View Full Version : Anti turfung and/or rutting tips.
LAWNGODFATHER
06-09-2002, 03:30 PM
So what's yours?
When I go around a tree, I only cut just what I need to to get the triangle for the next pass back.
Then when I come back on the neck pass, I get what I missed on the prior pass.
I don't go around the tree.
This helps with turfing and rutting around the tree.
Also I make 3 point turns when it is wet to keep from making turn divits.
Grass_Slayer
06-09-2002, 05:43 PM
sometimes even when i make 3 pt. turns i leave divits, always try to fix them though
corban
06-09-2002, 05:59 PM
Lawn Godfather,
Could you elaborate on your tip. I'm not quite catching what you are saying.
I go real slow through low spots that hold water. Less speed means less spin-out on the grass. Also, the hover mower is a nice option to have in wet conditions where ruts may be left.
P.S. My hover mower is still up for selling if you're interested.
ADMowing
06-09-2002, 06:07 PM
We use ZTRs and are very careful with our turns. We drive slow when on smaller and wet yards. Whenever possible, we mow yards in different directions each time we mow.
ohiolawnguy
06-10-2002, 08:21 PM
i think what LGF is saying is that he doesn't actally circle the tree. this will leave a small triangle to be weedeated on both sdes of the tree.
I suppose it depends on the size of the tree ring, but sometimes, my guys go around them. other times on the smaller beds, i have taught them to go around as though it was a box. go part way around the tree, back up a little then turn to the left(depending on what side the discharge chute is on-left or right) a little and continue on. same thing on other side of tree ring.
LAWNGODFATHER
06-10-2002, 10:33 PM
Correct I don't circle the tree but I do cut the triangle that would be left then back up and continue on.
Runner
06-11-2002, 01:27 AM
Tat, without question, is the right idea if you're running a Z. These things will tear dirt rings in in NO time with weekly circling, - no matter WHAT direction you are approaching them from, from week to week. I see it all the time on other people's work.
Miller Mowing
06-11-2002, 02:30 AM
I generally don't like to turn "directly in place" when it is real wet, so I have found that if you slowly start to move one of the wheels on one side or the other (on a ZTR mower) backwards, and then start moving the other wheel forward it doesn't seem to tear up the grass as bad. This is sort of hard to explain without being able to demonstrate, but I think you can figure it out real quick with a little experimenting. Many of you may do this already.
Yeah Neal, that's the trick. Keep BOTH wheels moving at the same time while turning....one forward and one in reverse. If one tire is stationary on the turf, with all that weight on it, a divot is most likely to be created. The tire that is setting still just 'grinds' into the turf. :eek:
It takes a little practice but after a while 'true zero turns' become natural.
Still, on wet turf, I slow down at the end of a pass and execute a 3 point turn. Better safe than sorry. )
David Haggerty
06-11-2002, 05:53 AM
Since my son Doug's been working I've seen these rings appearing. So it's not limited to ZTR's. I'm trying to get him to slow down and do it right like LGF describes. If he keeps up running circles around trees, I'll make him trim with the Toro 4WD! I think it has about a 6' minimum turning radius.:D
Dave
Vibe Ray
06-12-2002, 12:30 AM
It is certainly possible to circle a tree w/ out turfing it you just have to turn the inside wheel slower that the outside wheel....I do it all the time. Kinda like a "manual differential"!
MOW ED
06-12-2002, 07:17 AM
It truly is an art and it is part of what separates professionals form grass cutters. If you want examples just look at Eric ELMs pictures. It looks like he cut the lawn and then the trees were put back in the middle of the stripes.
I have the out front deck on the Walker and have adapted my techniques accordingly. I do remember the old days with the lawn tractor, man that digs into the lawn. I see lots of doughnuts and divots in other peoples lawns, it is hard for people to get the concept of a 3 pt turn and keeping the wheels moving.
I had a problem in the past with the WIDE tail wheel on the Walker. No matter how careful I was it made divots on some turn arounds. It took a little thought and my current mower had DUAL tail wheels. The big one makes a nicer stripe but the dual has 2 wheels that turn in opposite directions when you make the turn around which has resulted in many happy hours of mowing with no complaints.
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