pumping gas is dangerous

[P&J Lawncare]

I was filling on of my mowers the other day and it quit pumping gas all of a sudden so I got off my trailer to hit the button to start the pump over and as soon as I got to the pump the hose come off the pump and sprayed my entire face full of gas. I got gas in my eyes and mouth so I went into the station (with the nozzle and the hose still in my hand) and as soon as I got in the door the lady behind the register said "oh my god what happened" so I told her that the hose fell out of the pump and sprayed my face full of gas so she took me to the sink so I could rinse my eyes out and she called the paramedics so they could take me to the hospital. While I was waiting for the paramedics the lady said that the pump that I was using was just repaired yesterday because a person pulled out without taking the pump out of their car and they ripped the hose out of the pump, I assumed it was just a fluke accident that the hose came off but it wasn't and now they are going to pay for their sloppy repair work. I am presently taking steroids for the puffiness in my face and eyedrops for my eyes because of the chemical burns I got due to this incident so in the future watch out at the gas pumps because you never who just fixed them.

[HOMER]

That don't sound too fun.

I hope you got everything documented and ready to go.

[P&J Lawncare]

Not only is it documented it is in living color because one of my friends pulled into the station as I was dragging the hose into the station and he started to take pictures of the whole incident. He took pictures of the pump and pictures of me in the sink trying to rinse my eyes out, also the paramedics were told what happened by the gas station employee and she gave me her number so my attorney could call her if need be.

[HOMER]

Might as well jump on the band wagon.........I'd say you got cause to do so with this one. Your buddies arrival was timely as well. :)

[TLS]

Sorry to hear of your mis-fortune...

Ride this wave, as long as it'll take you!

[LAWNGODFATHER]

If they pay your med bills and you sue for more I hope you NEVER have an accident.

Sorry to hear about that.

I had a guy helping me spray lawns and a hose blew off the pumps fitting and sprayed him in the face.

We flushed his eyes and hosed him down real good. Luckily that was it.

[MOW ED]

There are lots of lawsuits going on these days and many are just people looking for money, you have a legitimate issue here and don't be swayed by anyone telling you not to pursue it. Whoever made the repair to that pump did it WRONG and that resulted in your injury but it could have resulted in death.

Just imagine if that was your mom or grandmother fueling up and getting a bath of gasoline. Someone did a repair that was not correct, there is no excuse. They are liable. You suffered pain, lost time and injury and you deserve to be compensated. And yes you deserve more than the paying for the medical bills. I cant imagine letting someone injure you because of negligence and letting them off because they agreed to pay for your medical care. Would you feel the same if you lost your sight and they said they would pay for a guide dog for the rest of your life?

I am glad that you weren't hurt more seriously. I hope you are back out mowing soon.

[Scraper]

Yep, just one happy litigious society we are.

[Remsen1]

Lawngodfather, I hope you really don't mean he should ONLY be reimbursed for his medical bills.

What about the pain?
What about the loss of work and related family hardship?
What about lingering effects/permanent damage?

He should be reimbursed for all.

[Scraper]

Originally posted by Remsen1
Lawngodfather, I hope you really don't mean he should ONLY be reimbursed for his medical bills.

What about the pain?
What about the loss of work and related family hardship?
What about lingering effects/permanent damage?

He should be reimbursed for all.


I think you missed your calling...you should've been a lawyer. How do you know he had any of the above? Not to mention, what o you really think he'll get? You'd be surprised...by the time the lawyers are done collecting their share he might have enough left over to buy a cup of coffee. That's the problem with society today...everyone is out to make a quick buck. :mad:

On this rare occasion, I have to agree with LGF ;) as if the shoe were on the other foot, I'm sure he'd be praying to whatever God he has that the people don't sue him.

P.S. You forgot loss of consortium.

[MOW ED]

The problem with society today is that no one wants to be accountable for their actions.

If you are a professional, you have a standard to perform up to. If you are negligent in your performance then you become liable. Its time for people to grow up and not run and hide when they screw up.
Our society allows us to seek damages for instances such as this. I will agree that there are lots of frivelous lawsuits but you tell me where this gentleman is doing something wrong and does not deserve damages.

Can it be that some are jealous, that might be a broad generalization but then there are lots of them here.

[Remsen1]

If there is pain, loss of work, family hardship, permanent damage, then he deserves compensation do you agree?

It would all be covered by insurance.

If it were me, it would not be to make a quick buck... I would never purposely hurt myself just to make money, nor would I sue for any of the above if it were not legitimate. But, if it were legitimate I would.

How about this scenario. You're standing in Home Depot, admiring a display of Paint Cans stacked all the way up to the ceiling. Suddenly the tower of cans comes crashing down on top of you. You are knocked unconcious, your leg is broken, and your neck is broken. You are left to live the rest of your life as a vegetable. Your medical bills consist of Hospital visits, Pain Killers, Leg Casts, Neck braces, Cat scans and dr's fees totalling $w5,000. Home Depot's insurance company promptly cuts you a check for $25,000. Do you push your little joystick ahead and roll out of there in your motorized wheel chair with a smile on your face? Afterall, you were reimbursed for your medical bills so whatcha bitchin for?

I know PJ's case isn't this extreme, but if he can't work temporarily who pays the bills? Who feeds hes family? If his face is disfigured and decreases his ability to gain customers through no fault of his own, who pays for that? Who pays for the initial and long term pain? Did PJ ask for that pain? Did he deserve to be in pain?

I think if it were you, you would have a much different opinion on what he is owed and what he is not owed.

[TFL]

had something similar happen to me. the trigger stuck and the gas just kept coming.

[Scraper]

Yeah...your scenario is a bit extreme and is a whole different ballgame. Would I sue in this situation? I would have to have been pretty f'd up to go thru the time and expense of drawn out legalities. Sure...the insurance company will probably cough up for the medical expenses and maybe a small amount for pain in suffering considering it a nuisance suit (some people make a living out of these) and if they pay a little out, it will all go away. Not a jackpot here by no means. The least I would expect if it were me was to have my medcal bills covered, but then again...I have health insurance of my own that would take care of that.

[P&J Lawncare]

I wasn't going to comment on lawngodfather's statement because of the fact that me and him have a history of disagreements that sometimes get nasty between us but I want to set the record straight about this incident. I have not been able to work for a week now and I don't forsee myself working for another week so that will be two weeks that I wasn't able to work, My two crews are working and they are keeping up but I had to move my two part time employee's to full time statis and that has increased my payroll by $500 this week alone. I don't like the fact that everyone is out to sue each other but I run a large company ($40,000 per month gross) and it takes a bite out of my buisiness if I am not able to run it. I have to pay $7,000 per year for Insurance on my buisiness just to cover my *** if something happens on my accounts so I don't fell bad if there insurance has to cover the accident that injured me, I have not had a day go by that my eyes haven't burned and had discharge coming out of them so this week I have got to go to a specialist so they can take care of this problem. My time is valuable and someone is going to compensate me for my down time, if they would of fixed it the right time instead of cutting corners they wouldn't have to worry about being sued and I could of kept working instead of sitting at home worrying about my eyes. I wish it had not happened but it did and I am not going to let them forget about the fact that it did, if anything this will make it so it doesn't happen to anyone else in the future (lawn godfather what if it was your kid that it happened to would you fell the same way about it). Let me tell you it is a scary feeling being blinded by gas and not knowing if it is goint to be permanent, I still don't know how much damage there is and I wont until I see the specialist. The hose just didn't drip gas out it had back pressure and it sprayed me like a air hose would (at least 80 psi) so they had to check my eyes for abrasion's also so this isn't just some gas getting into my eyes it is a little more serious than that so they are going to pay me for what they did, I have three girls and a wife who depend on me so the medical bills getting paid ain't going to cover it with me.

[Scraper]

Best of luck...just don't hold your breath. Remember...they have lawyers too. Hopefully their insurance just settles it out as a nuisance suit as I said before, as opposed to dragging it out.

[Remsen1]

P & J, I hope you get all that you deserve.

[dr grass]

p&j - sorry to hear about your misfortune bro. dont listen to these other cats that are hinting around that your just trying to make a quick buck. you obviously have a legitmate case on your hands here. if i had to sit around for weeks on end i would go crazy not being able to work. on top of things, you have to worry about your medical status. the repair company has to stand up for their sloppy work. best of luck to ya.

shep

[Grass_Slayer]

i would be suing the heck out of the gas station the repaimen the insurance companies, whoever touched that pump is going to be hearin from me. gas is a hazadous substance, it is not one to be taken lightly. just thank god that u were obeying the law and not smoking. u wouldnt have been around to post this.

[mdb landscaping]

I can tell you exactly why that happend. All the pumps nowadays are equipped with break away nozzles, so when a person pulls away the nozzle will break clean and not spill as much gas or damage the pumps. sounds to me like the repair man didnt reattach it totally. when you reattach one of those, you are supposed to hear a click, but sounds to me like when you were using it, it came disconnected, and got sprayed. sounds like a fluke thing, but i hope you are better.

[LAWNGODFATHER]

The comment was not from what P&J said but someone else.

I belive in being reimbursed, but it has to be real and not rediculas.

For someone on here to say sue their butts off, what does that do to "your" insurance rates?

To the drag on from another thread I will leave that out for now.

[robert payer]

P&J Lawncare,
Hope that your feeling better soon! Sorry to hear of your accident.

Look forward to the up coming holiday to rest a little more.

[P&J Lawncare]

]I belive in being reimbursed, but it has to be real and not rediculas[/QUOTE by Lawngodfather]

At what point in my story does it become unreal and ridiculous.

[LAWNGODFATHER]

Maybe you don't read or comprehend.

Ride the wave.

Cha Ching.

Do those ring a bell?????????????

[HOMER]

Let's see...........spill hot coffee in lap cause you can't hold a cup in your hand, collect hundreds of thousands.

Get gas shot in your face, eyes, ears, mouth, cause somebody else screwed up.......collect medical expenses.

I'm not sue happy either, jurys are the problem cause they continue to award ridiculous settlements. When it's legit it's legit.....do what ya need to do.

No argument from Homer.

[P&J Lawncare]

LGF

I read very well, the problem is you contradict yourself

the first time you posted you stated " if they pay your med bills and you sue for more I hope you never have an accident" and in your next post you state "I belive in being reimbursed, but it has to be real and not rediculas"[/QUOTE by Lawngodfather].

So which is it,
do you think I should just get my medical bills paid as you stated in your first post.

or is my accident real and not REDICULOUS enough to warrant reimbursement as stated in your second post.

also if you read your first comment carefully it seems like it is directed towards me because you never say who it is directed towards and since I started this thread naturally everyone is going to assume you are talking to me and not someone else.

On your second post you correct this mistake by explaining that "The comment was not from what P&J said but someone else" Quote by LGF, but then you do the same thing and say
" I belive in being reimbursed, but it has to be real and not rediculas" so once again you never say who you are talking to so naturally everyone is going to assume it is directed towards me because this thread is about my accident.

On your Last post you try to insult me by saying I read this wrong when in fact you wrote it every time without explaining who you were talking to so maybe it was read the exact way you told it and you just don't coprehend what you are saying.

One last thing before I get in trouble again because of you, If I paid 10 cents for every word you misspelled in all your post's I would have to pay over $100 out so before you insult someones intelligence maybe you should learn to spell first.

[JasperStorm]

This thread gave me an idea, unfortunately the video surveillance camera caught me cutting the pump hose with a hacksaw, pouring a coffee cup of gas on my shirt, and running into the store flailing my arms.

Guess I'll have to buy more lottery tickets.

[brucec32]

I agree the guy deserves restitution. I hate the excess litigation in the US too, but sometimes people are indeed negligent and should pay up.

The reason this concept is so important is that repairing a fueling hose is SERIOUS BUSINESS. It needs to be done right, all the time, or people will get hurt. The company involved obviously hired someone and either did not train them sufficiently or he didn't care enough to do the job right. Only by facing a financial risk do companies ever have the incentive to be safe and sure.

This is a sign of the times. People run around, eager to count the money they receive, but giving short shrift to the idea of doing the work right. Go to any company and see how much the salesmen make vs. the operations people who get the work done. America has become a quick-buck Nation. Only when businesses see that this carries financial risks will they start taking their time, doing the job right, and charging accordingly.

My brother is an electrician and a growing part of his business is repairing faulty electrical work done on new homes today. Unfortunately, much of the work is done by the LOW BIDDER and it's just unsafe. My other brother is a home builder and his own home was wired with the wrong size wire! (by his hack electricians he chose over my brother based on their low price) Luckily my electrician brother happened to be visiting the job site and caught it. They had to rip it all out and start over.

People in the US are dying because of this trend towards 3rd world type shoddy workmanship. In Uganda, "good enough" may do. But not here. There is a huge problem in the US recently with deck collapses, of all things. All because we want our stuff done cheaper rather than better. People are hiring guys with zero engineering ability to design and build decks. One of my past neighbors was partially crippled by one of these collapses. His builder apparently liked to save money on getting his decks built. I assume he paid for that mistake in court later. So the courts do play their role.

[LAWNGODFATHER]

I don't care if I spellllllllllllllllllllled it correctly, you can't even quote something right.

But since you want to make this personal.

$40k a month from 2 crews I don't think so.

$7k for ins is that GL an WC combind? If it is one way or another you are full of cha cha on $40k a month or lieing to your ins provider.

You seem to be able to read the monitor ok, not perfectly but ok, so the eyes must not be bothering you too much.

Were you wearing your safety glasses while fueling?

One last thing before I get in trouble again because of you, If I paid 10 cents for every word you misspelled in all your post's I would have to pay over $100 out so before you insult someones intelligence maybe you should learn to spell first.

So I guess you act like you are back in high school again? I didn't insult your intelligence you are doing that quite well on your own.

BTW I am talking to you now just so you know that. Must be real easy to rattle your cage.

Good luck on what ever you decide to do.

Remsen1

I hope you really don't mean he should ONLY be reimbursed for his medical bills.

What about the pain? And suffering
What about the loss of work and related family hardship?
What about lingering effects/permanent damage?
What about nightmares

He should be reimbursed for all.

What's all that worth $10 $10,000 $1,000,000?

Isn't it people like you that have raises the ins rates for sueing for stuff just like that.

How much do you push for? How far do you push? When will it end?

This is why I carry 5 mil GL ins. Just for someone like you. And I hate to pay it, but guess what? People like that make me have to pay it.

Isn't this why we have so may jokes about lawyers.

Disclaimer (Remsen1 nothing personal)

[1grnlwn]

Jever pull your long rig in a gas station and have some moron park right in front of you so he could get his pack of cigs? I hate that! I hate gas stations! Let aim our anger at morons and gas stations.:cool:

Mark

[P&J Lawncare]

Lgf
I have never seen someone put on safety glasses at a gas station so get real.

I do large commercial accounts that pay me well for my services and I invite anyone who doubts my income to come and check out my buisiness.

Two crews can make you $40,000 per month thats only $833.00 per day for each crew and thats if they work 6 days per week. I have one account that pays $2,500 per cut and it only takes one day to do, I have another account that pays $2000 per cut and it takes less than a day to do so right there I make $4,500 in two days and I still have 4 more days to make $5,500 thats only $687.50 per crew (2 crews =1375 per day) for the next 4 days.

Maybe if you could actually talk to your crew instead of using hand signals to communicate you could be doing these kinds of numbers also.

Lgf you have a nice day :alien: :alien:

[RichR]

LGF.............as i read this post.........it seems that you are the one to be easily upset and take it personal.....maybe because of your relationship with P&J........anyway........you seem to make assumptions before you have facts.........and also...your comment about wearing safety glasses while fueling....is pathetic........it just looks like your upset cause some people on this post sort of dissed ya. anyway.....im no one....and i just found this posting to be quite intresting.

P&J............you deserve to be compensated well beyond simple medical bills............because........how do you know that there will not be permanent damage? (LGF seems to think you just fell down and got a boo boo on your knee).

The fact is.........yes......P&J may not be here today...because of someone else's hudge mistake.......that may of cost many lifes...

Sorry to get down on your LGF......( i find alot of your postings to be quite informative and usefull) i am not here to bash anyone.....just that i saw alot of emotional bs comming from your postings on this one.

Oh........by the way.....you attacted P&J's spelling ..........thats a pretty lame discourse for your postings.........thats why i said you are seem to be taking it personal.......

P&J.........i hope you will be ok.....and that you will get back on the job soon.......as i know what it is like to suffer from physical problems and not be able to run my manufacturing facility.

Thanks everyone that uses this forum, i have learned so much
i could of never learned from anywhere else........so quick!

[Got Grass?]

Go for it sue them. You deserve something for others mistakes.

Ok so the lady spills coffee on her lap & gets burned. Or the guy runs outta the store in a snowstorm & breaks his leg.
The kid reaches for a can of beans off the shelf & a few knock him on the head.
Thats their fault for not being carefull. People dont think about what thay are doing. Carefull? Why, if I get injured I'll just sue.

You had no control over your injury. You just happened to be at the wrog pump at the wrong time. If it wasnt you it would have been someone else. Possibly a kid or old lady who would have sufferd more serious injuries.

Heck, that gas could have spilled out onto someones hot muffler or engine & cought fire. Blowing up the entire gas station and killing everyone arround.

You, the gas station & everyone arround are quite lucky.


Mark, I know way to well what your talking about. Ya pull in & wait for a free pump. of cource the person at the farther pump finishes up sooner drives away & some moron comes in the wrong way pulls the hose over their car & starts filling up.
So ya pull up to the closer one, fill the truck. wating to pull up to fill trailer same thing... Then 20mins later when your finnaly filled up, tring to leave someone in a boat (old caddy, lincon) pulls up & blocks ya getting out for another 15 mins. Of cource the people behind you start honking. Thats usually the time when I go up to them & explane that if thay simply backed up I'd be able too & we'd both be happy. I swear 1/2 these cars out today dont come with "R" gear.

[Grass_Slayer]

ahhhh, to be on lgf's ignore list now that summer is here.

have u guys ver tried pulling ur trailer all the way up to the first pump? sometimes ur more in the way but ur not blockin 2 pumps. i only do that when the station is really busy though.

oh and many of the guys on here (including me sometimes) have extremely bad spelling, and even worse grammar!

[mowin]

Holey shait!! I need to check here more oftenI was going to call you in the morning and see if you wanted to do lunch. let me know if you want to... what station was it?


oh and Mike, how can you be such an ass??


~NaTe

[MOW ED]

the PLOW KID returns!!!!!!!!!

[mowin]

You got it :waving: :waving:

is that a bad thing Ed?


~NaTe

[MOW ED]

No, I was wondering where you were hiding!!!!!:cool:

[goodbeus]

Maybe if you could actually talk to your crew instead of using hand signals to communicate you could be doing these kinds of numbers also.

:rolleyes: :) :D :) :rolleyes: :) :D :D :D :D :D

good comeback

[LAWNGODFATHER]

See I left it all alone but since this is a my **** is bigger than your **** contest.

Time to pull out those tax forms!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am sorry, some one whom has accounts that pay that much and claim to have good typing and comunication skill does not say "I have one account that pays $2,500 per cut and it only takes one day to do, I have another account that pays $2000 per cut"

Maybe if you could actually talk to your crew instead of using hand signals to communicate you could be doing these kinds of numbers also.

I am doing more, so what's your point?

When you get a clue let us all know.


~NaTe at least I can be a big ass and don't have a big ass.

[P&J Lawncare]

you are a joke Lgf and I laugh every time you respond to this thread.
:D :D :D :D :D :D

anytime you want to compare our business's I will

I can't wait to meet everyone at the expo (especially you LGF)

[mowerconsultant]

P&J,
Is the 2500 a cut property the one I met you at, and you demoed the Super on ??
If so, that place is HUGE !!!!!
And he did mow it in one day........with all 60" mowers.......

Later
Pj

[David Haggerty]

Originally posted by mowerconsultant

If so, that place is HUGE !!!!!


Just how HUGE is it?? I want numbers..I want ACRES!!

and driving directions to the site, and a phone number and...

:blob2:



:blush: Sorry; all this talk about big bucks gets me excited.

[Husqman]

There is a real simple solution to this problem if everyone would go to full service stations instead of 7 elevens this would'nt happen. I also worked at a station for several years and had both diesel and gas sprayed in my face accidentally and both times a few hours of eye drops took care of it. Of course all situations are different.

[MOW ED]

Husqman,
I know your area is different than mine but I have 1 full service station in a 60 sq mile run. It is always busy. I prefer to mix my own 2 cycle and put my own gas in. It usually is no cost difference but I am confident in filling my tank. My first job was a pump jockey in the 70's when self service was the exception and not the rule.

This thread has become a little more than a commentary on pumping gas but I'm stickin with P&J as I see his situation happening to anyone. Onward------->>>>>>

[P&J Lawncare]

Mowerconsultant
thats the one and the other one is the new hospital that every one was after.

David
I can't remember how to get there but if I remember you will be the last person I tell hahahah!!! You are to close to me to be letting out all my secrets. Besides that's what 5 year contracts are for.

MOW ED
Thanks for the support