View Full Version : Which one?
05-28-2002, 05:05 PM
Over the last week we have been looking at zero turn mowers to cut down on the amount of time I (the lady of the house) spend mowing our 21/2-3 acres of lawn.
We have narrowed it down to 2 z's to date.....One being the Gravely PM260z 25hp kawa engine and the other being the 2001 model Scag turf tiger 25hp Kohler, both with 60" decks.
We like the Gravely because it is a little more user friendly and has the Kwacka engine......
We also like the Scag cos it seems even tougher than the Gravely but has a downside in the fact that it has a Kohler engine.
The Scag dealer also has Exmarks, but didn't really rate them much over the Scag........wierd....
Both mowers cost around the $7500 price.
Any advice on which to choose would be appreciated
05-28-2002, 11:17 PM
DEFINITELY go with the Scag, the Gravely is not nearly the machine that a Scag is. Now for the good news. I just pulled out by 2002 Scag catalog and it shows that the 61" Turf Tiger has an available 23hp or 25hp liquid cooled Kawi. I personally have the Tiger Cub with 23hp air cooled Kawi and 52" deck. The thing is built like a tank and cuts very well at high ground speed in tall wet grass.
I don't think you will be disappointed with a Scag purchase.
P.S. Where are you from in Ohio?? I am originally from Ohio but am now a transplanted Floridian and never going back to the cold and snow!!! :D
05-29-2002, 02:40 AM
NOOOOO NOOO NOOO get the Kaw 27 hp liquid cooled Exmark
Your dealer doesnt make as much off the Exmark name as he does with Scag and Gravely. I'm talking repair here.
05-29-2002, 02:43 AM
If you are cutting 21 ac at a time. Make sure to get the Liquid Cool model. It will hold up better during longer runs.
05-29-2002, 04:13 AM
Though I don't own any of those mowers.
From what I've seen on Lawnsite, go with Exmark.
The Equipment superstore in Wilmington sells eleven brands of mowers. They couldn't keep Exmarks in stock. At the end of the season the Scags were still in the crates, not even assembled.
Something else they sold a lot of, was the Kubota diesel ZTR.
I read your post to say 3 acres not 21. If so the Kubota would be ideal. It'd last you forever in those conditions.
05-29-2002, 07:58 AM
As someone pointed out we have two and a half to three acres not 21 acres....lol :D
The reason that the scag 2001 model is up for option and not the 2002 is the pricing difference........The 2001 model is priced at $7500 but the 2002 is a thousand plus dollars more:eek:
We cant even justify spending the $7500 on 3 acres never mind even more!! Our only claim to wanting one is that I will spend less time mowing and that this time round we want quality.....this coming from people that bought a Quality Farm and Fleet lawn tractor 2 years ago that is now falling apart and takes forever to cut the grass it does cut.....It cuts the grass when it is in a good mood, It just whips it around a little when it is in a BAD ONE :)
With our acreage we would have gone for the 52" deck, but the offers on the 60" decks bring the prices down to near the 52" ones anyways....This being the Gravely and the Scags...
I am trying to find prices for the Exmarks, though haven't actually found a good source yet without actually phoning the dealer and asking him to go through his entire price list!
The hustler....Uuuummmm......Cant seem to find a dealer for hustler in our vicinity and the ones that are quite a distance away are only selling the commercial line centered around golf specialists.
We did look at the Kubota but realised we would be paying for the bells and whistles on it that we were not going to use........The only thing that will be put on this peice of purely grass cutting equipment will be a small yard trailer......The Kubota is maybe too much of a tractor to spend it's entire life cutting grass and pulling a small lightweight trailer....I am sure it would get insulted and run away...lol.
Thanks for tha advise so far :)
05-29-2002, 04:19 PM
Ok, my fault 2.5 ac is a lot smaller than the 21 2/3 ac i was thining of. As a home owner you truly dont need a Scag or Exmark. Look at a Bobcat dealer. A 52" 19hp Kaw should run you just under 6000.00. They are a fine mower for what you plan on doing. We use are mowers more in one day then you will in one month. Since you dont run your mower 7 to 10 hours a day. I see no real reason for you to pay the extra couple of thousand.
Bobcat even offers a B/S engine for around 4700.
Wait til winter and get them even cheaper.
Well i wish you the best of luck and I'm sure you will be happy with any mower you take home.
Roberts Turf Care
05-29-2002, 11:20 PM
I beg your pardon but there is nothing wrong with with a Kohler. My dad has a 12 hp Kohler in his JD lawn and garden tractor, it is a 1979, or 1980 model. Only engine work has been a spark plug. And believe me when I lived at home, and used it, it got WELL used. Runs good today.
If I were to guess I would say it has 3000 or more hours. With no hour meter it would be hard to say, but just a guess, knowing how much mowing it does on his 100 acre place. My dad does his service regular so that makes a dif.
I have a Kohler on my Walker, had one on a Toro WB I sold, and my first Walker had one as well. The Kawasaki is good as well.
05-30-2002, 12:55 AM
Hustler. I have a 60" Super Z and the cut and speed is awsome. Here is a link that has the Ohio dealers listed, not sure how updated it is so you may need to call if nothing is local. I paid $7900 for mine, I have heard some guys have paid a little less. Compairing the Hustler to Scag it would be Hustler all the way. Would probably be the last mower you buy.
Here is the Ohio listing: http://www.hustlerturfequipment.com/
05-30-2002, 02:49 AM
I live near toledo so if you are near me send me a e-mail and I will show you my super z and three styles of turf tigers (different motors). I will guarantee you that the hustler is whole lot better then the scag in cut quality and it runs circles around it speed wise.:blob3: :blob3: :blob3:
05-31-2002, 12:31 AM
Did someone down grade Kohler.
05-31-2002, 01:26 AM
I like the Scag despite the comments on this site (Exmark and Hustler lovers). And no you don't need the commercial equipment to do your lawn, but your time commitment will be a fraction of what it used to be. I have a 61" Turf Tiger 22 kawi liquid cooled , 3 years old, to mow an 1.5 acre-this machine will run forever for what I use it for-50 hours a year. LOL. Mow time went from 3-4 hours on a simplicity tractor to 45 minutes including trimming. My neighbors have to hate it when they fire up the brand new craftsmen tractor and cut for hours. For the 2.5 acres, the fastest machine may not be the most important depending on your lawn topography. Cuts great with high lift blades in spring with great stripes, and gator magnums in late summer and fall.
Have you ever looked at consignment equipment? Maybe at a discount if you can find a decent used machine from a LCO going out of business?
Godd luck with your decision.
06-11-2002, 04:03 PM
So what did you buy? Why?
06-11-2002, 06:09 PM
ive had bad experience with scag never will own another dixie chopper is my personal favorite because of filtration a freinds turf tiger is a few years old 400 hrs and falling apart,
06-11-2002, 07:26 PM
The hustler....Uuuummmm......Cant seem to find a dealer for hustler in our vicinity and the ones that are quite a distance away are only selling the commercial line centered around golf specialists.[/B]
Where in Ohio are you ???
We have a lot of new dealers in Ohio, and I am sure there is one that can serve your needs.
We build no mower centered around golf specialist, we have plenty of mowers that can be used on a golf course though.
If you are reffereing to Baker Vehicle Systems as being the dealer that caters to golf courses, you would be surprised, they sell to a lot of commercial customers and home owners also.
Let me know, I would like to help you out.
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