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bob
07-11-2002, 04:29 PM
What a beast! It's fast and big, including the price, $14,000. The front suspension absorbed a lot of the bumps and made the ride smooth. Since the lawns have drie up, I couldn't cut any grass with it. The engine sound is like no other. It really sounds like a Catapiller bulldozer! Big rear tires- 26"ers.

rodfather
07-11-2002, 05:01 PM
Know whatcha mean, Bob...I demoed it for a couple of days from the big Ferris Distributor near me (I run a bunch of Ferris WBs). That baby has got more torque than I could imagine when I first tried it.

They say that Cat. engine should do 6000 hours no sweat before needing any major overhaul...h***, the deck will be falling apart before those hours come up.

You're right, 14K+ is a bit dicey.

Mowingman
07-11-2002, 08:31 PM
rodfather,
That must be a cheap copy of a Cat. engine if it will only go 6000 hrs. All the Cat. engines I have been around were just getting broken in good at 6000hrs. I would expact more like 10,000 hrs out of it.:D

mowerconsultant
07-11-2002, 08:47 PM
Look closely at that cat engine.......
It says or did say Perkins........

Mowingman
07-11-2002, 08:56 PM
Mowerconcultant,
That would explain the 6000hr statement then. It is probably from the family of engines they use in Cat. forklifts.:(

mowerconsultant
07-11-2002, 09:03 PM
Yeah,
Cat owns Perkins......
They bought them in 97 I believe

rodfather
07-11-2002, 09:08 PM
Ah, good point Mowingman...probably (most likely) my mistake!

I think the 6000 hour point is where you would "start" to think about major overhaul...dunno...never had something last that long.

r

Doc Pete
07-11-2002, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by bob
What a beast! It's fast and big, including the price, $14,000. The front suspension absorbed a lot of the bumps and made the ride smooth. Since the lawns have drie up, I couldn't cut any grass with it. The engine sound is like no other. It really sounds like a Catapiller bulldozer! Big rear tires- 26"ers.

I just hope riders don't evolve like our cars. A good rider is one thing, but $14,000 just to cut grass........Whew!!!!! There will come a point when the payments will be more than you can justifiably charge the customer.
Pete

rodfather
07-11-2002, 09:12 PM
Hummm, good point Pete...I was just thinking the exact thing!

Mowingman
07-11-2002, 09:52 PM
I do not know how they are going to sell that machine when Grasshopper, Exmark, and Dixie Chopper all have good, proven, diesel machines that sell for considerably less money. I guess if someone just has to have a Ferris, or if Ferris is the only brand locally avail., they may sell a few. As Switchless said, you can only charge customers so much. Heck, even governmental agencies will likely not buy at that price. Gov. agency pricing here in Texas for Grasshoppers is at least 2000 cheaper for a similar machine and Toro Groundmasters with diesels are sold to govt. agencies for around 10,500.:)

Doc Pete
07-11-2002, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by rodfather
Hummm, good point Pete...I was just thinking the exact thing!

I guess us Baskingridgers and Clintonites think about the same:p

rodfather
07-11-2002, 10:01 PM
Pete...

ah yes...just wish it was a little (no, a whole lot) less expensive to live in.

And they wonder why we charge what we do...LMAO

bob
07-16-2002, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by bob
What a beast! It's fast and big

I got the brochue today. The 1500cc diesel mower weighs 1908lbs and the 1000cc gas weighs 1750.

Wayward
07-16-2002, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by bob


I got the brochue today. The 1500cc diesel mower weighs 1908lbs and the 1000cc gas weighs 1750.


Wow! And I thought my Grasshopper 428D with 61" deck was heavy at 1360 lbs.

awm
07-16-2002, 08:23 PM
believe id end up in somebodies septic ,
out here in the country. with that kinda wt.

Doc Pete
07-16-2002, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by awm
believe id end up in somebodies septic ,
out here in the country. with that kinda wt.

WELL>>>>> in the 60's, we when to a town sewer system and the septics were supposed to be filled. About 10 years ago the wife was mowing the back with the tractor. Finished it and we went for a Dairy Queen. Came back and there was an 8 foot circle, 10 feet deep in the back yard. 2 Weeks later, after doing the back yard, we went out to diner, and came back to another hole the same size.
OOP's, the contractor got lazy............My wife would have been killed on the tractor, twice. Thank God, he was watching..............
Pete

awm
07-17-2002, 07:37 AM
yep ,know what u mean. hes taken a hand several times in my life ,that i know of. probably a lot more that i dont.:)

PerfectCut
07-25-2002, 09:50 AM
I am sorry to say that the engine is really a Perkins engine. Cat purchased Perkins back about 5-6 years ago. If that was a Cat engine they would be promoting at least 10000 hrs on that engine. So if you are looking for a high quality diesel engine that is going to give you more live then 6000 hours you really need to look at Kubota, and the Grasshopper 428D and 928D2 would be a good place to start.
And the list prices on the Grasshoppers I believe are in the 14000 range, not the purchase prices, but Yes I do agree prices are getting out of hand.

Phil Egnatz
07-25-2002, 10:07 AM
i saw the is5000 at expo it looks great i love cat and i would definetly buy a is5000 it will be my next mower:blob3:

Richard Martin
07-25-2002, 10:58 AM
Bob wrote:

The 1500cc diesel mower weighs 1908lbs and the 1000cc gas weighs 1750.

And I thought the IS4000 was heavy at around 1,400 pounds. My Dixie weighs in at a slim 960 pounds. The hydraulics must surely take a beating after a few years of trying to pull that kind of weight around all day.

TLS
07-25-2002, 11:08 AM
Heavy hitters.

They would rut up almost all of my lawns in the spring. There are compact utility tractors lighter than that!

gorrell
07-25-2002, 02:39 PM
Perkins and Caterpillar diesel engine divisions were started within months of each other in late 1931 and early 1932. Although Caterpillar now owns Perkins, Perkins is still the largest manufacturer of diesel engines worldwide. I believe the choice of Ferris to go with this motor is very commendable as it should easily outlast the rest of the machine..........Lynn

Doc Pete
07-25-2002, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by Richard Martin
Bob wrote:

The 1500cc diesel mower weighs 1908lbs and the 1000cc gas weighs 1750.

And I thought the IS4000 was heavy at around 1,400 pounds. My Dixie weighs in at a slim 960 pounds. The hydraulics must surely take a beating after a few years of trying to pull that kind of weight around all day.

Here in NJ, if you have a wet spring you "ain't" mowing with that monster, unless you want gutters in the bowling lanes.:p
Pete

rodfather
07-25-2002, 10:20 PM
Heck Pete...

...my Toro Groundsmaster with the vac system tops out at 2250 lbs.

And that is without my fat azz or any leaves/clippings in the rear 44 gallon barrel.

Add all that it Pete and see what kind of ruts you can leave...LOL

Doc Pete
07-25-2002, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by rodfather
Heck Pete...

...my Toro Groundsmaster with the vac system tops out at 2250 lbs.

And that is without my fat azz or any leaves/clippings in the rear 44 gallon barrel.

Add all that it Pete and see what kind of ruts you can leave...LOL

Most of us forget 3/4 years ago, when we "had" to mow in the rain. Weve been in a drought for the last 3 years, and those big lazers are still leaving rutts. I remember even my bobcat at 400 lbs, started leaving marks on the lawn way back.
Oh, just what percentage of weight does your "fat ass" add. Just wondering:) :)
Pete

rodfather
07-26-2002, 06:05 AM
Bout 190, I think???

But wait a couple of months and then I will have my "winter coat" back on (if ya know what I mean). LOL