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LwnmwrMan22
04-23-2010, 10:44 PM
Why doesn't my Grandstand stay on hills?

I have hills I can run my 72" Kubota ZD331 on and not slide as much as this Grandstand does.

For small flat areas, I LOVE the GS. But it just doesn't work well at all on the steeper slopes that my Ferris DD would, or even what I can run my ZDs on.

Any ideas?

KPW LawnCare
04-23-2010, 10:46 PM
Use the walkbehind mode haha.

Pristine PM
04-23-2010, 11:13 PM
... all of mine hold the hills so so well. Are the hydro's in good shape?

LwnmwrMan22
04-24-2010, 08:57 AM
It's brand new, 8 hours.

Even if I point the front end up hill, it will still slide sideways across and down the hill.

I've already had to pull it out of the ditch 2 times.

delphied
04-24-2010, 09:21 AM
I dont believe you.

JohnnyRocker
04-24-2010, 09:26 AM
What size deck?

LwnmwrMan22
04-24-2010, 09:27 AM
If I didn't see it myself, running it myself, I would thinking my employees are morons.

It's BY FAR the worst WB I've ever tried to run on a hill.

I've got to believe there's something wrong with the machine, but I can't figure out what it is.

Much like an airplane flies in the wind, where they're trying to go straight, but have to point the nose of the plane to the side, that's how I have to go across the sides of hills.

Even then, the rear tires will start to slip and slide down the side of the hill.

Like I said, these are hills that I can borderline do with my ZTRs, but it's even worse with the GS.

LwnmwrMan22
04-24-2010, 09:38 AM
23 hp, 48" deck. 2009, all of the updates done from the shop.

I dealt directly with Toro on this unit, it was their display unit at the MN state fair last year.

badbartlby
04-24-2010, 09:39 AM
Mine does just fine. Make sure they are distributing their weight on the platform correctly mine will slide when I forget to do that.

LwnmwrMan22
04-24-2010, 09:43 AM
I'm not even on the platform, just walking behind it.

It's extremely quick on flat areas, even gentle slopes. I LOVE it for my smaller accounts (banks, small strip malls, etc) as the 60" ZTRs are almost too big to get around quickly without having grass everywhere.

I'm impressed with the cut, the stripe, the dispersal of clippings.

For some reason though it just wants to slide down the hill. I've tried with a full tank of fuel, then last time the tank was fairly empty.

It came within 4" of being washed on Thursday, and not by the power washer either, but the water in the drainage ditch at the bottom of the hill.

I had to get the ZD331 with a strap to pull it back up the hill.

badbartlby
04-24-2010, 09:54 AM
You are taking all the traction away by not being on the platform.

LwnmwrMan22
04-24-2010, 10:12 AM
It makes sense, because all of the weight is in front of the traction tires, which if you're on the platform, at least you distribute SOME weight behind there.

I'll give it a try.

badbartlby
04-24-2010, 10:16 AM
I rarely use mine as a walk behind, would probably end up running myself over, but I noticed that when I am not on the platform it slides around alot more.

LwnmwrMan22
04-24-2010, 10:20 AM
It would be the same as when the ZTRs have full fuel tanks, they hold better than when the tanks are empty.

Although some of my weight would be higher up than fuel tanks on a ZTR.

badbartlby
04-24-2010, 10:23 AM
It actually does pretty good when you get used to using that platform keeps you standing up straight and you get your foot planted straight underneath you. Kinda hard to explain.

lilweeds
04-24-2010, 07:04 PM
You have to stay on it. Don't get off. WB mode is more for going under tree limbs.

robertsturf
04-24-2010, 07:28 PM
You cannot use the walk-behind mode on hills. It throws the balance of the machine off. We have 2 52/23 and as long as you stay on the platforms no problems.

djagusch
04-24-2010, 09:23 PM
Ill have my orange one next Friday if you want to compare the two.
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LwnmwrMan22
05-03-2010, 08:30 PM
Thanks for the help everyone.

I finally got back around to the yard I had the most problems last Friday, and used it as a stander on the hill and not "wb mode".

It worked PERFECTLY.

I figured that there was something that I was doing wrong, and y'all helped me correct it.

Again, thanks.

coxslawncare
05-03-2010, 10:18 PM
I've tried a few standers and found that when you are doing a hill you need to hook the leg you have the least weight on around the pad you rest on, this allows all of your weight to be planted toward the tire that needs the most traction. Also stay on the platform