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JCLawn and more
02-27-2010, 05:07 PM
Does anyone one own anything of there's? If you do, I am looks at weed whackers, how do you like them?

Alan0354
02-27-2010, 05:16 PM
I have the M242 multi tool with both string trimmer and short reach articulate hedge trimmer. The only problem is the choke which they have a recall. Do a search on T242 and you'll see the detail. It is no big deal. Mine start well, just a little warmup and is good to go.

The Speed Feed head is second to none. If you buy other brands, you have to budge to buy a Speed Feed head for it.

JCLawn and more
02-27-2010, 05:17 PM
is power an issue?

Merkava_4
02-27-2010, 05:53 PM
Why is the T272 heavier than the T270? They're both have the same engine size. :confused:


http://shindev.shindaiwa.com/usa/en/products_2/trimmers/t270.php

http://shindev.shindaiwa.com/usa/en/products_2/trimmers/t272_t272x.php

JCLawn and more
02-27-2010, 06:02 PM
2 different power ratings too

OSU 09
02-27-2010, 06:41 PM
Got 3 T242 and an eb802 backpack blower and they are awesome machines. The speed feed head is great. They've got lots of power and run smooth. I have used both sthil and echo in the past, but shindy is the only thing for me now!

LawnPro19
02-27-2010, 07:03 PM
i had a 242 when they first came out hated um not enough power always somthin wrong with it have all 261's now and love them power is just right if you use the small speed feed heads great power to weight ratio

ed2hess
02-27-2010, 07:14 PM
Local shop is pushing the 2510 as best all around trimmer. I did a demo on one and the unit was a fine unit. I didn't like the speed head but probably could get used to it.

G. Ramey
02-27-2010, 07:49 PM
I have and have had several of there string trimmers. I own a blower that is close to ten years old, I havn't even changed the sparkplug and it will start on the second pull winter or summer. I have their backpack sprayer and their push spreader. My partime help will leave my stihl tools on the trailer every time and use the shindaiwa tools. The speedfeed heads are great.

Alan0354
02-27-2010, 07:51 PM
Why is the T272 heavier than the T270? They're both have the same engine size. :confused:


http://shindev.shindaiwa.com/usa/en/products_2/trimmers/t270.php

http://shindev.shindaiwa.com/usa/en/products_2/trimmers/t272_t272x.php

Have the cat muffler. They are heavier. I was surprised of the weight of my M242 muffler when I took it off to inspect the buildup. Here is the non cat muffler replacement for the cat model. Thanks Richard Martin for this........Blame him if it doesn't work also!!!!:laugh::laugh::laugh:

T-230 mufflers right here... http://j-thomasorder.com/iwwidb.pvx?...230TR&comp=JTH

T-260 mufflers are here... http://www.lawnmowerpros.com/shindai...T260-Parts.asp

T-270 mullers are here... http://www.lawnmowerpros.com/shindai...T270-Parts.asp

Merkava_4
02-27-2010, 08:07 PM
Have the cat muffler. They are heavier. I was surprised of the weight of my M242 muffler when I took it off to inspect the buildup. Here is the non cat muffler replacement for the cat model. Thanks Richard Martin for this........Blame him if it doesn't work also!!!!:laugh::laugh::laugh:

T-230 mufflers right here... http://j-thomasorder.com/iwwidb.pvx?...230TR&comp=JTH

T-260 mufflers are here... http://www.lawnmowerpros.com/shindai...T260-Parts.asp

T-270 mullers are here... http://www.lawnmowerpros.com/shindai...T270-Parts.asp


You're saying the T272 has the cat muffler and the T270 doesn't ... is that it? :confused:

LouisianaLawnboy
02-27-2010, 10:24 PM
is power an issue?

Not on a Shindaiwa.

Alan0354
02-27-2010, 10:48 PM
You're saying the T272 has the cat muffler and the T270 doesn't ... is that it? :confused:

It is my understanding..........And Richard Martin back up on this!!!!:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:

Hey Richard, you might be in big dodo!!!!:laugh::laugh:

Seriously, I can tell you, Shindaiwa trimmer do not use Strato type of engine with those air port crap. It is for the better. That was the only reason I choose the M242 over the RM CHTZ2401 or SRTZ2401.

Merkava_4
02-27-2010, 11:40 PM
I'm assuming the T2510 with its 4-cycle engine doesn't need a catalytic converter muffler. :confused:

Darryl G
02-27-2010, 11:55 PM
I've been running all Shin handhelds since 2002 and all of them still run well. I run the M series power heads also know as the multi-tool series. I've got an M-240, M-241, M 2500 (4 Mix..not that fond of it) powerheads and the follwing attachments for them: extended articulated hedge trimmer, 2 trimmer shaft/heads, the tiller, the power pruner, and the power broom. Also have 2 EB-630 blowers, the 30 inch hedge trimmer, the extended hedge trimmer. All good tools. My only real problem is the stupid gas line likes to come off the EB 630s near the primer bulb and so do the backpack straps. The stop switch on one blower is funky but if I spray it with contact cleaner now and then it keeps it working. Mind you its 8 years old and has been used extensively. I have had the carbs loosen on the blowers once each. All but the 2500 are one or 2 pull machines and ready to work almost instantly!!!! Most handheld stuff just doesn't do that. All in all Shin equipment has been really good to me, very dependable. I highly recommend Shin power tools.

Merkava_4
02-28-2010, 12:04 AM
M 2500 (4 Mix..not that fond of it)

Why? What do you not like about the M2500?

Alan0354
02-28-2010, 12:53 AM
I'm assuming the T2510 with its 4-cycle engine doesn't need a catalytic converter muffler. :confused:

I can tell you the muffler on my Shindy EB3410 34cc C4 engine is very light. So I can say it is not a cat muffler. I took muffler off all my stuff before, the M242 was the only one that supprised me on how heavy it was. The Honda and my old Echo HC151 felt normal.

Darryl G
02-28-2010, 12:55 AM
The 2500 starts harder than the 2 strokes, takes longer to warm up and is a little heavier. I just don't like the feel of it for the routine maintenance trimming. I work at a pretty quick pace and the 230s are pretty easy to sling around for that type of light trimming. The 2500 does have nice power though and the sound isn't quite as annoying...sounds more like an outboard motor. It's what I usually grab for the heavier trimming and to run the tiller, power pruner, power broom and the edger (forgot to mention I have that too). The 230s are a little lacking in power for those tools although it will run them fine. But for trimming, I find myself grabbing the 230s unless it's tall heavy trimming, in which case I grab the 2500. For the serious trimming and brush cutting I've got a Stihl FS 130 handle bar-style trimmer, but I don't load that on a daily basis.

Alan0354
02-28-2010, 12:57 AM
Why? What do you not like about the M2500?

If it is really 2500, that is the first generation C4. I heard they have a recall on the plastic piece between the carb and the engine. It was harder to start. Something to do with heat insulation if I remember correctly. That was the reason they came out with the 2510 improved version. That was long time ago. Have not heard anything negative on the new version yet.

Darryl G
02-28-2010, 01:08 AM
Note: In my original post I incorrectly said I had m240 and 241 power heads..they're 230 and 231 and yes my 2500 is the older first generation. Shin seems to do a pretty good job of learning from experience and improving their products.

Merkava_4
02-28-2010, 01:37 AM
If it is really 2500, that is the first generation C4. I heard they have a recall on the plastic piece between the carb and the engine. It was harder to start. Something to do with heat insulation if I remember correctly. That was the reason they came out with the 2510 improved version. That was long time ago. Have not heard anything negative on the new version yet.

Yes I remember reading a post during a search about
the T2510 upgrade kit available for T2500 trimmers.

Here it is:

Just talked to Shindaiwa Tech support and they have had some problems with starting difficulty and he mentioned two solutions

1) there is an upgrade kit for the 2500 called the 2510 upgrade kit which the dealer can order from Shindaiwa. It costs you nothing. It contains a new coil, flywheel and decompression valve. Shindaiwa pays the dealer to install it. I think this probably just makes the rope easier to pull. It is pretty stout. The reply above mentioned he had it done and the vibration went away, so that may also be a benefit.

2) If the unit is used a lot at less than full throttle, oil tends to pool in the crankcase and increases compression considerably and makes it hard to start. He said to start it and run at full throttle and shake and turn the unit upside down like you are edging. This is an attempt to get the gas and the oil mixed back up. He said that if a puff of smoke comes out of the muffler then it may solve your problem. I'm going to try it when I get home. I already called the dealer and asked him to order the 2510 upgrade kit.

Darryl G
02-28-2010, 01:55 AM
Yes I remember reading a post during a search about
the T2510 upgrade kit available for T2500 trimmers.

Here it is:

Hey, thank for the info. If it's free I guess I'll drop it off at my delaer the next time i'm there. Forgot what unit is is but they said they have an upgrade for one of my other machines for an exhaust bolt that was falling off and burining holes in the fuel tank (yikes). Now if I could just remember which which that is, lol.

Alan0354
02-28-2010, 03:16 AM
Yes I remember reading a post during a search about
the T2510 upgrade kit available for T2500 trimmers.

Here it is:

Man!!! You really read back all the old post!!!! Just like me when I first start doing the research almost 2 years ago.:drinkup::drinkup:

So you still have not pull the trigger to buy a new one yet? So what is your latest inclination?

One thing I have to say, if you buy another brand, change to the Shindy Speed Feed head no matter what.

newz7151
02-28-2010, 03:32 AM
My advice, if you can wait (unknown release date) would be to wait for the Shindaiwa T254 H4 Hybrid. Same basic design as the T2510 but with an improved air filter system and the Echo Pro Torq gearbox replacing the standard Shindaiwa gearbox. With the extra torque produced by the H4 engine and the Echo gearbox, it should be a nice powerful machine at the cutting head.

JCLawn and more
02-28-2010, 06:34 PM
this is what I am looking at http://www.husqvarna.com/us/landscape-and-groundcare/products/trimmers/335ls/#specifications 2.15 hp http://www.shindaiwa.com/usa/en/products_2/trimmers/t3410_t3410x.php 1.4 hp (which doe not seem like a lot for there biggest trimmer) http://www.stihlusa.com/trimmers/FS250R.html 2.15 hp

Darryl G
02-28-2010, 07:11 PM
What is the intended use? Those are all pretty big/heavy trimmers. Is this for routine trimming with weekly or biweekly mowing, or are you trimming along ditches and stuff periodically. I just wouldn't want to be using any of them for light trimming.

joed
02-28-2010, 07:28 PM
Shindaiwa makes absolutely fabulous equipment. I have 2 of their t230 trimmers. One was bought in 2001 and the other in 2007. Both run beautifully to this date. Light weight, fuel efficient and enough power for everyday trimming. I also have a 352s chainsaw. Great little unit. This year I'd like to add the EB8520 blower but I don't know how it compares to the Redmax 8000 I currently own. Shindaiwa has a saying, "First to Start and last to quit". I will say that has been my experience with their equipment.

Merkava_4
03-01-2010, 03:35 AM
So you still have not pull the trigger to buy a new one yet? So what is your latest inclination?



I'm still bouncing around from one to the other.
I can't seem to make up my mind because they're
all sweet. Last week I held an Echo SRM-265T,
a RedMax BCZ2401S, a Stihl FS130R, and a Stihl FS90R.
This week I'm gonna try and check out a Shindaiwa. :)

JCLawn and more
03-01-2010, 05:54 PM
For heavy trimming. I have a 25cc for light trimming and it works fine. I am talking 1/2 foot to 4 foot high grass.

JCLawn and more
03-01-2010, 05:56 PM
all of them are only 2lbs heaver than my 25cc

Juan91
03-01-2010, 06:00 PM
i have a T230 and love it too death, lots of power and easy to trim around anything

their a great machine and i have not had one problem besides rebuilding the carb.

JCLawn and more
03-01-2010, 06:10 PM
t230? hum. 22.5cc 1.1 hp? that is my normal cutting trimmer basically. I am going for nasty on the next one. I want to run 20inches of line and be able to cut foot high grass like I am cutting 4inch grass. I take my guards off. Its fine for normal trimming, it makes it much quicker to get done. The husky has the same motor as there 14ich chain saw.

Darryl G
03-01-2010, 06:10 PM
For heavy trimming. I have a 25cc for light trimming and it works fine. I am talking 1/2 foot to 4 foot high grass.

OK..makes sense!

Darryl G
03-01-2010, 06:14 PM
yah, I love my 230 and 231 but they're not powerhouses for what JC is looking for. I actually seized up my 230 once...got it free again with some marvel mystery oil, fired it back up..made some god awful noises for a while but runs just fine now, lol. I thought it was getting tired but it turned out the throttle cable had just stretched. I ran that without an air filter for who knows how long..must have dropped out on me and I didn't notice it.

JCLawn and more
03-01-2010, 06:16 PM
I do one pond. It takes one hour to do it with my 25cc. I think I could do it in half the time with twice the power. Another person waits till its 2 foot high on her lake before I cut it. That stuff is nasty. I would like to run over .10 line size on this one. If I end up getting it.

JCLawn and more
03-01-2010, 06:18 PM
look at this bad chain saw. 8.4 hp and up to a 6 foot bar.http://www.husqvarna.com/us/landscape-and-groundcare/products/chainsaws/3120-xp-/#specifications I want a weed whacker with that motor.

Darryl G
03-01-2010, 06:26 PM
yah, I run 105 line in my Stihl...I think I said I have the FS 130 handlebar..Actually it may be the 110...I forget. I like the handlebar style for extended trimming. Kind of limits your range a bit but less tiring. If it's just for a little while I'll just use the strap, but for big jobs I use the full harness. I just hate those stupid gas caps on the Stihl equipment.

Alan0354
03-01-2010, 09:27 PM
You really need two. One 30+cc with bike handle and the other light like a Kawi, Echo SRM211, Husky 326 that is light and easy to swing around for light trimming, edging etc. Finding one that fit all might end up to be expensive and not comfortable overall.

I have a Honda HHT31SUNBA bike handle and a little Shindaiwa M242!!!:)

Yes I use .105 on my Honda and go through 4' tall weeds like butter.

Landscraper1
03-01-2010, 11:09 PM
Does anyone one own anything of there's? If you do, I am looks at weed whackers, how do you like them?

I have been in this business a long time and have tried many different trimmers. Nothing compares to the Shindaiwa. They just last. I would have to take inventory to tell you what i have exactly. But, it's about 15-18 grass trimmers, 23 Backpack blowers, And a butch of assorted items. That's just the Shindaiwas.

Alan0354
03-02-2010, 04:02 AM
I have been in this business a long time and have tried many different trimmers. Nothing compares to the Shindaiwa. They just last. I would have to take inventory to tell you what i have exactly. But, it's about 15-18 grass trimmers, 23 Backpack blowers, And a butch of assorted items. That's just the Shindaiwas.

Seems like what you said apply to the older ones like the T272 and T261 etc. I have been hearing quite a few complains about the T242 which is quite dis-heartening to me since I bought the M242!!!:cry::cry:

Merkava_4
03-02-2010, 04:23 AM
Are the Shindaiwa's made in Japan - or did they start out being made in Japan?

"Shindaiwa" is a Japanese word isn't it? :confused:

Darryl G
03-02-2010, 08:08 AM
Seems like what you said apply to the older ones like the T272 and T261 etc. I have been hearing quite a few complains about the T242 which is quite dis-heartening to me since I bought the M242!!!:cry::cry:

Every manufacturer can have problems with their newer units while they shake down any problems. But rest assured Shindaiwa will make sure that you have a perfectly operating unit in your hand, no money out of your pocket, and no excuses. They stand behind their dealers on issues so you can count on your dealer to stand behind you. It's almost like the warranty on a Shindaiwa unit never runs expires.

Darryl G
03-02-2010, 08:10 AM
Are the Shindaiwa's made in Japan - or did they start out being made in Japan?

"Shindaiwa" is a Japanese word isn't it? :confused:

Yes, it translates to Shin (we) dai (kick) wa (a$$). :laugh:

Landscraper1
03-02-2010, 04:48 PM
Seems like what you said apply to the older ones like the T272 and T261 etc. I have been hearing quite a few complains about the T242 which is quite dis-heartening to me since I bought the M242!!!:cry::cry:

You got me thinking. So, I went out to the back to see. I have 6 T242's on the trailers. I have yet to have any problems with them. Believe me, if my men had problems I would know.:clapping:

JCLawn and more
03-02-2010, 05:26 PM
just got done at the michigan greenery association trade show. Checked out there line. I think I am going to try one. The 4 stroke one.http://www.shindaiwa.com/usa/en/products_2/trimmers/t3410_t3410x.php about $425

Alan0354
03-02-2010, 07:07 PM
just got done at the michigan greenery association trade show. Checked out there line. I think I am going to try one. The 4 stroke one.http://www.shindaiwa.com/usa/en/products_2/trimmers/t3410_t3410x.php about $425

I have the EB3410 hand held blower that have to same engine. It is reliable, 3 pull start and no warmup needed and is not loud. It is heavy though.