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mowerbrad
01-29-2010, 09:37 PM
Okay guys, I need some opinions on this truck. I just found it tonight from a dealership about 20 minutes away. The price seems a little too high for it though, I'd have to see if they would take less.

Here's the link... http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/ctd/1575009351.html

TXNSLighting
01-29-2010, 09:42 PM
261,000 miles??!!! Yeh that truck is WAY to high!

JFGauvreau
01-29-2010, 09:54 PM
I personally wouldn't pay 19k for a 261k 2004. Even if its diesel and they last long.. . nah

mowerbrad
01-29-2010, 10:02 PM
I have really no problem with the miles since it has another 100k+ before any major repairs, so long it has been well taken care of by its previous owner. The truck has everything I want and then some, so if I make an offer it'd be like $14000.

silverado212
01-29-2010, 10:57 PM
They don't want much do they. lol I would have to see maintenance records on it. Alot of other stuff can go wrong. It could nickle and dime you to death.

TXNSLighting
01-29-2010, 11:01 PM
Yeh maybe $12k...Theres so much that can go wrong if not taken care of. now a 7.3 or a cummins? Id take it no prob. But the Duramax is a complicated engine..

mowerbrad
01-29-2010, 11:09 PM
Well, I'm going to look at a 97 dodge cummins 3500 tomorrow. My only problem with that is it is a year older than my current truck and has 300k on it. I've been pretty set on a duramax since I decided to start looking for a "new to me" truck. I've driven chevy and ford diesels, but not yet a cummins. So far I like the duramax the best. I'm mainly looking for something that will get good highway mpg's and last a while. This duramax is the 2nd generation, so it has relatively few problems. I'll be spending enough money on the new truck that I want to make sure I get something that is EXACTLY what I want and will last a while. I'm so picky about the truck I want, its hard for me to find one that meets my criteria.

Evan528
01-29-2010, 11:15 PM
The truck is priced at least $10,000 too high. The engine might have a little bit of life left in it but everything else on the truck is a ticking time bomb! For $19,000 you can find an 04 or 05 with 60-80,000 miles.

meador56
01-29-2010, 11:17 PM
Bet those guys didn't put 10k in that truck. If you don't believe it put a tag on it and take to the next town and see what they offer. Have a buddy in sales that puts 90-100k on new truck every 14-18 mos. Just traded '08 Ram 3500 srw black 4X4 loaded got about 23k for it. It was black and chrome nice truck. 20k well shopped =nice truck.

TXNSLighting
01-29-2010, 11:32 PM
I was about to say, if youre willing to spend that much you can get a much lower mileage truck for that price..

mowerbrad
01-29-2010, 11:32 PM
These duramax's are hard to come by, and around here they seem to be on the higher side for price. My mechanics really like the duramax engines, before I buy any truck I will be having them go through the whole truck and make sure it is in good shape. The last duramax I found near me was an '02 chevy ext. cab, 4x4, several cosmetic issues, service engine light on, and tranny leak, 220k....It was going for $9500 at the dealer.

I do have a guy looking at some of the online auctions for me. He finds me about one or two trucks each week. Usually they are from georgia, so they have a cleaner underbody than trucks from up here have.

TXNSLighting
01-29-2010, 11:35 PM
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=273958048&dealer_id=587893&car_year=2006&rdm=1264826046950&lastStartYear=1981&model=RAM25002WD&num_records=25&systime=&make2=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&start_year=2003&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=50&marketZipError=false&search_lang=en&sownerid=73224&showZipError=y&make=DODGE&keywords_display=&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&seller_type=b&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=76086&advanced=&end_year=2011&doors=&transmission=&max_price=19000&cardist=37&standard=false

Here, drive down and come get this!! It Has years of life left!!

TXNSLighting
01-29-2010, 11:37 PM
Or this one!! http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=273709128&dealer_id=1932067&car_year=2003&rdm=1264826046950&lastStartYear=1981&model=RAM25002WD&num_records=25&systime=&make2=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&start_year=2003&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=50&marketZipError=false&search_lang=en&sownerid=73224&showZipError=y&make=DODGE&keywords_display=&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&seller_type=b&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=76086&advanced=&end_year=2011&doors=&transmission=&max_price=19000&cardist=37&standard=false

mowerbrad
01-30-2010, 12:19 AM
The first one isn't diesel, so thats out. The second one would work, but its a long box and I want a short box....yes I know the 8' box will be more useful but I am dead set on the short box. I'm also not a huge fan of dodge, not to say that I won't consider it at all. I want to do it right this time and make sure I am going to be happy with my new truck for the next 8-10 years.

TXNSLighting
01-30-2010, 12:39 AM
whoops! forget the first one then, i misread. I was lookin for long beds, there were more short beds..

TXNSLighting
01-30-2010, 12:40 AM
The first one isn't diesel, so thats out. The second one would work, but its a long box and I want a short box....yes I know the 8' box will be more useful but I am dead set on the short box. I'm also not a huge fan of dodge, not to say that I won't consider it at all. I want to do it right this time and make sure I am going to be happy with my new truck for the next 8-10 years.

Then you dont need to be gettin that dmax..

mowerbrad
01-30-2010, 01:03 AM
I only put maybe 12000 miles a year on a truck. So its not like I'm driving constantly, I'm on the highway 2-3 days a week and the rest is around town. My first choice will be a duramax. I'm not a fan of the powerstrokes unless its a 7.3. I'm fine with cummins but I don't like the dodge transmissions. I like the dmax/allison combo on the GM's. The dmax trucks have come with high recomendations from the people I talk to. So a dmax truck will always be my first choice.

TXNSLighting
01-30-2010, 12:04 PM
I only put maybe 12000 miles a year on a truck. So its not like I'm driving constantly, I'm on the highway 2-3 days a week and the rest is around town. My first choice will be a duramax. I'm not a fan of the powerstrokes unless its a 7.3. I'm fine with cummins but I don't like the dodge transmissions. I like the dmax/allison combo on the GM's. The dmax trucks have come with high recomendations from the people I talk to. So a dmax truck will always be my first choice.

But are you planning on growing? My first year i put 12-13k on my truck that year. second year 20k, then third i was up to 30k a year. Just gotta think about this....Just keep looking. Youll find the right one, for the right pice.

TXNSLighting
01-30-2010, 12:12 PM
Oh buddy!!! I may have to get this one...http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=273709114&dealer_id=1932067&car_year=2002&rdm=1264871513186&lastStartYear=1981&model=F350&num_records=25&systime=&make2=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&start_year=1999&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=50&marketZipError=false&search_lang=en&sownerid=1393812&showZipError=y&make=FORD&keywords_display=&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&seller_type=b&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=76086&advanced=&end_year=2003&doors=&transmission=&max_price=19000&cardist=37&standard=false

Evan528
01-30-2010, 12:47 PM
While does it seem like every truck for sale out of texas has one of those huge grill guards on the front??

mowerbrad
01-30-2010, 02:47 PM
But are you planning on growing? My first year i put 12-13k on my truck that year. second year 20k, then third i was up to 30k a year. Just gotta think about this....Just keep looking. Youll find the right one, for the right pice.

I'm thinking it will be sticking to 15k or less every year, I really can't for see me traveling any more than that. We may end up taking the truck more places since it will be a crew cab as opposed to my single cab. Now if the dmax I get is able to attain the mpg's some people are getting (20+ mpg's highway), then maybe the truck will be taken even more places. But until I have the truck I won't know for sure.

Oh buddy!!! I may have to get this one...http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=273709114&dealer_id=1932067&car_year=2002&rdm=1264871513186&lastStartYear=1981&model=F350&num_records=25&systime=&make2=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&start_year=1999&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=50&marketZipError=false&search_lang=en&sownerid=1393812&showZipError=y&make=FORD&keywords_display=&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&seller_type=b&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=76086&advanced=&end_year=2003&doors=&transmission=&max_price=19000&cardist=37&standard=false

Normally I'd be looking into that but it is a long box. I'm very picky about what truck I buy, it has to have certain features on it or else I won't buy it.

Here's what I'm looking for...2002 or newer, crew cab, short box, 4x4, push button 4x4 engagment, center console between front seats (5 passenger cab), leather is preferred but not manditory, power everything, and it must have tow/haul mode.

johnnybravo8802
01-30-2010, 06:35 PM
Man, they are out of their mind with that price-just being honest! I would never buy a truck with those kind of miles. If I did, it would have to be at a steal!!!! I looked at a Ford F550 XLT with a flatbed and only 55,000 miles-$18,200. It also has a v-10 which is what everyone is looking at. I really want it but my conscience is telling me not to spend the money. Look at www.jackyjones.com.

TXNSLighting
01-30-2010, 07:09 PM
While does it seem like every truck for sale out of texas has one of those huge grill guards on the front??

Because down here we have cows, deer, and other animals that dart out in front of us. Plus on the ranches thats how you open gates.

mowerbrad
01-30-2010, 08:42 PM
I'm going to go look at the red truck later this week, I probably won't buy it unless I can get them down to under $15000 OTD. But I figured I might as well go take a look and see what I think.

I did find another truck though, it's $15,800. Its exactly like the red one except the Chevy version, with a few extra features and no tow mirrors. This one is down in North Carolina, so I'd probably have it shipped up to me as I can't do that much of a road trip right now. I'd like to get it down to $14,500. It's still high miles 260k but its also the LLY engine, so that makes me feel a little better.

Here is the link... http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=272816693&dealer_id=64901119&ct=p

Scagmower48
01-30-2010, 09:19 PM
I know nothing about diesels. Yes this ENGINE MIGHT have 100k left, but what about the rest of the truck. The truck is the same whether it has the 6.6 or the 6.0. Ever think about the front end, and the tranny? Anything could happen to this truck with over a quarter mill on it, and you think 15k is reasonable? Buy a gas truck with 50-70K for 15K and be better off.

mowerbrad
01-30-2010, 09:26 PM
There is no way I'm getting a gas truck. I'd end up getting 12 mpg on the highway instead of 20mpg on the highway with the dmax.

The tranny will be fine, it's an allison.

Scagmower48
01-30-2010, 09:34 PM
There is no way I'm getting a gas truck. I'd end up getting 12 mpg on the highway instead of 20mpg on the highway with the dmax.

The tranny will be fine, it's an allison.

How long will it take to make up the difference between the diesel and the gas. Do you have to drive alot of miles. With 261k, how much could possibly be left.

Also I don't think you are going to get 20 mpg on the highway. People who say that are prolly lying just to make their trucks seem like wise purchases.

Buy what you want, its your truck, but it seems to me that your going to dump more money into that truck in the future than a lower mile gas truck.

TXNSLighting
01-30-2010, 09:53 PM
How long will it take to make up the difference between the diesel and the gas. Do you have to drive alot of miles. With 261k, how much could possibly be left.

Also I don't think you are going to get 20 mpg on the highway. People who say that are prolly lying just to make their trucks seem like wise purchases.

Buy what you want, its your truck, but it seems to me that your going to dump more money into that truck in the future than a lower mile gas truck.

No its very well known diesels get 20mpg hwy, not towing. but youre correct on everything else.

Scagmower48
01-30-2010, 09:56 PM
No its very well known diesels get 20mpg hwy, not towing. but youre correct on everything else.

Im not doubting a diesel can get 20 mpg, but can a 4 wheel drive, four door get that? Also with 261K it can't get the same mileage as when it was new.

TXNSLighting
01-30-2010, 09:57 PM
Get the truck you want. I just dont want you to buy a truck and then potentially have to dump a buncha money into it. Or, it could go another 100k without problems. Just trying to warn you. You can find trucks with 120k miles for that price if you take your time and look. Especially if youre looking out of state.

TXNSLighting
01-30-2010, 09:58 PM
Im not doubting a diesel can get 20 mpg, but can a 4 wheel drive, four door get that? Also with 261K it can't get the same mileage as when it was new.

yes thats the ones im refering to. theyre very impressive. Diesels get better with age in the fuel economy department.

mowerbrad
01-30-2010, 10:15 PM
I've been searching for about the past month....but I've been thinking about a new truck for a few months. I've searched all of cars.com and autotrader.com for the entire country and there aren't many on there that are exactly what I want. I have one guy searching all the GMAC and other online auctions for me. I've been to or have called all the local dealers without much luck. I've found a few dmax trucks, but most weren't well taken care of so they were going to need plenty of work.

I think just about any used truck I buy I would be taking a chance of it having problems. Its tough for me to buy a truck that I can't go see locally and drive. But you can usually tell how well a truck was maintained by how well it was kept physically. Usually people who care about their vehicles will have a cleaner/sharper looking vehicle.

These nice of trucks don't come by that often which is why I'm very interested.

johnnybravo8802
01-30-2010, 10:46 PM
Try www.maxieprice.com. They have a lot of clean GM trucks.

Evan528
01-31-2010, 12:46 AM
20mpg highway is certainly possible. I have gotten as high as 21mpg (says the overhead computer) during a long trip on the highway. That same Ram cummins of mine only gets 10-12MPG around town.

stroker51
01-31-2010, 03:23 AM
I bought my 01 f250 7.3 4x4 lariat with 99,900 miles in i think april of 08 for 17,000. I have no problem with high mile trucks, but the ones that I have I have put most of the miles on them, and know pretty much everything about them and fix whatever needs fixing when it needs it. If you are thinking you will get 8-10 years out of that truck I'm afraid you might be disappointed. If you are dead set on the duramax route, a friend of mine just bought an 06 with 125k for 16,500, crew cab short bed 4x4. I would keep looking man, even $15,000 for that truck you posted isn't a deal from what I have seen in the used truck market.

mowerbrad
01-31-2010, 11:52 AM
Like I said before, I'm very picky about what truck I buy. I have looked all over craigs list in WI, IL, IN, OH and MI...all with no luck. There were several trucks for $20k+, but I'm not going to spend that much on a truck.

becpropertymaint.
01-31-2010, 02:36 PM
dont let the miles scare you but offer no more than 13k at the very most good luck

JPsDuramax
01-31-2010, 04:49 PM
I may have already mentioned this, but just in case: I bought my 2004 Dmax in Feb. 2008 with 70xxx on the clock for 26,000 OTD. I know you are trying to stay under the 20K mark, but there are many trucks (at least here in GA) that are lower mileage and are a good price. Don't buy just to be buying. I looked at litteraly 100+ trucks before finding the one that I have now. I would just recommend patience. You'll know it when you find the right one.

mowerbrad
01-31-2010, 08:58 PM
Well, I've really been looking into the truck from North Carolina. I called the guy today and talked with him for about 30 minutes, finding out some really good info. The seller owns a diesel performance shop and buys and sells duramax diesels all the time. Basically I found out that this truck was used by a construction company owner to drive from the west side of the state to the east side several times a week, so alot of highway miles (which is good news to me). I did find out that it will need new tires and may need to have the carpet heavily cleaned (by a professional) or even replaced. Other than those two things the truck is ready to go. If I do buy it, it will come with a free performance tune for towing and fuel economy (about a 70hp tune).

So the truck runs great, is pretty clean (except for the carpeting), everything works great. I am going to talk to my mechanics and some duramax specalists tomorrow as well as a professional detailing company in my town. I want to make sure that this truck would be a good fit for me before I become too set on the idea.

I figured I'd have to spend roughly $1000+/- for tires and to get the carpet cleaned or replaced. Otherwise, everything appears to be all set.

P&C Lawn Care
01-31-2010, 09:35 PM
I got a 2004 Duramax with 98,000 miles for $14,000 but it was only two wheel drive. I think that is too high for that mileage (261,000).

mowerbrad
01-31-2010, 09:45 PM
I did forget to mention that I will be trying to get the price down to $14000ish. Its very tough to find a truck that has what I want, has the right engine (LLY) and for the right price. I've found a few, but this one would need the least amount of work and for the best price, so far.

doubleedge
01-31-2010, 09:59 PM
The tranny will be fine, it's an allison.

The brand name doesn't make it impervious to wear. If neither the transmission nor the engine has been rebuilt/replaced in a 260k mile truck, there is a very high risk of something expensive breaking.

mowerbrad
01-31-2010, 10:08 PM
The brand name doesn't make it impervious to wear. If neither the transmission nor the engine has been rebuilt/replaced in a 260k mile truck, there is a very high risk of something expensive breaking.

Thats true, I shouldn't be judging how well the transmission will do just by the name on it.

But from doing the research on this truck I think the tranny will be fine. The truck was driven lots of highway miles on pretty easy terrain, which will have benefited both the engine and tranny for those miles. Allisons have a great reputation for building trannys, so I feel comfortable with it. And the truck did very minimal towing as it was used like a car rather than a truck.

P&C Lawn Care
02-01-2010, 05:44 PM
How do you know this was used more as a car and not towing? Wasn't this at a car dealership? Is that what THEY told you? You know that car salesmen are not known for the truth don't you?

I have about the same identical truck (but a chevy 2 wheel) and granted it is a good truck, I would check the service records on this. Make sure the tranny fluid and filter have been changed out regulary. Also are there signs that this was used for towing or a fifth wheel hitch mounted in the truck? Someone who buys a new Duramax with slideout trailer mirrors probably planned or did pull a trailer with it. That price is way too inflated for this vehicle.

Also,See if this vehicle has had the upgraded fuel injector harness installed, there should be a service record for that, if not make them do it or you will be sitting on the side of the road one day.

mowerbrad
02-01-2010, 06:26 PM
The seller is a private seller who knew the previous owner and his company. The first owner was the owner of the company and this was his work truck. This one also doesn't have the tow mirrors on it or any fifth wheel or gooseneck hitch on it.

I know the whole thing has been gone through, tranny serviced and fuel system cleaned. I know any recalls that have come out for the truck have been fixed.

But this is just one truck that I am considering, I am also looking at an '06 duramax.

pitrack
02-01-2010, 11:59 PM
Price is WAY to high for that many miles. You can find way better deals out there.

Hell I would sell you my 07' 5.9 Cummins 4 door short box for mid $20's. Just ticked over 33k miles.

pitrack
02-02-2010, 12:05 AM
Well, I've really been looking into the truck from North Carolina. I called the guy today and talked with him for about 30 minutes, finding out some really good info. The seller owns a diesel performance shop and buys and sells duramax diesels all the time. Basically I found out that this truck was used by a construction company owner to drive from the west side of the state to the east side several times a week, so alot of highway miles (which is good news to me). I did find out that it will need new tires and may need to have the carpet heavily cleaned (by a professional) or even replaced. Other than those two things the truck is ready to go. If I do buy it, it will come with a free performance tune for towing and fuel economy (about a 70hp tune).



So the guy is throwing in a 70hp tune, has it been installed on the truck? (Even if he says it hasn't, it probably has). No way in hell would I buy a truck with 260k on it that has had a tune on it of 70hp and even think that the tranny will last much longer, I don't care if it's an "Allison" or not. (which are hit and miss anyway) Just sucks because you don't know if these people abused the truck or not, or if they serviced it like they should have. But still 260k on a truck, that's getting up there man.

mowerbrad
02-02-2010, 12:44 PM
Check, the tune would be a 45hp tune not 70hp...don't know where I got 70 from???? But I will probably stay away from the tune.

The way I am looking at this is, any truck I buy will be used and probably with at least 150k on it. I am taking a chance on any truck I buy that the previous owner(s) took care of it and maintained it. Now, the truck with 260k on it, has no leaks (tranny or engine), shifts good, idles good, and if very clean. I've seen plenty of trucks with 350k+ on them, heck, I just saw one with 700k+ on the original engine and tranny with no major repairs.

I could buy a truck with 90k miles but if the owner didn't take good care of it, I could be SOL in no time. Its a tough decision for me.

pitrack
02-02-2010, 01:07 PM
Check, the tune would be a 45hp tune not 70hp...don't know where I got 70 from???? But I will probably stay away from the tune.

The way I am looking at this is, any truck I buy will be used and probably with at least 150k on it. I am taking a chance on any truck I buy that the previous owner(s) took care of it and maintained it. Now, the truck with 260k on it, has no leaks (tranny or engine), shifts good, idles good, and if very clean. I've seen plenty of trucks with 350k+ on them, heck, I just saw one with 700k+ on the original engine and tranny with no major repairs.

I could buy a truck with 90k miles but if the owner didn't take good care of it, I could be SOL in no time. Its a tough decision for me.

Good points, sometimes you have to just give it a whirl and hope for the best.

Good luck with your choice.

LawnmastersMikejr
02-02-2010, 04:32 PM
With that high of miles I would worry about having to replace injectors. Theyre expensive but other than that and maybe front end parts I'd say itd be ok.

AdamChrap
02-02-2010, 06:05 PM
Be patient you will find one. I found a 2006 Ram Mega Cab 4x4 SLT Cummins 90k at a dealer for $22,000. I had to fly to New Orleans from Ohio and drive it back but ti was worth it and I had fun in the process, Bourbon St. was interesting.

mowerbrad
02-03-2010, 09:30 PM
With that high of miles I would worry about having to replace injectors. Theyre expensive but other than that and maybe front end parts I'd say itd be ok.

I did make sure that the engine is an LLY generation, which weren't known for injector problems like the previous LB7 generation. So the injectors shouldn't be a problem. And front end parts (I'm told) are all in great shape.

Be patient you will find one. I found a 2006 Ram Mega Cab 4x4 SLT Cummins 90k at a dealer for $22,000. I had to fly to New Orleans from Ohio and drive it back but ti was worth it and I had fun in the process, Bourbon St. was interesting.

Yea, I've been looking all over the country trying to find one. It is very hard to find one that meets all my criteria. If I weren't so picky I'd have a truck by now. But, I want to make sure that I am going to be happy with the new truck.

CarolinaClipper
02-05-2010, 12:35 PM
Be Patient.... It took me almost 6 mos before I found my 03 Chevy 2500HD Duramax. Had 85,000, LT package and I got it in 2007 for 22,500. The one you are looking at is good and I would jump on it if it was selling for $10-$12,000.

Good Luck.

mowerbrad
02-05-2010, 01:55 PM
I may end up making an offer on the truck for somewhere around $13500-$14000. But I don't want to go for it quite yet, I want to make sure that I don't find anything better soon.

T-Made
02-05-2010, 04:21 PM
Nash Chevrolet- just listed- 2006 Chevrolet 2500 Duramax-4x4 ext. cab -118k miles great shape $18k--check this truck out!

Lakewlc
02-05-2010, 06:33 PM
^just looked it up.. not THAT is a good deal

mowerbrad
02-05-2010, 07:33 PM
Nash Chevrolet- just listed- 2006 Chevrolet 2500 Duramax-4x4 ext. cab -118k miles great shape $18k--check this truck out!

I did look this truck up and while it is a very nice truck, it is not the crew cab that I am wanting. But it does give me an idea of where prices are.

johnnybravo8802
02-05-2010, 09:00 PM
Man, I just can't comprehend buying any truck with the miles you guys are looking at, unless it's dirt cheap. If you have that kind of money, why not put it on a new truck with a full warranty and 0 miles?:confused:People sell trucks with those kinds of miles for a reason-they're worn out and they're buying a new truck. That's my experience after driving American made vehicles for 25 yrs.

Lakewlc
02-06-2010, 10:04 AM
I just bought my 02 dodge 2500 extra cab short box 4x4 with all the goodies(leather heated power seats cd towing mirrors badicly everything) with a fisher v plow with only 70k miles for a little over 16k. Those trucks with high miles don't excite me and they are way over priced
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Lakewlc
02-06-2010, 10:05 AM
Forgot to mention its a cummins
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mowerbrad
02-06-2010, 10:31 AM
I could buy a 2002 chevy that is pretty loaded for $16000 with lower miles, but it wouldn't have the right duramax engine in it. The duramax I want puts me into the 2004.5-2006 range, which obviously means that the price will be a little higher, which is why a high miles truck is what I'm looking at. I have seen plenty of high miles trucks out there that haven't had any major problems and they had over 350k on them.

And the reason I am not putting money down on a new truck is because I don't plan to finance this truck. I have not had to finance anything yet and don't plan to yet either. And if I bought a new truck with the options I want, it would run me near $45,000, and I don't want to be making payments on a truck that expensive. And no, I would not buy a gas truck just to save the upfront cost, it has to be the diesel.

rungreen
02-06-2010, 08:48 PM
I dont think your going to get anywhere near 20mpg. My dad has a 2008 3500 duramax dually and he 10-12 mpg and under 10 when towing. I have 2007 2500 duramax and I get 13-14. My last 6.0 gas wasnt much worse.

mowerbrad
02-06-2010, 09:02 PM
I dont think your going to get anywhere near 20mpg. My dad has a 2008 3500 duramax dually and he 10-12 mpg and under 10 when towing. I have 2007 2500 duramax and I get 13-14. My last 6.0 gas wasnt much worse.

You have to remember that the newer duramax's have more of the emissions "crap" on them. The duramax engine you have and the one your dad has are different generations than the one that I'm looking at. The 2004 truck I'm considering is an LLY generation. The engine that you have is either the LBZ or the LMM generation. And your dad's truck has the LMM generation. So the duramax I'm looking will be one or two generations prior to the ones you are referring to. And yes, that does make a difference that the duramax's are different genereations. Now if I really was willing to, I could get the LB7 (first generation duramax) and have to go through all the injector problems. But I don't want to have those problems which is why I am going for an LLY engine...still gets good fuel economy.

AndyTblc
02-06-2010, 09:05 PM
my neighbor has a 2002 2500HD with a D-Max and he gets 20mpg. My aunt and uncle have a 2006 3500 dually 2wd dmax and they get 21 going down the highway

AndyTblc
02-06-2010, 09:07 PM
brad are you going to sell your truck?

AndyTblc
02-06-2010, 09:15 PM
nevermind, stupid question, I just seen it for sale. I know somebody who is looking for an older 2500, but they need a truck bed, and they wouldn't want that kind

mowerbrad
02-06-2010, 09:17 PM
My truck is going to be sold. I've gotta time the sale right so that by the time a buy a new truck I will have my current truck sold. That way I won't be left with no truck for a while or be stuck with two trucks when I only need one.

Lakewlc
02-06-2010, 09:21 PM
where is it forsale?

AndyTblc
02-06-2010, 09:24 PM
where is it forsale?

it is in the forsale section in the forums here, it's the section above the photo albums

mowerbrad
02-06-2010, 09:31 PM
It is for sale on here, I think it's listed on here for $5500...its in the forsale section.

It's is also forsale on craigs list and I have a potential buyer who offered $6000. Nothing is finalized yet.

Lakewlc
02-06-2010, 09:33 PM
yeah lol i dont see it

AndyTblc
02-06-2010, 09:38 PM
http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=301730&highlight=1998+2500

Lakewlc
02-06-2010, 09:42 PM
thanks .

rstan2010
02-06-2010, 10:22 PM
Heres one
http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/cto/1568819502.html

mowerbrad
02-06-2010, 10:48 PM
Heres one
http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/cto/1568819502.html

If that were a 2004.5 or newer truck, I'd be all over that. But since it is the 2003, it has the LB7 duramax which has the injector problems. I don't really want to have to deal with that.

Like I said, I'm very picky about the truck.

TXNSLighting
02-06-2010, 11:24 PM
Man people on here cant read well apparantly..

AndyTblc
02-06-2010, 11:25 PM
here is one
http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/ctd/1576125837.html

GravelyGuy
02-07-2010, 12:20 AM
You say your only driving 12,000 miles a year towing a 14' trailer from the looks of your sig. Why are you so set on diesel?

There's a lot more to a truck than the engine and 200,000+ is a lot of miles.

CrazyBlonde
02-07-2010, 01:41 AM
While does it seem like every truck for sale out of texas has one of those huge grill guards on the front??

As far as the grill guards being "HUGE" as opposed to being NORMAL sized, Don't cha know???? EVERYTHINGS BIGGER in TEXAS!:hammerhead:

go to: http://www.nadaguides.com/Cars and book it! It's way overpriced! And you should never pay what they are asking for a USED vehicle. They WILL take at LEAST $3,000 to $5,000 or MORE off I guarantee! And as far as NEW trucks go, they can usually drop $5,000 to $9,000. If buying from a dealer and financing, they will hike you up 1% to 3% on the interest rate, so WHAT EVER the rate is, ONLY buy it if they agree to come down at least 2% on the interest. To get your BEST deal on NEW or USED: Tell them you found a truck you like better, but if you can get this one cheap enough you'll buy it. So SHARPEN their pencil!

1)Tell them you HAVE a trade in. Even if you don't!
2)Tell them you will be financing through THEM. (Even if you are paying cash!)
3)Tell them you would like to buy an extended warranty. (Even if you don't want one)
4)Tell them you want GAP Insurance, and Disability/Loss of Income Insurance. (Even tho you don't)
5) If they sell accessories, (toolbox, bedliner, huge grillguards:laugh:, chrome accents, whatever) ask them if they can add them to the vehicle and finance them as well) (But DO NOT get them)
6) If they offer window tint, or rock shield, or other applications tell them you want that. (Even tho you don't.)

Now ask them for their BEST PRICE, one shot, before you leave to go get the "other" truck. They will give you their lowest price! If you act like it's too high and start to leave they may even sharpen the pencil a little more!

Now... You have their Best Price, Because they were going to make up the profit on 1) your trade, 2)the financing, 3)the warranty, 4)the insurances, 5) the accessories, and 6) the tint and rock shield. So they gave you a low price for "the truck"! (It's called making the PROFIT off the "BACK END") Now that you know what they will sell it for, Buy it! BUT...tell them you decided not to get the warranty, insurances, accessories, tint, rock shield, etc, and that you are paying cash OR financing with your own bank, (unless they DROP the interest rate by 2 or 3 %). And as far as your trade goes, you decided NOT to trade, because your friend "just called" and said he wants to buy it afterall! By the way... at this point you should give him a jar of vasaline, so what you just did is less painful for them!:cry:

Diesels can have alot of problems, I've had several. Seems alot of issues with injectors, and water in fuel in the winter, and they are way more expensive to repair! Fuel Filters and Air Filters alone will make ya go belly up! Of course I was using them out on the pipeline, so alot of dust and dirt didn't help, and 3' of snow in the winter tends to gel up the fuel, so what do I know?:confused: I was stuck on wanting ONLY a short box too, LOOKS GREAT!:cool2: But I was sure glad when I traded for the longbed. Put a Fueltank/toolbox in the back and you won't even notice the long bed.:rolleyes:

mowerbrad
02-07-2010, 09:43 AM
You say your only driving 12,000 miles a year towing a 14' trailer from the looks of your sig. Why are you so set on diesel?

There's a lot more to a truck than the engine and 200,000+ is a lot of miles.

To tell you the truth I'm not quite sure why I am so set on a diesel. I have been driving my diesel for the last 4 years and I've gotten very used to it. I've driven a few gas trucks and everytime I drive one, I don't really like it....can't say exactly why but I just don't. And I do more highway driving than city, and I'd rather see higher mpg's on the highway than a lower like what I would get on a gas truck.

And yes I understand that there is more to a truck than just an engine. I have to look at everything and make sure it all works fine. So I do realize that, when I look at a truck I do know enough to look at just about everything on the truck I can to make sure everything is in good shape.

J&R Landscaping
02-07-2010, 07:52 PM
Im not doubting a diesel can get 20 mpg, but can a 4 wheel drive, four door get that? Also with 261K it can't get the same mileage as when it was new.

My 2005 Dodge Ram 3500 quad cab short bed 4x4 gets close to and sometimes over 20 mpgs on the highway depending how fast I drive and whether or not cruise control is on..

If you only plan on driving 12k or so a year, it would seem to make sense for a gas truck unless your pulling heavy weight 7500lbs plus 3-4 days a week. For the price difference between diesel and gas, you'll still be ahead despite to lower mpg.. Just my $0.02

mowerbrad
02-07-2010, 11:31 PM
Here's the thing....

Do I really NEED a diesel? NO

Do I WANT a diesel again? YES

MCarter
02-08-2010, 12:51 AM
Something you may consider is trying to locate a rebuilder (orange title here). I bought my 06 Chevy 2500 Duramax, LBZ, crew cab, 4x4, short bed for 18,500 about a year ago. It had 48,000 miles. I would have never considered buying a rebuilder if it were not dedicated as a work truck due to resale but it's a tow vehicle so works perfect for me. I will say to look them over closely. In my case I knew the person that bought it from the auction and did all the repair work (new bedside and left rear passenger door). I get about 18 mpg all stock. Sure you can get a little better with a light programmer. As i understand the LBZ was the last year before all the emissons bs and ran through mid 2007 (classic). Good luck.

mowerbrad
02-08-2010, 10:00 AM
I have looked at rebuild titled trucks, but the do "scare" me a little. And since it will also be my personal truck, I want to make sure it is perfect. I have looked at a few, but I just can't bring myself to actually buy one.

mowerbrad
02-08-2010, 06:17 PM
Well....high miles trucks are now out of the question. If it's a diesel it must have around 150k or less on it and I'm now also taking the Ford 7.3 diesel into consideration along with the duramax LLY generation. If I can find a loaded gas 1500 truck, I may even take that into consideration.

I've come to realize that I don't want to get into something that is going to be a money pit. And in realizing this, I figured the 260k truck is definately not the truck for me. I figure that if I spend $14k on a truck I don't want to spend another $6k on repairs over the next couple years. I need to be a little less picky in what I find and a little more open to what I find. But I also need to take a little more time to find what I want. I've only been searching for a little over a month, I've got plenty of time to find the right truck. I don't want to jump into something that I'm going to regret 6 months later.

South Florida Lawns
02-08-2010, 06:39 PM
I would offer them 10k max.