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irrig8r
02-05-2010, 11:28 AM
So, you've all seen it I'll bet... corroded and or stuck pins on bi pins, stuck lamps/ sockets in SCBs...

Have you tried lubricating either lamp pins or sockets?

NS used to sell a stinky petroleum grease as "socket saver". When I've used it, it tends to harden with heat and makes lamps harder to remove and sockets hard to clean.

Someone from Vista recommended I try GB Oxgard, found in a lot of hardware stores, but when I read the label, it's intended use if for aluminum wire connections.

Anyone ever tried silicone plumber's grease or petroleum jelly for this? Do I want a dielectric grease (said one factory rep) or a material that conducts?

INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting
02-05-2010, 12:03 PM
Here you go buddy:

http://www.truck-lite.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=10001&productId=23656&langId=-1

JoeyD
02-05-2010, 01:11 PM
we went over this a while ago, but the best stuff we could find that works the best and is a Di-Electic grease is NovaGard G66. Does not harden, it waterproofs, has excellent vacum sealing, and is a Di-Electric.


http://www.novagard.net/images/msds/Msds661.pdf

http://www.novagard.com/compounds/msds.html

irrig8r
02-05-2010, 01:17 PM
Can't seem to find that locally.

Found this though:

http://www.kragen.com/ProductDetail.aspx?MfrCode=PTX&MfrPartNumber=22058&CategoryCode=3451

irrig8r
02-05-2010, 01:24 PM
we went over this a while ago, but the best stuff we could find that works the best and is a Di-Electic grease is NovaGard G66. Does not harden, it waterproofs, has excellent vacum sealing, and is a Di-Electric.


http://www.novagard.net/images/msds/Msds661.pdf

http://www.novagard.com/compounds/msds.html


Yes I remember that Joey, I just couldn't remember the name.

OK... amazon.com carries it.

Talked to Pat in customer serviceat Novagard and it turns out that unless I want to buy 24 tubes at a time or 1 gal or 5 gal buckets that amazon.com is the only place to get it.

http://www.amazon.com/Novagard-Lubricating-Protecting-Dielectric-Silicone/dp/B001BNZ1AY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=industrial&qid=1265393973&sr=1-2

JoeyD
02-05-2010, 01:57 PM
you can get it from any of our distributors through us as well....

Gr1ffin
02-05-2010, 02:49 PM
I recommend this product:
http://www.sanchem.com/aSpecialE.html

I ship it to our factories and it is put on all Volt product sockets during assembly.

The main difference why we choose this dielectric grease is good for high temp applications (like halogen lamps). being waxed based (instead of oil based like most dielectric greases) it does not liquefy as easily (and even if it does, it leaves behind a thicker/better coating than oil based products.



All di-electirc greases will work well, but we did a good amount of research on dielectric greases for diff applications during our manufacturing due diligence.

Sincerely,

Alan

Gr1ffin
02-05-2010, 03:07 PM
"NO-OX-ID "A" is a heavy duty wax based rust preventative designed for hot application methods (160-180F). Upon cooling, the resultant corrosion resistant coating is amber colored, non-drying resistant to high humidity, salt spray, acid and alkali environments. This rust proofing product has been through long term corrosion studies of 3 years humidity cabinet testing (no corrosion) testing 3 years salt spray (no corrosion) and is NSF approved."

Lite4
02-05-2010, 03:39 PM
Hey Allen,

Can I order that from you.

S&MLL
02-05-2010, 03:40 PM
Lowes sells some stuff in a white tube. Use it on lighting sockets, plow connections, salter connections, even trailer hitch connector. $4.00 goes along way

Gr1ffin
02-05-2010, 03:56 PM
Hey Allen,

Can I order that from you.

Tim,

When I have time I should add it to our site (but that won't happen for a while). In the meantime, i'll just send you a can free if you email me your address.

Sincerely,

Alan

Lite4
02-05-2010, 04:20 PM
Tim,

When I have time I should add it to our site (but that won't happen for a while). In the meantime, i'll just send you a can free if you email me your address.

Sincerely,

Alan

Thanks Alan,

Check your PM for that

irrig8r
02-05-2010, 08:50 PM
Can't seem to find that locally.

Found this though:

http://www.kragen.com/ProductDetail.aspx?MfrCode=PTX&MfrPartNumber=22058&CategoryCode=3451

Well that link doesn't appear to work... but it's called Permatex Dielectric Tuneup Grease ...

Amazon says Nova-gard takes 2 to 3 weeks for delivery (!) ...

And the Truck-Lite site lists two distributors locally who are both out of business ...

So as much as I don't often deal with the two local irrigation houses that happen to carry Unique, John Deere and Horizon, I'll have to call and see if they stock it ...

Pro-Scapes
02-07-2010, 12:49 PM
I have a product from Boss... i think the number is 426. I picked up a case of it years ago and cant rememeber where but i think its been discontinued. 1 tube lasts a real long time. I keep it open capped on the side of my tool bag when I am installing and swab the lamp pins across it . Seems to work well.

BrandonV
02-08-2010, 04:13 PM
Lowes sells some stuff in a white tube. Use it on lighting sockets, plow connections, salter connections, even trailer hitch connector. $4.00 goes along way

Where do they keep it? I need some for my trailer.
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S&MLL
02-08-2010, 04:35 PM
Electrical isle. By the zipties and grounding bars

rlitman
02-08-2010, 04:49 PM
Permatex dielectric grease is great stuff. Fantastic on o-rings, and bulb pins. I also use it on high-bay and halogen bulb threads. The last container I bought, can in an aerosol form, with a long nozzle. I used that nozzle to flood the inside of a few GU-10 bases.
I've also used Dow Silicone high vacuum grease. Just about the same thing.

If you're absolutely worried about the grease dripping under extreme heat, you can use synthetic brake grease.

Pro-Scapes
02-09-2010, 10:33 PM
I have a product from Boss... i think the number is 426. I picked up a case of it years ago and cant rememeber where but i think its been discontinued. 1 tube lasts a real long time. I keep it open capped on the side of my tool bag when I am installing and swab the lamp pins across it . Seems to work well.

I looked at the tube today. Mine is Boss compound 440.

emby
02-09-2010, 10:49 PM
Will automotive lithium dielectric grease work as well?

David Gretzmier
02-12-2010, 09:48 PM
I'd have to look in my bag for the number, but I am currently using a silicone base dielectric grease from 3m on all pins and o-rings. I went to my local grainger and asked for 3m dielectric grease and they brought out that tube for about 12 bucks. I have used it probably 1000 times and I am halfway through a 3-5 ounce tube after a year.