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mhilton
12-23-2009, 11:08 PM
I bought a 2010 F-350 diesel tonight after my 2004 F-250 6.0 took a **** with 170000 on it. Injectors and FCIM took a **** $4000 to fix. So instead I traded it in and bought somthing new.:hammerhead:

AEL
12-23-2009, 11:15 PM
Nice! You have any pics?

mhilton
12-23-2009, 11:26 PM
I will take some tomorrow I just got home with the truck.

ARP
12-23-2009, 11:50 PM
Congrats! Get some pics up asap! :drinkup:

93turbo
12-24-2009, 12:30 AM
Good deal it seems these 6.4's are built tough and have a lot of untapped potential

Gravel Rat
12-24-2009, 03:48 AM
Lots of people are happy with the 6.4 except for the fuel economy. I posted that you tube link of the F-450 doing donuts. Put a tuner on a 6.4 and you can get some power out of it.

mudmaker
12-24-2009, 06:02 AM
Congrats!!

JDSKIDSTEER
12-24-2009, 07:10 AM
Mine is in the shop now. 70,000 miles and they want $3,700.00 to change injectors. It runs great if you warm the engine up 10 minutes. I told them to leave it alone for now. I just put a new transmission in it. They say the fuel filters were never changed. That's a load of crap. They have been changed several times. It is no secret that this is one of the reasons Ford is building their own engine......Did you get the new Ford built engine?

Junior M
12-24-2009, 09:15 AM
Mine is in the shop now. 70,000 miles and they want $3,700.00 to change injectors. It runs great if you warm the engine up 10 minutes. I told them to leave it alone for now. I just put a new transmission in it. They say the fuel filters were never changed. That's a load of crap. They have been changed several times. It is no secret that this is one of the reasons Ford is building their own engine......Did you get the new Ford built engine?
The tranny had to be a fluke..

ARP
12-24-2009, 09:20 AM
Don't forget my transfer case I had to replace at around 55,000 mi......

JDSKIDSTEER
12-24-2009, 09:33 AM
The tranny had to be a fluke..

Funny thing is, replacement tranny has 100,000 mile warranty. I told them next time I would order a truck with out a transmission and let them install a replacement. They will find a way not to honor the warranty on it any way. I have been selling parts for diesel engines and equipment with diesel engines for 29 years now and never heard of dirty fuel filters causing injectors to fail. Usually the engine won't run if you have a dirty fuel filter. What a joke. Everyone knows about the crapy injectors they have had problems with.

mhilton
12-24-2009, 11:21 PM
No the ford built motor is not out yet at atleast around here it is not expected till midyear maybe. I would not of bought it if it had the ford built motor, or atleast not the first year it is out. This motor compared to the 6.0 is night and day, I also have a 550 with a 6.0 this 6.4 is alot quicker with the same rear my 250 had 3.55. I will post some pics just no time with the holidays and babies first x-mas

farmboy1285
12-24-2009, 11:45 PM
I heard the 6.4 was supposed to be a great engine, fixed everything that was wrong with the 6.0. We need pics!!!

Dirtman2007
12-24-2009, 11:53 PM
Funny thing is, replacement tranny has 100,000 mile warranty. I told them next time I would order a truck with out a transmission and let them install a replacement. They will find a way not to honor the warranty on it any way. I have been selling parts for diesel engines and equipment with diesel engines for 29 years now and never heard of dirty fuel filters causing injectors to fail. Usually the engine won't run if you have a dirty fuel filter. What a joke. Everyone knows about the crapy injectors they have had problems with.

Yeah I know all about the injector problem. Mines been in the shop twice for that and has had the rear seal replaced two or 3 times as it leaked oil leaked all over the place.

Not a good feeling when your 20 miles from home and it starts running on 4 or 5 cylinders as the injectors stopped, smoked like a freight train as well. made it home tho. Cut it off and she never hit a lick till it was towed and fixed at the dealer. All this was under waranty luckly. she has 135K on it now and I've been problem free the last 35K, lets hope it lasts.



oh BTW, Congrats on the new truck! haha

AEL
12-25-2009, 12:51 AM
My 6.0 had the injectors replaced at about 85000 miles, i wanted to upgrade anyway so no big deal. Transmission has been the big problem (3 rebuilt transmisissions in 8 month) but that is caused by the power it puts out and the shop that built the tranny.

The 6.0 is a good realiable motor if you remove the egr, get some good after market head studs and head gasket. Its the heat that kills these motors.

Junior M
12-25-2009, 12:53 AM
the 6.0 I worked out of at my old job had injector issues, I dont know how many miles because I wasnt there when it happened. Just know they did..

Gravel Rat
12-25-2009, 04:07 AM
Synthetic oil is the 6.0s best friend I switched and I noticed a big difference the injectors really like it. Some of the roughness I had with the 6.0 is gone now even the turbo works better because the vane actuator works better with the synthetic oil.

ProTouch Groundscapes
12-25-2009, 11:58 AM
25K miles in the first year of our 6.4 and no issues other than a recall to replace some injector orings that were thought to prematurely wear.

your not supposed to let these trucks idle and warm up for extended periods they build up soot. before i go out plowing, i start the truck up and it sits for maybe 2-5 min at max to get the fluids circulating. I drive to my girlfriends house, bout 10 minutes away and the motor still doesnt get to operating temp, so idling them isnt going to do it.

all ferris
12-26-2009, 10:38 PM
27,000 miles on my 2008 F450 6.4. Great truck, only had to replace the radiator and I have had drive line vibration since new but it runs like a raped ape.

mhilton
12-27-2009, 01:29 PM
Here is a pic of the new rig, Thr truck is 6.4 automatic with manual 4 wheel and a xl package with all power. I am bringing it in to tint the windows tuesday, Has anyone used linex spray layer at all I am thinking about going with linex, I heard alot of unsatissfied customers with rhino linning with it being to soft and thin.

mrsops
12-27-2009, 01:53 PM
Here is a pic of the new rig, Thr truck is 6.4 automatic with manual 4 wheel and a xl package with all power. I am bringing it in to tint the windows tuesday, Has anyone used linex spray layer at all I am thinking about going with linex, I heard alot of unsatissfied customers with rhino linning with it being to soft and thin.

Did you buy that at buhler ford?

mhilton
12-27-2009, 01:58 PM
yeah are you from the area, a much better dealership then sansone, there was no sales pitch no bs

mrsops
12-27-2009, 02:00 PM
yeah are you from the area, a much better dealership then sansone, there was no sales pitch no bs

my father bought his f-350 over there.. They gave him a good deal

mhilton
12-27-2009, 02:03 PM
Yeah that is what I bought f-350 longbed, All american ford in hackensack is real good to.

NEUSWEDE
12-27-2009, 02:57 PM
Nice Truck! I am looking at a new one right now since the depreciation is up on my pick-up, But they can't find the truck I want been searching myself for 4 months turned my search over to the dealer and looks like I might need to order a truck which I'm not excited about since it will cost more than one on a lot.

Defintely go with the line-x. I did my pick-up the day a bought it 5 years ago and still looks great bunch of dents in the bed and still sticking. I will line-x every truck I ever own. Do it off the bat, if you wait and it get scrathched and rusty they charge you more.

Any other plans for it?

mhilton
12-27-2009, 03:03 PM
Yeah rims, tires, air intake, Exhaust, and some cosmetic That is why I bought a xl and not a xlt, I get to build it up and I really like the rubber floor no rugs. I hated that about my old truck. it was the same truck but a 04 xlt.

Gravel Rat
12-27-2009, 04:03 PM
One good thing is you can get the XL with the better front grill not the hideous XL with the seal beam lights.

ProTouch Groundscapes
12-27-2009, 11:07 PM
yea, those sealed beams look like shite, but yours looks good and ready to be worked!

dirtybiz
12-28-2009, 04:11 PM
You'll love it, i have an 08 6.4 with 40k on it without any problems. The biggest thing on the 6.4 is to make sure you keep the fuel filters changed every 15k. Mileage is not great, but i usually averaged about 14-15, which is just about as good as any 6.0 i have ever been around. Probably the best/nicest built truck i have ever owned. I hated the emissions equip. on mine, and just recently lost the dpf and added Spartan tuner (no mileage numbers yet).

If you got 170k out of your 6.0 without any major problems you are doing very well. I had an 03 that went through a couple of injectors & sensors every winter i owned (only had it for two, then get as far away as possible). I knew i would never own another one, after that, went to dodge for a couple of years, and now i am back.

My brother and dad both have 6.0's and both spent a good 3-4k a piece on them this summer (one w/80k and another w/100k). They both needed injectors and a few other things (sensors,etc.), and my brothers still won't idle correctly!!

I hope the new 6.7L powerstroke is as good as the 6.4l, because it has totally impressed me so far, and would buy another in a heart beat (if i could afford it!).

mhilton
12-28-2009, 06:09 PM
Just from driving the truck a few days I can tell such a difference from the 6.0. I was close to buying a 2010 dodge 2500 cummins but the truck is not is no quality

NEUSWEDE
12-28-2009, 07:10 PM
Well my dealer called me today and finally found my truck it is going to take a few days to get here but the good news is it just rolled out of production 3 weeks ago and it is a killer price.

GWhunter
12-28-2009, 07:31 PM
What kind of discounts are you guys seeing on these 350's? I was planning on dumping my 6.0 in the spring and I'm really torn between the 6.4 and a duramax. The 6.0 just left a bad taste in my mouth. I was plannning on keeping the 6.0 a long time but the repairs are just too much for my taste. I also really like the fit and finish of the new fords. I just want the next truck to run problem free(with normal maintenance) for at least 8 years. I don't put a ton of miles on. I'm looking a lightly used 08's now but the prices aren't too far off new. So I'm thinking it may actually be cheaper to go new.But haven't seen any great discounts yet.

Matt:confused:

NEUSWEDE
12-28-2009, 07:33 PM
What kind of discounts are you guys seeing on these 350's? I was planning on dumping my 6.0 in the spring and I'm really torn between the 6.4 and a duramax. The 6.0 just left a bad taste in my mouth. I was plannning on keeping the 6.0 a long time but the repairs are just too much for my taste. I also really like the fit and finish of the new fords. I just want the next truck to run problem free(with normal maintenance) for at least 8 years. I don't put a ton of miles on. I'm looking a lightly used 08's now but the prices aren't too far off new. So I'm thinking it may actually be cheaper to go new.But haven't seen any great discounts yet.

Matt:confused:

where in new england are you?

GWhunter
12-28-2009, 07:39 PM
I'm in NE Conn. I've been looking at a couple at Sarat. But they want close to new on a 08 350 CC SB 6.4 Lariat with 33k on it. I don't need a lariat but a CC SB is a must.

Matt

mhilton
12-28-2009, 08:25 PM
I paid 40 out the door the 6.4 is a whole different animal then that 6.0 I have a 07 f-550 with a 6.0 and going from one truck to the next is night and day and the 6.4 is built a lot better there is a lot of german engineering on them.

gene gls
12-28-2009, 08:39 PM
I'm in NE Conn. I've been looking at a couple at Sarat. But they want close to new on a 08 350 CC SB 6.4 Lariat with 33k on it. I don't need a lariat but a CC SB is a must.

Matt

I have been watching Sarat Ford and Family Ford in Enfield. I got sticker shock, supply is limmited. They haven't offered me any encouragement on price to stop in and talk. GMC and Chevy stock is next to nill.

NEUSWEDE
12-28-2009, 09:38 PM
usually its the other way around but some of you southern NE guys should drive to Maine! Ill let you know the what my price is once I sign the papers and I think you guys will gladly drive here for a deal.

GWhunter
12-29-2009, 08:15 AM
I hear you on the GM stock. They're few and far between, I think Sarat is willing to come down but I feel there a few grand too high to start with and the finacing on used isn't fantastic. I'll definatly be getting a good long extended warranty since owning these complicated trucks out of warranty is a good way to go broke. Does anyone know why the early builds didn't get the front air dam upgrades that the newer ones have? Was there a recall about this and radiator isssues? I have no issues with driving to find what I'm looking for. I've been looking all over the country but with a trade it's tough.

Matt:dizzy:

ProTouch Groundscapes
12-29-2009, 12:51 PM
i would stay away from 08 6.4's. there are good ones out there but the majority of them had many issues. if you must, make sure its a job 3 or newer.

GWhunter
12-29-2009, 01:39 PM
i would stay away from 08 6.4's. there are good ones out there but the majority of them had many issues. if you must, make sure its a job 3 or newer.

What kind of problems? I know about the radiator issues but what else? Any of these trucks will be under factory warranty so I really don't see a ton of risk. Is your a j3 build? Did you buy new? What did you pay(ballpark)? PM if you don't mind. Thanks

Matt

Gravel Rat
12-29-2009, 06:59 PM
I know a couple guys with job 1 trucks no problems with them the trucks are well used what do you expect from loggers.

I think the most problems come from the owner and the dealer they get their truck worked on at.

dirtybiz
12-29-2009, 08:17 PM
i would stay away from 08 6.4's. there are good ones out there but the majority of them had many issues. if you must, make sure its a job 3 or newer.

That's funny cuz mine is a job 2 w/40k on it with absolutely no problems. I know a construction supervisor w/job1 w/80k+ w/one radiator replaced and that's it! I am sure their are exceptions and yes the job ones had issues w/radiators and flames out the tail pipes due to poor computer programming, all of which have been adressed a long time age!

As stated i would definately do my homework on a job 1 truck, but if the updates/repairs have already been done i would not worry about it. Your best bet would be a job 2 or 3 or newer.

Gravel Rat
12-29-2009, 09:10 PM
I had a person pull up beside me today to ask directions the person driving a 6.4 and my 6.0. The 6.0 is louder than the 6.4 that you could barely hear and the exhaust smell doesn't even smell like diesel coming out the 6.4.

The 08 and newer trucks have grown on me I don't mind the look of them now. When they first came out it was ugly.

Still not sold on the interior but a person could get used to it. I have gotten to look at a job 1 2007.5 and a 2009 side by side both loaded up XLTs they are pretty much the same. Open the hood I didn't see any changes.

Then you think who in their right mind would pay close to 78 grand for a pick up the payments are over 1600 a month.

The local dealer has a 2010 F-350 Supercab 4x4 5.4 gasser XLT for 51,000 are you freaking nuts with tax its 58,000 dollars monthly payment 1200 for 4 years.

mudmaker
12-29-2009, 10:11 PM
I was on fords website last night and did a build and price on a new F350 4X4 CC DRW cab & chassis, XLT (pretty much loaded). came out MSRP of 47K.
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mhilton
12-29-2009, 10:33 PM
Was it a diesel upgrade which is nearly 10,000

mudmaker
12-29-2009, 11:41 PM
Was it a diesel upgrade which is nearly 10,000

Yes it was a diesel. I did spec a 6spd man tranny though so that saved nearly 2k.
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mhilton
12-30-2009, 12:05 PM
that price is off about 10,000

mudmaker
12-30-2009, 12:13 PM
that price is off about 10,000

Here is the summary from the ford website.

mhilton
12-30-2009, 02:14 PM
Thats not loaded thats a xl power package for that the price is right, the loaded models are 57,000 - 62,000, you should be able to get a xl power package for 42,000 out the door

mudmaker
12-30-2009, 04:03 PM
Thats not loaded thats a xl power package for that the price is right, the loaded models are 57,000 - 62,000, you should be able to get a xl power package for 42,000 out the door

It is an XLT. How much are you seeing the dealers taking off the msrp? I have not purchased a new pickup since 02 and at that time they were able to come off about 6k from sticker.

curtisfarmer
12-30-2009, 04:20 PM
Hey everybody, long time reader/ first time poster. I'll post my intro when I make my first thread soon. I bought a 08 450 6.4 and I love it. Beast for sure sompared to the 3500 Duramax Im used to and the 99 Taurus I drove for over 8 years (being the only guy in the dirt bus. who drives a Taurus, but my stuff is paid for and now have new truck). I am in shock at the prices I see here, I paid $33.750 with a Heil dump brandnew right before thanksgiving 08. Inventory is sure down around here but no where near the prices I see on this tread. The prices GR mentioned are crazy even if C$.

The engine is scary, we all know how $ problems can be. I bought the 6 year/ 100K warranty they call " Premium Care" for $3800. The messed up and admitted the correct price should have been $4500. Regardless, I still would have paid and I feel great knowing I have the warranty.

Problems, not many. Ujoint bolts worked themselves out causing vibration. Milage was 7.6 to the mile!!!!!!!! Ouch!!!! They reprogrammed the motor for some recall and my milage is now around 10+/-

Overall, best truck for the $ I could find. Love the sound of the 6.4 turbo, sounds like a turbine. The 450 over the 350 is night and day, glad I bought the 450.

mhilton
12-30-2009, 07:03 PM
well I bought mine for 40 out the door and the sticker was 45,900 And the loaded xlt leather and navigation where 57,000 I could have bought one out the door for 51,000 out the door

mhilton
12-30-2009, 07:11 PM
In 07 I bought a 550 mason dump for 41,000 out the door the truck prices went up with all the emissions crap they put on them and these engines are put together alot better then the 6.0 These motors are capable of a lot of power. Thry just do not get the fuel millege the older motors got. With the 6.4 I am getting about 13 mpg and I only have 400 miles on the truck. II figure once I do intake and exhaust and the motor gets broken in I should see 15 to 16 highway of course

mudmaker
12-30-2009, 11:46 PM
well I bought mine for 40 out the door and the sticker was 45,900 And the loaded xlt leather and navigation where 57,000 I could have bought one out the door for 51,000 out the door

That sounds about right for the out the door prices. Ya I wasn't figuring prices on a lariat w/ navigation. I was figuring a xlt with most options as fairly loaded.

I am actually surprised at the prices. My 02 had a sticker of 43k when I ordered it. Really not that much difference in prices when it comes down to what all is offered as options on the new ones. My 02 is a lariat w/ just about every option available, but it is closer to the current XLT's than the current lariat's. They are putting many more amenities on these now!

mhilton
12-31-2009, 09:40 AM
Yeah truck prices are insane now I was looking at a king ranch and they wanted 63,000

ProTouch Groundscapes
12-31-2009, 12:31 PM
from what ive read about owners on ford diesel forums issues can include: radiators, venturi "t" updates, dpf/regen programming, charge air cooler issues, injector orings, truck shutting down or going into limp mode at random times.

as was said most of this had been updated/fixed through many tsb's. now, the reason i am leery of 08's is that i see so many of them for sale with anywhere between 18-30K miles, that gets you thinking why the owner got rid of the truck.

like i said, i know there are many early 08 trucks with no issues, but the way i see it, getting a newer build is a safer bet.

my truck is an 09 late build 6.4L F350 4x4, single rear wheel, crew cab, long bed, lariat package.

sticker was 55K
-i got employee pricing promotion
-i traded in my monte carlo
-we purchased extended warranties for drivetrain, electrical, corrosion, since we plow, the truck is covered to 200K miles i believe.
-bed liner, weathertech floor mats front and back, carpet/leather coating
we paid 46K out the door.

mhilton
12-31-2009, 01:13 PM
When the new fords came out in 08 I heard A lot of horror stories but late 08 into 09 those stories dwindled, Mine is 2010 and it is the best made / running ford I ever owned.

dirtybiz
12-31-2009, 01:17 PM
Yeah truck prices are insane now I was looking at a king ranch and they wanted 63,000

you can thank the emissions for alot of that, the new 6.7's are only gonna be worse. I have hears another 2-3k! The new dodges went up about 2k just for their restyle, even though their powertrain did not change!

mhilton
12-31-2009, 01:26 PM
The 6.7 is going to have a injection system that will have to be fill with your oil changes, I test drove the dodge side by side with ford and this is the first time I think dodge was underpowered compared to the ford. Has anyone used the banks air intake on the 6,4 I am going to put one in the spring

mudmaker
12-31-2009, 04:54 PM
Check out Ford Truck Enthusiest 6.4 section. I am sure there are guys on there who have tried or have recommendations on intakes.

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/forum169/

dirtybiz
12-31-2009, 06:52 PM
The 6.7 is going to have a injection system that will have to be fill with your oil changes, I test drove the dodge side by side with ford and this is the first time I think dodge was underpowered compared to the ford. Has anyone used the banks air intake on the 6,4 I am going to put one in the spring

Most of the 6.4 guys are running the S&B, i am just running a green drop in filter which works great and keeps the stock air intake. I have heard of a couple of guys who complained about the noise of aftermarket intakes on the 6.4 and ended up going back to stock intake box w/green filter and claiming it was just as good. $80 bucks compared to $260.

WGLandscapeMaintenance
01-03-2010, 09:17 AM
25K miles in the first year of our 6.4 and no issues other than a recall to replace some injector orings that were thought to prematurely wear.

your not supposed to let these trucks idle and warm up for extended periods they build up soot. before i go out plowing, i start the truck up and it sits for maybe 2-5 min at max to get the fluids circulating. I drive to my girlfriends house, bout 10 minutes away and the motor still doesnt get to operating temp, so idling them isnt going to do it.

The is why these emission diesels I have a love/hate relationship with, that damn dpf is nothing but a waste, how can it be better for the earth if it burns a gallon of diesel burning the soot?
I love em because they've got a ton of power and a ton of potential.
Diesels are meant to run for a good amount of time before stress is put on em pulling, plowing etc and get to optimum running temp, otherwise you wreck head gaskets and who knows what else.
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WGLandscapeMaintenance
01-03-2010, 09:38 AM
And with further reading of this thread, a guy said they go into limp mode at random times? That's sure safe, goin down the freeway @ 70 w/ a load and it all the sudden slows down to 10mph, talk about safe, when u get hit, that means the cops burn gas to get there, firetrucks and ambulences burn diesel to get to the scene.

That is of course if the limp mode is a dpf related incident...
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Scag48
01-03-2010, 12:57 PM
Do you seriously think a truck goes into limp mode purposely? Wow.

WGLandscapeMaintenance
01-03-2010, 01:06 PM
from what ive read about owners on ford diesel forums issues can include: radiators, venturi "t" updates, dpf/regen programming, charge air cooler issues, injector orings, truck shutting down or going into limp mode at random times.

as was said most of this had been updated/fixed through many tsb's. now, the reason i am leery of 08's is that i see so many of them for sale with anywhere between 18-30K miles, that gets you thinking why the owner got rid of the truck.

like i said, i know there are many early 08 trucks with no issues, but the way i see it, getting a newer build is a safer bet.

my truck is an 09 late build 6.4L F350 4x4, single rear wheel, crew cab, long bed, lariat package.

sticker was 55K
-i got employee pricing promotion
-i traded in my monte carlo
-we purchased extended warranties for drivetrain, electrical, corrosion, since we plow, the truck is covered to 200K miles i believe.
-bed liner, weathertech floor mats front and back, carpet/leather coating
we paid 46K out the door.

Read in bold buddy then you will see what I meant by that post
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AEL
01-03-2010, 01:17 PM
yea they do go into limp mode purposely. To protect the engine/ components from damage.

WGLandscapeMaintenance
01-03-2010, 01:41 PM
yea they do go into limp mode purposely. To protect the engine/ components from damage.

Yeah, usually occurs (in dmaxs at least) when you've got some heavy mods and the tranny isn't beefed up
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93turbo
01-03-2010, 04:21 PM
The is why these emission diesels I have a love/hate relationship with, that damn dpf is nothing but a waste, how can it be better for the earth if it burns a gallon of diesel burning the soot?
I love em because they've got a ton of power and a ton of potential.
Diesels are meant to run for a good amount of time before stress is put on em pulling, plowing etc and get to optimum running temp, otherwise you wreck head gaskets and who knows what else.
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allowing a diesel to idle more then a few minutes to warm up fluids is a waste of fuel. Older diesels would actually cool off if left idleing and cause whats called wet stacking where all the fuel doesn't burn and it starts washing the oil off the cylinder walls causing increased wear. Granted the newer diesels increase idle speed and some have exhaust restrictions devices to aid in keeping them warm but to get a diesel to its operating temp it has to be worked. I know guys that have removed their fan during winter to try and gain some MPGs cause they don't need them

Scag48
01-03-2010, 10:59 PM
Yeah, usually occurs (in dmaxs at least) when you've got some heavy mods and the tranny isn't beefed up
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Okay, I read it out of context. I thought you meant these trucks were supposed to go into limp mode on a regular basis. I just coudln't wrap my mind around that statement. Haha. I do understand the purpose of limp mode, to protect from more serious damage when something bad has already happened. Sorry man, my bad.

WGLandscapeMaintenance
01-04-2010, 02:49 AM
allowing a diesel to idle more then a few minutes to warm up fluids is a waste of fuel. Older diesels would actually cool off if left idleing and cause whats called wet stacking where all the fuel doesn't burn and it starts washing the oil off the cylinder walls causing increased wear. Granted the newer diesels increase idle speed and some have exhaust restrictions devices to aid in keeping them warm but to get a diesel to its operating temp it has to be worked. I know guys that have removed their fan during winter to try and gain some MPGs cause they don't need them

Is that not what a cold guard (over the grill) is for?

93turbo
01-04-2010, 02:22 PM
yeah but why not try and pick up a couple mpg's by reducing parasitic loss by not turn the giant fan on these things plus its free and doesn't change the look of the truck

JDSKIDSTEER
02-21-2010, 04:47 PM
Update on the F350. I took it to another dealer and they changed injectors under warranty and extended the engine warranty to 200,000 miles for $1,800.00 and now we are sending it to another location and replacing with a F550 with a 6.4.

dirtybiz
02-22-2010, 11:16 AM
Update on the F350. I took it to another dealer and they changed injectors under warranty and extended the engine warranty to 200,000 miles for $1,800.00 and now we are sending it to another location and replacing with a F550 with a 6.4.

What was going on with it, and why would you trade it after you just spent $1,800 on an extended warranty good for 200k?? I have not heard of injectors going out on the 6.4, but i am sure their are some out there. VERY common problem for the 6.0's (among other things).