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HOLLYWOOD6973
03-01-2010, 05:08 PM
How many of you guys have older 5ton or bigger trucks?
I looking to buy a mid 80s to mid 90s to add the fleet.
It will mostly be used in the spring for hauling mulch & topsoil to job sites

Anything to look for or stay away from?

Gravel Rat
03-01-2010, 07:49 PM
Stay away from the 80-90 Ford F-700 F-800 I would be looking at International or Chevy. International trucks are good if I was looking at a 5 ton it would be a Ford Louisville 8000 best single axle trucks built.

Mowingman
03-01-2010, 07:52 PM
I would not buy one of those old trucks. They are expensive to register, expensive to insure, and tire, parts, and repairs are all expensive.
A better option is to buy a dump trailer you can pull with a 3/4 ton or 1 ton truck. Way cheaper to operate, maintain, and insure. you can easily find one that will haul just as much as one of those old dump trucks.

tnmtn
03-01-2010, 09:12 PM
i have a '79 C65 chevy gasser. yes the tags have been expensive but i have run it for 2 years with no repair bills. it isn't the fastest truck but it gets there. also unlike a trailer it is able to tow a backhoe or skid to a site get loaded then tow the backhoe back. it is in the shop right now getting some preventive maintenance done. i like the gas engine because sometimes it doesn't run for a couple months. check the oil and fluids, start it and it goes. next week it will haul about twenty loads of gravel then go to another job to haul out stumps. it has paid for itself a few times over. of course when you get a truck for the price i did it's easy to do.
good luck,

HOLLYWOOD6973
03-01-2010, 09:20 PM
Gravelrat what years for the Ford Louisville 8000 ?

Mowingman great Idea! But we have a tow behind Bark blower that gets load from the truck.

Gravel Rat
03-01-2010, 10:26 PM
The Ford L8000s were made from 1970 to 1997 they were used alot by Munis for plow trucks many were used for freight trucks etc.

Here is a nice L8000 single axle dump.

www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=2302526

HOLLYWOOD6973
03-03-2010, 06:14 PM
THANKS EVERYONE!

I put a deposit down today on a 1989 C70 Gasser 366 motor 5+2 speed
48000 miles
http://NEW TRUCK

HOLLYWOOD6973
03-03-2010, 06:19 PM
sorry here are some pic's

Gravel Rat
03-03-2010, 07:18 PM
You will want to find 6 wheels and 6 tires you will want to replace those what look like 10.00-20 bias ply tires for 11R22.5 tires for one they ride better and two they are easier to find. The 22.5 dayton wheels will fit on the same spoke as 20 inch wheels.

That era Chevy is common usually the cab is rusted through. Not sure if your going to like the 5+2 gearing you will probably go through a few 2 speed motors and lots of gear grinding :laugh:

Mowingman
03-03-2010, 08:07 PM
Nice looking old truck. Almost exactly like one I had several years ago. Mine was a 1979 model, had a 4/2 transmission, and a 350 engine.
you will find that your truck is pretty nimble and you can get down the road pretty quickly after you get the hang of the splitter. It also should have a very tight turning radius, making it great for tight spots. Looks like you have a winner there. Good luck with it.

evanbrendel
03-03-2010, 08:34 PM
nice truck almost identicle to my bucket truck love the 5 an 2 also love the tilt hood for maintenance.

HOLLYWOOD6973
03-03-2010, 09:28 PM
You know it's funny. This is my 14th year in business and by no means my first truck.
Last year I bought a new W5500(isuzu) with heated mirrors, custom spec. bed, and so on.
3mos. ago I got a new GMC 2500hd.

And I find myself excited about buying a 21yr old truck.

Mowingman
03-03-2010, 09:43 PM
I know exactly how you feel. I felt the same when I got mine. It must be because it is, "big". This is a "real" truck, not just a puny 1 ton.:laugh:


You know it's funny. This is my 14th year in business and by no means my first truck.
Last year I bought a new W5500(isuzu) with heated mirrors, custom spec. bed, and so on.
3mos. ago I got a new GMC 2500hd.

And I find myself excited about buying a 21yr old truck.

T-Trim
03-04-2010, 09:58 AM
[QUOTE=Gravel Rat;3446923]You will want to find 6 wheels and 6 tires you will want to replace those what look like 10.00-20 bias ply tires for 11R22.5 tires for one they ride better and two they are easier to find. The 22.5 dayton wheels will fit on the same spoke as 20 inch wheels.

We have one just like it. Are you saying we can put bud style rims on that truck? Please help I'm lost

Gravel Rat
03-04-2010, 06:17 PM
You can get drop centre 22.5 dayton wheels that will replace those 20 inch dayton wheels. You have to stick with Dayton (spoke) hubs unless you change them out for hubs that accept budd wheels.

The 22.5 wheels you can get from a tire shop it will be expensive from the start but you really don't want to be running on 10.00-20 bias ply you can get 10.00R-20 which is a tube type radial but they are hard to find and most tire shops won't do snap ring wheels.

tnmtn
03-04-2010, 08:31 PM
congrats on your truck

T-Trim
03-05-2010, 11:00 AM
You can get drop centre 22.5 dayton wheels that will replace those 20 inch dayton wheels. You have to stick with Dayton (spoke) hubs unless you change them out for hubs that accept budd wheels.

The 22.5 wheels you can get from a tire shop it will be expensive from the start but you really don't want to be running on 10.00-20 bias ply you can get 10.00R-20 which is a tube type radial but they are hard to find and most tire shops won't do snap ring wheels.

Sorry still a little lost. So we keep the spoked part of the rim on the truck and buy the outer rims "20in" . Which is where the tire is mounted to. Or buy new budd style rims with tires.

Ok what would be cheaper in the long run. 20's or new budds?

MikeKle
03-05-2010, 01:35 PM
Why would the tags be expensive? Isnt it just based on the value of the truck itself?

T-Trim
03-05-2010, 05:28 PM
Well in Ohio its by weight

MikeKle
03-05-2010, 07:43 PM
Interesting, here they tax us based on the trucks value, and you can get them to drop the value for just about any reason! So that truck here, the tags would be around $75. year or less. I pay $140. per year on my ram, which is much newer.

P.Services
03-05-2010, 07:50 PM
What did you pay for it? I shoulda sold you my truck!
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HOLLYWOOD6973
03-06-2010, 09:57 AM
Thanks everyone.

I pick her up Monday night. I'll have about 1.5hr ride home I'll post how its goes:)

Id called my local tire guy and he can get the 10.00r/20 so that's the route I'll go.

I paid $5500.00 with new Pa Inspection sticker. Not bad no rust on the cab or doors newer holly carb. I'll post more pictures when I get back to the shop.

Gravel Rat
03-06-2010, 02:20 PM
You are lucky the tire shop will do snap ring tires you will probably get charged a good price doing a change over. The tires will be minimum 400 each then you have the 10.00R20 tube another 25 dollars or so. Change over each tire you would be looking at 100 dollars per wheel.

I found 22.5 dayton wheels on craigslist for 20-30 dollars a piece for used ones. I wouldn't ever fool with with 20 inch tires you ever get a flat then your screwed unless you have spare tires kicking around.

Running 22.5 tires they are common as mud and can be repaired road side or on a jobsite. A 10.00R-20 tire has to be done in a tire shop with a cage.

The ring on a split/snap ring rim is dangerous they have caused decapitation ie the tire guy's head taken off. If you ever have a low tire you use a clip on tire chuck with a long hose and a valve.

A 22.5 tire takes 5 minutes to change a 10.00R20 tire looking at 20 minutes.

stuvecorp
03-06-2010, 07:39 PM
Truck looks nice. When I started my first truck was an old GMC like that, it was very maneuverable. It was a plow truck so everything was rusted but it ran great and the central hydraulics was cool. I wish I would have kept it instead of setting up the Kodiak.

hosejockey2002
03-07-2010, 10:07 PM
A better option is to buy a dump trailer you can pull with a 3/4 ton or 1 ton truck. Way cheaper to operate, maintain, and insure. you can easily find one that will haul just as much as one of those old dump trucks.

My old man picked up an '88 GMC with a Cat diesel, 10 speed Roadranger transmission with air brakes for $7500. It can legally haul 18,000 pounds in the bed. There's no way you can haul that much behind a pickup. With the weight of the trailer you'd be towing 25,000+ pounds. Even the lighter duty gas dumps can haul 12,000 or so, and get into places you'd never dream of putting a 16K+ dump trailer with a pickup.

P.Services
03-07-2010, 10:20 PM
any one else want a gas engine dump like his but the newer body style? brand new 10' dump body that cost 4 grand. will sell truck for 7,500. runs like a champ.