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williamslawn
06-22-2002, 05:13 PM
I demoed a Super Z yesterday and I was impressed. I only have one drawback that is the speed. I am a little scared to turn one loose with a crew. Speed might be a little too fast. If I was operating I would have bought on the spot. Mower was very smooth and quality of machine appeared very good. I am looking at Toro and Scag,curently own both, please give me some feedback why I should give Super Z a second look.

mowerconsultant
06-22-2002, 06:17 PM
You can limit the top speed by adjusting the stops, this will slow it down for your crews.

The Super Z is built heavier than anything out there.
Handles hills better than anything out there.
Do some research here on Lawnsite and you will see the Hustler will be your best choice.

Hope this helps
Pj

John DiMartino
06-22-2002, 07:14 PM
willaimslawn,if i were you,id seriously consider the Hustler,it is extremely well built,and engineered.Not to mention the cut/speed are awesome.If nothing new comes out before next yera,I will be looking to buy one.

gene gls
06-22-2002, 09:31 PM
Mowerconsultant:

I got my Hustler Z 60" this week, its a super machine and it flies. I am concerned, as are other company owners, in regards to opperators mowing at full speed. Why don't Hustler put an adjustable speed limit switch to be actavated when the blades are engaged and make it unacessable to employes so us owners will know how fast the machine is mowing at. I would like to have gotten the Super Z but I know the top end speed would be an issue down the road at some point. My customers think my Walker is fast and question my charges against time spent mowing thier lawns. I have 2 adjoining properties ( 94,000 sq ft)that were a 5 hour mow with the Walker. They were done in 1.5 hours with the 2 machines.

I watched my opperator mow our steepest property yesterday. I was very suprised at the holding ability the Hustler had going down the 40' bank. It started to brake loose on 1 pass because he started out too fast. This area was a challenge with the WB,30min, verses 5 min with the Z.

williamslawn:

Go with the Hustler 60" Z . Its pleanty fast enough unless you do a lot of transsit travel.

Gene

Doc Pete
06-22-2002, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by gene gls
Mowerconsultant:

I got my Hustler Z 60" this week, its a super machine and it flies. I am concerned, as are other company owners, in regards to opperators mowing at full speed. Why don't Hustler put an adjustable speed limit switch to be actavated when the blades are engaged and make it unacessable to employes so us owners will know how fast the machine is mowing at.
Gene

Sorry to think you are off base but, the problem, IMO is still the consumer/company owner. For instance, you can go into any motorcycle shop and if you have a bike license, drive away with a machine that will do a 1/4 mile in 9 seconds, zero to 60 in 3 seconds, and have a top speed of 150 mph.
Crazy, just crazy.
Frankly, the problem is owners lettings unqualified (cheap help) run dangerous equipment. It about time we start paying employees that can make the company $60/100 per hour more than $6/$10 per hour. As my old Boss said to me years ago, "It doesn't take a rocket scientist to weed whack". Well, after she saw all the scalping, broken trimmer heads and wasted time from the new inexperienced help, she changed her tune real fast.

It's time people took responsible and not put it on the manufacturer. Just like learning to drive a race car, you "have to" qualify for each more powerful car you want to race. This should be the same for machinery.
Just my two cents,
Pete

gene gls
06-23-2002, 11:02 PM
switchless:

I guess I used the wrong wording in my post. How about if Hustler offered a speed limit switch as an oppition to us concerned owners. This way if you want to run full blast mowing don't buy the switch.

Also, your remarks in regards to my employes are uncalled for.

Gene

Doc Pete
06-24-2002, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by gene gls
switchless:

I guess I used the wrong wording in my post. How about if Hustler offered a speed limit switch as an oppition to us concerned owners. This way if you want to run full blast mowing don't buy the switch.

Also, your remarks in regards to my employes are uncalled for.

Gene


Gene, I apologize if I sounded like I was singling out your particular employees. However, after talking with many manufacturer's of mowers and mower accessories over the USA, observing and talking to other local LCO's, and participating in other forums, there "are" many of these employees. They are universally called "No Names". And, it is creeping into most "service" industries. So, while this may not apply to your employees, it is a reality. Again, I'm sorry if I offended your employees, but still, IMO, a qualified employee should "know" how fast or slow to cut. That's just part of the job.
Pete