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Walk Behind Metro
05-29-2010, 07:22 PM
A high quality moderately price walk behind 25-30 inch swath. Something your average joe can mow his large yard quickly with a nice finish. The mower should last 10-15 years if taken care of.

This mower should run high horsepower with a top notch engine like Honda or Kohler??? It should mulch tough grasses without having to slow down more than 10% of top speed. Additionally it should handle moist grass the same way.

Does anyone make anything like this? If they dont why cant they?

Discuss!!:)

fredmullegun
05-29-2010, 07:40 PM
What is moderately priced?

mdlwn1
05-29-2010, 08:00 PM
They dont make it because only you and 4 other people would buy it.......

Walk Behind Metro
05-29-2010, 08:09 PM
What is moderately priced?


How about $1,300. About 400 bucks more than a good 21 inch swath walk behind.

JB1
05-29-2010, 08:10 PM
How about $1,300. About 400 bucks more than a good 21 inch swath walk behind.


Get busy, you could be that someone.

Walk Behind Metro
05-29-2010, 08:14 PM
They dont make it because only you and 4 other people would buy it.......



HMMM. You dont think something like that would have crossover commercial applications? Would it not appeal to guy who mows his own lawn, but likes the koolest thing on the block?

LushGreenLawn
05-29-2010, 08:15 PM
$1300 would barly buy a bog kawi or kohler engine...

Robert Pruitt
05-29-2010, 08:22 PM
Ha!ha!ha!ha! Duh

mbrew
05-29-2010, 08:28 PM
A little bigger than you want and it has a Briggs engine, but close (http://www.cubcadet.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/category2_10051_14101_1210164_1210164_600000_-1_image).There's also the much maligned Exmark 26"

shovelracer
05-29-2010, 08:36 PM
I have a toro 32 belt drive that does just that. Paid 1800 4 years ago and although it it not used a whole lot it is essential as it is easily 3 times faster that a propelled 21. We mainly use it around pools.

Walk Behind Metro
05-29-2010, 08:40 PM
$1300 would barly buy a bog kawi or kohler engine...


Even something like an 8-9 horsepower?

Walk Behind Metro
05-29-2010, 08:42 PM
A little bigger than you want and it has a Briggs engine, but close (http://www.cubcadet.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/category2_10051_14101_1210164_1210164_600000_-1_image).There's also the much maligned Exmark 26"


I am the present not so proud owner of a Metro 26.

The briggs thing would worry me.

W.L.M.
05-29-2010, 08:46 PM
scag sw 32?

Walk Behind Metro
05-29-2010, 08:48 PM
I have a toro 32 belt drive that does just that. Paid 1800 4 years ago and although it it not used a whole lot it is essential as it is easily 3 times faster that a propelled 21. We mainly use it around pools.

is the walk speed pretty good?

Walk Behind Metro
05-29-2010, 08:49 PM
scag sw 32?

Big money. Three grand buys a lot of lawn care? I have heard that mower smashes through tough grass. I like it!

Did scag ever make a 28 swath?

yardguy28
05-29-2010, 08:56 PM
HMMM. You dont think something like that would have crossover commercial applications? Would it not appeal to guy who mows his own lawn, but likes the koolest thing on the block?

no that wouldn't make it in the commercial world.

in most applications if a 36" mower won't fit nothing but a 21" will.

also you'd be hard pressed to use a mower commercially and get 10 to 15 years out of it.

i don't know about the rest of the commercial guys on here but for me i don't mess with mulching mowers. my 21 incher does have a mulch plug i use because about the only time i use it is a few spots on a few yards that are to large to string trim but i can't get to it with my 52".

i side discharge or bag. there's to many variables to mulching. you can't cut mroe than a third of the height, you can't mow when it's wet, etc. i can do both those things with side discharging the lawn still looks great.

topsites
05-29-2010, 08:57 PM
Well yeah I've been wanting them to build me a car just like a Ferrari but for
say under 20,000, so far I haven't had much luck either.

BINKY1902
05-29-2010, 09:10 PM
Sarlo has a 26" and a 30" mower, the one with the tall bicycle tires on the back. They also have the swivel wheel kit for the front. I have thought about getting the 26". I think you can get one with a 9hp honda or a 11.5 briggs.

Walk Behind Metro
05-30-2010, 10:35 AM
Sarlo looks interesting. They even make a diesel. Searches here and on google show nothing but positivity. I dont know anything about the 11.5 briggs.

American made and in business since 1935. Prices seem reasonable for the horsepower you get.

I love diesels. The diesel option is a Yanmar. they make great engines. i dont mow commercial so I dont need the diesel. They say that the diesel will run 4 hours on one gallon.

Something else impressive is that there is a parts schematic on every one of their mowers right on the website. easy to find and order parts.

Yard-Dawg
05-30-2010, 12:37 PM
This might be the answer to your needs!

http://www.billygoat.com/site/intro.aspx?pid=19

I think the goats are a good machine....there is lots of guys that use the goat vacuums.

dishboy
05-30-2010, 12:49 PM
I am building that mower, only a timed 33"deck, floating like a walker , not hanging. Already built a similar 42" but need a 33 for small gates and small uneven turf. where the 42 is just to much mower to clear the lousy fine grading jobs on 500 sq ft sections.

Walk Behind Metro
05-30-2010, 05:44 PM
where do you get the deck? what kind of engine are you gonna stack on it?

Walk Behind Metro
05-30-2010, 05:54 PM
Yard Dawg. I almost bought one of those, instead I bought the Metro 26. At the time the Billy Goat had a 8.5 hp briggs on it. I did not really like the briggs.

Now the Billy Goat has a 6.5 hp Honda. I like Honda. But the 6.5 Kawasaki seems weak on my Metro 26. I would like a bigger engine on the Billy Goat. The walk speed is only 3.3. I want to move the hell out. Hell I would prefer to jog my big ass behind the mower if it can go that fast. I could stand to lose a few lb's myself!!!!!

I called Billy Goat the other day. I figured, small company . Maybe they could modify one for me with a lil bigger powerplant. They said no go. They went to the Honda for all state carb compliant. I dont want another mower that I have to wait on.

Walk Behind Metro
05-30-2010, 05:59 PM
The sarlo looks like something that could be pulled by a horse. But info gathered on the net indicates that that son of a gun will smash through tough grass and high weeds pretty easily. There was one negative comment I found and someone from Sarlo addressed it.

mbrew
05-30-2010, 06:43 PM
I am building that mower, only a timed 33"deck, floating like a walker , not hanging. Already built a similar 42" but need a 33 for small gates and small uneven turf. where the 42 is just to much mower to clear the lousy fine grading jobs on 500 sq ft sections.

Those sound like interesting projects. I'd love to see details.

Mike

Hoy landscaping
05-30-2010, 07:01 PM
they call that an entrepreneur

shovelracer
05-30-2010, 07:15 PM
is the walk speed pretty good?

Its a 5 speed so it is whatever you need. 2 is a casual walk, 3 is a fast walk, 4 is jogging, and 5 is a full out run. I like 2 since most of our uses for it are highly detailed and it doesnt break a sweat. We had a velke on it and it pulled fine. We took it off because the areas we were needing it were just too tight. We also use it for the first few cuts of new lawns sometimes. At the time the price bothered me because we only had 2 uses for it, but it has allowed us to take new accounts that guys with large mowers cant do and do not want to push mow. It has been a good investment.

flatland-4-life
05-30-2010, 10:04 PM
I understand what Walk Behind Metro is asking here.

I think there is a need for a Fast propelling, nice cutting 26 inch mower.
I would have bought one a long time ago
and done all my small city yards with it.

I know most of you on here have built up your business to the point where
you do not even bid on these small gated homes, but there is still a need to cut them fast for some of us. I would have bought the Exmark 26 myself but I was warned it was a bad deal in time.

A fast moving 26 inch on the 11 yards I have to use my 21 inch on would save me lots of time. Heck I even made a post about finding the fastest propelling 21inch.
It might not be the best seller but I too think there is a need.

N.TX
05-31-2010, 12:41 AM
I agree why cant they just make a 21 style mower that is about 24-26 inches wide. I know exmark makes one but from what I hear it is junk. I love the toro 21s so why is it so hard for them to perfect the 26 inch mower?

lawnboy dan
05-31-2010, 08:55 AM
has any one mentined that real pos snapper 26? another real turky. get a toro 32 and be done !

cgaengineer
05-31-2010, 09:52 AM
HMMM. You dont think something like that would have crossover commercial applications? Would it not appeal to guy who mows his own lawn, but likes the koolest thing on the block?

Sounds like he needs a Metro 26!:rolleyes:

larrylaverne
05-31-2010, 11:18 AM
world lawn / 28"cut / briggs or honda / dual belt drive / 3 speed /seems like a pretty heavy built mower for 1300.00 / no gators available at that time so i past on the mower till i do find some gators for it.

Richard Martin
05-31-2010, 11:25 AM
Just send me a brand new 32" commercial walkbehind and $1500 and I'll send you back a 28" commercial walkbehind. It's not that hard to accomplish. Just notch the tractor frame so you can put the belts and brakes inside of the frame and build a deck.

dishboy
05-31-2010, 12:35 PM
Just send me a brand new 32" commercial walkbehind and $1500 and I'll send you back a 28" commercial walkbehind. It's not that hard to accomplish. Just notch the tractor frame so you can put the belts and brakes inside of the frame and build a deck.

What blade length & configuration to get a 28" because if they are not timed so the mower is compact and positioned in identical locations and with a identical wheelbase for both sides of the mower the cut will never match the contour attributes of a 21" . A 30"-36" deck will accomplish this if it is timed, compact and floats like a walker. A 42" in 85-90 percent of applications. Send me a PM with a email address I have a mower you might like to see, using your timed 36" you could put together a incredible machine on the cheap.

Walk Behind Metro
05-31-2010, 04:03 PM
Since we have some technical minds shown up here. What could I drop on my Metro 26 to give it some guts?

Thinking hard about sarlo 26 with 11.5 briggs. I bet it kicks a.

Walk Behind Metro
05-31-2010, 04:04 PM
Sounds like he needs a Metro 26!:rolleyes:


Yeah. And get all that fine Exmark customer service!!

cgaengineer
05-31-2010, 04:15 PM
Yeah. And get all that fine Exmark customer service!!

Chris: this Exmark mower just isn't cutting.
Exmark: is the engine running?
Chris: yes but its bogging down badly on thick bermuda lawns.
Exmark: you need to replace your lawn with thinner turf or stop fertilizing.
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Walk Behind Metro
05-31-2010, 04:27 PM
^^^ LOL.

They told me to mow twice a week. LOL> And this is not some phone mope. This was the big bosses , in the over 500G a year pay category.

GrassIsGreenerLawnCare
05-31-2010, 04:46 PM
i was gonna say the toro 32" proline. paid $1000 for mine. had a 13hp kohler command pro. it was enough HP for that little mower. it did bog down slightly in really tall thick wet grass but what 32 doesnt. u could even use a sulky w/ it. i hate the t-bar, and its just too damn small. i know it doesnt sound like much of an increase in width, but a 36" cuts alot quicker and the extra 4" really does make a big difference! if u want sumthin cheaper than that....ur gonna have to buy like a cub cadet 33" homeowner or a gravely 34" homeowner. is that what ur lookin for?

Richard Martin
05-31-2010, 05:05 PM
What blade length & configuration to get a 28" because if they are not timed so the mower is compact and positioned in identical locations and with a identical wheelbase for both sides of the mower the cut will never match the contour attributes of a 21" . A 30"-36" deck will accomplish this if it is timed, compact and floats like a walker. A 42" in 85-90 percent of applications. Send me a PM with a email address I have a mower you might like to see, using your timed 36" you could put together a incredible machine on the cheap.

Double blade 28". No it won't contour like a 21 will but then a 48, 60 and 72 won't contour like a 28.

Walk Behind Metro
05-31-2010, 05:28 PM
i was gonna say the toro 32" proline. paid $1000 for mine. had a 13hp kohler command pro. it was enough HP for that little mower. it did bog down slightly in really tall thick wet grass but what 32 doesnt. u could even use a sulky w/ it. i hate the t-bar, and its just too damn small. i know it doesnt sound like much of an increase in width, but a 36" cuts alot quicker and the extra 4" really does make a big difference! if u want sumthin cheaper than that....ur gonna have to buy like a cub cadet 33" homeowner or a gravely 34" homeowner. is that what ur lookin for?

cub cadet quality scares me. Not real keen on Toro/Exmark with my last buying experience. I want simple, muscle,speed, no frills. I dont mind wrestling with it. I just do my own yard.

Still looking hard at sarlo. Cant wait til they open up tomorrow, will call them. They sell to institutions and such, prisons,schools.............

lifetree
05-31-2010, 07:26 PM
This might be the answer to your needs !

http://www.billygoat.com/site/intro.aspx?pid=19

I think the goats are a good machine ...

I think this would be the answer to his needs ... I own both the Billy Goat 24" High Wheel mower and the 33" finish mower (which they discontinued) !! Both of them are tough machines ... specifically, the 24" high wheel mower is a good finish mower as well. This would fill the bill also because it has a kawasaki engine.

Robert Pruitt
05-31-2010, 08:18 PM
world lawn / 28"cut / briggs or honda / dual belt drive / 3 speed /seems like a pretty heavy built mower for 1300.00 / no gators available at that time so i past on the mower till i do find some gators for it.

just open up, or put in a bushing in the hole. is the right lenght available?

Walk Behind Metro
05-31-2010, 10:00 PM
I think this would be the answer to his needs ... I own both the Billy Goat 24" High Wheel mower and the 33" finish mower (which they discontinued) !! Both of them are tough machines ... specifically, the 24" high wheel mower is a good finish mower as well. This would fill the bill also because it has a kawasaki engine.

I wish that was the one. It only has a 3.3 mph walk speed. The 6.5 horse Kawa is what they put on 21's. Im looking for something to kick grass ass.

lawnboy dan
06-01-2010, 07:41 AM
another one that thinks fast is the answer.

macgyver_GA
06-01-2010, 10:24 AM
A little bigger than you want and it has a Briggs engine, but close (http://www.cubcadet.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/category2_10051_14101_1210164_1210164_600000_-1_image).There's also the much maligned Exmark 26"


Has anyone actually seen one of these at home depot. I looked at one, they have a really shallow deck. the two handle controls you see aren't brakes like a traditional walk behind. One is blade control and the other is the drive engagement. You have to physically turn the thing which I can imagine might be difficult for the average homeowner to hold on a slope. Price isn't bad though.
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Walk Behind Metro
06-01-2010, 04:41 PM
Sarlo may the winner. They can put a Honda 13 horse on thier 26 or 30 inch.

How fast is 4.1 miles per hour? Is that a good walk pace?

Jay Ray
06-01-2010, 07:07 PM
3.5 mph is a fast pace on foot on a hot day. That's 3rd gear on my Metro 32, and 4th gear is 4.1 mph which I find to be very fast, sulky fast.