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Bleed Green
01-08-2010, 12:03 PM
Ax Men is back on History Channel this Sunday 9est/8cst.

Junior M
01-08-2010, 12:05 PM
cant wait.. :cool2:

Has anyone heard what companies are returning?

I know JM browning is back. I just hope Pihl comes back...

cddva
01-08-2010, 12:06 PM
Swamp Loggers returns to Discovery Channel on 1/15 (not sure of the time).

Bleed Green
01-08-2010, 12:39 PM
cant wait.. :cool2:

Has anyone heard what companies are returning?

I know JM browning is back. I just hope Pihl comes back...

There is a preview on hsitorychannel.com that might tell. There is a crazy swamp logger guy that wrestles crocs I saw on there.

Junior M
01-08-2010, 12:41 PM
There is a preview on hsitorychannel.com that might tell. There is a crazy swamp logger guy that wrestles crocs I saw on there.
Yeah, I remember seeing him on the commercial on TV...

wanabe
01-08-2010, 12:43 PM
I just want James and Jimmy(aqua logers) back LOL!

curtisfarmer
01-08-2010, 12:46 PM
How about American Loggers, I liked the HUGE trucks they (Pelletiers out of Millinocket, ME) were running......470,000 lbs!!:clapping:

coopers
01-08-2010, 01:00 PM
Looks like they're starting to get too cocky with this show. It's all about show now and who's got a bigger...well whatever. I liked the first season, it was about logging. Machines, saws, logs. We'll see what this season produces.

Junior M
01-08-2010, 01:02 PM
Looks like they're starting to get too cocky with this show. It's all about show now and who's got a bigger...well whatever. I liked the first season, it was about logging. Machines, saws, logs. We'll see what this season produces.
You've got a good point, but I'd rather watch this show than some show on HGTV where some jackass rented a mini ex and is attempting to dig his own foundation or grade his backyard..

stuvecorp
01-08-2010, 01:22 PM
You've got a good point, but I'd rather watch this show than some show on HGTV where some jackass rented a mini ex and is attempting to dig his own foundation or grade his backyard..

What? They said they would never show anyone that tape.:cry:

Junior M
01-08-2010, 01:30 PM
What? They said they would never show anyone that tape.:cry:
It was you?!

I thought it was Kaiser.. :laugh:

Jason Rose
01-08-2010, 01:33 PM
I'll be watching. I thought the last couple season were definately cool Not a big fan of the "drama" the have to put in there. I guess the think that the reality tv aspect is what keeps the most people intrested... No, Most guys are watching because of the equipment and the 'how do they do that' factor. We don't care who got their panties in a wad because another worker called them a name...

FYS777
01-08-2010, 01:53 PM
I know I've lost interest in the show. it is getting to stupid!!! i don't think a chain saw coming out from being submerged will start very good. but maybe if it was a Husky then i might consider it.. :):)

ksss
01-08-2010, 02:03 PM
I know I've lost interest in the show. it is getting to stupid!!! i don't think a chain saw coming out from being submerged will start very good. but maybe if it was a Husky then i might consider it.. :):)

I am with you, I don't get a lot out of watching this show. I would rather watch how Hitler got his ass kicked for 100th time on the History channel than these jokers cutting trees and mocking it up for the camera.


As far as your comment Junior, I will admit I laughed.:laugh: However then I remembered that you rent EVERYTHING you use, so who would that show most likely depict me or YOU?:waving: Besides I will bet that your due to have your lunch money taken and your afternoon wedgy to take place......you know the drill!:cool2:

FYS777
01-08-2010, 02:11 PM
I am with you, I don't get a lot out of watching this show. I would rather watch how Hitler got his ass kicked for 100th time on the History channel than these jokers cutting trees and mocking it up for the camera.


As far as your comment Junior, I will admit I laughed.:laugh: However then I remembered that you rent EVERYTHING you use, so who would that show most likely depict me or YOU?:waving: Besides I will bet that your due to have your lunch money taken and your afternoon wedgy to take place......you know the drill!:cool2:

ya, being in the logging indust, for 25 years i watch it and all i can say is ( goood grief) i died laughing at the Aqua loggers though, if you could call them loggers?

Gravel Rat
01-08-2010, 02:28 PM
I like the show with the french log haulers. The others showing logging in the USA is funny it is archiac practices and safety isn't a priority.

wanabe
01-08-2010, 04:21 PM
I am with you, I don't get a lot out of watching this show. I would rather watch how Hitler got his ass kicked for 100th time on the History channel than these jokers cutting trees and mocking it up for the camera.


As far as your comment Junior, I will admit I laughed.:laugh: However then I remembered that you rent EVERYTHING you use, so who would that show most likely depict me or YOU?:waving: Besides I will bet that your due to have your lunch money taken and your afternoon wedgy to take place......you know the drill!:cool2:


OMG that is so true!

DUSTYCEDAR
01-08-2010, 04:33 PM
Let the chips fly

Dirtman2007
01-08-2010, 05:48 PM
I just want James and Jimmy(aqua logers) back LOL!

That was so dumb it was funny. I'd push my old man off the damn boat if he yelled at me that much. They made it a little dramatic but it was good for laughs. I heard they got into trouble with the state for pulling logs from the river and selling them.

jimmyjack
01-08-2010, 06:15 PM
did anyone else ever watch the very short season from SAW FOR HIRE before they where taking off tlc , god that guy was such a dumbass

Scag48
01-08-2010, 06:30 PM
I heard they got into trouble with the state for pulling logs from the river and selling them.

WA State Fish & Wildlife went after them. All I can say is good luck, fisheries will destroy you if given the opportunity.

Last season the show was way too dramatic for me but I'll give it another chance. I only really really watched for Pihl and the Rygaard boys, Browning's kid is a little sally and his old man needs to beat his ass, what a whiner. I thought only real men were loggers? Acting like that on a dirt job would get you two checks.

Gravel Rat
01-08-2010, 06:46 PM
Scag, Fisheries is no different here you cause problems boy they will rip you a new butt hole real quick. A company could go out of business from the fines involved.

old oak lawn
01-08-2010, 06:57 PM
did anyone else ever watch the very short season from SAW FOR HIRE before they where taking off tlc , god that guy was such a dumbass

Loved that show, he was a nut but you know he had to be playing it up for the cameras. I think he was trying to push his show to the top by giving them what they want DRAMA.

Junior M
01-08-2010, 07:27 PM
I am with you, I don't get a lot out of watching this show. I would rather watch how Hitler got his ass kicked for 100th time on the History channel than these jokers cutting trees and mocking it up for the camera.


As far as your comment Junior, I will admit I laughed.:laugh: However then I remembered that you rent EVERYTHING you use, so who would that show most likely depict me or YOU?:waving: Besides I will bet that your due to have your lunch money taken and your afternoon wedgy to take place......you know the drill!:cool2:

I guess that joke came back to bite me in the ass..

:laugh:

And I am not the one being bullied, I am known to flip s#it a little bit when I get pissed off.. :laugh: :gunsfirin

did anyone else ever watch the very short season from SAW FOR HIRE before they where taking off tlc , god that guy was such a dumbass

Never saw that one?

FYS777
01-08-2010, 07:35 PM
I guess that joke came back to bite me in the ass..

:laugh:

And I am not the one being bullied, I am known to flip s#it a little bit when I get pissed off.. :laugh: :gunsfirin



Never saw that one?

ha ha I'm giggling now!!!!!!!

YellowDogSVC
01-08-2010, 07:48 PM
I like the show with the french log haulers. .

sounds like you found a porn channel GR.. :nono::canadaflag:

Gravel Rat
01-08-2010, 07:55 PM
I couldn't remember the name of the show all I remember is they are french decent they definatly don't have a american accent. They must have been originally from Quebec Canada.

I do have to laugh when I watched the episode when they put the new Western Star tridrive on the road :laugh:

They are common as mud in Western Canada ie B.C. and Alberta the tridrives don't turn worth sh*t they go one direction and thats straight.

bobcat_ron
01-08-2010, 08:50 PM
Anything is better than Ice Road Fairies and Operation repo.

ioilyouin
01-09-2010, 08:19 AM
was Saw for Hire based in OK?

curtisfarmer
01-09-2010, 09:38 AM
GR,

I posted this before, these are the guys you are talking about:

How about American Loggers, I liked the HUGE trucks they (Pelletiers out of Millinocket, ME) were running......470,000 lbs!!

jimmyjack
01-09-2010, 10:25 AM
was Saw for Hire based in OK?

yup thats the guy

Ground Effects NH
01-10-2010, 07:39 PM
Ax Men is back on History Channel this Sunday 9est/8cst.

Sunday 7:00pm est repeats, nice start:dizzy: :sleeping:
You know, I forgot how bad the show is !!

Junior M
01-10-2010, 08:30 PM
its not that bad guys..

Would you rather watch a logging show or some clueless homeowner attempting to remod a house?

Junior M
01-10-2010, 09:11 PM
Holy crap, look who is running the yarder for Pihl! :eek:

I did like him though, he reminds me of me. Not physically, mostly on how he does things.. ;)

FYS777
01-10-2010, 09:17 PM
this is cracking me up as i watch wright now, there is no way in heck an outfit would let a green horn rig a tree.!!!!!!!!!!!

FYS777
01-10-2010, 09:19 PM
all for show!!!

FYS777
01-10-2010, 09:23 PM
doowap needs an attitude ajustment.!!!

Junior M
01-10-2010, 09:25 PM
slow your roll FYS, your ahead of me! I have yet to see doowap or any greenhorn rig a tree? ;)

Dirtman2007
01-10-2010, 09:26 PM
oh lord look at this swamp man going ofter logs... this shall be interesting

FYS777
01-10-2010, 09:28 PM
I can't believe the are running butt riggin with a rider block, thats old, they should run an MSP dropline carriage with a 100 foot dropline, so they could pre-set the turns, it would up there production by 30%.

Bleed Green
01-10-2010, 09:28 PM
this swamp guy is nuts! He is just diving right in after alligators LOL.

Dirtman2007
01-10-2010, 09:30 PM
this swamp guy is nuts!

I will either grab the alligators head or tail, can't see him tho.

WTF, My ass wouldn't leave the boat:laugh:

FYS777
01-10-2010, 09:31 PM
they should be pre-setting on the sky cars also. it would up ther production also...

Bleed Green
01-10-2010, 09:33 PM
I will either grab the alligators head or tail, can't see him tho.

WTF, My ass wouldn't leave the boat:laugh:

I would never be going out on that boat. Screw getting a new barge, I would be finding a safer job to make some money.

FYS777
01-10-2010, 09:34 PM
Omg.........

FYS777
01-10-2010, 09:37 PM
and that is why i didn't like sky cars.

Bleed Green
01-10-2010, 09:40 PM
ya that looked like he may not be able to work for a while.

FYS777
01-10-2010, 09:43 PM
the only thing is, is usualy ya pack another drop line for the carriage, u use a torch to cut the bad one out. they where un prepared

Junior M
01-10-2010, 09:56 PM
I can't believe the are running butt riggin with a rider block, thats old, they should run an MSP dropline carriage with a 100 foot dropline, so they could pre-set the turns, it would up there production by 30%.
english please? ;)

KrayzKajun
01-10-2010, 10:02 PM
damn cant wait for next week!!

Junior M
01-10-2010, 10:04 PM
damn cant wait for next week!!
I wanna know what happened to Melvin! I got a feeling he caught that log right in the face..

I am liking this Madhouse show to.. Although there is a ton of drama, already..

KrayzKajun
01-10-2010, 10:05 PM
i think melvin mite need a neck brace or a body bag!

FYS777
01-10-2010, 10:05 PM
O bummer i was giving blow by blow of 2009 season finales, the new ones for 2010 don't start till 9 PST, :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Junior M
01-10-2010, 10:08 PM
O bummer i was giving blow by blow of 2009 season finales, the new ones for 2010 don't start till 9 PST, :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
I was goin to say, neither Dwayne or Doowap showed up in this episode? ;)

Sadly.. :cry: I like Dwayne, before he turned into a major bitc#er..

Heavyduty1
01-10-2010, 10:10 PM
I can't believe the are running butt riggin with a rider block, thats old, they should run an MSP dropline carriage with a 100 foot dropline, so they could pre-set the turns, it would up there production by 30%.

How's the logging on the West coast going? Slowed to crawl on the East coast.

Junior M
01-10-2010, 10:14 PM
How's the logging on the West coast going? Slowed to crawl on the East coast.
Nothing but pulp wood being cut here..

and it aint even worth a dam price wise. Just enough to pay the bills and keep them guys afloat..

FYS777
01-10-2010, 10:15 PM
How's the logging on the West coast going? Slowed to crawl on the East coast.

its on the crawl like there, been out of it for six years now but my bother is a boss in the last working mill here in the little town of Gilcrest, OR.

NEUSWEDE
01-10-2010, 10:17 PM
damn missed it.

FYS777
01-10-2010, 10:55 PM
Hey here is a site were you can see just about all the logging systems, enjoy.

:weightlifter::weightlifter:http://www.cof.orst.edu/cof/teach/fe371/Cable%20Systems_c.pdf

Scaping 4 Life
01-10-2010, 10:58 PM
Hey here is a site were you can see just about all the logging systems, enjoy.

:weightlifter::weightlifter:

wheres the link?

FYS777
01-10-2010, 11:02 PM
find it, sorry is it up now... http://www.cof.orst.edu/cof/teach/fe371/Cable%20Systems_c.pdf

FYS777
01-11-2010, 01:10 AM
ah, now thats more like it specially the browning crew, that crew i like because they are like animals on the riggin, the yarder they are running a TSY 255, just like the one i ran in alaska.
they swamp guy, cool but i think he drank to much swamp water, loved it when he pulled out the hog leg and scared the guy.

the other guy that ran the log through the cab is a morron.
the browning crew has my two thumbs up.. ya

KrayzKajun
01-11-2010, 01:32 AM
i love the swamp guy! makes me proud to live and be from southern Louisiana!

and i thought i did dumb crap in the swamp as a kid!

Junior M
01-11-2010, 07:48 AM
ah, now thats more like it specially the browning crew, that crew i like because they are like animals on the riggin, the yarder they are running a TSY 255, just like the one i ran in alaska.
they swamp guy, cool but i think he drank to much swamp water, loved it when he pulled out the hog leg and scared the guy.

the other guy that ran the log through the cab is a morron.
the browning crew has my two thumbs up.. ya
What do you think of the Rygaard crew?

Jelinek61
01-11-2010, 04:39 PM
Shows like this that have lots of equipment and hard work are awesome. The only problem is the drama that they feel is oh so necessary. My favorite is American loggers, they just show how its done and focus more on the equipment. Ax men and saw for hire would be better if they had more emphasis on heavy equipment and less on the bickering between the crew members. But all in all its better then a show about some repo guys running around fighting everyone they see.

NEUSWEDE
01-11-2010, 05:32 PM
But all in all its better then a show about some repo guys running around fighting everyone they see.

That show isn't even real! National Geographic had a good repo show about Jam Recovery that I think was out of NYC. It was a great no BS show only aired for 3 or 4 episodes.

They add that drama to attract more viewers and it obviously works well!

meets1
01-11-2010, 07:03 PM
I gotta go with old browning. He has it figured out and will try whatever to gain effeicient logging. Rygaards crew maybe over there head a bit - swamp logger is ok but I would rather focus on the others out in the coast.

integrityman
01-11-2010, 09:37 PM
Liked the first season better. This past episode seemed marred by some working stiffs perpetrating bellyaching for the camera's. Didn't liked the "forced" nature of things. A lot of these guys act like they gotta prove something for the cameras.... just didn't really care for that.

FYS777
01-11-2010, 09:49 PM
Liked the first season better. This past episode seemed marred by some working stiffs perpetrating bellyaching for the camera's. Didn't liked the "forced" nature of things. A lot of these guys act like they gotta prove something for the cameras.... just didn't really care for that.

I agree, but the browning outfit was the most real to the real thing. so far the others where as you said, acting for the camera!!!!!!

Scag48
01-11-2010, 09:56 PM
That DJ Jeremiah guy that works in the rigging for Browning is hilarious, I'd like to buy that guy a beer.

FYS777
01-11-2010, 10:07 PM
That DJ Jeremiah guy that works in the rigging for Browning is hilarious, I'd like to buy that guy a beer.

Me too, i would even wrestle him in the brush for old times sack. I've done that many times.:clapping::laugh: it was fun. takes me to many memories!!!!:weightlifter:

Dirtman2007
01-11-2010, 10:08 PM
That DJ Jeremiah guy that works in the rigging for Browning is hilarious, I'd like to buy that guy a beer.

was that the guy with no front teeth who was jumping all over stuff?

Scag48
01-11-2010, 10:17 PM
was that the guy with no front teeth who was jumping all over stuff?

Yeah that's the guy. It'd be a kick in the ass to work with a guy like that.

FYS777
01-11-2010, 10:31 PM
come work with me :):) ha ha

FYS777
01-11-2010, 10:33 PM
hey check out this, post 97 and 98, thats me

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?p=2818471

FYS777
01-12-2010, 07:01 PM
here is a good site that tells you about the machine that Browning is using. the TSY 255

http://www.vannattabros.com/iron15.html with the carriage that i was talking about also, the MSP drop line carriage

KrayzKajun
01-13-2010, 08:58 AM
was that the guy with no front teeth who was jumping all over stuff?

yep thts him!! bet he would be fun to have on your side in a bar fight!

FYS777
01-23-2010, 04:02 PM
here is something i found interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJzMNPvFu-8&feature=related

mac125
01-23-2010, 05:51 PM
I can't believe the are running butt riggin with a rider block, thats old, they should run an MSP dropline carriage with a 100 foot dropline, so they could pre-set the turns, it would up there production by 30%.

Well, why don't you just haul your loud mouthed opinionated ass on up there and tell them that.

Hell, from the posts you've made on here you're the bull of the woods and ought to be running the whole damn show.

If they're running butt rigging instead of a carriage there's probably a damn good reason...wider road, tagging out, swing yarder, whatever.

FYS777
01-23-2010, 06:42 PM
not giving my opinion any more then anyone else, except for that, and by the way i do know logging systems!
O and with butte riggin you have narrower roads and you have to tag out, that makes extra work with more road changes.= less production.
with a drop line system, less road changes=more actual work time, and with no tag outs, and i could go on.
sorry if you are offended.
Here is a pic, of a yarder i ran in Alaska, the same one the browning crew is running. this was taken 18 years or so ago.

Bleed Green
01-23-2010, 06:48 PM
Well, why don't you just haul your loud mouthed opinionated ass on up there and tell them that.

Hell, from the posts you've made on here you're the bull of the woods and ought to be running the whole damn show.

If they're running butt rigging instead of a carriage there's probably a damn good reason...wider road, tagging out, swing yarder, whatever.

Wow man chill out. Everybody gets a say.

mac125
01-23-2010, 06:59 PM
not giving my opinion any more then anyone else, except for that, and by the way i do know logging systems!
O and with butte riggin you have narrower roads and you have to tag out, that makes extra work with more road changes.= less production.
with a drop line system, less road changes=more actual work time, and with no tag outs, and i could go on.
sorry if you are offended.
Here is a pic, of a yarder i ran in Alaska, the same one the browning crew is running. this was taken 18 years or so ago.

Did you actually run the yarder or were you just chasing and bumping knots? If you actually ran the yarder how long did you do it?

curtisfarmer
01-23-2010, 07:01 PM
mac125, how long did you do it? Some pics would be nice:)

mac125
01-23-2010, 07:07 PM
Wow man chill out. Everybody gets a say.

Sit down and STFU...this is between me and him

mac125
01-23-2010, 07:13 PM
mac125, how long did you do it? Some pics would be nice:)

Well, let's just see. I'm sixty three now, and I started logging when I was seventeen. That long enough for you? If it's not, I have two older brothers who are still active in this business...maybe that will satisfy your curiosity. Mostly my brothers and I have been fallers and we're not too keen on loud mouthed rookies who like to show us their out-of-focus hero pictures and claim to know everything.

I have a few pictures. If I can figure out how to post them I'll do it. They're in focus.

FYS777
01-23-2010, 07:16 PM
Did you actually run the yarder or were you just chasing and bumping knots? If you actually ran the yarder how long did you do it?

I ran yarders for 12 years, 6 and a half years in southern OR, and 5 and a half in Alaska,1 and a half years working on the ground of that first 6.
ran mostly delmibers in central OR for 13 years,
now i have been running my own landscape maintenance, this will be the 6th year.
here is another pic, of me riggin a tree. i had to take pic's of pics so they aren't very clear.

curtisfarmer
01-23-2010, 07:17 PM
Easy there hot head, nice way to introduce yourself by being a know it all and telling people to whatever and sit down.

We all want to hear your story and see your pics, so don't be an ass when someone wants to know more.

FYS777
01-23-2010, 07:21 PM
her are some more, this one is in Alaska, i'm standing on the 046 slackline yarder, and in the lower left is a thunder bird 90 foot tower also.

FYS777
01-23-2010, 07:25 PM
here is another one looking at my chaser at the time unset the turn. this is looking out of a washington 188 swing yarder , by the way. and the camp i work in had 7 sides going they had two 009 madills, one 046 madill, one thunderbird 90 foot tower, one 737 skagit tower, one 188 wash, swing. and one tsy 255 swing, o and a shovel side. this was all located in Hobart Bay Alaska. there you have it, a lot off my history

FYS777
01-23-2010, 07:45 PM
Sit down and STFU...this is between me and him

well by your speach, you sound like a logger, people would say loggers are rude crud and socially unexceptable.. and i didn't claim to know every thing. :)

mac125
01-23-2010, 08:34 PM
[QUOTE=curtisfarmer;3377390]Easy there hot head, nice way to introduce yourself by being a know it all and telling people to whatever and sit down.

We all want to hear your story and see your pics, so don't be an ass when someone wants to know more.QUOTE]

You can sit down and STFU, too.

I called FYS777 out because I thought he was just another rookie with more half baked opinions than actual experience. AxMen seems to have brought a lot of those kind of people out of the woodwork.

Turns out I was wrong. It looks, not so much from the pictures but more from the language he uses and the way he uses it, that he might know what he's talking about. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Too bad he's had to go cutting lawns for a living but a guy does what he has to I guess.

But...I call things the way I see them. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I don't apologize for my actions or my language. If you don't like my posts then don't read them. Your choice entirely.

Hell, I just came here to try to figure out what kind of lawnmower to buy.

FYS777
01-23-2010, 08:44 PM
hey mac125. no problem calling me out on it , but you didn't give me the benefit of the dopt right off the bat, but thats ok, my familys has been in the timber and lumber industry for three genarations. my grand pa that i didn't get to meet horse logged in Ashland OR for a short time, then a shot gun blew up and crippled his arm, my dad said the gun is some times desplayed in museum in jacksonville there, after that they moved to central Calif.

FYS777
01-24-2010, 12:49 AM
hey mac i just remembered something funny. but you probably don't know what it means, but some one should give you the loggers smallpox.:):)

Junior M
01-24-2010, 01:25 AM
[QUOTE=curtisfarmer;3377390]Easy there hot head, nice way to introduce yourself by being a know it all and telling people to whatever and sit down.

We all want to hear your story and see your pics, so don't be an ass when someone wants to know more.QUOTE]

You can sit down and STFU, too.

I called FYS777 out because I thought he was just another rookie with more half baked opinions than actual experience. AxMen seems to have brought a lot of those kind of people out of the woodwork.

Turns out I was wrong. It looks, not so much from the pictures but more from the language he uses and the way he uses it, that he might know what he's talking about. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Too bad he's had to go cutting lawns for a living but a guy does what he has to I guess.

But...I call things the way I see them. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I don't apologize for my actions or my language. If you don't like my posts then don't read them. Your choice entirely.

Hell, I just came here to try to figure out what kind of lawnmower to buy.
I like this guy!

mac125
01-24-2010, 07:47 AM
hey mac i just remembered something funny. but you probably don't know what it means, but some one should give you the loggers smallpox.:):)

LOLOLOL....They'd certainly be welcome to try. I already have some though...from years ago. I gave out a little too, but that was before I got older and mellowed out. That was probably before your time but they used to have signs outside the bars..."No Corks".

A little advice for those who understand it...Don't put your tail hold too high on the stump.

Caterkillar
01-24-2010, 09:27 AM
JM Browning has it going on. It looks like they are alot bigger company than the show lets on. Seems like the other guys are mom-n-pop. I bet they have more than just the one crew that is on tv. Looks like they have their own trucking and construction divisions as well.

Junior M
01-24-2010, 10:17 AM
JM Browning has it going on. It looks like they are alot bigger company than the show lets on. Seems like the other guys are mom-n-pop. I bet they have more than just the one crew that is on tv. Looks like they have their own trucking and construction divisions as well.
Browning was actually hauling logs for multiple of the companies on the show during one season..

FYS777
01-24-2010, 10:19 AM
LOLOLOL....They'd certainly be welcome to try. I already have some though...from years ago. I gave out a little too, but that was before I got older and mellowed out. That was probably before your time but they used to have signs outside the bars..."No Corks".

A little advice for those who understand it...Don't put your tail hold too high on the stump.

See, only some of the old timers would know sayings like that. seen those signs to. i have also mellowed and changed my ways,:weightlifter:

curtisfarmer
01-24-2010, 10:30 AM
Here is a question, why no chipper? I know they are only hualing logs out and the slash stays in the woods, but there has to be some amount of biomass worth chipping up and to the power plant.

Up here in NH, every landing (almost, VERY few cable skidder and chainsaw gutys around) has a chipper. It is just part of the effecincy equation.

Nice yarder Browning is bringing in. He is HUGE....no one has one of those beasts just sitting in the yard covered with pine needles waiting for the chnace jobs you need it.

Rygards stuff looks beat these days.

FYS777
01-24-2010, 10:44 AM
[QUOTE=curtisfarmer;3378193]Here is a question, why no chipper? I know they are only hualing logs out and the slash stays in the woods, but there has to be some amount of biomass worth chipping up and to the power plant.

Up here in NH, every landing (almost, VERY few cable skidder and chainsaw gutys around) has a chipper. It is just part of the effecincy equation.

Here is how i have seen it when i was logging, now days when the have delimbers on the landing they limb the trees out all the way,down to around two inches, all they have is limbs left.the haul all stems on log trucks, because almost all the logging roads were made for log trucks, the chip trucks can't make the corners, and there is no market and no money in it for chips.

curtisfarmer
01-24-2010, 10:55 AM
I guess it must be the market, I do know renewable tax credits have tranformed the chip market in NH. Every scrap goes thru the chipper. $32-36 ton green chips. 10 years ago when diesel was $1 gallon chips were blown on the ground and it was service you paid for. Now every landing has a huge chipper to recover the biomass. In Scandanavia they have machines that go thru the woods and bale "biologs" made up of slash and they = 23 gallons of oil per log. Pretty progressive uses of forestry products I think.

FYS777
01-24-2010, 11:08 AM
here were i am there is no biomass plants close, well back about 15 or 16 years ago we did some hog fuel chipping and some flail chipping for clean chips and the market fell out and never come back, we were hauling that stuff about a hundred and fifty miles to dump. who knows maybe it will come back, being that logging is starting to pick up around here again.
must have to have pretty flat ground to make bio-logs bails in the brush?

curtisfarmer
01-24-2010, 08:20 PM
OK, I am watching AXmen right now (8pm EST) and the turns they are pulling are full of JUNK. The scene where the Rygard guy gets whacked by branches) Tree tops, scraggly timber, tiny stuff and the like. I know the timber out there is HUGE, but without a chiper like you all say, why bother even hauling that stuff to the landing. Here in NH it would surley be harvested...but for firewood and chips only. BTW, no one here does logging JUST for chips, it is just part of the overall effeciency equation and how to effectively manage our forest products. I see alot of small timber on this show, look at my previous thread "big timebr in NH", we cut logs much bigger than what this show shows regugularly. I know your average size timber is WAY bigger, I guess they are logging new regrowth and don't have much HUGE stuff to showcase. No skylines out here, all mechanized skidder/ harvester opertaions only.

FYS777
01-24-2010, 08:26 PM
OK, I am watching AXmen right now (8pm EST) and the turns they are pulling are full of JUNK. The scene where the Rygard guy gets whacked by branches) Tree tops, scraggly timber, tiny stuff and the like. I know the timber out there is HUGE, but without a chiper like you all say, why bother even hauling that stuff to the landing. Here in NH it would surley be harvested...but for firewood and chips only. BTW, no one here does logging JUST for chips, it is just part of the overall effeciency equation and how to effectively manage our forest products. I see alot of small timber on this show, look at my previous thread "big timebr in NH", we cut logs much bigger than what this show shows regugularly. I know your average size timber is WAY bigger, I guess they are logging new regrowth and don't have much HUGE stuff to showcase. No skylines out here, all mechanized skidder/ harvester opertaions only.

my ?? do they log forest service land or private land, if its forest service land you cant cut anything bigger then 21 inches

curtisfarmer
01-24-2010, 10:12 PM
Not sure on State contract minimium, but 8" tip diamter (white pine) @ 16' is about the minimium for logs sales here. Just watched the new 9PM EST show, certainly some big stuff:weightlifter: But still, some tiny stuff and tree tops:confused: I wonder if you guys out there have slash laws like us. Even if you cahinsaw/cable skidder log, slash has to be several' or lower, no major tree tops and excessive debris left. I want to know where all that junk and teeny stuff is going once to landing. I may start a picture thread ( to complimnet the on going one I have going of logging at my property)of local logging up here this winter. Logging up here is WAY down this year, not many site around yet we have huge timber supply).

Looking at the yarders going down, looks like having some serious skidders on site could help. Yes, the hills look steep, but they do some serious mountain logging around here up hills ( which are usually frozen) with skidders only.:usflag:

FYS777
01-24-2010, 10:20 PM
when i worked in logging last, 6 1/2 years ago. we cut everything down to 4 1/2 inches, it was all lodge pole and pondo pines. the mill could cut boards out of that size.

FYS777
01-24-2010, 10:33 PM
i missed last weeks show, at 8 here, i'll be able to watch last weeks and the new one for this week and get caught up on the show
sorry to u guys on here for all the info, but i lived this life and loved it, !!!

Bleed Green
01-24-2010, 11:18 PM
i missed last weeks show, at 8 here, i'll be able to watch last weeks and the new one for this week and get caught up on the show
sorry to u guys on here for all the info, but i lived this life and loved it, !!!

Hey don't mind it the insight is interesting from someone who as actually been there.

meets1
01-25-2010, 08:03 PM
Watching these guys - melvin is hard on equipment I think. Heck he's abig guy to crawl under that thing to grease fittings so let it go although i liked his jump start techince though.

Rygaards and Browning are always neck in neck with loads - is browning's sit tougher or what? Those little guys have to keeping up and I would only think are making more money with less expensive equipment than old browning but we'll see what next show brings.