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KrayzKajun
02-25-2010, 10:58 PM
house is one of the top 10 houses in the neighbor hood. same street of a major Country club/Club house for golf course.

on the phone lady said she wanted the beds cleaned up and new mulch

well heres the deal, met with her this afternoon. wants to remove all the old mulch and dead plants in all the beds and replace all the much!! also wants some trees trimmed and a price more mowing

this will be my biggest mulch job if i get it!
Front Yard:
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Backyard:
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T.Brandon
02-25-2010, 11:17 PM
Dayuumm!! Going to need my big dump for hauling and removing mulch!!!

KrayzKajun
02-25-2010, 11:19 PM
Dayuumm!! Going to need my big dump for hauling and removing mulch!!!

nah its jus a few wheel barrows full!!:hammerhead::hammerhead:

T.Brandon
02-25-2010, 11:22 PM
You'll be there awhile!:dizzy:

KrayzKajun
02-25-2010, 11:23 PM
You'll be there awhile!:dizzy:

you mean WE!!!:drinkup::waving:

T.Brandon
02-25-2010, 11:29 PM
As in this we do you mean you and my mexican from homedepot??:laugh: Im jk hope we land this !

M & MD Lawn
02-25-2010, 11:29 PM
Ive had to remove and replace mulch before, real back breaker, but it makes the putting down of the mulch go much faster lol, but it can be a pita, have fun!!!!!!!!!

pitrack
02-26-2010, 01:34 AM
Good luck man, you land this and do a bang up job that could be your foot in the door into the high end houses!

KrayzKajun
02-26-2010, 01:40 AM
Good luck man, you land this and do a bang up job that could be your foot in the door into the high end houses!

thanks man!!

Looking Good Lawn Service
02-26-2010, 01:41 AM
Best of luck, you will get it!

KrayzKajun
02-26-2010, 01:44 AM
if my numbers are correct. i came up wit approx 3500sqft of beds and approx 40yds of mulch to do all the beds and 15 tree rings

T.Brandon
02-26-2010, 01:49 AM
We should talk her into edging around the trees! More money!

grassman177
02-26-2010, 04:26 PM
nice size job there. i knwo about removeing mulch and it sucks, take plenty of pain pills!

i have a customer that uses about 13 or 14 yds. i had to remove it once too, that was not fun at all

OrangeToys
02-26-2010, 09:58 PM
are you planning on removing it all with a shovel or what? I have never been had to remove mulch, but putting it down when i do kills my back.

STIHL GUY
02-26-2010, 10:05 PM
removing mulch seems like it would really suck

KrayzKajun
02-26-2010, 10:15 PM
removing mulch seems like it would really suck

yea they want to change from cypress mulch to the dyed red mulch for better color.

the mulch in the beds is like 4" thick

Darryl G
02-26-2010, 10:28 PM
Man..I hate that red stuff. They really want to do that to that beautiful place?? Yuck!

What you can do if I have to remove mulch (I try to avoid it) is put a tarp out on the turf and use a power broom. I use my rubber paddle Shindaiwa power broom and actually run it upside down so that it pulls it out at you. It's easier on the operator and less aggressive so you don't dig up the soil in the beds. Of course, there will still be some hand work.

KrayzKajun
02-26-2010, 10:46 PM
Man..I hate that red stuff.

SO DO I! but the customer wants it:dizzy:

grassman177
02-26-2010, 10:54 PM
i too hate it but i have a few that want it, so they get it

Vogel-Landscaping
02-26-2010, 10:56 PM
yea we had to do some pretty big mulch removal jobs. I do a church. Its pretty large. All their plants were dying from years (before me) of the mulch being piled around the trunks of trees and shurbs etc. Def not the most fun aspect of landscaping but will make a beautiful difference at the end!! good luck on sealing the deal!!

stevenf
02-26-2010, 10:58 PM
I just mulched 8,000sqft about 3 months ago and I used 18 yards of mulch. May want to double check your numbers but plan for the worst anyway. To get 40 yds you would have to spread it 4" thick.

SNAPPER MAN
02-26-2010, 11:18 PM
If you get that job and remove all that mulch you need to do it properly and only lay down about 1-1.5" of mulch and do it twice a year. Doing it twice a year will make a huge difference. I do a house that requires 20yds of mulch each time so I know how you feel lol.

hoskm01
02-27-2010, 12:42 AM
While you're there, convince the customer to maybe not over-water the turf this year!

head_start
02-27-2010, 11:22 AM
it almost loooks like there is more mulch than yard, just kidding.

hoylebros
02-27-2010, 02:31 PM
also see if they will get rid of that crappy looking curbing!!!...i hate that stuff!!...good luck with it, and keep us posted

KrayzKajun
02-27-2010, 03:12 PM
While you're there, convince the customer to maybe not over-water the turf this year!

they dont water the yard! its called Southern Louisiana!

it rained almost everyday in January/ Beginning of Feb

KrayzKajun
02-27-2010, 03:13 PM
I just mulched 8,000sqft about 3 months ago and I used 18 yards of mulch. May want to double check your numbers but plan for the worst anyway. To get 40 yds you would have to spread it 4" thick.

i reworked the numbers! we are gunna need about 20yds for 2" thick

hoskm01
02-27-2010, 05:13 PM
they dont water the yard! its called Southern Louisiana!

it rained almost everyday in January/ Beginning of Feb
So there is no irrigation in that yard? Their curb is stained from running water where there is turf, not where the driveway is. Improve the penetration if that is the case. Those stains come from years of over-watering, not one wet winter.

keithslawnc
02-27-2010, 05:14 PM
We do a yard that we have to remove the mulch every third year. It requires 70 yards of pine bark once per year. So on that third year we have some real work to do!

Rocha_Construction
02-27-2010, 09:29 PM
It would definitely be a great project to take care of.

But I do not know... I am not too fond of posting somebody's house pictures on the internet without their permission unless is to ask important questions regarding an already obtained job.

LouisianaLawnboy
02-27-2010, 10:18 PM
Where is that at? It looks like it's in the country a bit.

KrayzKajun
02-27-2010, 11:10 PM
Where is that at? It looks like it's in the country a bit.

StoneBridge Subdivision. same street as the Country club!

LouisianaLawnboy
02-27-2010, 11:39 PM
It would definitely be a great project to take care of.

But I do not know... I am not too fond of posting somebody's house pictures on the internet without their permission unless is to ask important questions regarding an already obtained job.

Not illegal by any means for sure, just look at google earth.

Darryl G
02-28-2010, 01:11 AM
StoneBridge Subdivision. same street as the Country club!

Well now I got enough info to run out there and undercut your bid by estimating 19 yards of mulch. Thanks for the lead. :walking:

T.Brandon
02-28-2010, 03:40 AM
Then I'll drag your truck around with my 350:weightlifter::laugh:

KrayzKajun
02-28-2010, 05:09 AM
Then I'll drag your truck around with my 350:weightlifter::laugh:

forgot to call you back! go to bed

White Gardens
02-28-2010, 10:37 AM
Nice job there.

Up-sell on edging the beds again too.

Just looking at it I would say 15 yards of mulch are needed, but definitively no more than 20.

When I remove mulch, I generally don't take out more than half of what I'm putting down. In your situation though, seeing how they want the red stuff, you'll probably need to take almost all of it out.

Easiest, and cleanest way that I do it is that when it's good and dry, I take my tiller head on the string trimmer and make piles. Then I just take a tarp and load it on there and drag it to the truck. Usually works out pretty good.

Another up-sell too, is try to steer them away from the dyed mulch. Once it looks ugly, it's ugly, and there is nothing you can do about it except add more dye. I push for hardwood mulch. When it starts to bleach out with the summer sun, I come in with my tiller head again and till the mulch up, making it look "fresh" again, and I can also clean up the cut edges with it.

DUSTYCEDAR
02-28-2010, 10:50 AM
Gonna come down there and under cut lowball u and take your work lol
best of luck with your bid hope u get it

Darryl G
02-28-2010, 11:38 AM
I've found that if you're switching mulch colors like that you need to take out the old. Them little ground burrowing critters will bring the old stuff up to the top and makes it look like crud. But really, power broom works wonders if there's space between the plants to operate it.

Vogel-Landscaping
02-28-2010, 09:41 PM
a power broom?

hoskm01
03-01-2010, 01:28 PM
a power broom?

http://www.turfteq.com/images/broom_01a.jpg

lukemelo216
03-01-2010, 01:36 PM
because he will be able to easily maneuver that around in those mulch beds?

Darryl G
03-01-2010, 02:02 PM
Yah, that will be perfect! LOL

No, I meant the paddle-type handheld ones like Shindaiwa and Stihl make.

These are the tool of choice for gathering nuts under trees and getting driveway gravel out of lawns. Good for small area dethatching too but I sure as hell wouldn't want to do a whole lawn with it.

White Gardens
03-01-2010, 05:21 PM
I like the power broom, but prefer this instead.

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I like the cultivator a little better as it is narrower than the broom so I can get in tighter spaces with it. You can take the outside two tines off also to make it even narrower.

Whatever works for the situation.

Darryl G
03-01-2010, 05:29 PM
Yah but I was talking about using the broom to remove the mulch from the beds, not cultivate. I wish I had that kind of tiller, mine has the bolo tines like a roto tiller. I've demo'd the Sthil tiller with those tines and they're way better.

White Gardens
03-01-2010, 05:45 PM
Yah but I was talking about using the broom to remove the mulch from the beds, not cultivate. I wish I had that kind of tiller, mine has the bolo tines like a roto tiller. I've demo'd the Sthil tiller with those tines and they're way better.

Oh, the cultivator tines are perfect for breaking up compacted mulch and piling it up just like you would the broom. Except the broom might not bust through a severely compacted layer of mulch.

I use mine to renovate and to grade. I even use it to pile up old landscaping rock/mulch when redoing beds. Even after busting up the soil with a spade or shovel, I can till it out and move dirt around wherever I need to.

I have just got the yard boss cultivator head and just put it on the end of my stihl trimmer. Little lighter than the combi and I found the cultivator on e-bay for $120.00.

Also works great for re-defining cut edges on mulch beds too. It's just multi-purpose for me.

Here is a great example of piling with it.

Check out post 22. All the rock was moved to the sidewalk with the cultivator.

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=272897&page=3

lawnangel1
03-02-2010, 07:10 PM
I did the math, I came up with 21 yards of mulch at 2". A 4 man crew can remove the old and replace it in around 8 hours.

starry night
03-02-2010, 07:23 PM
I did the math, I came up with 21 yards of mulch at 2". A 4 man crew can remove the old and replace it in around 8 hours.

Just looking at the photos, it didn't look like 40 yards to me. Twenty yards is no biggie. It looks like "whole-tree" cypress. Real stringy and hangs together so it's easy to pick up pitchforks. If you're putting new mulch down, you don't need to get every shred of old. Red-dyed mulch? Good grief. At that mansion?

But get this lady as a client. Whatever it takes. :cool2: :weightlifter: :drinkup: