View Full Version : pb 770t replaces br 600 junk

05-31-2010, 09:26 AM
got my new echo pb 770t blower. wow! this thing is a beast! my stihl br 600 was sent back to the stihl factory in virginia beach because a gold cert. tech couldnt fix it. i know six different guys that have the br 600 and only one of them is happy with the blower. they do not put out what stihl claims and many of them are not running at the spec rpm of 7200! this echo is incredible and i am very impressed. anyone else notice that the eb 802 specs have dropped on shindiawas web site?

lawnboy dan
05-31-2010, 09:48 AM
the br600 unreliable? who could imagine a sthil product with problems

05-31-2010, 10:12 AM
yup wish i never bought into the 4 mix hype! running amsoil saber in the pb 770 and not even a puff of smoke! now that it is breaking in it has even more power and the fuel use has went down. echo is gonna sell a bunch of these

05-31-2010, 10:31 AM
How much time is on the blower? We have 2 BR600's and a old BR420.

05-31-2010, 11:21 AM
used just around my home. not abused at all. always ran 89 octane blah blah blah. wont run at spec rpm. gold cert. tech was great but finally threw in the towel. he said alot of people dont even realize that their blower is not running right. spec is 7200 rpm to get rated output. i still have an old br 400 that runs great. no way these 4 mix motors are gonna last like that!

05-31-2010, 11:59 AM
I read all the threads on pros and cons Stil vs shindy then went to a stil dealer to check one out.He had one of those 4 stroke in for repairs and he starts badmouthing the owner(doesn't use the right mix,doesn't maintain it yada,yada)The thing is I know the owner of the stil and he takes care of his equipment.Right then I knew that the technology is too new and unproven(as has been stated on this site by many posters) and I'm not going to be the guinea pig who tests it out.So I went to a Shindy dealer and ask him about the 802 he says Shindy tried the 4 stroke but couldn't get the bugs worked out so they went back to the time tested 2 stroke cause it's much more reliable.So I bought the Shindy and am !00% satisfied,starts first pull every time.And as Forrest Gump would say ,that's all I have to say about that!

Richard Martin
05-31-2010, 12:09 PM
There is nothing new about the 4 Mix. It's been around since 2003 and the BR600 has been around since at least 2005 because that's the year I bought the one I'm still using. There will always be people that have trouble with any brand of equipment. I don't care what the brand is, there's going to be problems. There are significantly more satisfied users of 4 Mix engines than there are haters or Stihl wouldn't be able to sell them.

05-31-2010, 02:34 PM
I am on my 3rd br600 and never had a problem with them

05-31-2010, 03:48 PM
+1 for the 600, they are awesome and keep coming back for more year after year.

4 seasons lawn&land
05-31-2010, 04:07 PM
Echo and red max are my first choices. Have a big R.M. blower and Echo attatchment machine. Both great but the red max killed a carb once.

If I had $$ to blow I would buy several before 4 jokes are all thats available.

05-31-2010, 04:45 PM
i dont like the stihl 4 mix at all either, but we have the 750 echo blowers and theya re super good, the 770 are just upgraded and better yet. i cant wait till my 750s are dead to get a new 770, but at the rate we have with hand helds lasting, it will be a few more years!

05-31-2010, 04:52 PM
the br600 unreliable? who could imagine a sthil product with problems

Hahahaha, that just made my day.

Provided of course that it was sarcastic, which I'm guessing it was.

05-31-2010, 08:27 PM
check the rpms on your br 600s fellas. you may be disappointed. like i said one outta five isnt too good! i totally bought into the 4 mix stuff, fs 110r km110 kombi and the 600 that is now back at the factory. anxious to see what if anything stihl is gonna do for me. no loaner or anything so thats why i grabbed a pb 770t. i ve used some of the others and this echo impresses me.

lawnboy dan
06-01-2010, 08:48 AM
i bought a few 4 mix to test them out for myself. some sthil -some shindawia -so far not at all impressed .

06-01-2010, 09:01 AM
inconsistant performance for sure. im done with the stuff with valves until i cant get a two stroke anymore! i bet you my br 600 has spent two months in the shop since i got it and now is at the factory with me having no clue what is going on with it. i thought about selling it when i get it back but i dont want to stick anybody with it. probably give it away to a family member i guess.

06-01-2010, 06:04 PM
I think I would rave about a new SUPER blower ( I call those with 700+cfm 200+mph blowers) only after two years of use and have good feedback from lots of people.

So far the only one seems to has all possitive reviews is the RM 8001, but look at the price and the weight!!!! I won't even be so sure about the Shindy EB802 until a year later after people have over two years on it.

Glenn Lawn Care
06-01-2010, 06:08 PM
[QUOTE=jricker;3586775]always ran 89 octane QUOTE]

you are suppose to run 92 octane or higher. i have all stihl hand helds and they have never faileds me yet. either has my shindawia le242!

Richard Martin
06-01-2010, 06:15 PM
[QUOTE=jricker;3586775]always ran 89 octane QUOTE]

you are suppose to run 92 octane or higher. i have all stihl hand helds and they have never faileds me yet. either has my shindawia le242!

Stihl specs 89 octane which is what I use.

06-01-2010, 08:24 PM
I have a Stihl BR600 that is around five years old. All I have ever run in it is 93 octane and Stihl Ultra(white bottle) oil. Dealer put a carb rebuild kit on it about two weeks ago and that was the first time it had ever been in for repair.

06-02-2010, 01:28 PM
89 octane is all thats required and i know about the famous bottle of stihl oil. if the oil was so important to the blower why didnt stihl send out a letter to everybody that registered their machines?

06-02-2010, 09:05 PM
I have been running 89 in my Husky and echo. I think I am going to a higher octane because of ethanol. There is no other reason that both of them run like junk when they get hot. Both are fairly new