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93Chevy
05-16-2010, 08:08 PM
I'm just wondering how much you guys value your employees? Do you treat them like you're "best asset" or do you believe all they're good for is causing problems? Just wanted to see how some of you view your employees.

Also, another tricky question...if you have a terrible mowing account, just one that sucks to mow, and an employee threatened to quit if you didn't drop the account, how would you handle that?

tjlco
05-16-2010, 08:58 PM
I think I treat my guys well, without them I would be making less money for sure...however the problem I find is when they think they are better than you or can't be replaced....I have a guy like that, thinks he's God's gift to trimmer men or something. Now don't get me wrong he's good, but can replaced tomorrow if need be...

Oh and I think in this economy, no employee is going to quit over 1 account, and I suppose this would depend on account....they are easily replaced...

nepatsfan
05-16-2010, 09:04 PM
I am very fortunate to have good employees. That being said, I dont think a good employee will threaten to quit if you dont dump an account. I never let them get to comfortable and point out shortcomings as well as praise. I find that when all you do is praise them they feel as though they are irreplacable. I give out bonuses for jobs done ahead of schedule.

MrRob
05-16-2010, 09:10 PM
Don't let your employees run your business. I'd make him mow that account until he quit! I doubt that's the only reAson he wants to quit.
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MrRob
05-16-2010, 09:16 PM
Just to add we went thru a huge turnover this year. our best and longest employee decided he was more valueable than everyone else and tried to call off sick a lot. We had to make an example out him and let him go. I went thru a few days training new guys and thought what a metals I made. After a few tough weeks we found 2 guys that are leaps and bounds over our old guy. So needless to say, everyone is replacable.
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grassman177
05-16-2010, 11:22 PM
they are very replaceable and two of our guys found out in their last meeting on their performance and behavior the other day. we had applications in hand to show them how fast (less than one day) others are willing to fill the money making position they have currently.

no one tells me how to run the business, one of our best who has been around for 5 years was starting to do this and we had a very blunt sit down with him and everyone else near the start of the season and it has been better ever since.

93Chevy
05-16-2010, 11:26 PM
Thanks for all the replies. I was looking for a differing range of opinions...but it seems as though so far, anyway, everybody feels about the same. Necessary, but replaceable. I'm a few credits shy of graduating with a degree in human resource management. I've already taken all the "hard" classes, I just have to make up a few core credits online by December. Buy anyway, it's interesting to compare what they teach us at school to the real world.

topsites
05-17-2010, 12:08 AM
Also, another tricky question...if you have a terrible mowing account, just one that sucks to mow, and an employee threatened to quit if you didn't drop the account, how would you handle that?

I wouldn't force my employee to do something I wouldn't touch myself,
so either I drop the account or they can quit and I'll do it.

So which one's it going to be, you want me to do it to see if we should drop the account, or are you quitting?
Damn straight, I lay my cards on the table.

Thanks for all the replies. I was looking for a differing range of opinions...but it seems as though so far, anyway, everybody feels about the same. Necessary, but replaceable. I'm a few credits shy of graduating with a degree in human resource management. I've already taken all the "hard" classes, I just have to make up a few core credits online by December. Buy anyway, it's interesting to compare what they teach us at school to the real world.

Perhaps you could have said as much to begin with, I'm wondering if I'm supposed to feel
like I've been tricked and deceived into giving out the answer but perhaps that's not the case...?

And no, employees are neither necessary nor replaceable, to me most of them
are completely worthless, I have no employees and at one time I would have
hired the right one if they ever came along but I got tired of weeding so I've
been doing it all myself for the past 4-5 years and don't intend on hiring ever again.

Now there's a real world view to take back to that dang class room of yours lol.

93Chevy
05-17-2010, 12:24 AM
Perhaps you could have said as much to begin with, I'm wondering if I'm supposed to feel
like I've been tricked and deceived into giving out the answer but perhaps that's not the case...?

And no, employees are neither necessary nor replaceable, to me most of them
are completely worthless, I have no employees and at one time I would have
hired the right one if they ever came along but I got tired of weeding so I've
been doing it all myself for the past 4-5 years and don't intend on hiring ever again.

Now there's a real world view to take back to that dang class room of yours lol.

I wasn't trying to trick anybody into giving away secrets. Justed wanted to get an idea of how different employers viewed their most valuable asset. :waving:

93Chevy
02-18-2011, 05:19 PM
Just thought I might brings this thread back for a few new opinions.

zturncutter
02-18-2011, 05:33 PM
"Justed wanted to get an idea of how different employers viewed their most valuable asset"

They are not NECESSARILY your most valuable asset, depends on your operation. Automation and organization can make you a lot of dough in many different industries including this one. Think Ford, GM or any other modern manufacturing or service industry.

aarons lawn
02-18-2011, 11:58 PM
always treat them well but make sure they know whos boss grab them lunch here and there toss them a small bouns 50 or a 100 bucks but when they piss you off there like equipment when they break you get new ones

PTP
02-19-2011, 12:25 AM
I value my employees quite highly. I believe that I pay at or near the top of the scale around here. I have heard quite a few second hand reports (and a few first hand as well) about how my employees like to work for me.

However, they do not give me those sort of ultimatums. I will bend over backwards for them but if they pull any stunts like that then I will fire them. They know that because they have all seen me do it.

pinto n mwr
02-19-2011, 12:44 AM
being an "employee" for 17 years now I have a unique perspective of you "owners".... you are always right?!

PTP
02-19-2011, 12:51 AM
being an "employee" for 17 years now I have a unique perspective of you "owners".... you are always right?!

It's one of the privileges that comes along with investing thousands of hours and hundreds of thousands of dollars into a business. Try to humor us.

greenchoppers
02-19-2011, 12:56 AM
being an "employee" for 17 years now I have a unique perspective of you "owners".... you are always right?!

If the man signing your check says he is right, either agree with him or start looking for a new job. I disagreed with one of my bosses one time and got replaced right quick like.

Even if the boss is wrong, you can try to tell him the correct way but if you blatantly disagree, see first sentence of first paragraph.

It is usually best to let the boss figure on his/her own that he/she was wrong.

zturncutter
02-19-2011, 09:09 AM
being an "employee" for 17 years now I have a unique perspective of you "owners".... you are always right?!

It's one of the privileges that comes along with investing thousands of hours and hundreds of thousands of dollars into a business. Try to humor us.



Being an employee for 25 years and an owner for over 25 years I have seen it from both sides of the desk and I stand by my original post. As an employee you will get your paycheck at the end of the week even if you did nothing to make the company profit, at times I have made the company thousands and for different reasons not been able to get mine.