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AEL
02-08-2010, 06:38 PM
Hey guys, looking at purchasing a 2nd company truck for a real good deal. its an 2004 dodge ram 1500 laramie 4x4 with the hemi. Just curious as to wether anyone on here tows with them or a comparable half ton. whats the most you can legally tow with one of these? I would be hoping to tow a t190 or s185, the odd time(read not daily, just when my 3/4 tonne isnt available)

thanks.

-also the trailer is a tandem axle and weighs 2460 pds i believe

Gravel Rat
02-08-2010, 06:48 PM
If I was buying a gasser pickup in a half ton it probably would be a Chevy. Anybody I know that has a hemi 1500 says its got power but it drinks the gas. The Hemi trucks also have those large diameter wheels with the low pro rubber not sure how well they would do pulling a heavy load.

Boss Exc.
02-08-2010, 06:49 PM
Hey guys, looking at purchasing a 2nd company truck for a real good deal. its an 2004 dodge ram 1500 laramie 4x4 with the hemi. Just curious as to wether anyone on here tows with them or a comparable half ton. whats the most you can legally tow with one of these? I would be hoping to tow a t190 or s185, the odd time(read not daily, just when my 3/4 tonne isnt available)

thanks.

-also the trailer is a tandem axle and weighs 2460 pds i believe

Oh boy these guy's are gonna give you HELL for towing with a half ton.:laugh:

I agree with them...Even every so often a T-190 is alot of weight for a half ton.If it were me I would try and find a 3/4 ton FORD.

AEL
02-08-2010, 07:18 PM
Like stated in my original post, this truck is only when my 3/4 tonne is not available. I have seen a few people around here tow t190 and 257b behind half tons , but i just wanted some opinions from anyone on here who does.

Junior M
02-08-2010, 08:09 PM
GR, you might as well forget that drinking the fuel thing, buddy of mine has one and when I borrowed it for the week. I got 14mpg. I only get 15 out of the Dakota!

Any gas motor that has some ass behind it is going to drink some gas..

TSS, I think that Dodge would do it, nothing like a 3/4ton but it'd do it if you NEEDED it..

backhoe
02-08-2010, 08:16 PM
I'm sure it will work as long as you don't mind not being able to steer, stop, or keep the safety chains from dragging.

stuvecorp
02-08-2010, 08:26 PM
We got a stripped down F250 that has a 5.4 and it can pull the skid but it is not fun and would not recommend it personally.

DirtMerchant
02-08-2010, 10:45 PM
I towed a bobcat with a Toyota pickup once.


The next week I sold it to a guy in Idaho.


lol

Scag48
02-08-2010, 11:32 PM
Legal? Possibly. Will the truck do it? Definately, but it won't be the best option, obviously. As long as you're aware of both of those conditions, the decision is up to you. I personally wouldn't plan on towing anything over 7,000 pounds with a half ton truck, even occasionally. Been there, done that, won't do it again but that's just me. You could go out for the maiden voyage, have something go wrong, and kill someone or yourself in the process all to save a couple bucks. Not worth it IMO.

Gravel Rat
02-09-2010, 12:21 AM
Most half ton trucks are mainly daily drivers or carrying light load they are a little heavier than the previous years that used 15 inch wheels and smaller brakes. The trucks are still no designed for carrying or pulling alot of weight even a occasional heavy trailer isn't that safe.

catnip
02-09-2010, 01:51 AM
I tow my bobcat with my 1/2 ton. It is about 4700lbs (S130) + 1300 or so for the trailer, so probably a bit over 6000lbs. My truck can tow a max of 8000lbs. It tows this ok, however I am not sure if I would want to do a long haul with it. For short hauls around town it performs very well.

I would never even consider towing that much without trailer brakes. That is asking for trouble.

The models you listed are quite a bit heavier, so you would probably be over 8000lbs with trailer. That may be a bit much.

Junior M
02-09-2010, 09:39 AM
I tow my bobcat with my 1/2 ton. It is about 4700lbs (S130) + 1300 or so for the trailer, so probably a bit over 6000lbs. My truck can tow a max of 8000lbs. It tows this ok, however I am not sure if I would want to do a long haul with it. For short hauls around town it performs very well.

I would never even consider towing that much without trailer brakes. That is asking for trouble.

The models you listed are quite a bit heavier, so you would probably be over 8000lbs with trailer. That may be a bit much.
Nah, we've got a member that moves his 297C with a F150, its just fine! :cool2: :laugh:

catnip
02-09-2010, 12:44 PM
Nah, we've got a member that moves his 297C with a F150, its just fine! :cool2: :laugh:

Yikes, that thing weighs over 10,000lbs doesn't it? Plus the trailer weight?

:dizzy: :dizzy:

RLLServicesCT
02-09-2010, 01:19 PM
I tow with my 2002 dodge ram 1500 sport with the 5.9 magnum and it has PLENTY of power, however my fuel milage is horrific. I consistantly tow 4-5K lbs with my landscape trailer averaging 11-12mpg, but the limit is about 8,000K lbs legally. The mileage really sucks when you are towing over 6,000lbs. It'll tow it just fine, but I also have the larger breaks and calibers on the wheels for stopping power. My 02' is right next to a 2500 comparably with the gas engine. If its a good deal for you, go for the 04', but as for me, I plan on moving to an f250 or f350 diesel in the future.

MOREDIRT
02-09-2010, 03:15 PM
The guy that says he owns a deere 450d and 650j and a bunch of other equipment only has 1 3/4 ton truck and is looking to add a 1500 dodge to pull with and he is on here asking what we think? :confused:

AEL
02-10-2010, 01:20 AM
Deff have never said i owned a 650j mabee a 450j. And for a heads up do some research before you try to post something negative. I am in a partnership that I am getting out of and i am starting my own thing running smaller equipment.

Yes i only own a 3/4 tonne truck so? All of our smaller equipment has always been towed by the kenworth t800 tri axle dump with the jc trailers tri axle tag, or in the t300 kw bin truck. So towing with pick ups has never ever been an issue.

hvy 1ton
02-10-2010, 09:52 PM
I would go for a 3/4 ton ford or dodge gasser for a backup truck if for no other reason than you get a solid front axle. I say that because i'm about $3K deep in suspension parts for a gmc 2500hd. And that's with 285/75/16 tires.:cry:
Another really good reason is the increase in rear axle and transmission strength.

ARP
02-10-2010, 10:14 PM
Hey Sean,

I'm kinda leaning along the lines of the other guys on here. A 1/2 is really small for any towing of a sizeable load like what you want to tow. If the truck is a good deal, buy it and use it as a daily driver and tow with the 3/4 ton. Just because it's a good deal though, doesn't mean it's a good buy for your company. I just went to the wake today and am going to the funeral tomorrow of my mentor in the sitework industry. Life's short and it's not worth taking a chance at making it shorter just because something looks like a good buy. My 2 cents.

On another note, I'm waiting to hear back from the individual after his trip back from the Jacmel area on the 2nd of march. I'll let you know what I hear.

AEL
02-10-2010, 11:43 PM
Thanks for the advice Andrew and sorry to hear about your friend, how did he die?
Also im waiting to hear from my father who has been in Jacmel for the past two weeks but havent herd nothing. I might even go down there next week or the following week. Aparently there is quite a bit of equipment moving around but not alot of experienced operators.

ARP
02-11-2010, 05:56 AM
Hope your dad is ok down there Sean.

My friend died snow mobiling on trails that he has been going on for a long time. From what we have heard, it was a freak accident. He and his brother owned a 300+ person sitework, mining, trucking, and recycling firm in my area.

Keep me posted about Jacmel.

Swampy
02-11-2010, 11:12 AM
I think towards the future, but wouldn't something like a 1 ton or F450 size with a mason dump be better? Keep the 3/4ton. Heck I just saw on here a guy getting rid of his 01 F550 for $4,500.

I'd avoid the 1/2 ton, leave them for pulling lawn mowers around. My 94 Dodge 1500 with the 5.9L 360 averages around 8mpg in the city, and if i'm lucky 10mpg on the freeway. I'd agree to GR for this point. Dodges are not known for their gas mileage. It's probably just the truck since it just clicked 190,000 miles, getting old to doesn't help.

Gravel Rat
02-11-2010, 03:47 PM
One guy I work with has a Dodge Hemi 1500 he likes the power just a little piggy on the fuel for being a half ton pickup. When they first came out guys were buying them because of the power you could have a 2 tire fire really easy.

Now the 360 Magnum yes those are very heavy on the fuel another person I know has one in a 2500 4x4 he says at best 10 mpg with a empty truck.

I started with a half ton years ago doing landscaping I put heavier springs put into it then after dealing with brakes and bent axles.

For a daily driver going out to do job estimates or doing running around like picking up supplies like pipe or loads where your not exceeding 1000lbs a half ton is fine.

You want to carry some weight or pull some weight the rear axle has to be a full floater with 4 wheel bearings supporting the load.

CM_HEMI
07-08-2010, 08:21 PM
Hate to bring up old threads but i found this one and had to responde casue i have an 2005 dodge ram 1500 4x4 with the hemi and i've towed a bobcat 753 on a few occasions with an old tank of a car trailer. Granted i didnt go far, but even with out trailer brakes i felt perfectly comfortable towing it and im no master at towing by any means.

http://i26.tinypic.com/2n184df.jpg

and this had it on the bumps more than the trailer did for sure...

http://i32.tinypic.com/6gv57c.jpg