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ProTouch Groundscapes
02-20-2010, 06:04 PM
gonna order 2 binders and 2 chains from uscargocontrol.com are they a good vendor? any other recommendations?

my order:

2x grade 70 20' 3/8", 6600lb working load chains for $38 each
2x 3/8" ratchet binders with 9200lb working load for $25 each

total comes to $128 then $26 bucks for ground shipping. sound reasonable?

DUSTYCEDAR
02-20-2010, 06:21 PM
CHECK OUT AW DIRECT TOWING
i use grade 80 chain for overkill

Gravel Rat
02-20-2010, 08:23 PM
I agree use grade 80 chain especially with 3/8s then you have some safety margin.

I think AW direct is a site sponser.

ProTouch Groundscapes
02-21-2010, 12:41 AM
thanks for the info. i was actually hoping to find something with more working load than 6600lbs of that grade 70 but wasnt aware of grade 80 chain.

Gravel Rat
02-21-2010, 01:13 AM
Also buy the North American made chain not that chinese imported crap. I know of people that have had problems with hooks stretching and problems with overseas made chain.

ProTouch Groundscapes
02-21-2010, 01:17 AM
i saw a few websites that said their chain was imported by north american companies, i made sure to stay away!

Gravel Rat
02-21-2010, 02:00 AM
I have been around cranes and have seen chain stretch and hooks bend and its the stuff from China. They maybe rated for so many X amount of tons but go past that limit abit and it fails.

You will want some kind of lockable chain box because chains seem to grow legs and disapear :laugh:

KrayzKajun
02-21-2010, 02:16 AM
You will want some kind of lockable chain box because chains seem to grow legs and disapear :laugh:

i learned this the hard way! 100ft of brand new chain jus disapeared!:hammerhead:

Gravel Rat
02-21-2010, 02:49 AM
Chains is expensive and if its easy to steal somebody will steal it.

You don't even need a box you have a hook rail that you can slip the hooks over then have a angle iron bar that you can lock over top which prevents the chain from being stolen.

queen of spades
02-21-2010, 09:24 AM
Is all chain sold by AW made in America? I didn't see anything saying this on their website (they are closed today or I'd call).

I need two ratchet binders and can't bring myself to buy the chinese imports.

queen of spades
02-21-2010, 09:27 AM
Found this...

http://www.awdirect.com/rachet-load-binder-for-1-2quot-grade-40-chain-ldr14/load-binders/

This steel binder has a double action ratchet mechanism that gives you complete adjustability. Assembled in USA.

So the materials are imported from China or bangledesh or god knows where. No thanks.

queen of spades
02-21-2010, 09:47 AM
Unless this company offshored its factories in the last few years, this one supposedly makes chain in America:

Laclede Chain Company (http://www.lacledechain.com/company.html), Maryville, Missouri
http://www.autohaulersupply.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=5341


Not sure who manufactures this suppliers chain but it too is made in USA:
http://www.cmforge.com/load_securement/dyproducts.asp?product_id=587

Columbus McKinnon forges and assembles some of their ratchet binders in America, too.
http://www.uscargocontrol.com/ratchetchainbinder516x385pack1924each-p-475.html
Some of McKinnon's binders are imports (the cheap ones) so beware: https://www.hardwareworld.com/Ratchet-Binder-pTVE2CC.aspx

Junior M
02-21-2010, 10:14 AM
Thats why you let your chain get all rusty. Nobody will steal an old rusty chain.

ProTouch Groundscapes
02-21-2010, 10:56 AM
ya my trailer has a lockable box up front in between the tongue for chain and such.

that grade 80 chain is $$$ $7 something per foot of 3/8" lol

im gonna calc it out and see if i just buy a length and get the hooks separately and make my own and see which comes out more expensive.

bobcat_ron
02-21-2010, 11:03 AM
Chinese made chain has too much Kia, Daewoo and Hyundai in it to trust, buy some Canadian or American steel chain.

Blue Goose
02-21-2010, 11:07 AM
Chinese made chain has too much Kia, Daewoo and Hyundai in it to trust......
Hell Ron, it's probably the chit those companies don't want...

Gravel Rat
02-21-2010, 03:06 PM
Thats why you let your chain get all rusty. Nobody will steal an old rusty chain.

You don't want rusty chain it is too miserable to work with. Chain gets stolen regardless its condition.

Also any chains for the trailer stay with the trailer they don't get used for other uses like pulling something out of the bush or mud etc. They never end up back on the trailer and when it comes time to move your machine the chains are not there.

Junior M
02-21-2010, 04:01 PM
You don't want rusty chain it is too miserable to work with. Chain gets stolen regardless its condition.

Also any chains for the trailer stay with the trailer they don't get used for other uses like pulling something out of the bush or mud etc. They never end up back on the trailer and when it comes time to move your machine the chains are not there.
Yeah, uh, okay!

Ever heard of gloves? Then they are no longer miserable to work with!

And I dont know about you, but the chains at work always ended up back where they came from? Of course I guess you have to be a responsible person for that to happen..

and we were working on the badside of downtown, this was with that excavation comapny. Doing an enviromental clean up, connecting all the wells together at this gas station. Well after having a couple shovels stolen we started taking everything but the trailer and mini ex back to the shop. Well when we finished up went to load up the trackhoe and our 2 new chains were gone on the unlocked chain box. The old rusty chains were still there..

ProTouch Groundscapes
02-24-2010, 02:36 PM
just a quick update.

i checked out the grade 80 from awdirect and it was like $105 for 3/8" x 20' with a 7700wll

so i went back to uscargo control and looked at their grade 70 1/2" x 20' and it was only $75 with 11,300wll

so i got more bang for the buck by going with the 1/2" chain from uscargo control.
they had a 2 pack deal for 1/2"-5/8" ratchet binder with 13,000wll for only $36 a piece

so total came to $217 shipped for the 2 chains and 2 binders.