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rsp1961
01-26-2010, 10:36 PM
A guy is selling a scag sabre tooth with approx 3000 hrs, he says its either 04 or 05. He has bill of sale, it looks like its in good shape but just needs a cleaning. He's asking 3500 obo. Sounds like a deal if all is as he says in good shape? any insight? He's 3 hrs away and he says the mowers are at his farm, and can give me exact hours when he goes back to farm. here's his ad:

72" Commercial Model Scag Sabre Tooth Tiger
Used but in good shape
31HP 3cyl Gas Daihatsu Engine
Everything works well
Suspension Seat
Good Tires
Sharp Blades
New Belts
Always maintained on time
Runs Smooth and Starts everytime

This machine will last forever
Very Dirty in picture - looks much better in person

Mows at 10.5 MPH !!!

Any valuable insight? Thank you

gtmorgan89
01-26-2010, 10:38 PM
I just saw that add as well. Thats a lot of hours if you ask me. It would be a great deal if he met you halfway, and you got it for $2900.

rsp1961
01-26-2010, 10:40 PM
Ad says "gas" engine, but isn't that a diesel engine?

razor1
01-26-2010, 10:51 PM
You may want to do a little research on that engine because no one uses Daihatsu any more, and I thought I heard there were some problems.

rsp1961
01-26-2010, 10:53 PM
Scag still does according to their site. It's supposed to be a really BA engine. The new version of this mower is very nice.

gtmorgan89
01-26-2010, 11:01 PM
You may want to do a little research on that engine because no one uses Daihatsu any more, and I thought I heard there were some problems.

Toro also uses Diahatsu, as well as Kubota in for their diesel engines.

gtmorgan89
01-26-2010, 11:02 PM
You may want to do a little research on that engine because no one uses Daihatsu any more, and I thought I heard there were some problems.

Toro also uses Diahatsu, as well as Kubota for their diesel engines.

johnnybravo8802
01-26-2010, 11:03 PM
B@S Daihatsu made a gas and diesel version. The engines are said to be very good engines. I just bought a STT with a 72" and a 31 Daihatsu turbo diesel for $9900-it only had 393 hours and looked almost new. It also had a new battery installed. That seems like a good price for a lot of mower-it's a lot of hours but even if you had to rebuild the engine down the road, it's still a good price. However, everyone is negotiable-take him $2900 and he may take it.

johnnybravo8802
01-26-2010, 11:04 PM
Toro also uses Diahatsu, as well as Kubota for their diesel engines.
Is that a Power Wagon in your picture?

H.A.Landscaping
01-26-2010, 11:04 PM
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but unless you are going to just be mowing a lot in a straight line, as in not many turns, you don't want one of these mowers. I believe the hydro pumps are quite bigger and take a lot of the power from the blades. Just an fyi, but I don't know what you're gonna be using it to mow

rsp1961
01-27-2010, 09:08 AM
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but unless you are going to just be mowing a lot in a straight line, as in not many turns, you don't want one of these mowers. I believe the hydro pumps are quite bigger and take a lot of the power from the blades. Just an fyi, but I don't know what you're gonna be using it to mow

I do several large private ball parks which is why I was interested in this mower. Currently run one 61" Dane SS and one JD 48" WB so this one would be very helpful in increasing productivity as long as it works.

Also, owner confirmed it is a gas engine which makes me a little more concerned with hours. If it had been diesel I wouldn't worry about it so much, but as someone said, the engine can be replaced.

razor1
01-27-2010, 09:29 AM
Scag still does according to their site. It's supposed to be a really BA engine. The new version of this mower is very nice.

Not that it matters and I believe you guys about the quality of the Diahutsu engines, but I just pulled this off of the Scag site and I didn't see Diahutsu mentioned.

STT52V-27CH 52" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 27hp Kohler air-cooled engine
STT61V-25KBD-SS 61" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 25hp Kubota liquid-cooled diesel engine
STT61V-27CH 61" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 27hp Kohler air-cooled engine
STT61V-27KA 61" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 27hp Kawasaki liquid-cooled engine
STT61V-28CAT-SS 61" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 28hp CAT liquid-cooled diesel engine
STT61V-29KA-DFI-SS 61" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 29hp Kawasaki liquid-cooled engine, fuel-injected
STT61V-31EFI-SS 61" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 31hp Kohler Aegis liquid-cooled engine, fuel-injected
STT61V-35BVAC-SS 61" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 35hp Briggs-Vanguard air-cooled engine
STT72V-28CAT-SS 72" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 28hp CAT liquid-cooled diesel engine
STT72A-29KA-DFI-SS 72" Advantage Cutter Deck, 29hp Kawasaki liquid-cooled engine, fuel-injected
STT72A-35BVAC-SS 72" Advantage Cutter Deck, 35hp Briggs-Vanguard air-cooled engine
STWC48V-25CV 48" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 25hp Kohler air-cooled engine
STWC48V-26KA-LC 48" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 26hp Kawasaki liquid-cooled engine
STWC52V-25KA 52" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 25hp Kawasaki air-cooled engine
STWC52V-26KA-LC 52" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 26hp Kawasaki liquid-cooled engine
STWC61V-26KA-LC 61" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 26hp Kawasaki liquid-cooled engine
STWC61V-27CV 61" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 27hp Kohler air-cooled engine
STC48V-19KAI 48" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 19hp Kawasaki KAI air-cooled engine
STC48V-23CV 48" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 23hp Kohler air-cooled engine
STC48V-26BS 48" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 26hp Briggs & Stratton ELS air-cooled engine
STC52V-25CV 52" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 25hp Kohler air-cooled engine
STC61V-25CV 61" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 25hp Kohler air-cooled engine

jtkplc
01-27-2010, 12:39 PM
Not that it matters and I believe you guys about the quality of the Diahutsu engines, but I just pulled this off of the Scag site and I didn't see Diahutsu mentioned.

STT52V-27CH 52" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 27hp Kohler air-cooled engine
STT61V-25KBD-SS 61" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 25hp Kubota liquid-cooled diesel engine
STT61V-27CH 61" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 27hp Kohler air-cooled engine
STT61V-27KA 61" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 27hp Kawasaki liquid-cooled engine
STT61V-28CAT-SS 61" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 28hp CAT liquid-cooled diesel engine
STT61V-29KA-DFI-SS 61" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 29hp Kawasaki liquid-cooled engine, fuel-injected
STT61V-31EFI-SS 61" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 31hp Kohler Aegis liquid-cooled engine, fuel-injected
STT61V-35BVAC-SS 61" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 35hp Briggs-Vanguard air-cooled engine
STT72V-28CAT-SS 72" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 28hp CAT liquid-cooled diesel engine
STT72A-29KA-DFI-SS 72" Advantage Cutter Deck, 29hp Kawasaki liquid-cooled engine, fuel-injected
STT72A-35BVAC-SS 72" Advantage Cutter Deck, 35hp Briggs-Vanguard air-cooled engine
STWC48V-25CV 48" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 25hp Kohler air-cooled engine
STWC48V-26KA-LC 48" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 26hp Kawasaki liquid-cooled engine
STWC52V-25KA 52" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 25hp Kawasaki air-cooled engine
STWC52V-26KA-LC 52" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 26hp Kawasaki liquid-cooled engine
STWC61V-26KA-LC 61" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 26hp Kawasaki liquid-cooled engine
STWC61V-27CV 61" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 27hp Kohler air-cooled engine
STC48V-19KAI 48" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 19hp Kawasaki KAI air-cooled engine
STC48V-23CV 48" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 23hp Kohler air-cooled engine
STC48V-26BS 48" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 26hp Briggs & Stratton ELS air-cooled engine
STC52V-25CV 52" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 25hp Kohler air-cooled engine
STC61V-25CV 61" Velocity Plus™ Cutter Deck, 25hp Kohler air-cooled engine



If I remember correctly, Scag discontinued the model with the 31hp Diahatsu Turbo Diesel a year ago.

rsp1961
01-27-2010, 02:36 PM
OK here is the link that I initially pulled up when I googled this scag the night I found it on CL. I don't see anything on here about year, but it is on the offical Scag website:

http://www.scag.com/sabretoothtiger.html

gtmorgan89
01-27-2010, 02:38 PM
Scag discontinued the Sabre Tooth, and Just started putting the 72" deck on the Turf Tiger. They also replaced the Diahatsu, with a CAT diesel.

johnnybravo8802
01-27-2010, 03:41 PM
Scag discontinued the Sabre Tooth, and Just started putting the 72" deck on the Turf Tiger. They also replaced the Diahatsu, with a CAT diesel.
Yea, you can only get a 28HP CAT in a TT now. They run about $16,000 new and if they break down, you have to take it to a CAT dealer. Hey, gtmorgan, is that a Power Wagon in your picture?

djagusch
01-27-2010, 03:41 PM
Here is how I look at it. Scag's Sabretooth is a beast of a mower. It's very close to a Turf Tiger and parts are easy to get for them. The mower will outlast it's engine and hydro's if somewhat taken care of.

For the engine. It's a great engine but with 3000 hrs it will be tired and I don't know about how easy parts are to get. The good thing is that you will be able to drop a 35HP Vanguard in there for 2K or less.

For the hydro's it will cost another 2K if they go out but they should be fine if they were taken care of.

So the 3K mower might be a 7K mower in the worse case. But then it will last a long time after that.

rsp1961
01-27-2010, 05:42 PM
Here is how I look at it. Scag's Sabretooth is a beast of a mower. It's very close to a Turf Tiger and parts are easy to get for them. The mower will outlast it's engine and hydro's if somewhat taken care of.

For the engine. It's a great engine but with 3000 hrs it will be tired and I don't know about how easy parts are to get. The good thing is that you will be able to drop a 35HP Vanguard in there for 2K or less.

For the hydro's it will cost another 2K if they go out but they should be fine if they were taken care of.

So the 3K mower might be a 7K mower in the worse case. But then it will last a long time after that.

I like the way you think. Those are the facts I have not dealt with on Scag since I do not run one now. I am guessing those prices you quoted are materials only and not for total installation? Thanks for the info guys.