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meets1
12-28-2009, 08:51 PM
I do a lot of work for a client who just bought a new 2010 350 ford, single wheel, long bed, crew cab. Traded his ford diesel in for a V-10. He said the dealer told him that no 3/4 trucks were coming with the new diesels - only 350 and up. Also said last year for the V-10 as ford now is coming with a 6.2 liter to chase or beat chevy's 6.0 liter.
Truth or myth about this ford info. Reason to get gas - dealer told hiw with shorter trips - diesel will be no good do to emisison stuff. dealer told him he'll be the shop more with that truck than in his own garage. This is the new diesel therefore him going with a V-10 and getting 2010.

JB1
12-28-2009, 08:59 PM
the diesels 6.7 will be in the 250's as well. I have been hearing good things about them, pricey but good.

WH401
12-28-2009, 11:00 PM
No, the 6.7's will definitely be in all of the Superduty models. Is it the last year of the V10? no, I don't think so. I believe the 6.2 V8 is being built to replace the 5.4 as the standard engine offering, with the V10 still being an option. The dealer didn't sell him short on the "diesel wouldn't be good for short trips due to the emissions package" thing. If your client makes short trips, particularly ones where the engine may not get fully warm, than yeah, he'd be better off with the gasser.

I have to agree with JB1, everything I've been hearing about the new Superduty drivetrain has been nothing but good, though it'll probably end up pricey in the end.

Gravel Rat
12-28-2009, 11:49 PM
The V-10s are supposed to be discontinued in 250-350 pickup trucks the 450-550 will still have the V-10.

The 6.4 option in a truck in Canada is already 8 grand the new 6.7 will be probably 10 grand. A new diesel pickup truck isn't worth buying the fuel mileage isn't that good. The maintenance costs are way too much.

Oldtimer
12-29-2009, 10:16 AM
http://www.ford-trucks.com/


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johnnybravo8802
12-29-2009, 12:04 PM
I'm looking at a 2006 F550 with a V-10 for $18,200. It's an XLT, flatbed/gooseneck, 52,000, and looks great(I drove it). I have called dealers from all over and every single one says to not get a 6.0 or 6.4. One mechanic said, "If not for the diesels, we wouldn't have a job". The V-10 is really a no brainer with $17.95 oil changes, cheaper unleaded fuel that you can find anywhere, cheaper initial costs, etc. I spoke to a dealer yesterday that said that "You don't want to see the cost of a new truck". He mentioned that last year, $20,000 expeditions are now back up to $60,000 and people are choking when they see the new prices. I was wanting to go with a new Dodge 4500 and he mentioned that in 2010, they'll have the new body style with an actual "crew cab" and the prices won't be very negotiable. I am a Dodge fan but with the diesel problems and rising fuel costs, I am really considering going with the V-10 in the Ford. Also, the V-10 gets better mileage than the 6.4!!!!!!!!!:dizzy::dizzy:

Oldtimer
12-29-2009, 12:19 PM
Be sure to get an Oasis Report before you buy.


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grassman177
12-29-2009, 05:12 PM
we love our v-10, we have one in a 250, and two in 350s. i see that the v-10 will only be offered in 350 package though, i wonder why. they are really beefing up the gassers i see too. wow, we have several 5.4 and they have been great, but now a 6.2 and even a 6.7. that is a huge v8 man, my god. i hope the mileage is ok with that. i bet it feels every but of ballsy as the v-10 in most conditions.

Gravel Rat
12-29-2009, 07:40 PM
Bring back the old workhorse gas engine the 460 you couldn't beat those engines they did like the fuel thou.

JB1
12-29-2009, 08:00 PM
I have had some tell me the new diesels are getting a lot better mileage, couldn't be any worse, hope its true.

J&R Landscaping
12-31-2009, 12:16 AM
The mileage on the newer diesels isn't that great till about 10,000 miles or so. Then it gradually gets better. The DPF burn-off hurts but not as bad as some say.

Junior M
12-31-2009, 12:23 AM
that 6.2 is goin to be a badass motor if it turns out anything like the 6.0.

I hate a gas 3/4ton truck, but honestly I love my 2500hd with the 6.0. It'll flat out get up and go!

ranger350
01-02-2010, 12:58 PM
What they should do for pickup truck diesels is reduce the power levels, there is no need for 700-800 ft/lb torque in a pickup. Then you might start seeing some decent fuel mileage figures. But I guess like anything its all about marketing and someone always has to have the bigger dick

AEL
01-02-2010, 11:56 PM
Reduce the power levels? Seriously? If you actually tow close to what these things are rated for, you wouldnt be saying that. And the fuel mileage is directly related to the emissions crap. My F250 6.0 has around 600 hp (depending on what tune I use) and i can get 18mpg highway.

GravelyNut
01-04-2010, 07:21 PM
we love our v-10, we have one in a 250, and two in 350s. i see that the v-10 will only be offered in 350 package though, i wonder why. they are really beefing up the gassers i see too. wow, we have several 5.4 and they have been great, but now a 6.2 and even a 6.7. that is a huge v8 man, my god. i hope the mileage is ok with that. i bet it feels every but of ballsy as the v-10 in most conditions.
6.7 a huge V-8.:laugh: That equals about 408 CI and cars long ago had engines that big. In a small block size. AMC ran a 401 in the same block size as a 290. 40 years ago. Chevy 454 and Ford 460 V-8s were big engines. When you want to talk about a huge block V-8 gas engine, step up to 8 liters or more.

GravelyNut
01-04-2010, 07:26 PM
What they should do for pickup truck diesels is reduce the power levels, there is no need for 700-800 ft/lb torque in a pickup. Then you might start seeing some decent fuel mileage figures. But I guess like anything its all about marketing and someone always has to have the bigger dick

Try towing a load in the mountains. Then you'd see the need for high torque levels. To keep 15K lbs moving at 65 MPH up a 5% grade takes a good bit and having more to spare is never a bad thing.

Junior M
01-04-2010, 11:56 PM
Try towing a load in the mountains. Then you'd see the need for high torque levels. To keep 15K lbs moving at 65 MPH up a 5% grade takes a good bit and having more to spare is never a bad thing.
you'll never have enough power.. :usflag: