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MikeKle
04-28-2010, 11:18 PM
I mowed a few today that had tons of clover in it! What Ive noticed is, even if the yard has 5 days to dry out, the clover will still be wet!! it clogged up my exmarks almost instantly!

rcslawncare
04-28-2010, 11:38 PM
Yea, it sure does hold water in, also seems to make the tires spin and leave turf scuffs.

Cloud9Landscapes
04-29-2010, 12:05 AM
Fertilize with a high nitrogen fertilizer a couple times and the clover will soon be gone.

K-OS
04-29-2010, 12:06 AM
Clover is actually a Nitrogen lover. Have you tried Sarritor?

Razorblades
04-29-2010, 03:53 AM
Isn't Tremec supposed to be a broadleaf killer that won't hurt grasses?

Richard Martin
04-29-2010, 05:04 AM
Anything with 2,4-D in it will destroy Clover. Spray it and it will be drying up in a week and gone in 2.

McEwans Lawn Service
04-29-2010, 07:43 AM
2-4-d will not kill clover you need a brush killer in it. You need to really spray in the fall to kill clover you will spray all summer and not get it all killed.

Merkava_4
04-29-2010, 07:48 AM
My reel mower set at 00.00 inches will kill it. :weightlifter:

Richard Martin
04-29-2010, 08:05 AM
2-4-d will not kill clover

Somebody better tell the Clover then. I've been killing it for years with liquid Lesco Momentum.

http://www.google.com/search?q=does+2%2C4-d+kill+clover%3F&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1

MikeKle
04-29-2010, 10:33 AM
I dont have a fert license and most of the houses that have clover are properties where they dont spray, in fact nobody even lives there, they just keep the house and have it mowed. It looks like crap no matter what kind of mower you use on it also! I had a yard once that was entirely clover, glad I didnt have that one too long!

drumz2129
04-29-2010, 12:20 PM
I used Grazon P+D on a few test patches in the field last year. It wiped everything out other than the Saint Augustine and Bahia. This spring I tackled the lawn with it. I had some thick clover patches that were 8"+ tall They were yellowing by the end of the week and dried up with in 2 weeks. The Bermuda and Saint Augustine that I have in the yard has just about filled all the bare spots already.

http://www.dowagro.com/range/products/grazonPD.htm

Sammy
04-29-2010, 01:09 PM
Also, raise your cutting height.

Hoy landscaping
04-29-2010, 10:16 PM
i hate the clover. i almost rolled without ROPS today because of that ****. its so slippery. it clumps up and spins the tires. no matter how gentle you are with the turn you always scuff it. ive been making them purposely to kill the clover. i hate that stuff.

By Us Company
04-29-2010, 10:25 PM
TRIMEC will end all your clover VERY quick.

STIHL GUY
04-29-2010, 10:27 PM
clover sucks. its a pain to mow and it makes nice lawns look terrible if it has a few clover spots

theheisk
04-29-2010, 10:29 PM
So the only way to control clover is to spray? A high nitrogen fert will not smother it out? It is taking over my yard and I am kind of lerry about using a spray.
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By Us Company
04-29-2010, 10:50 PM
Just use Weed and Feed if you don't want to spray Trimec.

Richard Martin
04-30-2010, 04:27 AM
Just use Weed and Feed if you don't want to spray Trimec.

And the active ingrediant in most weed and feed is....

A drum roll please....

2,4-D

theheisk,

2,4-D can be applied either as a granular (weed and feed) or as a liquid. The liquid is faster and you stand a much better chance of killing all of the clover the first time around.

Merkava_4
04-30-2010, 07:43 AM
You gotta keep the water off the clover for 12 hours while the 2-4-D is on there.

David C.
04-30-2010, 07:45 AM
Whatever you do----DON'T fertilize the Clover----Clover loves fertilizer----it gives off fertlizer in the form of Nitrogen

I mow through a lot of Clover in the Spring---but when the weather starts to "hot up" in Summer ---- it isn't much a problem

Scagmower48
04-30-2010, 08:15 AM
Clover is actually a Nitrogen lover. Have you tried Sarritor?

Clover is not a N lover.

LCCaptain
04-30-2010, 08:28 AM
Clover does not need nitrogen to thrive because it produces its own.

Jay Ray
04-30-2010, 09:55 AM
I dont have a fert license and most of the houses that have clover are properties where they dont spray, in fact nobody even lives there, they just keep the house and have it mowed. It looks like crap no matter what kind of mower you use on it also! I had a yard once that was entirely clover, glad I didnt have that one too long!

I hit the highest clumps of clover with the trimmer first. Seems to help some.

theheisk
05-02-2010, 08:40 PM
Throwed the Triple 19 to my yard last Saturday and the clover is almost dried up.
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K-OS
05-02-2010, 08:46 PM
Sorry for the misinformation guys, clover may not like Nitrogen, but fertilizers can not kill Clover.

Up here 2, 4-D is banned so we use a chemical that's much stronger called Dicamba, Care needs to be taken when using it though. Works good so far, kill clover and even Violets.

Believe it or not, we have people that purposely plant clover here because of it's low maintenance.

Dan

Hoy landscaping
05-02-2010, 10:30 PM
clover is not low maintenance. it needs to be mowed 2 times as much as grass. it is a weed and it grows like one

Mowerman2112
05-02-2010, 11:31 PM
SpeedZone, kills clover no problem!

1993lx172
05-02-2010, 11:32 PM
I've gotten the best results by applying (this is on the yard at home I don't offer application services) Weed and Feed (granular) when the grass is wet, early in the morning before the dew burns off is the best time, so it sticks to the leaves where it is (at least from what I have seen) the most effective. I usually see the clover start to curl up and start wilting three days after and in seven days it's dead until next year. I also let the yard sit for a week before I cut it again to let do all it's going to do.

LushGreenLawn
05-03-2010, 12:03 AM
2-4-d will not kill clover you need a brush killer in it. You need to really spray in the fall to kill clover you will spray all summer and not get it all killed.

You have know clue what your talking about, I pray to god your not out applying pesticides. A brush killer in the lawn?

Pennington Lawncare
05-03-2010, 12:06 AM
Just use Weed and Feed if you don't want to spray Trimec.

That has worked for me in Tennessee.

McEwans Lawn Service
05-03-2010, 08:07 AM
You have know clue what your talking about, I pray to god your not out applying pesticides. A brush killer in the lawn?

You need to do some more research. Learn your chemicals there are allot of weeds in yards that 2-4-d will not kill. Start by reading the ingredients on Trimac and trimac plus. Think you need to go back to school. We spray 100s of acres of pasture with 2-4-d and it doesn't kill clover might wilt the leaves some but doesn't kill it. Go to your local co-op they can teach you about it they even have books with pictures of specific weeds and what you need to kill them.

Richard Martin
05-03-2010, 09:20 AM
McEwans is right. It's not the 2,4-D killing the clover. In the case of my favorite, Lesco Momentum FX, it's the Triclopyr that they mix in with the 2,4-D that's killing the clover.

My apologies.

Richard Martin
05-03-2010, 09:24 AM
http://www.ipm.iastate.edu/ipm/hortnews/2001/8-24-2001/weedylawn.html

LushGreenLawn
05-03-2010, 11:13 AM
McEwans is right. It's not the 2,4-D killing the clover. In the case of my favorite, Lesco Momentum FX, it's the Triclopyr that they mix in with the 2,4-D that's killing the clover.

My apologies.

Yes, but you wouldn't spray a brush killer in the lawn to kill it, you would spray something with Triclopyr. A Brush Killer is a kill all product. It is usually just a heavy mix of glysophate.

BTW, I kill clover all the time with cheap 3 way, and I'm positive its the good ole' amine 2,d-d thats killing it.

1grnlwn
05-03-2010, 11:45 AM
My 2 cents. Many formulations claim to kill clover. Many don't. High end 3-ways do the best. Momentum. Battleship 3 etc. Coperyilid (sp) was the best but is now banned (do to grass baggers). Many products need a second application about four weeks later. Remember if you are spot spraying to go a foot or two beyond the clover you can see.