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Chuck Sinclair
06-19-2002, 06:47 PM
I have an employee that earns about $800.00 a month from me, he has done a lot of time in prison and not been around much. Today I get a letter from the local Da's office telling me that I have to send $650.00 a month of his wages to them for child support.
Then I get one from another county saying I have to send them $75.00 a month of his pay, so now he is out $725.00 and so far the biggest check he has seen was $470.00 in 2 weeks
Here's the problem if I tell him now he will either quit or want the day off and I can't have that right now ( I have two jobs to finish) should I tell or wait until Tuesday when the jobs are done.
I am leaning toward waiting.
:confused:
BigJim
06-19-2002, 07:11 PM
Cut your losses tell him today,there must be someone out there better than him to work for you.
1MajorTom
06-19-2002, 07:16 PM
I agree with Jim.
This is not the kind of man we would want working for our small company. It's a shame, because he may be reformed. But a small company shouldn't be taking chances on a man that has done a lot of time in jail.
HarryD
06-19-2002, 08:28 PM
i disagree just because he has done jail time doent mean you dont want him working for ya . we all did stupid **** when we were young some of us got caught some us didnt im lucky i never got in trouble when i was young but i could have easy.
i would tell him im sure he will quit cuz whats the use of working if you arent gunna get a pay check is most guys thinking that are in this boat. i know he needs to take responsablity for his kid and pay child support but taking almost all a mans wages is not gunna get him to pay it. ive seen alot of guys qiut there jobs and move on just for that reason
Toroguy
06-19-2002, 09:18 PM
Folks,
The DA wants child support not Bail money. This worker has a domestic child care dilemna.
He will want to find a cash type pay structure when he finds out (Im sure he is aware) he has been found.
John from OH
06-19-2002, 09:26 PM
Oh the joys of being an employer. You have to make the call on whether the employee is worth keeping. If he is worth keeping, I believe you need to check on his child support calculations. There are limits as to how much can legally be taken for child support. Off hand, I think it is about 55% of his net pay. There is also an additional percentage that can be taken for arrearages. My BIL had this problem. Child Support Services and the courts are supposed to keep track of all these payments and keep you informed as to how much you can legally deduct. This percentage is usually buried in the fine print of the support order.
robert payer
06-19-2002, 10:10 PM
Surround your self with only the best. Teach your self a lesson here, or at some point he will be teaching you. Termination costs a lot less, later it will cost you $$$$.
Brickman
06-19-2002, 11:58 PM
I believe there has been good advice given here. One thing you need to do is consider that he might continue to work for you. Is he that good of an employee that you wish to give him a chance? I am all for giving every body a second chance, but you do need to be careful having some body around that has a record.
i would want to know what he did time for. then i would work him only if i thought it was in the best interest of your custmers and yourself. hes paid that debt,so i might give as many breaks as i could ,if i trust him.
now payin child support,shouldnt be a question. im very glad these people are finally having to meet the responcibilities
they took on when they made the baby.
enough have to pay and it might be the best birth control pill ever invented.
no offence intended ,unless u are ducking responcibility for a child somewhere. that case i hope u are offended.
Chuck Sinclair
06-20-2002, 12:19 AM
I have been thinking about getting rid of ham any way (He partys too much) and then dosent work worth **** i just don't want him to take a hike before these job are complete. After that i can work it out.
BTW he has done 24 years on and off for selling drugs and as far as chances go with me he is on his third strike, and is gone anyway if he screws up.
Albemarle Lawn
06-20-2002, 01:08 AM
Wait until your jobs are done. I'm sure the court gives you 10 days or so to reply.
As soon as you tell him, he is guaranteed to quit. You won't have to fire him.
DO NOT PAY HIM CASH...
You could wind up being one of his cellmates during his next stay, since you would knowingly be helping him evade child support.
Ken
65hoss
06-20-2002, 04:13 AM
I think most focused on the prision part and overlooked the real question. Its not about his prior record, but about a management decision.
You should tell him now. Its his life and finances your dealing with. If you want to keep him around for only a week or even longer, then offer to make a few calls to the DA's office and check into why so high and explain to them this is almost all his money. Trying to help him will go a long way in keeping him until the jobs are finished.
Your dealing with people and their lives. This is such a huge % of his money that he really needs to know this. Give him time to handle things. What if he has rent due and your didn't tell him all his money was going to the DA's office. I think ethically you should tell him 1st thing in the morning.
Tony Harrell
06-20-2002, 06:10 AM
I agree with hoss.
TGCummings
06-20-2002, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by 65hoss
I think ethically you should tell him 1st thing in the morning.
I agree.
WashMoBrink
06-20-2002, 11:32 AM
I agree. Tell him. What would you want done if you were him......
Pro-Cut Lawns
06-20-2002, 01:06 PM
Yeah...what 65hoss said........
AVRECON
06-20-2002, 01:16 PM
Most of what I'm goin to say may be a mute point, since you say this guy is on his third strike anyway. But if I wanted to keep this guy I would contact the judge that signed off on this order. I would tell him what the deal is with the guys pay, and that it would be better for ALL involved that the guy continue to work and make some arrangements to make up his child support payments. And tell him this guy is gonna walk if this order from the bench is enforced as specified. That helps no one involved, especially the kid. Therefore ask the judge if there would be another way of helping this guy make up his payments and get caught up. And if $650.00 per month is what he's gotta pay, that there's no way in hell this guy is going to stick around. If this judge is worth his weight in salt, he will listen to what you have to say. He has full judicial discretion to make arrangements as he see's fit to.
Here in N.C. they put your butt in the clink for not paying child support and while you are in the cell your payments continue to grow. They will also take your drivers license for failure to support. Of course here in N.C. they use your drivers license like a carrot anyway. Spit on the side walk, they want your DL. Anything you do here thats illegal, the first thing they want is your DL.
Chuck Sinclair
06-20-2002, 06:57 PM
Well i told him this morning, after we left for the job he said he was going to handel it.
smburgess
06-20-2002, 07:22 PM
I have to deal with garnishments a couple times a year, FOLLOW THE LAW or YOU will the one be in FRONT OF THE JUDGE.
A garnishment cannot take all his money, just most of it. It should have explained that right on the garnishment papers.
Believe me, once he finds out he's being garnished, he's GONE.
ALSO he "can't handle it", the COURT has said YOU have to handle it because he hasn't, and until the COURT contacts you and tells you differently it would be very wise to do what they want.
Chuck Sinclair
06-20-2002, 07:31 PM
Yep i am going to handel it and give him his walking papers, hes just not worth all the hassel hes been putting through.
cowman66
06-20-2002, 08:44 PM
good choice! throw him out
brucec32
06-30-2002, 02:23 PM
$800 a month? Where is your company located? Bangladesh? hahahaha.
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