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Lafman
12-10-2009, 10:33 PM
Gang,

I'm going to purchase a Shindy Backpack blower Model 802. The problem is it comes in two models, one plain and one with a remote throttle to be used with your left hand.

I'm thinking it would be more comfortable to have the throttle in another hand while using my right hand to swing the tube side to side or is it not a problem to have the throttle control on the tube and leave you a free hand to move patio furniture, open a gate etc.

For what its worth, i've been using a hand-held unit so i have experience with a backpack

Comments welcome.

MajesticUSA
12-10-2009, 11:17 PM
I have a Shindaiwa EB-802 blower it's the remote throttle version with speed control, so your left hand controls the throttle but it can also be free plus you set the blower at any speed you want and it stays. I went with that because my dealer said some guys have had trouble with the "on the tube throttle" Mostly because any blower with the throttle on the blower tube has a unprotected cable that runs down the tube. So when you're blowing out bushes, shrubs, under low trees or in thick brush it can get hung up and rip off if you're not careful. This is one of the flaws (in my and many other impartial landscapers opinions) of the stihl blowers that only come in tube mounted throttle models.

On a side note..... you'll hear a lot of br-600 loyalists on here but most stihl guys have tunnel vision and only buy stihl regardless of who makes the best type of handheld their looking for. Also my stihl dealer even admits the 4mix is not yet a proven design for the long term and I don't want to deal with valve adjustments and 50+ more moving parts in a valve train on a backpack blower. The 4stroke designs are pushed by the EPA not the manufactures, they would make 2 strokes if it was unregulated. The EB802 is NOTICEABLY more powerful than the br600 also.

It's great to see you are going with the Shindaiwa 802, I had mine for a full year now and it runs like a ferrari. I use 89 octane and husqvarna XP synthetic blend oil and I do notice a more power. It's bullet proof You will love it

Turf Dawg
12-10-2009, 11:26 PM
This is a personall preference because one is no better than the other. I prefer the tube mounted throttles. I have one left hand throttle on a Echo and I like the tube mount on my others better. Just remember they put it both ways because everyone has different likes and dislikes.

LALawnboy
12-11-2009, 02:19 AM
Like Turf Dawg, I prefer tube throttles. Over the years, I've had both hip and tube throttles. My main dislike for hip throttles was simply that I had to fold down the throttle when starting the blower and then fold it back up when finished. In addition, to me, it just seemed like it was in the way. I just recently converted an Echo PB-755 over from hip throttle to tube and couldn't be happier.

All in all, it simply comes down to operator preference. Like the other guys have said, that's why companies make both. You won't go wrong with either decision.
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mictrik
12-11-2009, 04:21 AM
I have had my EB802 RT for six months now and it is very powerful and still getting stronger. The unit starts up second pull from cold every time ( a few times with one pull) and 1 pull when warm. The throttle response is great, revs up very quickly and holds RPM dead on. The unit is very solidly built with many metal components rather than plastic seen on other units; for example the choke lever is metal on the EB802. The EB802 takes a while to break in and in the time that i have had mine I have seen its top RPM rise from 6800 when new, to 7100 as of yesterday. All in all I highly recomend this blower...

mictrik
12-11-2009, 11:13 AM
I like both hip and tube throttle setups and both can get hung up. Some say the tube throttle cable is prone to snagging on brush but this seems to be a matter of opinion. The hip throttle cable replacement is a faster to fix than the tube arrangement though sometimes the entire arm snags on the hip throttle. My Echo had the Hip throttle and the only issue i had was that sometimes i would inadvertently shut it off when donning the blower. One advantage of the tube throttle is leaving your left hand free to possibly use a hand-held blower at the same time. This can quicken large cleanups by using the hand-held to contain and direct some of the debris that your backpack is pushing. I really think its a personal opinion unless you live in the northeast where every dealer will likely only have the hip throttle because the dealers like fast quick fixes...

Lafman
12-11-2009, 03:44 PM
Thanks for the info and comments. I was leaning towards the remote model. I too had thought about the cable getting hung on branches, furniture, etc.

ed2hess
12-11-2009, 05:24 PM
Go with remote on the left the other side has problems with cables and wires catching on things and long term they can be a constant problem.

sven1277
12-11-2009, 06:33 PM
I have had several blowers over the years. All but one have had the throttle on the tube. I definitely prefer this setup. There were times the left hand throttle would get in the way when doing bushes tight up around the house. I thought this was more annoying than the cable running down the tube. I have never had a cable rip out and I have had many employees. I twist the tube 1x so the cable wraps around. Personal preferences.

ed2hess
12-11-2009, 07:58 PM
I. I twist the tube 1x so the cable wraps around. Personal preferences.

What brand do you have? Usually the problems occur when the workers twist the tube around one time. It breaks the throttle cable at the carb and/or breaks the on/off wires-not right away but with time. At least that is the failure mode on stihl and echo.

Captsnip
12-12-2009, 09:24 PM
I have a Redmax 7100 with the throttle on the left and a Shindaiwa EB802RT with throttle on the tube. I like them both. You have the option to "cruise control" either one. You can break either throttle setup if you are not paying attention or have workers who abuse your equipment. Like others have said, it comes down to personal preference.

mictrik
12-16-2009, 09:07 AM
I have a Redmax 7100 with the throttle on the left and a Shindaiwa EB802RT with throttle on the tube. I like them both. You have the option to "cruise control" either one. You can break either throttle setup if you are not paying attention or have workers who abuse your equipment. Like others have said, it comes down to personal preference.

Agree! How do you compare the 7100 to the eb802? I have always heard good things about the 7100. Which seems more powerful?

Captsnip
12-16-2009, 10:48 AM
Agree! How do you compare the 7100 to the eb802? I have always heard good things about the 7100. Which seems more powerful?


Mictrik: I think the Redmax 7100 is a great blower. The Shindaiwa EB802 seems to have more power than the 7100. We did two huge leaf jobs where the leaves were soaking wet. Given the conditions both worked as well as could be expected. The EB802 seemed to have a little more power. A friend with a Shindaiwa EB633 helped us a he also thought the EB802 was more powerful. The Redmax 7100 and the Shindaiwa EB633 seem to be about the same. A lot of guys on this site seem to like the Stihl (600 I think). I'm not familiar with the Stihl so can't pass judgment. I can only say I've had nothing but good success with Redmax and Shindaiwa. I use some of their other products as well. I use Echo's synthetic blend in my two cycle equipment. I works well and is only $8.99 (for six bottles) at a local farm equipment dealer.

lawnprosteveo
12-16-2009, 05:59 PM
I bought the 802 this season. It has the throttle on the mount. I like this better because my old EB630's had the remote throttle and that part wore out after 5yrs. A new part would cost over $100...so I can still use it now...but the throttle looks like it needs viagra. Id rather have it on the tube. Just my preference I guess.

mowzilla
12-16-2009, 08:46 PM
Gang,

I'm going to purchase a Shindy Backpack blower Model 802. The problem is it comes in two models, one plain and one with a remote throttle to be used with your left hand.

I'm thinking it would be more comfortable to have the throttle in another hand while using my right hand to swing the tube side to side or is it not a problem to have the throttle control on the tube and leave you a free hand to move patio furniture, open a gate etc.

For what its worth, i've been using a hand-held unit so i have experience with a backpack

Comments welcome.

i own the eb8520rt-right throttle on the tube.. it rules. i had a side throttle on my old redmax.. the rt model shinnys have cruise control, the 'db' reducer mode (which works great as an 'idiot proof' way to blow out beds) and kill switch is on it too.. i demoes both the eb802 and the eb8520 i will tell ya pony up for the eb8520.. the c4 purrs like and cat, kicks like a mule, and sips fuel.. its a little heavier but stronger.. i want a 802 for a second blower.. its awesome too..

shinny rules...all my shinny stuff runs perfect and is dead nuts reliable..

mowzilla
12-16-2009, 08:52 PM
I have a Shindaiwa EB-802 blower it's the remote throttle version with speed control, so your left hand controls the throttle but it can also be free plus you set the blower at any speed you want and it stays. I went with that because my dealer said some guys have had trouble with the "on the tube throttle" Mostly because any blower with the throttle on the blower tube has a unprotected cable that runs down the tube. So when you're blowing out bushes, shrubs, under low trees or in thick brush it can get hung up and rip off if you're not careful. This is one of the flaws (in my and many other impartial landscapers opinions) of the stihl blowers that only come in tube mounted throttle models.

On a side note..... you'll hear a lot of br-600 loyalists on here but most stihl guys have tunnel vision and only buy stihl regardless of who makes the best type of handheld their looking for. Also my stihl dealer even admits the 4mix is not yet a proven design for the long term and I don't want to deal with valve adjustments and 50+ more moving parts in a valve train on a backpack blower. The 4stroke designs are pushed by the EPA not the manufactures, they would make 2 strokes if it was unregulated. The EB802 is NOTICEABLY more powerful than the br600 also.

It's great to see you are going with the Shindaiwa 802, I had mine for a full year now and it runs like a ferrari. I use 89 octane and husqvarna XP synthetic blend oil and I do notice a more power. It's bullet proof You will love it

oh my gosh i gotta jump in on the stihl quote...i work 51 weeks a year 60 hours a weeks 'scaping.. i use a backpack blower all year long.. i use a br 600 and my shinny a lot.. and i tell ya..i freaking hate anything orange and white since i discovered shinny.. let the stihl boys s call me whatever..and say whatever.. shinny is awesome.. second choice: redmax.. period.. i have spent too many friggin days foolin with the stihl stuff as it ages to keep it going.. since i went to shinny is spendin my days making money!! and i have ran the br600 head 2 head with my eb8520..simply no comparison..am i the only person that likes to be productive and perfect?? i can get it cleaner and done faster with my shinny.. all leaf season long week after week..its the best.. i also like the 8001 redmax..

R.L. Hale Landscaping LLC
12-16-2009, 09:11 PM
id get it on right hand tube. Gets all caught up in bushes around houses doing cleanups on left, but it is really a preference. And you really have the blower on max most of the time anyway so it really doesnt matter.

redmax fan
12-17-2009, 02:44 AM
ive ran redmax 7001's 9 years with throttle on the left on the pivot down handle and theyre perfect to me

then for my house i got a great sale on a husquavarna bt150 with a kawasaki motor on it so bought it . thing is great , starts right up and runs smooth .
but it has the throttle on the tube and that feature i hate because the throttle makes the tube heavier and akward . like when i pick it up off ground the weight of the throttle on tube makes the tube swing out away from the blower causing the tube to bump into anything nearby making it a bit of a hassle in tight spaces . then it also sucks starting it because youve got to lean forward a bit to reach throttle

but everyones a different body type and moves differently so its a real individual thing

and another factor is we do alot of lawns on same streets . like say 3 houses together , say each 3 doors down from the other . well for speed and for my own exercise i run from house to house with my whip and or my blower , and i can move alot faster with the throttle on left packs than the akward tube throttles