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Decoste76
05-31-2010, 12:14 PM
Just did a 30 yard mulch job.. and made 1,000 off of it lemme know what you think about that. I billed the guy for 1309 but he was a low baller and got me to go down to 1000 after about a week of arguments and bull****

AMG Management Solutions
05-31-2010, 02:28 PM
depends on what it cost you to deliver the mulch and pay your guys... Did you do any bed edging? Weed removal? Standard bed prep? If so I would have told him good luck because there would have been little to no profit in it for me...

terrapro
05-31-2010, 02:49 PM
If I understand what you are saying I would have been at $2100 including delivery and the material...no prep work. 30yds of mulch for a grand? No thanks.

shovelracer
05-31-2010, 02:58 PM
You dropped your price = you lose. Although asking if you did OK is sort of rediculous since only you should know that answer. Either way I think you left some good money on the table. Now if you paid $10/yd and humped it yourself in a less than a day you probably did alright. However if you paid $45/yd and it took 3 guys all day plus several trips to the yard and lost drivetime than you lost pretty bad. I'm gonna side with terra on this one.

mnglocker
05-31-2010, 03:21 PM
30yards for a grand? Dude you got screwed.

mnglocker
05-31-2010, 03:24 PM
I'd be at $1000+tax for just grunting the junk in, prep work = more $$$ Assuming you're installing cypress mulch you should have about $930.00 of profit on the mulch itself. It would have been cheaper to tell him to pay up with a mechanics lean.

RakenShovel
05-31-2010, 04:02 PM
lost a LOT of money. What are you pricing the mulch at per yard? Sounds like a battle of lowballers.

Decoste76
05-31-2010, 04:30 PM
the total job was 2600 he paid for hlaf

Decoste76
05-31-2010, 04:32 PM
well should of paid for half but wants to only pay 1000

Ron's TLL
05-31-2010, 04:34 PM
Just did a 30 yard mulch job.. and made 1,000 off of it lemme know what you think about that. I billed the guy for 1309 but he was a low baller and got me to go down to 1000 after about a week of arguments and bull****

If he actually MADE $1000, after material and labor, that's good. I would have been in the $2100 range also for material, delivery, and install. Now, if he only charged $1000, I have a whole lot of work for him!:)

Darryl G
05-31-2010, 05:01 PM
I can hardly buy 30 yards of decent mulch for $1000 let alone haul and install it. Didn't you go over price with your customer first? I just did a 9 yard mulch job for $925.

Decoste76
05-31-2010, 09:33 PM
mulch is 38.50 here

soloscaperman
05-31-2010, 10:14 PM
Mulch here is $34 after tax for a yard but if you tip the loader with a bottle of water he will top it off each time.

Hoy landscaping
06-04-2010, 11:51 PM
30 yards? im doing 14 for that price!

DJJS
06-05-2010, 12:10 AM
sounds like you left a ton of money on the table, I would've quoted the job at $ 2,400 not including prep work or edging. Also, I'll rarely lower my price for a client, I'll negotiate, but negotiation is give and take, lower the price but take something away

Raymond S.
06-05-2010, 12:36 AM
my cost for 30 yds of double shred premium hardwood mulch is $20/yd. That's about as cheap as it gets around here. I charge $65/yd layed with no prep work. Retail on the mulch is $35/yd. So, for 30 yds my price would have been $1950 - $600 my cost equals $1350 to pay the bills. If he were to buy the mulch himself he'd be looking at $1050 in materials just for the mulch. If you layed 30 yds for $1000 you pretty much layed it for free because he would have paid that much just to buy the mulch dumped in a big pile in his driveway.

ED'S LAWNCARE
06-05-2010, 03:47 PM
I don't understand what you meant by he paid for half? Did he buy the mulch and paid you $1000 to spread it? It just seems confusing to me. I would have charged $1900. Delivered and spread, prep work is extra. Dbl grd hardwood $22.00/ yd.

twcw5804
06-05-2010, 06:48 PM
Way it sounded to me was he did the job and then the guy wanted to negotiate. Wasn't he made aware of the price up front?

Matt Hermann
06-05-2010, 11:05 PM
i'm 15 and i run somewhat of a buisness and the average 30 yard mulch job I made 500-600$ on. just putting the bulch on and edging the beds. what do you think about that- good price?

stephen424
06-06-2010, 12:35 AM
I charge $35 per yard (materials)
I charge $30 per yard (labor)

That just a basic mulch spreading job. No bed edging, spraying, hand picking weeds...none of that.

Total price for 30 yards would have been $1950, plus $60 delivery.

I actually pay $29 for the mulch, so I make $6 per yard just for materials.
And my two guys can spread 4 yards/hour. So we're looking at 7.5 hours labor for my employees...@ $10 hour plus a tip for their hard work.

So out of that $1950, I would have made $180 just off the upcharge of the mulch.
I would have made $900 off of the labor charge. Paid my guys $100 each ($200 total).

And I would have pocketed $180 + $700 = $880 doing absolutely nothing.

Ben'sLawnCare
06-06-2010, 12:52 AM
Not tryin to be an ass but I don't know how you can make any money like that. - mean everybody has a diff overhead. Either way I did a 42 yard job about a month ago and the invoice totalled out at a little over $6200. We prepped the beds and trimmed the bushes of cours and had the mulch delivery was $360 and about 1500 for midnight black mulch. So proffit after employees was almost 4 grand after fuel and food included.
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jasonnau
06-06-2010, 02:28 AM
mulch is 38.50 here

You guys are getting screwed on mulch. It's 21.95/yd for the color enhanced stuff, 18 for hardwood.

jasonnau
06-06-2010, 02:30 AM
I'm usually between 90 and 100 per yard depending on the amount and conditions. I'm paying roughly 24 per yard for it with tax, so I'm making 66-76 per yard profit. That would include light weeding, and bed edging. $10 more per yard for pre-emergent. A 30 yarder with nice open beds and I'd maybe drop to $85 per yard. Still, I'd charge $2550. Definitely upselling the pre-emergent. Any less than that and I'd let it go.

GrassIsGreenerLawnCare
06-06-2010, 08:04 AM
38.50??????????for a yard of mulch??? WTF. im glad i dont live there. why the hell is the guy complaining if thats what YOU get your discounted mulch at?? If u pay that high of a price....what the hell does he think HE would have payed as a homeowner without contractor discount??? hes looking at over $13-1400 easy for mulch ALONE without delivery as a homeowner for materials. Thats not including ANY WORK. If he doesnt pay you.....report his ass. You MUST have gone over the price/quote with him before hand i hope right? Sux that u guys pay so much for mulch tho, i feel bad for ya. In VA we're at 17/yard for hardwood and $20/yard for colored w/ discount.....i usually upsell mulch alone at 35/yard plus labor added on for each yard spread. (no bed prep) plus delivery. please let us know how this turned out...im interested

GrassIsGreenerLawnCare
06-06-2010, 08:09 AM
and man....i just moved from cape cod.....u should be able to find mulch at a better price than that! i lived in the most expensive part of MA and wasnt paying that much for mulch anywhere!? and i wasnt even a licensed business before i moved here and it was around 25-28/yard about 2 years ago.....i hope it hasnt changed that much, but wouldnt really be surprised if it were true knowing MA lol good luck

Darryl G
06-06-2010, 06:39 PM
I charge $35 per yard (materials)
I charge $30 per yard (labor)

That just a basic mulch spreading job. No bed edging, spraying, hand picking weeds...none of that.

Total price for 30 yards would have been $1950, plus $60 delivery.

I actually pay $29 for the mulch, so I make $6 per yard just for materials.
And my two guys can spread 4 yards/hour. So we're looking at 7.5 hours labor for my employees...@ $10 hour plus a tip for their hard work.

So out of that $1950, I would have made $180 just off the upcharge of the mulch.
I would have made $900 off of the labor charge. Paid my guys $100 each ($200 total).

And I would have pocketed $180 + $700 = $880 doing absolutely nothing.

$60 for 30 yards???? I charge $10/yd for delivery with a minimum of $30.

Decoste76
06-06-2010, 06:45 PM
to clear things up. The whole job was 2600$ he paid half up front to cover materials and what not. Then when it came time to pick up the other half (1300$) he only wanted to give me 1000$ which is all labor no materials cost coming out of that. I made 1000 off the job

cutbetterthanyou
06-06-2010, 07:39 PM
Just curious what all did you do for the 1ooo, just mulch? bed edge? trim bushes or what? How long did it take you? How many guys?

Cheffy
06-06-2010, 08:13 PM
I like to let the customer know ball park what it is going to cost before I start. I charge 80 - 90 per yard ( we purchase it for 22.00 ) . So a 30 yard highlite of mulch( or when you freshen up old beds) would be 2400 - 2700 . Profit would be 2040. less labor expense say roughly 300-500. actual profit is then 1500-1700 less tax I have to pay on profit 28% + 15% ( for our theives in D.C. ) Now you are making a $1000.00

LB1234
06-06-2010, 10:02 PM
you grossed about 75 per yard, which is good (of course depending on what you paid for materials and how much time spent on job)....I don't think you "made" a grand on it though.

Glenn Lawn Care
06-06-2010, 11:22 PM
but he was a low baller

i think you were the low baller. even at $1309!!:nono::nono: