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cpt87gn
02-16-2010, 10:34 AM
Im in the market for a truck for this season. But im not sure which way im going. Im new so i dont have much work yet. Ill be pulling a 5x10 trailer with
36''WB and a 21" push mower with the normal 2 trimmers 1 stick edgers blowers ect...
The guys with the V6's. Hows that working out for you?
My question is will a truck with a V6 be enought to pull it?
Will i be able to see the differnce in the money im saving on gas vs the V8

DT Lawn Care
02-16-2010, 11:15 AM
I have been using a straight 6 to pull a 6.5' x 12' with two WBs, 3 21"s, blowers, trimmers etc for 2 years now. Straight Six has less power than a V6. No, it's not great, but we've had the truck forever and she keeps on running. I will be using my "new" truck more this year with the V8, it will pull a lot better.

topsites
02-16-2010, 11:20 AM
I was going to explain it but then y'all ain't going to listen anyhow
so just go ahead and hook it up to whatever POS you're thinking
of pulling it with, all right?

Thank you!

Lawn Pawn
02-16-2010, 11:21 AM
Have a 2000 S10 auto trans 4x4 with the Z package.

Pull a 10ft aluminum open.... a 16ft aluminum tandem open.... a 12ft iron open tilt...... and a 5x8 iron open tilt. The 16 ft I pull use it very rarely to transport a 5000# tractor, not the best comfort level, but OK to bring across town when needed.

Other trailers pull great with a ZTurn and some related equipment. There is no power to spare.... but it does the job great for me.

2low4NH
02-16-2010, 11:28 AM
i also have an s10 with the 4.3 in it the motor has plenty of power its the suspension that sucks. i have a 5x10 with 2 foot mesh sides. the motor handles it with no issues. if you can afford the bigger motor go with it. i know im already looking to replace the s10 with another fullsize. my dodge with the cummins in it will pull an equipment trailer with a bobcat on it likes theres nothing behind you.

Hawg City Lawns
02-16-2010, 11:37 AM
i have a 2000 silverado with the 4.3 pulls fine pulled a car trailer with a 1996 extended cab s10 on it not to long ago youll have plenty of power to pull a mowing trailer and no the v6 will use more gas pulling the trailer

farmboy1285
02-16-2010, 11:38 AM
I used my 4 runner with a 3.4L V6 to pull my trailer around. Most I towed on a daily basis was a 32" WB, a 48" WB, 52" sufer, trimmer and blower and a 21" mower on a 6.5'x10' open trailer, I towed that load for most of a season, then I took my 48" WB off because I needed it else where, but for the better part of 3 years I towed the 32" and the 52". The V6 did just fine for city driving but driving on the highway was always a bear. The only problem I had was with the bearings in my rear axle, the tongue weight was not to friendly on them. To date no problems with the engine or trans. With a half ton you should easily be able to pull a couple of full size mowers, but you have to watch you braking distances and realize a V6 may not get you there as quick as a V8.

cpt87gn
02-16-2010, 02:15 PM
topsites go ahead and explain it .

BTM Lawn Maintenance L.L.C
02-16-2010, 02:23 PM
topsites go ahead and explain it .

The topic has been beat to death already..do a search.....:hammerhead:

lawnguy224
02-16-2010, 06:33 PM
It's like anything else you want to invest your money and get the best bang for your buck. I have a F150 with a 4.6 V8 and a Tundra with a 5.7 V8 the Tundra is by far better on fuel than the Ford. The Ford is always working to get the load moving and keep it going where the tundra just plops along with LOTS of power to spare. jut my 2 cents

MikeKle
02-16-2010, 09:02 PM
Being that you are in Texas, and I dont think Texas has too many hilly areas, you should be OK with a V6, but forget it in hilly areas. When I first started, I tried pulling a 6x12 single axle with a Ford ranger V6 2WD, and it was terrible, on hills, I had to floor the pedal, and it still was like driving up a steep hill in a semi truck, couldnt get above 45 mph! It was embarassing since I only had 2 WBS on the trailer! Just go with a V8, you will grow into it anyway.

DoetschOutdoor
02-16-2010, 09:57 PM
My old 3.0 pulled around a 6x12 open with 2 mowers perfectly fine. Standard tranny, wouldnt win no races but was definately a solid truck. Got it from dad at 130k, sold it 3 years later with 190k, all of those miles pulling a trailer or boat. The ford v6s, chevy 4.3 and others will suprise ya.

Hawg City Lawns
02-17-2010, 01:27 AM
talking chevrolets you know the 4.3 is just a 5.7 missing two cylinders but trust me it doesnt pull like a 5.7

KINGSBURYLANDSCAPELLC
02-18-2010, 11:08 PM
It's like anything else you want to invest your money and get the best bang for your buck. I have a F150 with a 4.6 V8 and a Tundra with a 5.7 V8 the Tundra is by far better on fuel than the Ford. The Ford is always working to get the load moving and keep it going where the tundra just plops along with LOTS of power to spare. jut my 2 cents

I to have a f150 with the 4.6 v8 and completely agree it works hard to get the trailer moving and continues to keep it moving. Not impressive at all.
I had a full size chevy silverado before this with the 4.3 v6 and it would pull FAR better than the f150's tiny v8 any day and this is in NH and there are hills/mountains everywhere

2low4NH
02-18-2010, 11:18 PM
thats just because your legs are to short to push the pedals

mike lane lawn care
02-19-2010, 08:11 PM
well, it's not going to win you any races, but a V6 should be ok. I used an astro van and a GMC 1500 both with the 4.3l V6 engine and they did just fine, never had a bit of trouble moving a trailer. The problem you're going to run into is one of safety. usually a V6 powered truck or SUV is smaller and a lot lighter than their V8 counterparts, making them less stable for towing. Another thing to consider is the braking performance of the vehicle, sure it may stop itself just fine, but what about when it has a loaded down trailer? so trailer brakes are a must, and don't think that just because it's a single axle trailer that you don't need brakes, because you do. I have a 2500HD with upgraded larger rotors and calipers and I still have brakes on my single and tandem axle trailers, the reason for this is, the truck's brakes are designed to stop itself and stationary weight in the bed, not rolling weight pushing from behind.

So in short, yes a V6 will work, as I said I have used them a number of times before, and did great for me. However, just make sure you are taking the necessary precautions for safety, because it's not only you that you'll kill when you can't stop, but that Honda Odyssey loaded with kids from soccer practice.

DKJLawnCare
02-19-2010, 08:44 PM
I use my Ridgeline to pull my 6x12. It has a 48" ZTR and a 21" push. My ridgeline has the 3.5 V6. It does OK. It definitely isnt going to win a race. But it works to get the job done. I get horrible gas mileage when towing with it. Hence the reason im going to get a 7.3 diesel F250

360ci
02-20-2010, 05:34 PM
If you want a V6 truck, it will save you money if you buy new. On the used market, you can get a better deal on a low mileage V8 truck. Most V6 trucks are limited to rear wheel drive only, if that works for you, fine!

I'd go with the GM 4.3L V6. Most come with the 3.23 rear axle, but 3.73 was a no cost factory option for most years, even 2010 models! The V6 makes max torque at 2800rpm, versus a high HP V8 in the 4000rpm range. Even with the 3.23 axle towing 2.5K (my estimate of the weight of an open trailer and your equipment). The V6 gets similar mileage as the DOD 5.3L V8 and 6 speed transmission with 2wd (non XFE). For the $2K cost of the 5.3L V8, added maintenance such as 2 quarts more oil to change each oil and filter change, more weight on the front end which reduces handling (from what there is to begin with), and having less tech such as the displacement on demand (DOD) system will save you money on future repair bills. Having two cylinders less also means you save a few bucks during tune ups. Not to mention the base price is low for a reg cab long box when compared to a loaded V8 extended cab model that you might never use.

Having more power and interior trimmings is great, but the V6 can legally carry close to 6K and it also has the highest payload rating. If I could live with rear wheel drive through 6-7 months of winter where I live, I'd get a GM W/T 4.3L ext cab short box.

With a previous business I an Astro C/V and a Savana C/V both with the 4.3L V6. Around town mileage was in the mid teens for both vehicles. I traded the Savana in at 228,000miles (370,900kms) and it burned no oil, and went 4K between regular oil changes (no synthetics). I traded it in for a 6.0L 3500 for the extra payload and mileage plummeted to 11-12mpg in town.

Needless to say, capability has a price, and if you want more, you'll pay for it. Only you can decide if the V6 is a good fit. It's not that I don't have the capital to buy a high end V8 truck, but for me, I won't use a vehicle like that to it's full potential.

As for trailer brakes, if you're under 2K, you should be fine without any. Check with your local DOT office for mandatory regs. I believe trailer brakes have to be on if the total weight is 3.5K or over. You can still install them on your trailer if it's not already equipped. I know you won't admit it, but if you're a more aggressive driver, it would be a wise decision to add trailer brakes.

Creative Cuts
02-21-2010, 10:19 PM
i got a gmc sierra 4.3 vortec that will do anything i need it to. pull a 6x12 trailer with 2 walkbehinds ,blowers, trimmers, hand tools. and in the winter i plow 20 some odd accounts with the same truck. gas mileage ain't no better than a v8 probably worse really, but it still works fine. but i might as well have a v8 due to the gas mileage i get.

Mr. Kevo
02-22-2010, 12:26 AM
Whatever you get, stay far away from a 3.0L Ford Ranger. They can hardly carry their own weight.

360ci
02-22-2010, 07:37 PM
i got a gmc sierra 4.3 vortec that will do anything i need it to. pull a 6x12 trailer with 2 walkbehinds ,blowers, trimmers, hand tools. and in the winter i plow 20 some odd accounts with the same truck. gas mileage ain't no better than a v8 probably worse really, but it still works fine. but i might as well have a v8 due to the gas mileage i get.

I'd love to have a V6 4x4. Just not an option in Canada. V8's only. Perhaps that's for good reason, but for 90% of the time my truck is driving, it's not towing, or hauling anything heavy except for my lard as$. 90% of the time, I wouldn't need a V8. However, I wouldn't plow with a 1/2 ton around my area.

STIHL GUY
02-22-2010, 10:00 PM
for that size trailer you should be fine with a V^. my ranger has a 4.0L V6 and it tows fine