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ioilyouin
02-09-2010, 03:25 PM
I'll start off nice and slow with some old pics from yesteryear. Action photos will begin in earnest in late spring.

Our old office. Formerly occupied by my Grandparents, the roof was taken off in a microburst several years ago so this building was demoed. I wish we had that gas pump in the back.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/old%20pics/scan0007.jpg

Our second office being demoed, I can't tell you anything about the loader but I can ask.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/old%20pics/scan0005.jpg

Our current shop, shortly after it was finished.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/old%20pics/scan0004.jpg

A former hotmix plant. My dad is pictured.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/old%20pics/scan0006.jpg

ioilyouin
02-09-2010, 03:34 PM
Picking up a new trailer in July of '76.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/old%20pics/scan0009.jpg

Worst wreck in our history, dirver fell asleep and drove through curve. Thankfully he was empty and no one was hurt.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/old%20pics/scan0003.jpg

Trailer from picture above after wreck. Truck was totaled and trailer was salvaged. We purchased trailer in '76 and kept in use until Mid 2000's, it is currently being used by county South of us.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/old%20pics/scan0001.jpg

Another pic of truck.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/old%20pics/scan0002.jpg

ioilyouin
02-09-2010, 03:43 PM
Some of the many trucks we've had over the years. At one point we had seven tractors but now we keep just three and sub out the rest. We transitioned from Fords-Freighliners-Kenworths. There was also the occasional International or Western-Star.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/old%20pics/scan0010.jpg

Our '89 Dodge. We kept the bed and now is on our '03 550.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/old%20pics/scan0011.jpg

Our first new spreader, purchased as a unit in 1966 for less than$7000.00
We still have it and it will run again some day.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/old%20pics/scan0008.jpg

wanabe
02-09-2010, 07:16 PM
I seem to remember the Ford truck in the last pics oiling streets in nashville many years ago. Just wondering but who has your old tanker in washington co?

stuvecorp
02-09-2010, 07:41 PM
Those old Ford cabovers are classics.:)

ioilyouin
02-09-2010, 10:37 PM
I seem to remember the Ford truck in the last pics oiling streets in nashville many years ago. Just wondering but who has your old tanker in washington co?

no one. it went to Metropolis, what ever that county is.

ioilyouin
02-09-2010, 10:42 PM
Those old Ford cabovers are classics.:)

at one time we had 5, but now just two. The last one we had for a parts truck. I hauled it to a truck junk yard where they had dozens from Roadway. They were yanking the axles, trannys and engines to ship to South America and scrapping the rest.

I asked my dad about that truck in the pic, he corrected me and said truck and spreader was 8600 new in '66

wanabe
02-09-2010, 10:56 PM
no one. it went to Metropolis, what ever that county is.

Oh Massac county where I take trains

ioilyouin
02-09-2010, 11:04 PM
Oh Massac county where I take trains
???
I seem to remember the Ford truck in the last pics oiling streets in nashville many years ago. Just wondering but who has your old tanker in washington co?

It runs with a Ford industial engine on the back. Yes, it has covered a lot of streets. We kept it in operation until the early 90's. Now no one wants to see it because it doesn't have controls in the cab. So now it's our parade truck in waiting.

wanabe
02-09-2010, 11:32 PM
???


It runs with a Ford industial engine on the back. Yes, it has covered a lot of streets. We kept it in operation until the early 90's. Now no one wants to see it because it doesn't have controls in the cab. So now it's our parade truck in waiting.


You guys still oil alot of roads or has it cut back some due to $? Seems like our township is just oiling a few roads now due to the high price of oil and lack of funding. Alot of the roads are going to heck right now not having the yearly oil/chip.

ioilyouin
02-10-2010, 12:24 AM
You guys still oil alot of roads or has it cut back some due to $? Seems like our township is just oiling a few roads now due to the high price of oil and lack of funding. Alot of the roads are going to heck right now not having the yearly oil/chip.

We've been cut back due to funding shortfalls and product increases. ( not to mention increased competition ) Everyone (municipalities) have been cut in half or better in less than 5 years. The township roads mostly started as oiled dirt, so there's no substantial base under them. Add to that bigger loads today, drainage issues for various reasons, and the freeze thaw cycle. You'll start seeing rock roads again unless things change.

ioilyouin
02-10-2010, 12:03 PM
I remembered this tear out from Construction Digest Oct. 7,1971. They came out to do a story on the MF loader because we had one of the first ones in the area. I don't know if you'll be able to see in the pic, but they superimposed a hardhat on my dad. Pop said we only kept it a year or two, very agile, but without 4wd very limited in what you could do. He said when he had to road it, he would drive it backwards due to the whip from going forwards.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/old%20pics/scan00012.jpg

ioilyouin
03-04-2010, 12:26 AM
I finally got a job with my U35 and US Mower. Here's some pics from today.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/Equipment/DSCN4998.jpg
before
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN4990.jpg
before zoom
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN4991.jpg
1 hr in
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN4992.jpg
zoomed
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN4993.jpg
finished
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN4994.jpg
zoomed
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN4995.jpg
from the other end
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN4996.jpg

curtisfarmer
03-04-2010, 09:54 AM
How did the mower work in that thicker brush?

stuvecorp
03-04-2010, 01:44 PM
How did the mower work in that thicker brush?

Hope it was warmer than it looked.:) How long did it take for the whole thing?

wanabe
03-04-2010, 10:57 PM
Hope it was warmer than it looked.:) How long did it take for the whole thing?


It was about 40 today, with a strong wind. I tried to go bass fishing late the afternoon but was froze after 20 min lol!

ioilyouin
03-04-2010, 11:34 PM
How did the mower work in that thicker brush?
Suprisingly well.
Hope it was warmer than it looked.:) How long did it take for the whole thing?
It was in the low 40's. It took me 4 hrs to cut that section, around all the trees and limbs that had already been felled there.

ioilyouin
03-04-2010, 11:45 PM
Worked on another section today. This is spaced out in three areas on one road. I should finish tomorrow.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/Equipment/DSCN5002.jpg
I also took the time to shoot a video today. Thanks to Ron for the advice on the camera mount. I haven't bought a magnet yet so I just suctioned the camera to the ROPS. You can see it in the shadow. I am wondering if others with mowers stall out like mine. The stumps are 3"+/- when I start to stall.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V23DPnyqn44
Tom

curtisfarmer
03-05-2010, 09:37 AM
Mysticalflounder (great Youtube name by the way....my last name IS Fish), great video.:) I thought that did pretty well in the brush, gives me more confidence than the pics and vids of it high grass and your initial thoughts you had posted. I want 1 so bad for my KX121, I wish I could rent or borrow 1 prior to purchase to make sure it will do what I want......although I don't have the $ or the paying jobs for it yet. I bet the mower would mow my wallet better than thicker brush:nono:

BTW, why not bugee up those hoses to the dipper. Also, would you feel having a thumb with mower would be useful? How is the oil temperature?

ioilyouin
03-05-2010, 09:41 PM
BTW, why not bugee up those hoses to the dipper. Also, would you feel having a thumb with mower would be useful? How is the oil temperature?

Did that today and managed to hook the bungee on a branch. It would not break, the hook just untwisted. A thumb would definitely help. So many times I would top a tree to tall to reach and I would have a 6' end somewhere to chase down and chop up. Or at least something that I could put some weight against. I read that I shouldn't use it like a bucket since it may become untrue. It gets tricky trying to walk it down slopes and not really being able to use the stick. I monitor the guages and haven't noticed anything yet.

wanabe
03-06-2010, 12:22 AM
You were mowing in my neck of the woods! My farm is out on North Carolina RD. You were in bolo township right?

ioilyouin
03-06-2010, 09:03 AM
Yes, the first part I did was on Lake rd..

ioilyouin
03-08-2010, 11:27 AM
Some more pics of Nebraska RD.
Before
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN2879.jpg

During
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN2881.jpg

After
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN2882.jpg

The customer was aware that I wouldn't be able to take all of the trees all the way down. He will come back later and finish with a saw.

curtisfarmer
03-08-2010, 12:51 PM
That looks great:) That mower works fine IMO with brush and what not. Pretty good match with that U35.

stuvecorp
03-08-2010, 02:08 PM
If you had more hydraulic flow would it handle those trees that you left or would you need a different mower head to do them? It does look much better. How has it been selling this kind of work?

ioilyouin
03-08-2010, 10:46 PM
That looks great:) That mower works fine IMO with brush and what not. Pretty good match with that U35.
Thank you. I don't like that I am constantly turning the hyds on and off to extend the stick. It's obvious to me that there is room for improvement. I am definitely at the max for this machine though. It's plenty tippy, but that could be a partially to blame on the fact that I sped up the hyds to compensate for lack thereof. If I'm trying to extend the stick and turn off the aux it will really pop the stick. I'd like some more counterweight, but I haven't put too much thought in that one yet. I do like the fact that even on the narrow road I didn't have to move over to allow traffic through. 0 tail swing :cool2:

If you had more hydraulic flow would it handle those trees that you left or would you need a different mower head to do them? It does look much better. How has it been selling this kind of work?
I'm debating hitting up a couple of salesmen to see if we could set up a demo to see the difference. I've asked ARP to review my video, but he hasn't responded yet. Selling the work has been slow. I sent out a qustionaire to about 100 customers and I mentioned the mower, along with some other stuff. OF those I got about 40 back and about 10 were interested. This was my first hire, I've got two other commitments and haven't heard from the rest. It will be slow at first, several said they would be interested if they had $$.

I looked at US MOwer and Cimaf to see about upping capacity but it appears that I would need at least a 15T excv. to do so. That's not in the cards right now.

ioilyouin
03-13-2010, 01:40 AM
The next two weeks will be pretty stressful for us. Our three main maintenance contracts will be up for bidding. There will be a lot of competition, and everyone is hungry. We've had some of these contracts for nearly 35 years, but every year is a whole new start. My suppliers are being tight lipped about final prices, but I expect some downward movement. The numbers I have seen from other counties in the district are scary.

curtisfarmer
03-13-2010, 10:17 AM
We used to see only oiling/sanding and now chip coating in the last few years. Now, from what I am told by my good friend who is town road agent, it is basically the same $ to do an overlay and that is the way they are planning $ wise for the future. No seal coating at all. I live in NH in an old town from 1739 and the roads are basically manure and topsoil which was eventually oiled over and became streets. Accordingly, the frost heaves are UNBELIEVABLE. I am not joking, you can barely drive. They have to go around with sand and fill in the bad heaves/ holes so no one gets hurt.

Standard practice is to bring in a reclaimer which grinds up the top 2'+/-..add some gravel...compact as road base...and go with 1 thick layer 1st. Let sit 1-2 years, repave.

ARP
03-13-2010, 02:14 PM
Sorry, I've been away from good internet access for a bit. A few of those trees could be ground down a bit more with a little more flow, but for the most part the results look the same. After running the mower on the 50D for a while, I've noticed no loss in performance when I had to move the stick, but I did notice some when I have to move the arm up and down. I just flip the trigger button quickly, make my height adjustment, and keep on mowing. The mower tends to keeping spinning at high revolutions a lot longer with no flow to it then my mulcher does, so that is why it is possible to keep toggling the flow while making adjustments to the boom and not loose any time mowing.

ioilyouin
03-13-2010, 05:43 PM
We used to see only oiling/sanding and now chip coating in the last few years. Now, from what I am told by my good friend who is town road agent, it is basically the same $ to do an overlay and that is the way they are planning $ wise for the future. No seal coating at all. I live in NH in an old town from 1739 and the roads are basically manure and topsoil which was eventually oiled over and became streets. Accordingly, the frost heaves are UNBELIEVABLE. I am not joking, you can barely drive. They have to go around with sand and fill in the bad heaves/ holes so no one gets hurt.

Standard practice is to bring in a reclaimer which grinds up the top 2'+/-..add some gravel...compact as road base...and go with 1 thick layer 1st. Let sit 1-2 years, repave.

A lot of the same things here. They used to oil the dirt and then come with a blade or a tree branch and turn it over. They would cover with sawdust, sand, and dirt. We have some really bad heaving going on as well, 6+ in isn't out of the question. They have tried to reclaim rural oil and chip roads but end up pulling up mud and making things worse. We seem to get better results building the roads up with a mixture of road pack (CA-6 or Grade 8 in our neck of the woods) and emulsified asphalt. This can take several applications or in a worse case scenario we will core it out.

ioilyouin
03-18-2010, 11:24 AM
I've got bids today at 1 and 7:30. Approximately 45-50% of my regular contract work is on the table, and I'm in the middle of a supplier war. Going to make for an interesting day.

ioilyouin
03-19-2010, 12:17 AM
Won 95% of what I was bidding on today. I don't like my margins, (second lowest I have see thusfar) but if I want work this is the game I'm playing. Lost about a 40K portion by $34.00, but took home 800K by about 6K. That means I'll have some videos and pics for the summer.

stuvecorp
03-19-2010, 12:23 AM
Good to hear you got most of what you wanted(not the price part).:)

ioilyouin
03-25-2010, 12:21 AM
Had the third and final large bid yesterday. Lost the whole works, the largest portion was 940K and I lost by $412. But I'm not out yet, I'm in the process of protesting the other contractor's bid. I'm hoping to get him kicked out on a technicality. We shall see.

curtisfarmer
03-25-2010, 12:54 PM
Pretty tight bids huh? As a %, that is teenny figure.:cry:

ioilyouin
03-25-2010, 01:38 PM
All told on that bid, my total 1,273786.26, competition 1,271,145.17. I should know by Friday if I got it or not.

all ferris
03-25-2010, 09:53 PM
I assume you work for municipalities and townships. Probably really close to me (trenton)??? To be honest, as a tax payer, I expect my tax money to go as far as possible. However, I also like to see my money go to the local economy. Do you bid only local or do you travel. I have seen a few "out of town" paving (asphalt) crews at some of the hotels I maintain.


good thread and very interesting that you choose to share your numbers. Although, we have no idea what those numbers represent and if you do get the bid it will probably be public knowledge.

all ferris
03-25-2010, 10:04 PM
I'm not sure how you buy oil but maybe the price of oil will go down and your margins will go up. Where do you guys get all the oil from??? I know your not going to Rural King and buying 55 gal at at time.... Oelze????

ioilyouin
03-26-2010, 12:20 AM
I assume you work for municipalities and townships. Probably really close to me (trenton)??? To be honest, as a tax payer, I expect my tax money to go as far as possible. However, I also like to see my money go to the local economy. Do you bid only local or do you travel. I have seen a few "out of town" paving (asphalt) crews at some of the hotels I maintain.


good thread and very interesting that you choose to share your numbers. Although, we have no idea what those numbers represent and if you do get the bid it will probably be public knowledge.

County, township, and towns are my bread and butter, but I also do 10-15% private as filler. We can't travel too far as costs begin to rise and the ability to effectively schedule goes out the window. I travel the Metro East and will cover up to a 100 mile radius for certain customers.

I assume you're referring to the fly-by nights at Caseyville? Last year an out of town crew had a local on the hook for a ton of money for an O&C job. They were suspicious, called the sheriff, who called the county engineer, who called me. He wanted to know what I thought of the price and I gave an honest opinion of what I would do the job for, and what I thought an outrageous amount would be. The guys finished the work and ended up taking only my outrageous amount, which was less than 50% of what they were asking.:laugh:

Yes my bids are public knowledge so I see no need for the smoke and mirrors. The bid was a total of four line items for furnishing and applying oil for an entire county and furnishing and mixing oil and rock at various jobsites for road repair.

I'm not sure how you buy oil but maybe the price of oil will go down and your margins will go up. Where do you guys get all the oil from??? I know your not going to Rural King and buying 55 gal at at time.... Oelze????

That won't happen.:cry: My suppliers quote me materials for the entire year because that's how the bids are set up. I wish that the State would use a price index that would fluctuate with the market but they won't. So in turn my suppliers have to protect themselves against swings in the market. In theory it should work, but my competition will just lower his price and keep his same margin instead of try to make a little extra.:hammerhead::confused:

Oelze is just a crude oil producer, they are selling to refineries, who in turn make gas, diesel, liquid asphalt, etc.. They sell to my suppliers who are buying refined material, which they in turn blend into the various grades that I shoot on the roads. There may be a couple other hands in there, but that's the chain in a nutshell.

all ferris
03-26-2010, 09:16 AM
yea....you know exactly what out of towners I am talking about.

ioilyouin
04-20-2010, 03:00 PM
I've been fairly busy with my mini and other equipment. I really don't have time to set up for pics, but today we were working in the yard. We took 500+ Tons of CA-6/ Grade 8/ roadpack and ran it through this portable mixing machine. The video is a time lapse with pics evey minute. I would have liked to set up the camera in a different location, but we needed to get going. Sorry, but there is no sound, it's only 9 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqWDe2UHvBg

wanabe
04-20-2010, 09:20 PM
Do you guys own your own machine to make the bam or do you rent? I have watched them make it at Mollers before, and its amazing how fast it can be made.

bobcat_ron
04-20-2010, 09:31 PM
I've been fairly busy with my mini and other equipment. I really don't have time to set up for pics, but today we were working in the yard. We took 500+ Tons of CA-6/ Grade 8/ roadpack and ran it through this portable mixing machine. The video is a time lapse with pics evey minute. I would have liked to set up the camera in a different location, but we needed to get going. Sorry, but there is no sound, it's only 9 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqWDe2UHvBg

Dude that was awesome! Nothing like a full day's work in 9 seconds.

ioilyouin
04-20-2010, 11:58 PM
Do you guys own your own machine to make the bam or do you rent? I have watched them make it at Mollers before, and its amazing how fast it can be made.
I wish I owned that machine. It has paid for itself several times over. That is the same one that Moeller rents. IT stays busy all spring, and most of the summer. I've tried to buy it off of Marathon, but they've got it too good to let it go.

Dude that was awesome! Nothing like a full day's work in 9 seconds.

Actually it was only about four hours with cleanup. We ran out of rock and took a break to see if any more was nearby. That and the operator on the Deere couldn't keep up so we had to shut down twice to let him catch up. With close piles and bigger loaders you can easily turn a load out in two hours. I was on the Bobcat, I tried to feed the mixer but I just didn't have enough height. I could reach over but couldn't dump all the way because of a screen in the hopper.

ioilyouin
04-27-2010, 03:54 PM
Yesterday I did some demonstration mowing for a township nearby. The commissioner wants to see what kind of production I can get and to let his board see what can be done. I only did one side of the road, but the results were pretty evident.
Down the hill
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN2889.jpg
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN2890.jpg
Up the hill
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN2892.jpg
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN2891.jpg
Another spot before
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN2887.jpg
After
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN2888.jpg

ioilyouin
04-28-2010, 11:04 PM
My father-in-law has been after me to come over and rock his driveway. Some portions needed rock while others just needed to be opened up and regraded. So I took our Kubota because I wanted to use the box blade to rip some areas, our roller and dump with chip gate. Had to get rid of a lot of debris in the corners.
Before
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN2893.jpg
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN2894.jpg
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN2895.jpg
After
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN2896.jpg
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN2897.jpg
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN2898.jpg
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN2899.jpg

Blue Goose
04-28-2010, 11:16 PM
Geeze, what a difference! Looks fantastic!

ARP
04-28-2010, 11:32 PM
Wow! Nice job! The pics really show a good before and after in both cases.

93turbo
04-29-2010, 12:11 AM
gotta love a box scraper with chisels to bring the rock back to the top

hvy 1ton
04-29-2010, 01:01 AM
That culvert is little shallow for my comfort.

ioilyouin
04-29-2010, 01:18 AM
Wow! Nice job! The pics really show a good before and after in both cases.
Did you catch the stop motion video a little earlier in the thread?
gotta love a box scraper with chisels to bring the rock back to the top
We have some custom skids on the box blade to help alleviavte the wavyness that comes from 3pt implements.
That culvert is little shallow for my comfort.
I agree 100%. Former township commissioner just came by and dropped it in one day, no level or anything else. The ends are curled up and bare metal was showing in places before I put three coats of rock over the top. They run tandems with 20 yd dumpsters over it.:hammerhead:

93turbo
04-29-2010, 11:06 PM
We have some custom skids on the box blade to help alleviavte the wavyness that comes from 3pt implements.


yep we have wheels that we can put down out the back when it comes time to level things

ioilyouin
05-04-2010, 10:13 PM
I've got a couple of days of mowing for one of the townships. Here are a couple of pics from today.
Before
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN2900.jpg
After
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN2901.jpg
Some finished work on a bigger ditch
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN2903.jpg
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN2904.jpg
Tomorrow
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN2902.jpg

AEL
05-04-2010, 10:46 PM
Work looks good! Corn looks like its off to a good start too

wanabe
05-04-2010, 11:29 PM
Dang, I can almost see my place in pic number 3! Looks like you were working for Nashville Township?

ioilyouin
05-05-2010, 12:33 AM
yes, I'll be in the Nixon/Tyler area pretty much all day tomorrow. Stop by if you get a chance.

wanabe
05-05-2010, 08:14 AM
yes, I'll be in the Nixon/Tyler area pretty much all day tomorrow. Stop by if you get a chance.


Wish I could, but I will be at Walnut Hill the next few days. One of my friends has a newer house on Nixon Rd.

wanabe
05-05-2010, 08:26 PM
Lets see the pics! I seen you heading home about 4:30 north of town.

ioilyouin
05-05-2010, 08:41 PM
I've got 2 videos from today. I've already uploaded a timelapse and am currently loading a long video. The timelapse is of me cutting hedge along a fencerow. It was supposed to be a video of the last hour of work, but I got tangled in 3 strands of barbwire early on and it took me a while to get it out. The hedge is very tough, it makes the whole mower shake and it just comes out as a fine dust (great for my alergies).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1B20pIpEk0

ioilyouin
05-06-2010, 07:21 AM
Finally got the other video loaded. Just mowing regrowth along a road in Washington Co., IL.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4XuumLfEAE

ioilyouin
05-19-2010, 09:18 PM
I'm still doing some mowing for one of the local townships when I can work it in, but I had to pull off early today to do a prime coat for a local blacktopper that we service. Just some before and after pics today.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN5242.jpg
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN5244.jpg

http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN5245.jpg
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wanabe
05-20-2010, 10:36 AM
Just a guess but is that at Greenville? Who is black toping it?

ioilyouin
05-20-2010, 10:55 AM
yes it is. Rooters from Beckemeyer.

ARP
05-20-2010, 11:28 AM
Nice finish with that mower on the slope there. Looks like some nice mowing- not a lot of large hardwoods in there :drinkup: How are your blades holding up?

wanabe
05-20-2010, 06:51 PM
yes it is. Rooters from Beckemeyer.

Did not realize they still blacktoped. What ever happened to the outfit from Keysport that blacktoped at one time?

ioilyouin
05-21-2010, 12:52 AM
Nice finish with that mower on the slope there. Looks like some nice mowing- not a lot of large hardwoods in there :drinkup: How are your blades holding up?

Funny you should ask that, I was thinking of asking you the same thing. That ditch is one of the softest patches I've got. This job is littered with oak, black locust, and hedge. :dizzy: Not to mention the fact that sections I'm mowing over have rip rap, busted concrete, and exposed rebar occasionally. I actually chopped my case drain line in two today. I let the loop come undone and was trying to finish the last 1/2 hour without getting off or getting rained on. :hammerhead: I'll take some pics of the mower deck and the blades and you do the same. I'd like to compare.

Did not realize they still blacktoped. What ever happened to the outfit from Keysport that blacktoped at one time?

Yes, they've gotten fairly large. They have bought quite a lot of equipment since I've been sub'ing for them. That's their new Gehlamustanaeuchi 80 in the pic. They are filling a large portion of the void left by Christ Bros., when they went highway.

Keyesport Asphalt was bought out by Howell Asphalt from Mattoon. It's a good way to eliminate competition, if you've got the bank.

wanabe
05-21-2010, 09:20 AM
So Christ is highway only now? My dad has hauled alot of rock for them in the past, but come to think of it I do not remember when he last worked for them.

ioilyouin
05-21-2010, 11:52 PM
Yes, they are primarily geared toward highway now that they have 2 plants of their own. I cannot even begin to imagine what their bank note is now.:dizzy: Drive back to their lot on the South side of the tracks. They own quite a bit of everything back there.

Good news! The case drain line that I cut, stripped the fitting out of the orifice on the motor. When I put in the new fitting in, it wouldn't tighten. I thought I had ruined the case. :cry: I took it to the local hydraulic shop and they were able to retap it without any other work. They were able to fix it in a couple of hours. I didn't get anything done with all the running around, but they only charged me $27 and I was expecting to spend a couple hundred if the case was ruined. :dancing: SO good day all in all. I'm going to work in the morning to try and catch up.

ioilyouin
05-25-2010, 10:27 PM
Yesterday I dug alongside a basement so that a brick ledge could be added to an existing home, unfortunately I didn't have time for pics. Today back out mowing and was able to finish up a large ditch that I ad been working on. Tomorrow I'll be back at it again.

http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN5249.jpg

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wanabe
05-25-2010, 10:34 PM
Very nice job! I never would have thought in a million years that you would have got so much work from all the townships. I know mine(dubois) is about as broke as they can get, and would never have funding for this, all though they need your service bad.

Dirtman2007
05-25-2010, 10:36 PM
Looking good! I'm glad you've found so much mowing work to do. I'd like to get into it some more but sure would like some commitments before buying 10K worth of mowers.

ioilyouin
05-25-2010, 11:02 PM
Very nice job! I never would have thought in a million years that you would have got so much work from all the townships. I know mine(dubois) is about as broke as they can get, and would never have funding for this, all though they need your service bad.

I've probably got 4 more days in Washington Co. and 1 day in Clinton Co. and 3 days in Bond when it gets really dry and an unknown number in Washington Co. later this summer. That's the dilemma they are all facing, I'm just looking to get a day or two's worth of work from the townships. If I could get that every year it would be beneficial to all of us.

Looking good! I'm glad you've found so much mowing work to do. I'd like to get into it some more but sure would like some commitments before buying 10K worth of mowers.

Thank you. I hope you're planing to put said mower on something other than the minis, since you don't have a cab on either. It can be done but I wouldn't recommend it. I'd be a liar if I didn't tell you that I really stumbled into this. All I can hope is that it lasts. Every time I'm on the road I get tons of stares. I just wonder how long it will take to see another mini with a mower in the area.

ioilyouin
05-26-2010, 11:17 PM
This morning I took a picture of the 550 before I left this morning. It had 30,000 miles and a couple of tenths. It's an '03 that we purchased as a cab & chassis in February of '08 with like 8900 miles. The bed came off of a previously owned truck.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/Equipment/DSCN5250.jpg

Then it was back to mowing more ditches. I finished the ditch but neglected to take a pic. The farmers whose field I was on are nuts about walnut trees. So I had to leave some walnuts on the corner. They have hired me asap to clean out a drainage ditch on their property leaving only, you guessed it walnuts!
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The drainage ditch
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Gravel Rat
05-27-2010, 01:05 AM
You would see your dog run away for miles around your area :laugh:

I don't think I could get used to living in a area with no mountains :dizzy:

My opinion on a tractor mounted brush cutter could do that job in the pictures but it would be real pain in the azz to cut around the trees and I can see why you want more reach.

It must be horrible mowing in a open ROPs machine you must be covered in fine dust and debris if the wind picks up. A full cab machine with lexan forestry windows along with A/C and satelite radio would be nice.

DirtMerchant
05-27-2010, 02:10 AM
My old international use to have a drop down disc/flail mower. The city came and ran a new ditch through our old farm and never mowed it, so one day I was told to go out an mow it. So I dropped the mower and ran along the whole ditch. Got a call from the city a few weeks later 7am asking who mowed the ditch. I just played dumb because I had just gotten out of bed and couldn't get my thoughts together. Turns out they were missed off because someone had mowed 128 trees they had planted along the ditch. They were small trees 2-3 feet tall and in the long grass never saw em. Luckily got away with it, back in the day.:walking:

ioilyouin
05-27-2010, 09:13 PM
ARP! Here's some pics of my EX30. Post some if you can for comparison. I believe it's got approximately 100 hrs. Do you do anything to your blades as far as sharpening? Also is your 50D a standard or long stick?
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bobcat_ron
05-27-2010, 09:24 PM
You could sharpen them on a water grinder, it works as a last resort, I did my flail knives old school style and I got at least another 2 days of work before I chucked them all for new knives.

Gravel Rat
05-27-2010, 09:34 PM
It is odd they use castle nuts and roll pins on the bolts.

wanabe
05-27-2010, 11:10 PM
That looks just like a flail shredder knife. I remember everyone mowing corn stalks years ago with a mower that had knifes on it like that.

ioilyouin
05-28-2010, 12:10 AM
Today was a shortened day so I took my brother along to get him some seat time. He's 17 and really doesn't have much experience, so today was a good chance to lay waste to some brush. We were working on clearing a waterway with the exception of a few good walnuts.
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Me chasing down some branches in the water.
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My Brother
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ARP
05-28-2010, 12:18 AM
The teeth on my mower look pretty similar to what you see there. I have a few less chunks, but the edges are still dinged up a bit with about 150-200hrs on them. I do have the third thatch blade between the two flail blades, and those seem to have no damage to them. I'll try to get some photos of them next week when I hook the mower back up to the machine for some upcoming projects.

In terms of sharpening them, I'm still trying to figure out what I want to do. I'm thinking that I'm going to run them this way for 100-200 hrs more and then flip them around to use the other edge. I haven't heard from anyone whether sharpening them would be a good idea. I'm open to suggestions though:drinkup:

I have the long stick on my 50D.

Gravel Rat
05-28-2010, 01:21 AM
Today was a shortened day so I took my brother along to get him some seat time. He's 17 and really doesn't have much experience, so today was a good chance to lay waste to some brush. We were working on clearing a waterway with the exception of a few good walnuts.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN5275.jpg
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN5274.jpg
Me chasing down some branches in the water.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN5270.jpg
My Brother
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN5259.jpg

Tight operators cab not much knee room you wouldn't see Ron Dejong fit in there :laugh:

bobcat_ron
05-28-2010, 10:27 AM
I can see myself crying like a little girly man, that's a tight looking ROPS.

ioilyouin
05-28-2010, 08:13 PM
I sure hope I can swing a machine with a cab this fall. This is my second bout with poison ivy this year and I don't walk around in the brush.

KrayzKajun
05-28-2010, 08:53 PM
I sure hope I can swing a machine with a cab this fall. This is my second bout with poison ivy this year and I don't walk around in the brush.

i think you jus answered yur question! get the cab!

DirtMerchant
05-29-2010, 12:51 AM
You guys look like you belong of a golf course.

Ozz
05-29-2010, 01:22 PM
Geez, I don't think my skinny azz could fit in that ROPS. You thought about a sheet of plexi over the front? The gaurding you have right now looks almost comical(IMO), and t would improve your visibility by a lot.

Blue Goose
05-29-2010, 01:46 PM
You guys look like you belong of a golf course.

You're not implying.....:rolleyes:

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q310/centurycoronado/three_stooges_golf_with_your_friend.jpg

ioilyouin
05-31-2010, 10:38 PM
I finished the work for the farm on Saturday. I took some pics during lunch. Before I got off the field, they were already working it up for beans. Tomorrow I'll be back clearing roads again.
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wanabe
06-04-2010, 10:10 PM
When did you guys get a tandem axle oil truck? Seen it working in my area today and never realized that you had a truck that big.

ioilyouin
06-05-2010, 01:31 AM
Long ago, at least the 70's, we used to have three. Sadly due to the declining market we downsized to two in 2008. WE'll be in Pilot Knob on Monday and some more for the county later in the week. Hopefully I'll be able to get some pics and videos. I'll be in the black KW for a week or so, we're down a driver till at least the 15th.

ioilyouin
06-08-2010, 10:58 PM
Plans change around our shop hourly. I was supposed to be out ditchmowing for Wash. Co. and instead went out in dad's place to oil for Wash. Co.. I had my crappy camera with me so the photos are ok, but when I can plan it I'll take the camera to take some video.
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The county's chip box cannot accommodate this road in two passes so I have to make a narrow strip down one side and then cover the rest of the road on the next pass.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN5287.jpg
The chip box is very antiquated and only one of a few in operation in the area. I'm surprised OSHA has not had a field day with these things yet.

wanabe
06-08-2010, 11:47 PM
Great pics. Looks like just south of oakdale, IL?

ioilyouin
06-14-2010, 12:25 AM
Wannabe, correct again. If you guess where I'm at in these pictures I'll have to move you to stalker status.

Anyway, this was a job that my dad picked up quoting driveways for oil. The house was built at a fair elevation with plenty of room for a gradual drop. However the driveway was put in a draw with little to no drop at the back. I wasn't able to get any pics before but I did get some during and after we finished. We had to build up the drive around 8" at the house and feather out to the road. In addition we had to build up the yard backing to the drive to make sure that the water didn't pocket against the drive.
During
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After
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I thought I'd post a pic of the equipment down the road clearing off a lot.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/Equipment/DSCN5294.jpg

Ozz
06-14-2010, 12:55 AM
I thought I'd post a pic of the equipment down the road clearing off a lot.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/Equipment/DSCN5294.jpg

No offense to the mulcher guys, but tht's the way clearing should be done. No regrowth, and all the material can be removed easily. Nad all the guys who say track loaders suck, well, this is what they were made to do.

ioilyouin
06-14-2010, 07:38 AM
No offense to the mulcher guys, but tht's the way clearing should be done. No regrowth, and all the material can be removed easily. Nad all the guys who say track loaders suck, well, this is what they were made to do.

Agreed, if you are doing new construction. However mulchers wouldn't be manufactured if there wasn't a need for them in certain situations.

Junior M
06-14-2010, 09:04 AM
No offense to the mulcher guys, but tht's the way clearing should be done. No regrowth, and all the material can be removed easily. Nad all the guys who say track loaders suck, well, this is what they were made to do.
so your gonna go in and clear an entire ROW?

Ozz
06-14-2010, 02:26 PM
so your gonna go in and clear an entire ROW?


No, it won't keep up with a muclher crew doing ROW with one track loader. But, the logs will be saved, and you'll get a profit from them. ROW is really the only place where I believe mulchers shine. If I get to run a Cat 963D/ Deere 755D and then put you against me with a T300/299/TL250/450CT and mulcher, and we go head to head clearing an acre of forest, you would probably win clearing underbrush, but I would be able to go and skid the usable timber out, and grub the area. And I would finish the job before you.

Yes, mulchers have their place, but clearing for new development, farmland, ponds... is not one of them. The machines used are too limited for clearing, or any major dirt work.

Oh, and I was a bit drunk last night.

Gravel Rat
06-14-2010, 03:01 PM
Junior you should join one of the slashing crews that do ROW work for BC Hydro it is all done by hand with chainsaws and clearing saws along with the use of pesticides (industrial strength round up). One of the guys I know says at the start of the season says he could be 30lbs over weight and it is gone in 2 weeks.

Any brush clearing in the residential side of it rip it out with a excavator and make it so you can grow grass and use a lawnmower or a weed whacker to cut it.

I have been looking into a excavator with a brush head but as I said above why cut it when you can redevelop the area and eliminate the brush all together. Get rid of it once and your done with it I have tried everything to get rid of brush and it grows back every year.

We have the himalayan blackberry bushes like most places in the Pacific Northest www.invasiveplantcouncilbc.ca/invasive-plants-bc/invasive-plant-watch/himalayan-blackberry

You have to tear these out of the ground and burn them if you mulch them up they come back even stronger the next year. I have burned off large areas of blackberrys using cedar tree branches to keep moving a fire around. Next year they are back in the same d*mn spot again the only thing that gets rid of them is planting grass over the area.

Junior M
06-14-2010, 03:16 PM
No, it won't keep up with a muclher crew doing ROW with one track loader. But, the logs will be saved, and you'll get a profit from them. ROW is really the only place where I believe mulchers shine. If I get to run a Cat 963D/ Deere 755D and then put you against me with a T300/299/TL250/450CT and mulcher, and we go head to head clearing an acre of forest, you would probably win clearing underbrush, but I would be able to go and skid the usable timber out, and grub the area. And I would finish the job before you.

Yes, mulchers have their place, but clearing for new development, farmland, ponds... is not one of them. The machines used are too limited for clearing, or any major dirt work.

Oh, and I was a bit drunk last night.
then you cant compare them because they do two different jobs..

And GR, how do you think they do the swamps that ROWs cut through here? Either cut it by hand or use pesticides.

Ozz
06-14-2010, 04:24 PM
Any brush clearing in the residential side of it rip it out with a excavator and make it so you can grow grass and use a lawnmower or a weed whacker to cut it.


I thought you coudn't get an excavator near a house? And if you're so good with chainsaw, and own a 460, why don't you sign on and make some extra cash?

J, I wasn't meaning to sompare the two mthods/machines. I was just giving my opion on how I think clearing shoud be done.

hvy 1ton
06-14-2010, 04:26 PM
Last time i checked herbicide kills trees :laugh:

I agree with ozz about people mulching prior to excavation. I've seen it done before and will really confuse the contractor trying to dig the basement.

As far as ROW work, there is a company somewhere that specializes in resource recovery. They bunch, skid and chip the wood and truck it to co-generation plants.

Junior M
06-14-2010, 04:33 PM
Last time i checked herbicide kills trees :laugh:

I agree with ozz about people mulching prior to excavation. I've seen it done before and will really confuse the contractor trying to dig the basement.

As far as ROW work, there is a company somewhere that specializes in resource recovery. They bunch, skid and chip the wood and truck it to co-generation plants.
I knew that didnt sound right, but being that GR said it, I figured it had to be. ;) :laugh:

and there is a company that does that here, except for anyone and I am pretty sure they sell it to the paper or pulp mill

stuvecorp
06-14-2010, 07:51 PM
Oh, and I was a bit drunk last night.

Don't you have to be to run one? :confused: :p :waving: :)

Ozz
06-14-2010, 08:02 PM
Don't you have to be to run one? :confused: :p :waving: :)

Maybe to get you in one, but for me... All you have to say is "There's a xxx on site" and I ask where it is, and I sprint in that direction. And I run fast- I do a 6 minute mile.

stuvecorp
06-14-2010, 08:08 PM
Maybe to get you in one, but for me... All you have to say is "There's a xxx on site" and I ask where it is, and I sprint in that direction. And I run fast- I do a 6 minute mile.

Phew, I'm safe since I can run faster yet.:usflag:

Ozz
06-14-2010, 08:15 PM
Phew, I'm safe since I can run faster yet.:usflag:

Run, run and rn faster from Pennsylvania then. More TLs there than anywhere.

Blue Goose
06-14-2010, 08:21 PM
Phew, I'm safe since I can run faster yet.:usflag:

Forrest, is that you? :laugh:

Gravel Rat
06-14-2010, 09:06 PM
I thought you coudn't get an excavator near a house? And if you're so good with chainsaw, and own a 460, why don't you sign on and make some extra cash?

J, I wasn't meaning to sompare the two mthods/machines. I was just giving my opion on how I think clearing shoud be done.

Around the house is usually already cleared I mean the rest of the yard and as for me going slashing I do it on my own. It beats the p*ss out of your body especially if you have to walk a mile with a saw your gas and chain oil a pack sack that has your gallon jug of water, lunch and two rolls of azz wipe. Your also wearing a set of caulk boot (cork boots) for traction so you don't slip and fall. Also a rifle is brought along for protection from bears and cougars.

Pesticide is used to control the lighter vegitation there usually is a 100 foot wide swath that the high voltage transmission lines travel through. The power lines carry enough voltage it is instant death I don't remember the KVA is.

Some places slashers go your dropped off with a helicopter and it comes to pick you up 10 hours later.

Ozz
06-14-2010, 09:08 PM
and as for me going slashing I do it on my own. It beats the p*ss out of your body especially if you have to walk a mile with a saw your gas and chain oil a pack sack that has your gallon jug of water, lunch and two rolls of azz wipe. Your also wearing a set of caulk boot (cork boots) for traction so you don't slip and fall. Also a rifle is brought along for protection from bears and cougars.

You're a puss. I've done 100 mile backpacking trips with 40-50 pound packs. It's not that hard.

Gravel Rat
06-14-2010, 09:23 PM
You're a puss. I've done 100 mile backpacking trips with 40-50 pound packs. It's not that hard.

You pack your gear in and work 10 hours and pack your gear back out. You do ride a quad as far as you can go or like I said you ride a helicopter to get to the site. Some places you drive to a marina get into a crew boat go for a 30-60 minute boat ride then climb up the beach to the bush crummy drive another 20 minutes up a utility road to the power lines.

ioilyouin
06-15-2010, 11:45 PM
No pics today. I had to quit early today. Final score: Bees 20+ Thomas 3? This pretty well solidifies a cab machine this fall for me.

Ozz
06-16-2010, 01:04 AM
You pack your gear in and work 10 hours and pack your gear back out. You do ride a quad as far as you can go or like I said you ride a helicopter to get to the site. Some places you drive to a marina get into a crew boat go for a 30-60 minute boat ride then climb up the beach to the bush crummy drive another 20 minutes up a utility road to the power lines.

So? That's what I do a lot. I'l pack a 660 or 395 with full wrap, 32 inch bar on the saw, 42 inch on a pack, 3 chains for each, 6 5 pound wedges, the pack itself up 1:1 or steeper grades. You ride in on a skiff, then hike in. At least that's what I did along the river... Bottom line: You are a puss. If you can't work in the bush, don't male it seem so bad and turn other people off that want to do forestry. We will always need wood, so there will always be a forestry job. You make it seem bad and no one will want to do that line of work.
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Gravel Rat
06-16-2010, 01:28 AM
So? That's what I do a lot. I'l pack a 660 or 395 with full wrap, 32 inch bar on the saw, 42 inch on a pack, 3 chains for each, 6 5 pound wedges, the pack itself up 1:1 or steeper grades. You ride in on a skiff, then hike in. At least that's what I did along the river... Bottom line: You are a puss. If you can't work in the bush, don't male it seem so bad and turn other people off that want to do forestry. We will always need wood, so there will always be a forestry job. You make it seem bad and no one will want to do that line of work.
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I have friends that are fallers I was taught by them the money is good a faller makes 300-400 dollars a day they work 6 hours a day.

Falling on the West Coast

www.youtube.com/user/gypsy8844#p/u/2/N_M7F5zfVeY

www.youtube.com/user/gypsy8844#p/u/9/NJp6Jvc0kN0

Lets put it this way Ozz this isn't what you would see where you are from there is 90 tons worth of logs on the truck.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxTJ9NaVnxc

DirtMerchant
06-16-2010, 02:06 AM
GR you must be the most popular guy in the SSC

Ozz
06-16-2010, 11:42 AM
[QUOTE=Gravel Rat;3607111]I have friends that are fallers I was taught by them the money is good a faller makes 300-400 dollars a day they work 6 hours a day.

Falling on the West Coast

www.youtube.com/user/gypsy8844#p/u/2/N_M7F5zfVeY

www.youtube.com/user/gypsy8844#p/u/9/NJp6Jvc0kN0

Lets put it this way Ozz this isn't what you would see where you are from there is 90 tons worth of logs on the truck.

[QUOTE/]



Lets put it this way GR; I'm pretty sure some of the big hardowods we've got here compare to stuff in the PNW/B.C. I fell a Sycamore a couple weeks ago that was 124" at the base. I had to use an 880 running an 80" bar. I took several pines down that were over 200' and 60" at the base. There are lots of old growth Cheery, Oak and Maple that are the same size as an averge Douglas Fir out your way. I was taught by my dad. He was old skool and willing to do just about anything. I can do a swing cut,... Just about anything a PNW faller can do.

Junior M
06-16-2010, 12:45 PM
I have friends that are fallers I was taught by them the money is good a faller makes 300-400 dollars a day they work 6 hours a day.

Falling on the West Coast

www.youtube.com/user/gypsy8844#p/u/2/N_M7F5zfVeY

www.youtube.com/user/gypsy8844#p/u/9/NJp6Jvc0kN0

Lets put it this way Ozz this isn't what you would see where you are from there is 90 tons worth of logs on the truck.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxTJ9NaVnxc
Just because they taught you doesnt mean you really know what its like to do that work..



I love it when your proved wrong though. Because you come back trying to embarass the person. :laugh:

Gravel Rat
06-16-2010, 03:04 PM
Just because they taught you doesnt mean you really know what its like to do that work..



I love it when your proved wrong though. Because you come back trying to embarass the person. :laugh:

Junior you can't even use a chainsaw.

I started using chainsaws when I was 16 when I started in the firewood business the saw I started out with was a 051 Stihl with a 36 inch bar on it.

One logging contractor will log 30,000 cubic meters out of one cut block that is 800 loads of logs.

Do you even know what this Junior ?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iI-N6KzfFI

Junior M
06-16-2010, 04:44 PM
Junior you can't even use a chainsaw.

I started using chainsaws when I was 16 when I started in the firewood business the saw I started out with was a 051 Stihl with a 36 inch bar on it.

One logging contractor will log 30,000 cubic meters out of one cut block that is 800 loads of logs.

Do you even know what this Junior ?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iI-N6KzfFI
GR, I love it when somebody proves you wrong. You cant do a thing but insult them.

Btw, I can use a chainsaw, been around them most of my life. Started using them when I was 14.

Oh I forgot to mention, I been working for a tree company.

I start climbing next week. I've been climbing for close to a year but I've never actually rigged and worked a tree from a set of spurs.


And no I dont know what that is. But all the logging that goes on around here is shovel logging.. So why would I know what that is?

Ozz
06-16-2010, 05:44 PM
Junior you can't even use a chainsaw.

I started using chainsaws when I was 16 when I started in the firewood business the saw I started out with was a 051 Stihl with a 36 inch bar on it.

One logging contractor will log 30,000 cubic meters out of one cut block that is 800 loads of logs.

Do you even know what this Junior ?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iI-N6KzfFI

I could teach him just about anything he want to know... Unlike YOU. I'm pretty damn sure he can. And working with a tree guy, he know how to run a saw, but doesn't get the full logging experiance, which you don't have either.

Oh, and they rolled the logs off the truck to float them to a mill/dock, and if they're floated to a dock, they get trucked/barged to a mill.


Just admit someone has proved you wrong. I have, so you forget me and go after Jordan. It's pathetic.

Junior M
06-16-2010, 06:49 PM
I could teach him just about anything he want to know... Unlike YOU. I'm pretty damn sure he can. And working with a tree guy, he know how to run a saw, but doesn't get the full logging experiance, which you don't have either.

Oh, and they rolled the logs off the truck to float them to a mill/dock, and if they're floated to a dock, they get trucked/barged to a mill.


Just admit someone has proved you wrong. I have, so you forget me and go after Jordan. It's pathetic.
I get as much actual logging experience from residential tree work as GR does doing firewood..


But in my opinion, logging and a tree company each have there own dangers along with skill. A tree company needs alot more fine skills. Not only do you have to be able to drop a tree but you need to know how run a rope, tie knots, throw limbs and blocks of wood.. Where with logging, (I am not bashing logging, I am going into the logging industry if we dont get any where with the Bobcat) you can drop a tree and it not really matter where it falls or how, as long as it goes down and nobody gets hurt.. We cant do that, we could take out a tree that wants to be kept or even worse on a house.

Ozz
06-16-2010, 07:46 PM
I get as much actual logging experience from residential tree work as GR does doing firewood..


you can drop a tree and it not really matter where it falls or how, as long as it goes down and nobody gets hurt.. We cant do that, we could take out a tree that wants to be kept or even worse on a house.

Wrong. You have to at least try to not damage as much wood from the tree or any of the trees around it.

But, it's true. They are very different animals. As far as falling- It couldn't be more diferent other than the fact that you need to fall a tree in a specific place. I tired doing tree work in a residential area, and it's okay... But there's nothing like seeing a huge spruce go over, and getting the crash it make when it hits the ground. I don't like it as much as even utilites work, other than the fact I get to use my saws.


And, J, how do you guys log down there? Is it much different than the Swamp Loggers show? I've always just cut, making sure I get as many board feet out of every log possible, not damaging the wood falling it, limb it, buck it depending on the size, skid it out using my loader/ whatever's on site... Ususally my loader or a dozer, and cut it to lengths the mill want it at the log deck/landing.

Gravel Rat
06-16-2010, 07:52 PM
I have nothing against anybody here I have been in Juniors position working with a procrastinating father it is a real pain in the azz.

I hope Junior can make it in what ever he chooses he did make the right choice of getting out of that transmission shop.

Guys Juniors age are going to get screwed by the gov't the big Obama isn't improving things and the US economy isn't improving.

curtisfarmer
06-16-2010, 11:53 PM
Never heard of a pine tree growing over 200'. I believe the eastern white pine is the largest species this side of the mississippi and doesn't get above 125' or so. :drinkup:

Ozz
06-17-2010, 12:29 AM
Never heard of a pine tree growing over 200'. I believe the eastern white pine is the largest species this side of the mississippi and doesn't get above 125' or so. :drinkup:

Okay, maybe I was exagerating. But seriously, it was a big ass tree.:laugh:

Junior M
06-17-2010, 02:38 AM
Wrong. You have to at least try to not damage as much wood from the tree or any of the trees around it.

But, it's true. They are very different animals. As far as falling- It couldn't be more diferent other than the fact that you need to fall a tree in a specific place. I tired doing tree work in a residential area, and it's okay... But there's nothing like seeing a huge spruce go over, and getting the crash it make when it hits the ground. I don't like it as much as even utilites work, other than the fact I get to use my saws.


And, J, how do you guys log down there? Is it much different than the Swamp Loggers show? I've always just cut, making sure I get as many board feet out of every log possible, not damaging the wood falling it, limb it, buck it depending on the size, skid it out using my loader/ whatever's on site... Ususally my loader or a dozer, and cut it to lengths the mill want it at the log deck/landing.
I've got absolutely no logging experience so give me a break on that..

I've went in and just cut trees, its definetly alot more fun. I like it! The tree company occasionally gets a lot to clear and we'll go in and cut all the trees we can sell for timber, pulp or firewood first. thats a heck of a lot more fun than working around a house. Its kinda stressful. But both are fun imo. But I am going into the logging business before I go off on my own in excavation.


And we log just like swamp loggers..

except all the feller bunchers around here are basically real heavy front end loaders with stumpers on them. But thats because nothing that swampy is logged around here. Oh yeah, and nobody is as big of a production company as Goodson Loggings so no shovels or clambunks are used..

Basically this is the typically logging outfit.
1 Prentice Loader(trailer mounted) with a hydraulic saw for bucking
1-2 skidders of various brands (Alot of CAT and JD)
1 wheeled Feller buncher (one crew of one certain race that runs some raggedy equipment uses a 1080 Bobcat skidsteer with a shear)

Then the trucking is either subbed or done by the company itself. The number of trucks is hard to tell, nobody letters there trucks.

Then the method is just like Bobby Goodsons, except the feller buncher kinda plays double duty stacking piles(like a shovel) as much as possible to save the skidders work.

then your skidding comes into play and no companys as big as Bobby, so one operator plays double duty between skidding or felling and loading trucks. Usually the felling is done so that operator goes to the loader. and then there are dedicated operators for the skidder(s) So thats 3 guys right there and usually one or 2 guys on the deck limbing and doing little BS.

Ozz
06-17-2010, 02:41 PM
Cool. My gig isn't that big. I do contract falling and general logging. I wouldn't go after any tracts the size of the guys down south, it's just to big for 2 guys, 2 saws and a track loader as a skidder. I have to admit, Ive been looking at some used JD 540s with low hours... If I could get a deal Id jump on it.
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Junior M
06-17-2010, 02:56 PM
Cool. My gig isn't that big. I do contract falling and general logging. I wouldn't go after any tracts the size of the guys down south, it's just to big for 2 guys, 2 saws and a track loader as a skidder. I have to admit, Ive been looking at some used JD 540s with low hours... If I could get a deal Id jump on it.
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They log anything from a halfacre to a hundreds here.. Theres a place like 15min from my place this a clear cut almost as far as you can see from that point.


the 540, thats a winch skidder isnt it? I'd like to get into logging but right now theres no money in it. And you gotta have big money to get into it.. Atleast to make a living. I wouldnt mind a small set up like you got.

Ozz
06-17-2010, 06:18 PM
They log anything from a halfacre to a hundreds here.. Theres a place like 15min from my place this a clear cut almost as far as you can see from that point.


the 540, thats a winch skidder isnt it? I'd like to get into logging but right now theres no money in it.And you gotta have big money to get into it.. Atleast to make a living. I wouldnt mind a small set up like you got.

Yah. Chokers are what I'm used to, and I'm not going to get used to a grapple rightnow and lose porduction with the economy right now.

"The best way wto make a small fortune in the forest industry is to start with a large one."- Multiple guys with bigger outfits than me.


A lot of people have a 50-60 horse tractor with a loader and use a Fangaurd or Farmi winch. They're PTO driven, and are REALLY useful. They're just a bit pricey. But, 50-60 horse tractors can be found for cheap.


The small setup I've got... Is great. I pull bigger turns than a tractor with my loader, they just take longer. I usually will take my buddy Thomas, and we'll go and fall for a day and get double what I skid in a day, so he has enough space to breathe when he falls the rest to not be in a hurry and damage wood and when I move the loader on site, I can start skidding immediatley.

Junior M
06-17-2010, 07:06 PM
Yah. Chokers are what I'm used to, and I'm not going to get used to a grapple rightnow and lose porduction with the economy right now.

"The best way wto make a small fortune in the forest industry is to start with a large one."- Multiple guys with bigger outfits than me.


A lot of people have a 50-60 horse tractor with a loader and use a Fangaurd or Farmi winch. They're PTO driven, and are REALLY useful. They're just a bit pricey. But, 50-60 horse tractors can be found for cheap.


The small setup I've got... Is great. I pull bigger turns than a tractor with my loader, they just take longer. I usually will take my buddy Thomas, and we'll go and fall for a day and get double what I skid in a day, so he has enough space to breathe when he falls the rest to not be in a hurry and damage wood and when I move the loader on site, I can start skidding immediatley.
I think a grapple is much more productive, atleast it is here but you probably cut in alot worse terrain where you cant get right to the wood.

But like you said you gotta get used to it which takes time. Plus its kind of an aquired skill that takes some thought so your not making alot of useless turns.



I've seen those winches before. Nedly has one on his Kioti. I'd love to have it to be able to get a niche in small selective logging jobs for homeowners and hunt clubs.

Selective logging is a joke here. Before our hunt club was a hunt club the owner had it selectively logged. That was a joke! He cut down all but like 5 trees in 20some acres. And he beat the hell of them in the process..

Ozz
06-17-2010, 07:53 PM
I think a grapple is much more productive, atleast it is here but you probably cut in alot worse terrain where you cant get right to the wood.

But like you said you gotta get used to it which takes time. Plus its kind of an aquired skill that takes some thought so your not making alot of useless turns.



Yes... It is. As I said in my job thread, I cut a lot of places like that, but where I can tow my loader. But I could log with a highline with a winch skidder. It's atually very simple, but very few people do it. You string out a skyline between 2 spar trees, buy/make a car that has a decent size winch on it, run that on the skyline, and sue the skidder to pull that along the line. Pretty cool, but you have to have a big enough drum on the skidder to pull the length of the entire skyline.

Junior M
06-17-2010, 10:27 PM
So you skid with your trackloader.. And you use chokers. How do you set your turns? Dont tell me you get off the machine and do it. Thats gotta take a long time..

Ozz
06-18-2010, 12:36 AM
So you skid with your trackloader.. And you use chokers. How do you set your turns? Dont tell me you get off the machine and do it. Thats gotta take a long time..

Yes, I do. I have a small winch on the back, not enough to yank a machine out of a hole, but with enough braking power to not unreel when I drag logs behind it. It takes me 20 seconds max to set a choker, and considering I run about 4 off the back it take me a max of a minute twenty sec to set. Usuall it's faster. It all depnds how the tree's felled.

ioilyouin
06-22-2010, 06:54 AM
We're finaly starting to get busy oiling roads, so I get to take some video from my truck. The first video is a view inside the cab, the key is to watch the passenger mirrors since thats the only real action. You also get a couple of minutes looking at my melon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9mdzy4Lkjs

DirtMerchant
06-22-2010, 03:45 PM
lol @ guys on the east coast talking about "larger" turns.

Junior M
06-22-2010, 09:36 PM
lol @ guys on the east coast talking about "larger" turns.
we cant help our land was logged hundreds of years before you.

DirtMerchant
06-22-2010, 10:15 PM
we cant help our land was logged hundreds of years before you.

Our trees grow way larger in 30+ years then yours. Mild winters+rain.

Junior M
06-22-2010, 10:18 PM
Our trees grow way larger in 30+ years then yours. Mild winters+rain.
I dont know about anywhere else, but it seems our logging is alot less regulated here. The most regulated thing is mills and thats only because people are worried about who is screwing who and whose getting more money..

Jelinek61
06-22-2010, 10:33 PM
just subscribing, nice equipment....

curtisfarmer
06-23-2010, 08:49 AM
Larger turns??? Our trees harvested are just as big as yours out there. Don't you guys ahve a 24"+/- maximum limit? Our Eastern White Pine is regularly larger than that....and then some. Your "ideal" conditions must also be what instills the drama on the landings that we don't seem to have:laugh: Old growth, yes, regular harvestable wood...no.

Junior M
06-23-2010, 09:01 AM
yall do know when I said turns, I was talking about with a grapple skidder? None of this complicated crap yall do with ropes and pulleys and motors and hooks and string and yarn and whatever else you can put up in the sky.


:laugh:

bobcat_ron
06-23-2010, 10:02 AM
None of this complicated crap yall do with ropes and pulleys and motors and hooks and string and yarn and whatever else you can put up in the sky.


:laugh:

Yupper, that's what we call them, the string and yarn line system, really effective since the heavier turns but more stress on the mainlines, so we start using yarn now, very cost effective too, a ball of yarn goes for about 3 bucks for 400 feet, so we send the hook tenders to the arts and craft stores in town and tell them to fetch a couple balls of assorted colors (of course) and some back up sewing thread just in case.
Our loggers here prefer the hot pink yarn comprised of alpaca, very soft and easy to see.

curtisfarmer
06-23-2010, 11:59 AM
I would suggest a yarn spun of ball bag and chest hair. Cost effective, high tensile strength, and readily available. Why bother going to the arts and crafts store:laugh:

wanabe
06-23-2010, 11:11 PM
I seen this truck today, its one nice oil truck! Too nice of a truck to get oil all over it!

ioilyouin
06-23-2010, 11:20 PM
where at? Dad was by Beaucoup and I was by Addieville.

wanabe
06-24-2010, 06:47 PM
where at? Dad was by Beaucoup and I was by Addieville.


Turning off IL 161 north at the street that runs along Hugo's field and runs back to your plant.

ioilyouin
06-24-2010, 11:15 PM
50/50 Sterling or International? I PM'd you also.

wanabe
06-26-2010, 12:02 AM
50/50 Sterling or International? I PM'd you also.


International, you may have been driving it?

ioilyouin
06-26-2010, 12:46 AM
Like this one? I'm pretty proud of it!
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/Equipment/DSCN2827.jpg

wanabe
06-26-2010, 12:51 AM
Like this one? I'm pretty proud of it!
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/Equipment/DSCN2827.jpg


Yep thats it! What model is it? The hood looks different from all the mixers where my dad works.

ioilyouin
06-26-2010, 12:53 AM
'08 Workstar 7400

ioilyouin
06-27-2010, 09:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKiLsdwPAJ4

Hang on for a wild ride on the oil spreader!

stuvecorp
06-28-2010, 12:52 AM
That Workstar is sweet. :usflag:

ioilyouin
06-28-2010, 10:00 PM
That Workstar is sweet. :usflag:

Thank you. It's a Hendrickson air ride designed for top-heavy loads, 46K rears and 16K front. The ride is so much nicer than any other tandem we've ever owned. It's got a 9 speed with deep reduction and the renamed DT-466. It's a little underpowered but I rarely run loaded so power isn't so important. I only wish it had an auxillary audio port and that I had spec'ed it with a jake brake.

ioilyouin
06-29-2010, 10:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIycb-rw-uI

A timelapse of about 6 hours in our JD 324H loader, roading to jobsite, a view of the township's 112f? grader, loading trucks, stockpiling, and roading back to the shop.

93turbo
06-29-2010, 10:20 PM
that was too fast to see anything worthwhile

wanabe
06-29-2010, 10:36 PM
Are you oiling the road by my place in DuBois twsp wednesday?

ioilyouin
06-30-2010, 07:41 AM
Are you oiling the road by my place in DuBois twsp wednesday?

Pops is, I'll be over by Johannisburg School of Coal Mine Technology.

ioilyouin
06-30-2010, 09:17 PM
Just a couple of pics from the road today. These should be a gimmie Wannabe.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/DSCN5401.jpg
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/DSCN5400.jpg

Duct tape fix of the day.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/DSCN5402.jpg

wanabe
06-30-2010, 10:08 PM
The 695 Ft. Stack! That place is huge!

Krafty
07-01-2010, 08:07 AM
Ill bite. I don't get over that way too too much anymore but is that the new power plant that is going in over there?

ioilyouin
07-01-2010, 05:16 PM
Yes, Prarie State Energy is the name I believe. I think that the stack was poured in one continuous pour. I have no way to veryify, but I was told it's the biggest construction project going right now. Ridiculous amount of $$$, rail siding, new roads, transmission towers, coal mine, power plant and on and on.

wanabe
07-01-2010, 06:05 PM
Yes, Prarie State Energy is the name I believe. I think that the stack was poured in one continuous pour. I have no way to veryify, but I was told it's the biggest construction project going right now. Ridiculous amount of $$$, rail siding, new roads, transmission towers, coal mine, power plant and on and on.


Nope, it was not a continous pour. It was done in several, and they had a slip form the slid up the stack and narrowed down the higher they went.

Krafty
07-01-2010, 10:49 PM
Ya that is pretty neat I have heard alot about how big the project is. I have a few fraternity buddies that live up that way.

wanabe
07-02-2010, 12:02 AM
Ya that is pretty neat I have heard alot about how big the project is. I have a few fraternity buddies that live up that way.

This project is way over big. I think its a 4 billion $ project. New highways were built to this place, trafic lights put in, new rail road spur line thats about 4-5 miles long, new coal mine, new power plant, new disposal plant equiped with a rotary rr car dumper, ect. Peabody must have deep pockets!

ioilyouin
07-09-2010, 06:07 PM
Been very busy, got a brush job for a retired doctor in the metro east and am working him in when I can. He's got a a 2000' lane road, in addition three seperate ponds and some timberlines to cut.
Looking South
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN5403.jpg
Getting started looking North
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN5405.jpg
Looking North, packing it up for the day.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN5406.jpg

I was going to work there today, but I discoverd a crack in one of the ears so that was my priority for the day.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/DSCN5408.jpg
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/DSCN5409.jpg

Krafty
07-09-2010, 07:13 PM
Bummer about the crack! But dang that road looks great all cleaned up!!

ioilyouin
07-19-2010, 06:21 PM
Been busy oiling roads and whatnot. Finished up the road to the Doctor's house and will hopefully start on the next section soon. After I repaired the crack in the ear, I ran about five hours and the other side of the same ear seperated. Got that repaired too and have been going fine ever since.
Looking South
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN5410.jpg
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN5411.jpg

Blue Goose
07-19-2010, 06:26 PM
Hey Thomas, I just noticed that Model T truck in your signature. Since this is your picture thread, how about some pictures? Also, are you active in the St. Louis Model T club?

ioilyouin
07-19-2010, 06:32 PM
Yes, I usually shed it in the bucket of my loader...from the same list.

Gravel Rat
07-19-2010, 07:04 PM
The doctor must have lots of money to own lots of nice acreage like that, it looks nice and quiet.

ARP
07-19-2010, 11:57 PM
Hahaha- I was wondering when someone was going to notice your "fleet" of listed equipment in your signature :laugh::laugh: The weiner mobile as a crew truck is my favorite next to the Letourneau loader :laugh:

Seriously though, that bank in the last pic looks beautiful! Nice work!

ioilyouin
07-22-2010, 01:25 AM
I'm shut down with the mini for repairs, but we're busy oiling roads anyway. We're repairing a hyd leak that came with the machine, at the input shaft . My mechanic gave me a list of things to order prior to teardown so we wouldn't be down long...when he got into it he noted that the main coupler was cracked in two places so I've been waiting for this part to arrive, 4 days past due. Today he called to let me know that he found that all four engine mounts were broken...wait some more. I never noticed that the engine had any amount of play in it, we only noted that the exhaust shook quite a bit. Why this mini was such a good deal may be coming to light, we'll see. Any good explanations as to why all four are broken?

Gravel Rat
07-22-2010, 01:45 AM
I'm shut down with the mini for repairs, but we're busy oiling roads anyway. We're repairing a hyd leak that came with the machine, at the input shaft . My mechanic gave me a list of things to order prior to teardown so we wouldn't be down long...when he got into it he noted that the main coupler was cracked in two places so I've been waiting for this part to arrive, 4 days past due. Today he called to let me know that he found that all four engine mounts were broken...wait some more. I never noticed that the engine had any amount of play in it, we only noted that the exhaust shook quite a bit. Why this mini was such a good deal may be coming to light, we'll see. Any good explanations as to why all four are broken?

I'am surprised that you have that many problems Kubota is known to be a good problem free machine.

Not sure why all 4 engine mounts would be broken is there any stress cracks anywhere else. Maybe the house is twisting, with the motor mounted on 4 points as the machine twists it is pulling on the motor mounts.

stuvecorp
07-22-2010, 02:03 AM
I'm shut down with the mini for repairs, but we're busy oiling roads anyway. We're repairing a hyd leak that came with the machine, at the input shaft . My mechanic gave me a list of things to order prior to teardown so we wouldn't be down long...when he got into it he noted that the main coupler was cracked in two places so I've been waiting for this part to arrive, 4 days past due. Today he called to let me know that he found that all four engine mounts were broken...wait some more. I never noticed that the engine had any amount of play in it, we only noted that the exhaust shook quite a bit. Why this mini was such a good deal may be coming to light, we'll see. Any good explanations as to why all four are broken?

Sucks to hear about the brake downs.

ioilyouin
08-10-2010, 05:08 PM
I finally took some better videos of our oil spreading work. (in my opinion) I've only got one loaded now but will add more soon. These are of my dad and I working together on the streets of Breese, IL. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzgfXbK1M6c

ioilyouin
08-15-2010, 07:49 PM
I made it back over to the good doctor's on Saturday for some more clearing. I packed the Big Red along since I was getting farther away from truck, so that I didn't have to walk out the excavator for lunch/fuel/etc.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/Equipment/DSCN5421.jpg

I trimmed the middle dam and the lower pond.
A view from the middle pond dam looking down the lower pond and boat house.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN5422.jpg

Access road between the two ponds.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN5427.jpg

The lower pond.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN5426.jpg

The lower pond overflow/turnaround after some cleaning.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN5425.jpg

bobcat_ron
08-15-2010, 09:03 PM
Those old trikes are legendary, all those deaths and accidents from the good old days.

ioilyouin
08-15-2010, 09:10 PM
I didn't realize that my oiliing link was the wrong one. This video is probably the most interesting, with me doing some fancy driving in a cul de sac. Comments are welcome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_mHc7hGRKA

Gravel Rat
08-15-2010, 09:22 PM
It has been a while since I seen a 3 wheeler they used to be common as mud around here everybody had one. Now you have big quads they weigh half a ton.

ksss
08-15-2010, 09:23 PM
Breaking all four motor mounts is odd. Hopefully its not a sign of more severe problems.

93turbo
08-15-2010, 11:28 PM
So how do you get the big red out to where your working? I have a little youth dirtbike I sometimes slip a strap around and carry it out with me so I can run back for tools parts or truck comes in handy

ioilyouin
08-15-2010, 11:31 PM
It's an '83 chain drive with NO suspension or reverse. I've never wrecked it but I've seen at least two people do so.

I hop the front tire over the blade and then lift the blade, wedging the tire against the counterweight. It rides nice and tight.

wanabe
08-16-2010, 11:20 PM
So were you or you dad working in n ville today? I seen your truck sitting in tuckerville this morning I think.

ioilyouin
08-17-2010, 12:02 AM
So were you or you dad working in n ville today? I seen your truck sitting in tuckerville this morning I think.

Dad was working for the town and township. That was me at Tuckerville for Ashley township.

Gravel Rat
08-17-2010, 01:39 AM
Did you ever find out why all 4 motor mounts failed on the Kubota ?

I'am curious because Kubota is known for good reliabitly I know a few mini excavators that have been flawless.

Krafty
08-18-2010, 08:20 AM
Hahaha a ski can for you pic that cracks me up judging by that you are a clinton county guy?? I have a few friends over there that are obbssed with the stuff. By the way I really like the three wheeler idea!

Bleed Green
08-18-2010, 10:46 AM
I love ski. They bottle it here in E-ville.

ioilyouin
08-18-2010, 11:15 PM
Krafty & Bleed Green: Ski is my coffee.

By some fortune/misfortune the Gods have seen fit to allow me to mow the rest of the week. So Today I headed back to the good doctor's place.

MY travel rig.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/Equipment/DSCN5428.jpg

Another turn around on a different pond. Before/After
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN5429.jpg
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN5430.jpg

The doctor only wanted the brush off of the dam. I don't think a picture can accurately portray the slope on this dam. I don't know if I was lucky or good, but I'm off in one piece. Before/After
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN5431.jpg
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/DSCN5432.jpg

Back at it tomorrow.

Krafty
08-18-2010, 11:21 PM
Looking good that Doc sure is keeping you busy!

ioilyouin
08-18-2010, 11:26 PM
Duck hunters are good to work for...lots of cash.

Dirtman2007
08-18-2010, 11:29 PM
I am so taking my 4 wheeler to work tomorrow. I'm tired of walking so many miles a day. Not hard when the jobsite is a mile long though:dizzy:

Junior M
08-18-2010, 11:30 PM
Duck hunters are good to work for...lots of cash.
damn right, duck hunting is expensive, look at the price of boats, calls, waders, decoys, hell even the dog!

Krafty
08-18-2010, 11:48 PM
Duck hunters are good to work for...lots of cash.

Easy now I am living proof that there are plenty of poor duck hunters as well.

ioilyouin
08-18-2010, 11:59 PM
Yeah, I know that there are plenty of hunters out there on a shoestring budget. But you also aren't picking up the phone to see how quick I can get out there. Money really isn't an object for some of these guys, and then to throw away their kills and not even eat them. Nuts! they're Nuts!

Krafty
08-19-2010, 08:37 AM
That always bugs the crap out of me I have a few friends that do taht. If you shoot it eat it, donate it, give it away, do something with it don't just let it go to waste. I always love thoese customers that call last minute and want something done first thing the next morning.

Junior M
08-19-2010, 06:05 PM
That always bugs the crap out of me I have a few friends that do taht. If you shoot it eat it, donate it, give it away, do something with it don't just let it go to waste. I always love thoese customers that call last minute and want something done first thing the next morning.
I hate when I shoot something and I cant find it.. Happens alot on the river cause you got multiple birds and the current catches them before you can.

I shot a couple last year that I wounded and I found them downriver but as soon as I got up on them, they dove down and never seen them again. :cry:

Krafty
08-19-2010, 11:31 PM
I hate when I shoot something and I cant find it.. Happens alot on the river cause you got multiple birds and the current catches them before you can.

I shot a couple last year that I wounded and I found them downriver but as soon as I got up on them, they dove down and never seen them again. :cry:

We call them sinkers little bastards piss me off.

ioilyouin are you a hunter??

ioilyouin
08-20-2010, 12:42 AM
no waterfowl for me, but I'm game for anything else. I don't bowhunt and my cousin decided to get married this year on opening gun weekend.:hammerhead:

ioilyouin
09-23-2010, 07:42 AM
I've been super busy oiling roads, so no time for pics or video. However I did run across this rig the other day and just happened to have my camera with. I've never seen anything like it and am just wondering if anyone has a good explanation.

http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/Equipment/DSCN5749.jpg
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/Equipment/DSCN5750.jpg

I assume this has an oilfield/pipeline role, but what I don't know.

wanabe
09-23-2010, 10:26 AM
Never seen that before. Looks like it started life as a hoe and got a complete make over. You make it to Kohls and put down a coat yet? Dad was hauling alot of rock in there for them this week.

hvy 1ton
09-23-2010, 03:54 PM
I have no idea what it's used for specially, but that is a jetter like on sewer-vac trucks. My guess is they used it to clean agricultural drainage tile.

Dirtman2007
09-23-2010, 06:46 PM
I see Junior strapped it down!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jelinek61
09-24-2010, 06:29 PM
I have no idea what it's used for specially, but that is a jetter like on sewer-vac trucks. My guess is they used it to clean agricultural drainage tile.

Could be for drain tile. But the hose looks to short to do any length of tile efficiently. If you look just behind the reel there are bags of something shrink wrapped. Maybe like drilling mud or grout.

ioilyouin
10-29-2010, 05:22 PM
Finally here!
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/Equipment/DSCN5436.jpg
Too bad I didn't realize the smudge on the lens, no retakes here.

Ozz
10-29-2010, 05:29 PM
Did you trade out the Kubota for the 50?

ioilyouin
10-29-2010, 05:31 PM
yes. I snapped that before it was hauled off.

Jelinek61
10-29-2010, 08:11 PM
That smudge is just the Bobcat eclipsing the Kubota. haha

coopers
10-29-2010, 08:13 PM
Poor Kubota.

minimax
10-29-2010, 08:50 PM
Is there a bucket on the bobcat in the pic it is like half the of the kubota's bucket?

minimax

ioilyouin
10-30-2010, 03:19 AM
Is there a bucket on the bobcat in the pic it is like half the of the kubota's bucket?

minimax

The Kubota has a 2' GP bucket, the Bobcat has a 52" ditching bucket on.

riverwalklandscaping
10-30-2010, 03:52 PM
that would a tracked flux capacitor for those who are wondering

Bobcat'nSTL
10-30-2010, 05:16 PM
Finally here!
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/Equipment/DSCN5436.jpg
Too bad I didn't realize the smudge on the lens, no retakes here.

So when can I come over and try it out lol

ioilyouin
10-31-2010, 03:31 PM
Just call ahead.

ioilyouin
11-05-2010, 09:07 PM
It finally cooled off too much to oil roads, so I got to break in the E50 today. What can I say...it's hard to believe I put up with the Kubota as long as I did. I didn't have to cycle the auxillary to extend the arm, I can walk and cut at the same time, I don't have to wear earplugs, I didn't need coveralls and I wasn't dusty when I was done. I was really impressed with how well the Bobcat spun the mower, I maybe stalled it twice. I was all smiles to say the least.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/Equipment/DSCN5442.jpg
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/Equipment/DSCN5447.jpg
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/Equipment/DSCN5444.jpg

Ozz
11-05-2010, 10:49 PM
Awesome machine, dude. I hope it serves you well.

minimax
11-06-2010, 02:39 AM
How tall is that machine on the trailer.And why did you take off the thumb?


minimax

ioilyouin
11-06-2010, 09:06 AM
Thanks OZZ

Minimax, if I stand the stick up I'm over 14' but in that picture I'm just over
12'. For the time being I took the thumb off until I do some type of directional valve or add secondary hyd. I didn't want the extra hoses flopping around or the cylinder falling, on a side note the EX30 doesn't offer a thumb backer so I don't know how I could use the thumb there anyway.

minimax
11-06-2010, 02:14 PM
I do not use my with my mower with the thumb but do not take off the thumb,have a "t" with a ball valve and the thumb hard piped so it is aways hooked up.
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minimax

ARP
11-06-2010, 10:45 PM
X2 to what Minimax said.

That's actually the way I piped my company's 50D. I even used that same picture from minimax to set things up. (Thanks again Minimax:drinkup:).

stuvecorp
11-06-2010, 11:00 PM
I bet having the cab is sweet, extended your season? :)

riverwalklandscaping
11-07-2010, 10:23 AM
Enclosed machines are def the way to go for any kind of mowing .. I got the most miserable like rash all over from mowing with an open skid steer and it was dry and dusty out and whatever I was cutting got EVERYWHERE haha

ioilyouin
11-22-2010, 08:31 PM
I started my seasonal mowing today, probably going to working around Washingotn County for close to a month off and on. Starting off working for the county highway department on backslopes and behind guardrails. My only picture was a parting shot today.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/Equipment/DSCN5451.jpg

On my way to work this morning I was able to get some pics of this rig set up for the CSX Railroad. Any thought as to a price range?
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/Equipment/DSCN5448.jpg
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/Equipment/DSCN5450.jpg
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/Equipment/DSCN5449.jpg

bobcat_ron
11-22-2010, 08:38 PM
That's a $300,000 complete package right there, and they should have used a rubber wheeled unit instead.

Gravel Rat
11-22-2010, 08:49 PM
I didn't get time to snap some pictures of a contractor working in the area with two brush mowers on fullsize 16 ton excavators. Both converted into a forestry machine really strange seeing a Forestry cab and single bar grouser tracks on a 16 ton excavator.

tailboardtech
11-23-2010, 12:12 AM
ha ha this is funny i just waited for that deeres twin this morning on the way to work it was one of them and a service truck going down the tracks heading for Baltimore

stuvecorp
11-23-2010, 01:10 AM
That Deere is wicked, wonder how big of stuff it could chew up?

Sounds cool you have that much mowing to do. It makes great use of this time of year. I'd love to figure out how to market this type of service and put the TK to use.

ioilyouin
11-23-2010, 08:05 AM
Stuve- My particular favorite is the screen/bulletproof glass in front. That would be nice and pricey.
My customer base by popularity is 1-Township/County 2- Elderly 3-Farmers
4-Hunters 5- Other Contractors. I've really got a leg up with the municipal guys since we've been working with some of them for 30+ years and know pretty much all of them in a three county radius. The farmers just see me working along the road and come wandering up, common sense is easily trumped by nosiness.

prodirtinc
11-23-2010, 10:34 AM
just curious but what was the reason for going with the Bobcat?

Giles_uk
11-23-2010, 12:09 PM
i like that setup, do you keep the arm still and tract back oand forth on the banks or sit there and mow in circles using the slew motor?

they are a rare sightover here as every farmer has a flail arm mower on his tractor and the councils and highways have unimogs with them, so they do all the hedge cutting and verge work. then they have slope tractors for steep embankments we get a few flails mounted on 13ton+ for forestry etc.

slope tractor
http://www.allswisstractors.com/photos/TT270/steep.jpg

what they cut hedges with over here

http://www.shorts-group.co.uk/img/news/hedge-cutter-01.jpg

ioilyouin
11-23-2010, 10:54 PM
just curious but what was the reason for going with the Bobcat?
Bobcat was not the cheapest, but they came the closest to the low quote. I liked the Deere 50 but there was/is a waiting list, I didn't like the bifold door, and I have had bad experiences with the local dealer. Kubota did not offer a skylight (point to be argued). Komatsu never responded to me. Cat was too expensive and heavy for the class. I demoed an E-35 Bobcat and really liked it, they were also one of the few who offered a lockable auxiliary switch. If Bobcat had not stepped up performance numbers from previous models, I would have went elsewhere.

ioilyouin
11-23-2010, 11:06 PM
i like that setup, do you keep the arm still and tract back oand forth on the banks or sit there and mow in circles using the slew motor?

they are a rare sightover here as every farmer has a flail arm mower on his tractor and the councils and highways have unimogs with them, so they do all the hedge cutting and verge work. then they have slope tractors for steep embankments we get a few flails mounted on 13ton+ for forestry etc.

slope tractor
http://www.allswisstractors.com/photos/TT270/steep.jpg

what they cut hedges with over here

http://www.shorts-group.co.uk/img/news/hedge-cutter-01.jpg

I can mow using the drives, but prefer to go in circles all day. Most of the ground that I'm working on is too uneven for my comfort to try and hold it steady. A few of the municipalities have tractor mounted boom mowers, but they all use spinner/bushhog/rotary style mowers. :hammerhead: Part of my appeal is that I'm going places that they cannot go, i.e. narrow passes, soft areas, steeper slopes, and let's not forget thorns. I can't speak for everywhere stateside, but I've never seen a slope mower in person in my region. Could you translate Verge Work to American English?

wanabe
11-23-2010, 11:08 PM
Where you working in Wash. Co?

ioilyouin
11-23-2010, 11:23 PM
Tomorrow Co. Hwy. 27 Covington South and Co. Hwy. 13 Okawville Blacktop. Next week in the Dubois, Radom, Posen corridor.

stuvecorp
11-24-2010, 12:40 AM
Stuve- My particular favorite is the screen/bulletproof glass in front. That would be nice and pricey.
My customer base by popularity is 1-Township/County 2- Elderly 3-Farmers
4-Hunters 5- Other Contractors. I've really got a leg up with the municipal guys since we've been working with some of them for 30+ years and know pretty much all of them in a three county radius. The farmers just see me working along the road and come wandering up, common sense is easily trumped by nosiness.

Yeah, that is a big leg up knowing those guys as it gets you out there so people see you doing it and then it snowballs from there. I've asked a couple people here and they just look at me like I'm crazy.

Giles_uk
11-24-2010, 04:43 AM
the limit beyond which something happens or changes; "on the verge of tears"; "on the brink of bankruptcy"

haha so in this case where asphalt becomes grass

verge is the bit by the side of the road or the embankment used to stop road noise pollution

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/132/322445137_51cde82cac.jpg

found a whole page about them haha http://hedgerowmobile.com/motorwayverges.html

ioilyouin
11-24-2010, 08:32 AM
From one of the pictures in that link I would call the "verge" a shoulder. I do see where the word is comming from though. Thanks for the visual aid. It reminds me of a similar word, Taint. :laugh:

Krafty
11-24-2010, 12:54 PM
From one of the pictures in that link I would call the "verge" a shoulder. I do see where the word is comming from though. Thanks for the visual aid. It reminds me of a similar word, Taint. :laugh:

Hahaha when I was growing up taint had nothing to do with the grass on the side of the road.

Junior M
11-24-2010, 08:21 PM
Hahaha when I was growing up taint had nothing to do with the grass on the side of the road.
I thought the samething. :laugh: :laugh:

ioilyouin
12-22-2010, 08:15 PM
Got a droid2 today. This is just a test message.
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ioilyouin
12-28-2010, 01:32 PM
Well between the holidays, sickness, sick kids, repairs, other obligations, weather and everything else I haven't been getting a whole lot done. I worked a partial day Monday and can't get back until Thursday. I'm also skipping out on some deer hunting days in spite of the fact that my freezer is empty. Anyway, Wannabe may be able to identify some of these locations. I've got a decent amount of work to do...if everyone will just leave me alone.:dizzy:

http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/57033016_photobucket_1330_.jpg
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/57033016_photobucket_1331_.jpg

wanabe
12-28-2010, 09:12 PM
Well between the holidays, sickness, sick kids, repairs, other obligations, weather and everything else I haven't been getting a whole lot done. I worked a partial day Monday and can't get back until Thursday. I'm also skipping out on some deer hunting days in spite of the fact that my freezer is empty. Anyway, Wannabe may be able to identify some of these locations. I've got a decent amount of work to do...if everyone will just leave me alone.:dizzy:

http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/57033016_photobucket_1330_.jpg
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/ioilyouin/work/57033016_photobucket_1331_.jpg

Dang you got me on this one. Where or what road was this on? Not much been going on here either. Been trying to get a 60,000 bu corn contract filled and all the holiday partys+the bad wether= getting nothing done fast LOL!

curtisfarmer
12-28-2010, 10:17 PM
Is that a new mower? Machine looks great:weightlifter:

Ozz
12-28-2010, 10:21 PM
I know what you mean by nothing getting done. I've gotten zip done since the 22nd, and it looks like I won't be working for a while, despite the beautiful 60 degreee weather forecasted later this week. That means everything melts and the ground gets squishy. My track loaders and excavator don't like squishy.

Gravel Rat
12-28-2010, 10:38 PM
The Bobcat E50 is a nice looking machine.

ioilyouin
12-29-2010, 12:42 AM
Wannabe, I'm East of 51 in Ashley Twp, but soon I'll be South and the Southwest of town.

Curtisfarmer, same EX30 as before. Same tool, new horse.:weightlifter:

GR, if you compare my 50 to TomG's you'll see that my counterweight extends farther than his, all due the extended arm on my 50.

You guys may also notice that my Aux hyd are wrapped around the stick. I made them too long, but I am waiting to trim them until I get the secondary hyd kit in. I should have ordered it right away, but that's hindsight. As soon as that comes in I'll reattach my thumb and be ready to go. If the thumb was on now it would just be dead weight, with hoses dangling.

stuvecorp
12-29-2010, 01:12 AM
Do you think having the 30 hurts production instead of the 40 size mower?

ioilyouin
12-29-2010, 12:26 PM
Well it's a run what you brung scenario for me. Yes the 50 would handle a 40" unit well, but by no means am I severly undersized either. We'll have to see how long the 30 holds out and go from there. The only thing I really want on my current mower is the HD setup shaft, towers, and the third "thatch" blade.

wanabe
12-29-2010, 06:45 PM
The pic now looks like you were just east of ashley, on the first road north of the RR tracks. If its where im thinking, then I dumped 3 loads of dirt at that farm last summer.

ioilyouin
01-03-2011, 02:13 PM
The pic now looks like you were just east of ashley, on the first road north of the RR tracks. If its where im thinking, then I dumped 3 loads of dirt at that farm last summer.

Dang, you're good at this.