I think. That is not issue for you it looks like. The VTS rides better than does a CTL. It appears that few people switch back and forth from the VTS and that includes me as well, but it is an option. I would also safely say that you will maintain more of your resale verse a CTL.

If your upside down on your 330, and if you want tracks, then VTS is really your only choice. Too bad that you cant use a BC VTS system on anything other than a BC (or so I was told). You will be locked into a BC.:cry:

I would have to upgrade to a CDL. I don't use a gooseneck specifically because a lot of the jobs I work at or on are notoriously difficult to get a truck and trailer in. My competitors always have to setup on the road or highway and I can pull into a jobsite and disconnect my trailer and use the flatbed. That's where I want to stay for now, under CDL. Also, looking at a power to weight ratio, I would be adding 2k lbs to a 85 hp machine with 3300 psi vs a 92 hp machine that would weigh only 10k at it's heaviest (before mulcher). Both widths would be 80" I think. UGGHH. More thinkin'. I had planned on keeping the 330 for a long time.

[YellowDogSVC]

You live in Texas,90% of the time your in a drought,just wait in two months your be wanting rain.A ittle rain and you have forgot the dusty cab?

To get you by for the times you need tracks get the OTT for your 330.Even for the few times you will need them the rubber set would work.For your jobs that you don't want to disturb the environment.

Save yourself a lot of money and headache of hiring help.:usflag:

Hey, I'm the guy that found mud in the worst drought ever! Got stuck 2x last summer in 100* heat out in the middle of a 3000 acre ranch. I will say that I was happy I sprung for the winch when I did. Though I snapped my cable, I got the 330 out and had a good workout to boot hiking about 1 mile to go get my truck! Part of the issue is the hulk tires. They really are incredible in rough, rocky terrain as they grip everything. Throw some wet ashes, mud, or slop in the grooves and they are like solid recycling style tires. If I remember correctly, the Bobcat version of the hulks had a larger solid rubber lug in the middle that didn't pick up as much slop as traditional hulks. I went with hulks last time because I was told the bobcat version had a weaker bead area??
I like the idea of having a CTL and a smaller, 7k lb 75 hp or so machine for grapple work and other needs.

[stuvecorp]

I would have to upgrade to a CDL. I don't use a gooseneck specifically because a lot of the jobs I work at or on are notoriously difficult to get a truck and trailer in. My competitors always have to setup on the road or highway and I can pull into a jobsite and disconnect my trailer and use the flatbed. That's where I want to stay for now, under CDL. Also, looking at a power to weight ratio, I would be adding 2k lbs to a 85 hp machine with 3300 psi vs a 92 hp machine that would weigh only 10k at it's heaviest (before mulcher). Both widths would be 80" I think. UGGHH. More thinkin'. I had planned on keeping the 330 for a long time.

I can see staying under the cdl thing.

What is the Bobcat version of a Case 440? With the 18" VTS I am 76.5" wide and am right around 10,000 pounds. Are you thinking of something like a Tak 130 or Bobcat equivalent?

[Junior M]

Hey, I'm the guy that found mud in the worst drought ever! Got stuck 2x last summer in 100* heat out in the middle of a 3000 acre ranch. I will say that I was happy I sprung for the winch when I did. Though I snapped my cable, I got the 330 out and had a good workout to boot hiking about 1 mile to go get my truck! Part of the issue is the hulk tires. They really are incredible in rough, rocky terrain as they grip everything. Throw some wet ashes, mud, or slop in the grooves and they are like solid recycling style tires. If I remember correctly, the Bobcat version of the hulks had a larger solid rubber lug in the middle that didn't pick up as much slop as traditional hulks. I went with hulks last time because I was told the bobcat version had a weaker bead area??
I like the idea of having a CTL and a smaller, 7k lb 75 hp or so machine for grapple work and other needs.
a T320 and an S220.. :cool2:

[mrsops]

Hey, I'm the guy that found mud in the worst drought ever! Got stuck 2x last summer in 100* heat out in the middle of a 3000 acre ranch. I will say that I was happy I sprung for the winch when I did. Though I snapped my cable, I got the 330 out and had a good workout to boot hiking about 1 mile to go get my truck! Part of the issue is the hulk tires. They really are incredible in rough, rocky terrain as they grip everything. Throw some wet ashes, mud, or slop in the grooves and they are like solid recycling style tires. If I remember correctly, the Bobcat version of the hulks had a larger solid rubber lug in the middle that didn't pick up as much slop as traditional hulks. I went with hulks last time because I was told the bobcat version had a weaker bead area??
I like the idea of having a CTL and a smaller, 7k lb 75 hp or so machine for grapple work and other needs.

Yellow i been running hulks for the past 3 4 years now and they can take a series beating. i cant remember the last time i got a flat. There self cleaning to lol they shoot mud every where. Thats funny yellow i was told that the bobcat version was thicker and better then the hulk but there also alot more money.

[ksss]

I can see staying under the cdl thing.

What is the Bobcat version of a Case 440? With the 18" VTS I am 76.5" wide and am right around 10,000 pounds. Are you thinking of something like a Tak 130 or Bobcat equivalent?


I would not let CDL rules dictate what type of equipment to buy. Its not that big of a deal. Most guys are over the CDL limit and don't even know it. DOT sometimes does not mess with guys pulling skid steers but they do here on occassion.

I don't think the extra weight would be an issue on a 330. Perhaps asking Dirty how he likes his VTS on his 300. He is at a much higher alt.

Seems there is always something to buy or in my case I miss buy and end up doing it again. When I bought my first Takeuchi in 03 I wanted to save money and went with an OROPS. Big mistake. I ended up trading in 07 for an EROPS machine ahead of my depreciation schedule. Cost me a lot of money. I would love to have that opportunity back.

[Junior M]

I would not let CDL rules dictate what type of equipment to buy. Its not that big of a deal. Most guys are over the CDL limit and don't even know it. DOT sometimes does not mess with guys pulling skid steers but they do here on occassion.

I don't think the extra weight would be an issue on a 330. Perhaps asking Dirty how he likes his VTS on his 300. He is at a much higher alt.

Seems there is always something to buy or in my case I miss buy and end up doing it again. When I bought my first Takeuchi in 03 I wanted to save money and went with an OROPS. Big mistake. I ended up trading in 07 for an EROPS machine ahead of my depreciation schedule. Cost me a lot of money. I would love to have that opportunity back.
Your not understanding what he is saying..

He holds a huge advantage over his competition, being able to get EVERYTHING back to the job. Plus his rule is to tear up as little as possible, dont wanna be ripping and breaking tree limbs with the trackhoe on the back of of a deckover gooseneck. Where with his current set up he can throw an attachment on the bed, a couple on the trailer with the machine and have EVERYTHING he needs back to the job without roading the machine several times or tearing stuff up and getting stuck..

Plus, he has some really tough jobs where he needs to save time by getting the truck and trailer back to the jobsite, where that'd be pretty rough to do with a 24ft 10ton gooseneck.

Sorry for jumping in like that yellow, but me and you had this discussion before..

[Gravel Rat]

I agree don't limit yourself because you don't have or want a larger truck to move it.

[stuvecorp]

Your not understanding what he is saying..

He holds a huge advantage over his competition, being able to get EVERYTHING back to the job. Plus his rule is to tear up as little as possible, dont wanna be ripping and breaking tree limbs with the trackhoe on the back of of a deckover gooseneck. Where with his current set up he can throw an attachment on the bed, a couple on the trailer with the machine and have EVERYTHING he needs back to the job without roading the machine several times or tearing stuff up and getting stuck..

Plus, he has some really tough jobs where he needs to save time by getting the truck and trailer back to the jobsite, where that'd be pretty rough to do with a 24ft 10ton gooseneck.

Sorry for jumping in like that yellow, but me and you had this discussion before..

I have always been under the impression that a gooseneck is more maneuverable provided it isn't a mile long. Look at Ron's setup, that has to go just about anywhere.

I know I need to do the CDL thing this winter once and for all.

[ksss]

Your not understanding what he is saying..

He holds a huge advantage over his competition, being able to get EVERYTHING back to the job. Plus his rule is to tear up as little as possible, dont wanna be ripping and breaking tree limbs with the trackhoe on the back of of a deckover gooseneck. Where with his current set up he can throw an attachment on the bed, a couple on the trailer with the machine and have EVERYTHING he needs back to the job without roading the machine several times or tearing stuff up and getting stuck..

Plus, he has some really tough jobs where he needs to save time by getting the truck and trailer back to the jobsite, where that'd be pretty rough to do with a 24ft 10ton gooseneck.

Sorry for jumping in like that yellow, but me and you had this discussion before..



I understand what he is saying. My point is that making the decision based soley on a CDL can unneccessarily hold you back. As far as getting equipment back to the job, if your ripping limbs off with a deck over you will likely rip them off with any trailer since the difference is usually only about 10". There is also time saving by hauling both a SSL and excavator in the same haul, especially if your a one man operation. I would imagine that with all the rain no one is pulling a trailer off road at least right now.

Whether these suggestions work for Yellow, I don't know, if they don't then they can be discarded, sometimes when your on top of a problem you can benefit from another point of view which is what this is.

[Gravel Rat]

Around here guys with mini or midi excavators have the heaviest 5 ton single axle dump truck you can get or a tandem axle with a tag trailer. Unless your running a machine that weighs no more than 6000lbs then a pickup and trailer is fine. If you need to haul two machines at once nothing beats a heavier truck.

As for jobsites you can't get a trailer on any jobsite here you unload your machine on the street/road and walk the machine into the job. You may have to park the truck and trailer half mile away from the job or just drop the trailer somewhere and drive the truck back.

Some new neighbours moved in nextdoor to where I live the driveway is tough to do with a truck. Well I guess they are from the city and don't know any better and backed a 1 ton dually flatdeck with a 14 foot trailer down the driveway. Well they got jack knifed and they were having lots of troubles all I could do is laugh and shake my head. I bet the guy driving the dually must have filled his underwear. After a hour or more they got the truck unstuck :laugh:

I have walked a 690 Deere excavator almost 1.5 miles because you can't get a truck and trailer into the jobsite. Another place one of the contractors had to walk a Hitachi 350 Roadbuilder 2 hours down a road because a lowbed couldn't get there.

For excavation contractors a 200 size machine is the biggest they want to use because it is the largest machine you can carry on a triaxle tag. A lowbed is expensive to maintain and if you need to hire one your looking at 150-250 per hour.

[Junior M]

I have always been under the impression that a gooseneck is more maneuverable provided it isn't a mile long. Look at Ron's setup, that has to go just about anywhere.

I know I need to do the CDL thing this winter once and for all.
thats not really the point. the shorter the better is also a key thing..

Once the trailer is so short you dont have room for the needed attachments, so you've got the bed of the truck.

[YellowDogSVC]

I would not let CDL rules dictate what type of equipment to buy. Its not that big of a deal. Most guys are over the CDL limit and don't even know it. DOT sometimes does not mess with guys pulling skid steers but they do here on occassion.

I don't think the extra weight would be an issue on a 330. Perhaps asking Dirty how he likes his VTS on his 300. He is at a much higher alt.

Seems there is always something to buy or in my case I miss buy and end up doing it again. When I bought my first Takeuchi in 03 I wanted to save money and went with an OROPS. Big mistake. I ended up trading in 07 for an EROPS machine ahead of my depreciation schedule. Cost me a lot of money. I would love to have that opportunity back.


My "ideas" have always panned out one way or another. I do not like to rent machines and I am available to my customers on short notice. When things are clicking, having extra tools (machines) can make me more than $1000 per day and up depending on what I am doing. I always need something on the ranch that can load and unload 2500 lb attachments to my flatbed. That allows me to be ultra versatile. I can do a job by starting with a few attachments, come home with the flatbed, and get the other attachments I need. I always find a way to pay for things but it isn't good business nor is it smart to do that. It just works out...but I don't do that in my personal life any longer and it's a challenge to stop doing it with business because I like good equipment and I like my "office" to be fairly comfortable and trouble free.

If I could get a good trade or sell on my toolcat, that would help me get into another larger machine but I meet resistance on the ranch since everyone likes it so much and we have projects out here plus I help my neighbors who are good friends.

Here's what I have now:
Toolcat turbo highflow with cab and ac
S330 high flow "" ""
Bobcat 335 excavator with cab ""
BC2000 chipper w/ loader
lots of attachments

As someone pointed out, we have a lot of months of drought here where mud usually isn't a problem but grade is (lots of steep properties and creeks are abundant in the hill country). Also, just an hour east of here is sandy soils that I have much trouble with traction because the hulks aren't designed for sand either.
I really like the idea of VTS but don't like the idea of swapping it on or off. Still, I may look into that. Is it really that simple to take off the tires and put VTS on? BUT, I only have a 12k trailer and really don't want a longer one which is what I would get with a higher capacity trailer. I like being short and sweet.

I am still going to eventually get my CDL. My trucker wants to get his Class A and pull my machines along with his machine for some projects we want to coop together on. Once he has his Class A, I can get him to train me.
Unless I have an F450 or heavier trailer, I don't have anything to test in anyway nor do I have someone to take me to test. (you have to have a Class A buddy here) but that's on the back burner right now as I don't haul that much anyway. I have found that it is easier to pick up and take back attachments and machines for my type of work rather than have too much onsite to worry about. Then again, I do mostly smaller, 1-3 day projects.

So much to think about! I even thought about VTS on an S220 sized machine where the weight wouldn't be such a problem on my trailer. Right now, I am going to stick with Bobcat but that may change if the M series doesn't excite me in the future. I still like the K series which is only available a little while longer thus I started thinkin' .


Yellow s220 very nice machine but do your self a favor have your dealer bring out a nice s630.. You will never buy another k series again. 630 kicks you know what

I would like to see one but they only have 30 gpm on high flow. At least the K series large frame loaders could grind as a back up machine because they are 37 gpm.

[mrsops]

My "ideas" have always panned out one way or another. I do not like to rent machines and I am available to my customers on short notice. When things are clicking, having extra tools (machines) can make me more than $1000 per day and up depending on what I am doing. I always need something on the ranch that can load and unload 2500 lb attachments to my flatbed. That allows me to be ultra versatile. I can do a job by starting with a few attachments, come home with the flatbed, and get the other attachments I need. I always find a way to pay for things but it isn't good business nor is it smart to do that. It just works out...but I don't do that in my personal life any longer and it's a challenge to stop doing it with business because I like good equipment and I like my "office" to be fairly comfortable and trouble free.

If I could get a good trade or sell on my toolcat, that would help me get into another larger machine but I meet resistance on the ranch since everyone likes it so much and we have projects out here plus I help my neighbors who are good friends.

Here's what I have now:
Toolcat turbo highflow with cab and ac
S330 high flow "" ""
Bobcat 335 excavator with cab ""
BC2000 chipper w/ loader
lots of attachments

As someone pointed out, we have a lot of months of drought here where mud usually isn't a problem but grade is (lots of steep properties and creeks are abundant in the hill country). Also, just an hour east of here is sandy soils that I have much trouble with traction because the hulks aren't designed for sand either.
I really like the idea of VTS but don't like the idea of swapping it on or off. Still, I may look into that. Is it really that simple to take off the tires and put VTS on? BUT, I only have a 12k trailer and really don't want a longer one which is what I would get with a higher capacity trailer. I like being short and sweet.

I am still going to eventually get my CDL. My trucker wants to get his Class A and pull my machines along with his machine for some projects we want to coop together on. Once he has his Class A, I can get him to train me.
Unless I have an F450 or heavier trailer, I don't have anything to test in anyway nor do I have someone to take me to test. (you have to have a Class A buddy here) but that's on the back burner right now as I don't haul that much anyway. I have found that it is easier to pick up and take back attachments and machines for my type of work rather than have too much onsite to worry about. Then again, I do mostly smaller, 1-3 day projects.

So much to think about! I even thought about VTS on an S220 sized machine where the weight wouldn't be such a problem on my trailer. Right now, I am going to stick with Bobcat but that may change if the M series doesn't excite me in the future. I still like the K series which is only available a little while longer thus I started thinkin' .


Yellow s220 very nice machine but do your self a favor have your dealer bring out a nice s630.. You will never buy another k series again. 630 kicks you know what

[YellowDogSVC]

I think KSSS has good points about the CDL. yeah, i don't "want" to get one but it may be a necessity. I think I eventually will but some of my methods will have to change. I have already started tying my machines down as if I was already a CDL so that I am good at it. I am running heavy, no doubt, but still under the threshold. I think I will stay under CDL for at least this next year then it will be time to upgrade my trailer. It also goes with my eventually wanting to sell my chipper and get a small horizontal grinder OR go more into road reclamation work and keep chipping and grinding as I am now.
One reason I'm holding onto the chipper is that eventually the EPA phase II requirements for land clearing will be enforced in Texas and shearing and chipping is a Best Management Practice. Right now, almost all commercial land (even outside the footprint of parking lots and buildings) is dozed, burned, or tub grinded. There is virtually no compliance outside the city limits with erosion control or runoff created from dozing BUT my hope is that eventual enforcement will make my methods more valuable though I will be competing with the larger forestry mulchers that also provide a BMP.